And just how many glad points do you all have? Im on 74 and trying to grind 100, and believe me that isnt goin to happen unless i rage quit groups with wammos.
Even better, how about implementing a code that penalises wammos, flare spammers, and mending bonders?
I would /sign for that.
Recommended Update: Punish Rage Quitters In Ra
bhavv
Puebert
One problem I see here is implimenting a penalty will just increase leeching. If you were gonna get penalized for leaving, I would just stay and do whatever I had to do when I come back, where, if I left, the team might win, and I would get replaced by someone who might play.
Polynikes of Sparta
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How about each player gets a little Random Arena preference window.
They check off what they want in a Random Arena group. If they won't play with a group with no monk, then the game will wait until they are randomly picked to join a group with a monk and then they'll enter battle. There could be a number of preferences to select. That way if someone quits, it's okay because they didn't quit for not getting the type of group they wanted. They left because of a possible number of legitimate reasons. |
~Polynikes
Sofonisba
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And just how many glad points do you all have?
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I know, I know, "honor" doesn't exist in a game. O wait, what was that word again? Sportsmanship? Aaah k, doesn't apply here. Nvm.
TheRaven
You know, leaving a team just because one of the players is W/Mo is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just because a player is set to W/Mo doesn't mean they are an idiot.
My Scarlet Raven is currently W/Mo, mainly because I like to have a hard rez in some areas. (No, RA is not one of those areas!!!!!), but I'm not changing my 2ndary just because I'm in RA. Even though I'm set to W/Mo, usually my entire skillbar is Warrior. If I want to run a build that includes a few skills from a different profession, I'll change, otherwise I'm not bothering to change it.
If someone is pre-judging me based only on my profession combo and not on my playing skills then they are the "stupid noob", not me.
My Scarlet Raven is currently W/Mo, mainly because I like to have a hard rez in some areas. (No, RA is not one of those areas!!!!!), but I'm not changing my 2ndary just because I'm in RA. Even though I'm set to W/Mo, usually my entire skillbar is Warrior. If I want to run a build that includes a few skills from a different profession, I'll change, otherwise I'm not bothering to change it.
If someone is pre-judging me based only on my profession combo and not on my playing skills then they are the "stupid noob", not me.
MithranArkanere
Hm... they could bring back the option to remove the secondary, like in Nightfall preview... they see W, and not W/Any and...
...nope... people should still play, if they are in random arenas, they'll face random players, if they want a balanced team, they should go to Team Arenas...
Don't you think?
...nope... people should still play, if they are in random arenas, they'll face random players, if they want a balanced team, they should go to Team Arenas...
Don't you think?
BlackSephir
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Irrelevant.
And if you happen to join a team that has *dundundunnnnn* a dreaded wammo, but they are on the brink of their 10th win in a streak? Doesn't bother you at all to ruin their day and their chance at points. I know, I know, "honor" doesn't exist in a game. O wait, what was that word again? Sportsmanship? Aaah k, doesn't apply here. Nvm. |
Funny... So how will you call a situation- 2 noobs leave before the gates open so its 2vs4... No hopes, right?
Well- *dundundunnnnn*
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/9821/gw153bp7.jpg
Just me and restoration Rit to whom I /bow- great rit Haruldis Maximilis ^^
Other team had a monk, ranger, necro and something else...
It's assa and rit vs regular (seems good) team
And, damn, regular team loses :/
(Oh, and btw, of those 2 who left Ithink it was Alkaline who left 1st- way to go...)
Conclusion?
It's not that "there are no chances of winning", "without Monk I can't get 10 wins", "I don't play with wammos", "Some guys left first" etc
No, it's totally not that
Ppl who think like that just...
Just suck...
No, really and totally
They're bad players... intelligence means also getting along with unexpected situation- like 2vs4 -_-
So, no more crap about whether there is or isn't chance of winning unless you try, ok?
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okok, no need to shout!!! ><
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No, I was speaking generally... because I still see leavers in RA, I call them leavers and they reply "I love u too"
/sigh...
