I beleive there should be a 3 flag style system, everytime u leave mid battle in a 24 hour period u get a flag, after 3 flags u cant join in Ra for 24 hours and receive some kind of punishment *such as Anti-farming code across your account) until the flags reset.
Yes i agree there are valid reasons to leave mid battle in Ra but frankly the majority of people dont have valid reasons. And for people who have disconnected there is the reconnect feature now (which works until the end of the battle), or if they disconnect alot then no offense to them but they really shouldnt be in an Arena in that case.
Recommended Update: Punish Rage Quitters In Ra
Sophitia Leafblade
Mercyful Fate
It's meant to be random, if people don't want to land in groups that could be disadvantaged (ie: without monks, etc.) they shouldn't do random arenas. It's not fair to those who are aware that it's random (hence the name, duh!) when others get mad at (their luck) the team make up and map out and try to see if their next team is better.
It's like when you're 8 years old and playing a board game and roll the dice and don't like the square you landed on, you bitch to re-roll so you don't get sent to jail, not passing go, not collecting $200. If people would just tough it out, who knows, they may even win with the team they think is doomed from the get go.
And when you started Guild Wars, you weren't a newbie, you were already l33t and knew the game better than the Devs.
If ArenaNet doesn't want to punish people, they should at least have the dictionary definition of RANDOM fill the screen for 30 seconds so you can't say you didn't know, despite, the inability to form a party in the Random Arenas town should be a small floodlight in the darkness.
-MF
It's like when you're 8 years old and playing a board game and roll the dice and don't like the square you landed on, you bitch to re-roll so you don't get sent to jail, not passing go, not collecting $200. If people would just tough it out, who knows, they may even win with the team they think is doomed from the get go.
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People still play in RA... ... why? ... All I've ever seen there was an assortment of unskilled scrubs, the types you'd see whining about nerfing a mission because they can't beat it with their Echo Frenzy W/Me. You're telling me people still willingly join groups of these people to fight others with equally crap builds? Wow. I don't want to hear "it's fun", it takes a masochist to enjoy playing alongside morons. I don't blame people for leaving at all.
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If ArenaNet doesn't want to punish people, they should at least have the dictionary definition of RANDOM fill the screen for 30 seconds so you can't say you didn't know, despite, the inability to form a party in the Random Arenas town should be a small floodlight in the darkness.
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SotiCoto
Random Arena?
One of those weird PvP things I haven't found yet.
I suppose it might be fun. Being coupled with completely random people has got to be more novel than all that other weirdarse, repetitive crap that most of the PvPers seem to be into....
But yeah.... people vanishing from RA?
Not half as much concern to me as people randomly leaving missions.... though admittedly, I tend to get DCed from missions a lot myself, which doesn't help at all.
Can't we get some sort of penalty for people randomly vanishing under ANY circumstances (besides dc)? Why the focus on some weird little PvP thing?
One of those weird PvP things I haven't found yet.
I suppose it might be fun. Being coupled with completely random people has got to be more novel than all that other weirdarse, repetitive crap that most of the PvPers seem to be into....
But yeah.... people vanishing from RA?
Not half as much concern to me as people randomly leaving missions.... though admittedly, I tend to get DCed from missions a lot myself, which doesn't help at all.
Can't we get some sort of penalty for people randomly vanishing under ANY circumstances (besides dc)? Why the focus on some weird little PvP thing?
master_of_puppets
Why did this thread not get closed like all the other RA ragequitter threads? Cant believe people taking RA so seriously, maybe if they weren't running e/w hundred blades shock, or N/R power shot mm then they wouldnt encounter so many ragequitters. And of course there are tons of other valids reasons to ragequit what if ur team has 2 monks and a rit, you can win 10 but each match is gonna take like 20 minutes, and you'll most likely have a deadlock match. Why would you not quit if you have that, or if you're team has 3 wammos and the other team has a monk with frenzied defense and he tanks them for half an hour. Am i gonna watch these noobs fail? No, Im gonna leave and save some time.
BlackSephir
Here he goes...
PM admins or moderators why this topic is still opened... Don't like this thread? Oh, I'm sorry- there are bunch of other threads where you can post useless comments
And I'm taking RA as seriously as HA or GvG- got a problem with that?
Hey, look! Someones jumping to conlusions! He knows NOTHING about how ppl that posted in this topic play, but he KNOWS... all /bow
If you'd be so nice... what necro build am I playing now?
I'm going to tell you a secret- if your party wins and is waiting for another battle to begin and you leave- your party gets another person in next round!
Just don't tell anyone, only pro's know about it
Then save your time, go to TA if you want party without w/mo, and save us- we don't want to read useless post... You said that you don't take RA seriously- then leave this topic and this conversation to ppl who care- you always bump when not wanted?
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And I'm taking RA as seriously as HA or GvG- got a problem with that?
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If you'd be so nice... what necro build am I playing now?
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Just don't tell anyone, only pro's know about it
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Holy Raptor
I like to use RA to test out builds. My retribution monk didn't work out too well >.>
Let people do what they want and let karma handle them.
Let people do what they want and let karma handle them.
max gladius
last night, i was shocked... did 3 or 4 runs... just 1 rage quitter... monk quit on us... then we won (were ballanced team just without monk) got a different monk and went to 12 in a row
max gladius
bumping idea cause dont want it to die off...
Also...
Gaile Gray was in Kamaden over the weekend... the only comments on this were that she understands some ppl want a change, alot of people saying many things to her.... but that was about it on this topic....
Also...
Gaile Gray was in Kamaden over the weekend... the only comments on this were that she understands some ppl want a change, alot of people saying many things to her.... but that was about it on this topic....
tacitus
/not signed clog clog
Deagol
/signed
I agree that there is a zillions good reasons you might quit (or lose connection), but only one that would demand that you played the exact same part of the game again within 10 minutes: If you tried to optimize your wins per time by quiting repeatedly until you got into a winner team.
For all the other reasons to leave prematurely, just think of the 10 minutes as still much less time that it usually takes to put together a team in any other part of the game.
I agree that there is a zillions good reasons you might quit (or lose connection), but only one that would demand that you played the exact same part of the game again within 10 minutes: If you tried to optimize your wins per time by quiting repeatedly until you got into a winner team.
For all the other reasons to leave prematurely, just think of the 10 minutes as still much less time that it usually takes to put together a team in any other part of the game.
Zuranthium
There certainly should not be a penalty for leaving the game, HOWEVER, I do think it should be impossible to leave the first MATCH of RA until after 30 seconds has elapsed (people who leave right away if they don't like the make-up of the party are annoying). Additionally, the game should NEVER continue if a party member leaves. The timer should immediately re-set until another RA member is found to join your party.
~Z
~Z
Not A Fifty Five
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There certainly should not be a penalty for leaving the game, HOWEVER, I do think it should be impossible to leave the first MATCH of RA until after 30 seconds has elapsed (people who leave right away if they don't like the make-up of the party are annoying). Additionally, the game should NEVER continue if a party member leaves. The timer should immediately re-set until another RA member is found to join your party.
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jummeth
De-couple RA with Glad Points and you won't have as many leavers. But I will leave if I see some scrub on my team with a 8 run/tank skills not having the slightest interest of playing the game.
My time is so much more precious than that.
But then again, getting banned from RA is not that big a deal, testing builds will just take a bit longer in AB.
My time