Sofonisba
You were just quoting me for reference... you weren't speaking to me directly, right? Because I agree with everything you wrote. 
ctbear
/signed
To me RA is a place to relax, i dont have to use particular professions and builds, just hit enter battle and i can play
If i have like 20min before dinner i wont spend 15 in changing my build, finding a party in HA and play 5min before i log off, will you?
It just pisses me off when i (and many people) just want to have some fun and the ragequitters ragequit even before you enter the game. Whats worse is that when one leaves, there will be the 2nd and the 3rd. So what can you do? Rush like a rambo and die under 5 seconds? I dont see it as "relax"
To me RA is a place to relax, i dont have to use particular professions and builds, just hit enter battle and i can play
If i have like 20min before dinner i wont spend 15 in changing my build, finding a party in HA and play 5min before i log off, will you?
It just pisses me off when i (and many people) just want to have some fun and the ragequitters ragequit even before you enter the game. Whats worse is that when one leaves, there will be the 2nd and the 3rd. So what can you do? Rush like a rambo and die under 5 seconds? I dont see it as "relax"
King_of_Eles
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HMmm no it actually does happen 50 times a day. Here's an example of a time to leav RA.
You're dead, nobody has res, you have a bunch of non spikers, and the other team has a monk. You're opposition has two monks and your team has no spike power Both teams have two monks The enemy has a monk and a touch ranger, and your idiot teammates insist on trying to kill the lifestealing, self healing ranger who also gets healing from the monk for 5 minutes Irl reasons Computer crashes You have an Afker Somebody doesnt load and your team sucks your team is the one in 100 that enters the guild wars hall of fame of suckage (think 3 stance tanks or something) you see the tag [iQ] on all four members and your team has no monk you enter ta a party member refuses to play cause he's a dick you're a monk and you accidently put all your attributes in smite halfway into the battle, you and your team simply agree you will not get a single kill its 1 to 4 and your team has gotten no kills yet the list goes on. So I am proud to say I leave about one in 5 of my starting matches, and about one in 20 of my streaks |
The Herbalizer
/not signed
there is too many idiots in random arena and i would like option to leave when i know my groups sucks and wont get me wins/glad points.
there is too many idiots in random arena and i would like option to leave when i know my groups sucks and wont get me wins/glad points.
LoyalSoldier
I think it is BS that people play Random Arena because they don't have skill. I think they play it because it is a form of PvP on demand. I go in and push the "Enter Mission" button and in 10-20 seconds I am in!
Every other form of PvP takes a while to get into and for people who do not have the time, it is a great alternative. It is also great for just messing around in a setting where people are less likely to care. So what if the average player isn't that great? If you don't like it, don't play it.
Every other form of PvP takes a while to get into and for people who do not have the time, it is a great alternative. It is also great for just messing around in a setting where people are less likely to care. So what if the average player isn't that great? If you don't like it, don't play it.
savage vapor 33
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/not signed
there is too many idiots in random arena and i would like option to leave when i know my groups sucks and wont get me wins/glad points. |
/notsigned
max gladius
for those ppl who think no monk = no win.... watch my video.... its been up a while, just hadnt linked it here....
RA No Monk
you will see a few teams with monk that we tune up, and a few teams with rage quitters that actually gave us trouble with just 3....
note, we had 0 healing except for some self healing... 3/4 players were PVE (i belive from conversations with them... been a little while though)
Point is... dont just quit cause u think u know everyones build... note our RT wasnt healing, or spirit spammer (seen alot of quiters cause rt not running either of those builds)... note we had a WA/EL... (that is latest fad.. war/ele, has 0 healing so they quite with no monk)
**note all ppl on my party said i could put their name in video, and enemies names cannot be made out... this video isnt to talk trash or such in any way, it is just proof that it isnt impossible, or even that difficult to get 10 wins with total random builds**
RA No Monk
you will see a few teams with monk that we tune up, and a few teams with rage quitters that actually gave us trouble with just 3....
note, we had 0 healing except for some self healing... 3/4 players were PVE (i belive from conversations with them... been a little while though)
Point is... dont just quit cause u think u know everyones build... note our RT wasnt healing, or spirit spammer (seen alot of quiters cause rt not running either of those builds)... note we had a WA/EL... (that is latest fad.. war/ele, has 0 healing so they quite with no monk)
**note all ppl on my party said i could put their name in video, and enemies names cannot be made out... this video isnt to talk trash or such in any way, it is just proof that it isnt impossible, or even that difficult to get 10 wins with total random builds**
max gladius
we cant let this issue die, from the poll you can see alot of ppl do agree.... little bump to refresh it from the weekend
mafia cyborg
/signed
but first of all there should be a time limit on skirmishes.
i only leave when matches carry on for more than 20 minutes cos of too many monks in the game. a RA game should never last more than 20 minutes anyway.
but first of all there should be a time limit on skirmishes.
i only leave when matches carry on for more than 20 minutes cos of too many monks in the game. a RA game should never last more than 20 minutes anyway.
Lord Azhren
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RA shouldn't be taken seriously. The other day I went in RA just to record me swinging a Fellblade for a GW vid with a Vamp Gaze at 0 Blood and nothing in swordsmanship. In fact I wasn't even a warrior secondary.
It's a place to "practice" builds that should be later used in ORGANIZED forms of PvP, or a place to gain faction. You aren't in a tournament when you enter RA so relax. I know it is sometimes frustrating but please understand RA has a long history of quitters and noobs and it always will. =/ |
That being said, I'm not sure exactly what would be best to do about it, but I do agree that it would be nice if something could be done. Perhaps it could be required that you attempt to resign before you can leave?
/signed
cyberjanet
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I'd love to hear you say it's not a big deal when you're in a good group on match #10 and someone leaves.
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max gladius
^^^ ive had it... ive been 7 or so wins deep with a team and we loose 1 guy for unknown reasons... and with the race to rage quit, ppl join in then leave before u can even tell them ur on a run...
And the best... is when u tell the person the 3 of u r 7 wins deep... and they say, "ok, bye" because why stay for 3 wins to help the rest of the ppl get a glad point, when u wont get one at the same time........
And the best... is when u tell the person the 3 of u r 7 wins deep... and they say, "ok, bye" because why stay for 3 wins to help the rest of the ppl get a glad point, when u wont get one at the same time........
Shmanka
I just think a VoD should be implemented instead so I never have to deal with 1h matches again...
Bored Atheist
im not going through 7 pages of stuff, but you cant tell if someone rage quit or quit for a valid reason. gg.
Diddy bow
yes we can chain them to the wall and force them to play
.../notsigned
.../notsigned
max gladius
back to the topic, dont waiste the posts if ur flairing up off the topic
TheRaven
I played in RA last night and I got lucky. Made it onto a great team on my first try. We ended our run with 11 wins.
....And for the record, we didn't have a monk!
Great idea for both RA and TA. The runners are really getting out of hand. After we moved to TA last night, our first match was against a team of runners. They had 2 Assassins, a Ranger and a Dervish all loaded up with running and evasion skills. They didn't have a single attack skill on their bars as far as we could tell. We had some speed buffs on our side fortunately so it wasn't as bad as it could have been. We did manage to kill 1 or 2 early on, but everyone on their team also had rebirth so we had to kill them many times over before they finally gave up and quit running.
Just a simple mod that limits the match to 10 minutes. After that the team with the most kills auto-wins. If this results in a tie then the match goes to sudden death like the lava map does.
Ok, stupid question. What's a Vod?
....And for the record, we didn't have a monk!
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but first of all there should be a time limit on skirmishes.
i only leave when matches carry on for more than 20 minutes cos of too many monks in the game. a RA game should never last more than 20 minutes anyway. |
Just a simple mod that limits the match to 10 minutes. After that the team with the most kills auto-wins. If this results in a tie then the match goes to sudden death like the lava map does.
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I just think a VoD should be implemented instead so I never have to deal with 1h matches again...
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max gladius
victory or death
Esprit
This is no 'Pick And Choose' Arena, by quitting before the match starts because you think the players will be idiots and won't win you any precious faction or gladiator points is like going half TA and half RA... i.e. doing and quitting RA to get a TA group, meaning you want a TA group in RA so you can trounce the opposition with ease. Do it like the rest, play your RA group and don't quit.
As for punishment, I think a time punishment should be imposed, perhaps 5 or 10 minutes, or however long the average RA match lasts. Doing this would effectively stop rage quitting 'line jumpers' and forcing them to wait for their next match.
As for punishment, I think a time punishment should be imposed, perhaps 5 or 10 minutes, or however long the average RA match lasts. Doing this would effectively stop rage quitting 'line jumpers' and forcing them to wait for their next match.
linh
Forcing to wait, forcing to play, not allowed to quit. Lol.
Good luck to convince ANet to do that with their customers. I'm sure if they do it to the game, it will only cause frustration and annoyance to players. And then people will make another thread to require to change it back, and it will be not only 4 pages like this.
Let this idea and thread RIP, seriously.
Good luck to convince ANet to do that with their customers. I'm sure if they do it to the game, it will only cause frustration and annoyance to players. And then people will make another thread to require to change it back, and it will be not only 4 pages like this.
Let this idea and thread RIP, seriously.
BlackSephir
Well, heres an example of typical ragequitter
He said that he rage quit and I told him that rage quitters are noobs (arent they?)
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9492/tehprohgv6.jpg
And you're telling us that punishing that kind of erm... lets say people is not okay? Hell, they should be exterminated, not punished, but you want to let em go O-o
Pro playah who's in top20 guild (probably bought an invitation for gold- sucka ;D) yells at RA... that makes no sense
He said that he rage quit and I told him that rage quitters are noobs (arent they?)
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9492/tehprohgv6.jpg
And you're telling us that punishing that kind of erm... lets say people is not okay? Hell, they should be exterminated, not punished, but you want to let em go O-o
Pro playah who's in top20 guild (probably bought an invitation for gold- sucka ;D) yells at RA... that makes no sense
max gladius
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Forcing to wait, forcing to play, not allowed to quit. Lol.
Good luck to convince ANet to do that with their customers. I'm sure if they do it to the game, it will only cause frustration and annoyance to players. And then people will make another thread to require to change it back, and it will be not only 4 pages like this. Let this idea and thread RIP, seriously. |
Note at the time of ur posting... pg 8 of this topic, not page 4... that 60% of the ppl viewing this are for some type of change and having it fixed....
As for ur comments.... I doubt anyone would be asking to have it "changed back" we are asking for a simple punishment to adjust ppls idea on what is accepted in the game.....
OhCrapLions
it really sucks when some jerk just logs because the battles get too hard.
Make the punishment a small stacking loss per day. So if you did it once you get -100 faction, you do it again, -200, again -300, again -400... you get it?
Also, I'm sure the programmers know how to write something so this system doesnt punish players who got err7 or something.
Make the punishment a small stacking loss per day. So if you did it once you get -100 faction, you do it again, -200, again -300, again -400... you get it?
Also, I'm sure the programmers know how to write something so this system doesnt punish players who got err7 or something.
Gimme Money Plzkthx
You cannot force someone to play. If I feel like quitting because I see no potential to recieve a glad point and some retard with a terrible build, I'm going to whether you like it or not. I thought about saying punish newbs who enter with crappy builds (as sarcasm) but then decided most people couldn't take the joke, plus they have to have somewhere to learn anyway. Guess I'll end the thread with two suggestions: 1. cry more. 2. if the ragequitter knows what they are talking about/demonstrated skills, maybe ask them WHY they ragequit and/or take suggestions on YOUR build if it was yoru fault instead of just flaming?
gameshoes3003
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Well, heres an example of typical ragequitter
He said that he rage quit and I told him that rage quitters are noobs (arent they?) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9492/tehprohgv6.jpg And you're telling us that punishing that kind of erm... lets say people is not okay? Hell, they should be exterminated, not punished, but you want to let em go O-o Pro playah who's in top20 guild (probably bought an invitation for gold- sucka ;D) yells at RA... that makes no sense |
I do dislike that actions of these types of players, but this can easily backfire against others.
Bowstring Badass
Stupidest thing I have ever heard of.
You get a team of all idiots (happens about 40% of the time I think) you rage quit no one can say that haven't raged quit so stop complaining. Tired of rage quitters do a TA guild group problem solved.
/notsigned
You get a team of all idiots (happens about 40% of the time I think) you rage quit no one can say that haven't raged quit so stop complaining. Tired of rage quitters do a TA guild group problem solved.
/notsigned
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Reasons why people rage quit in RA:
1) Their team doesn't have a monk
2) Their team does have a monk, but they don't like him
3) Their teammates are "gay"
4) They died
5) Someone else on their team died
6) They aren't winning
7) They are winning, but not sufficiently fast enough
8) Teammates not following their calls (read EVERY1 ATTACK MONK! GOGOGOGO!)
9) Teammates not calling targets
10) Teammates calling targets
11) They don't like your build
12) They don't like their build
13) The other team won't duel
14) Their opponents kite
I could go on for quite a while actually.
1) Their team doesn't have a monk
2) Their team does have a monk, but they don't like him
3) Their teammates are "gay"
4) They died
5) Someone else on their team died
6) They aren't winning
7) They are winning, but not sufficiently fast enough
8) Teammates not following their calls (read EVERY1 ATTACK MONK! GOGOGOGO!)
9) Teammates not calling targets
10) Teammates calling targets
11) They don't like your build
12) They don't like their build
13) The other team won't duel
14) Their opponents kite
I could go on for quite a while actually.
BlackSephir
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Stupidest thing I have ever heard of.
You get a team of all idiots (happens about 40% of the time I think) you rage quit no one can say that haven't raged quit so stop complaining. Tired of rage quitters do a TA guild group problem solved. /notsigned |
And no, it goes the other way
If you're tired of 40% idiots- go to TA...
linh
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If you're tired of 40% idiots- go to TA...
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BlackSephir
Random arenas- you enter, you have 3 random ppl- where is the part when someone leaves?
Pretty obvious that you've no idea what are you talking about- mixing normal rules of random 4v4 and organized 4v4- gg
The point you're missing that there should be no leavers in RA- give me a GOOD reason for leaving
You understand that if you enter RA it's... ehm, RANDOM... it means you can get an idiot, w/mo mending + breeze, no monk etc- yeah, guess what- that's why it's called random
But as far as I know- that means you get MIXED with other players, no monk or any other character assured- and you fight with them
You don't leave- why? Because you spoil fun of other ppl- I think it's simple
Nah, I think I'll prove my point it a thread like "Recomended Update: Punish Rage Quitters In Ra" and hopefully AN will get rid of garbage... Oh, wait a minute- I'm already doing that!
So let's just wait for what AN says...
Your logic is flawed
Pretty obvious that you've no idea what are you talking about- mixing normal rules of random 4v4 and organized 4v4- gg
The point you're missing that there should be no leavers in RA- give me a GOOD reason for leaving
You understand that if you enter RA it's... ehm, RANDOM... it means you can get an idiot, w/mo mending + breeze, no monk etc- yeah, guess what- that's why it's called random
But as far as I know- that means you get MIXED with other players, no monk or any other character assured- and you fight with them
You don't leave- why? Because you spoil fun of other ppl- I think it's simple
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So let's just wait for what AN says...
Your logic is flawed
Surena
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Tired of rage quitters do a TA guild group problem solved. /notsigned
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nugzta
If Im forced to stay in the match, I'll just go afk or even get myself killed to finish the match faster.
/notsigned
/notsigned
MithranArkanere
What about making impossible to leave until one side wins?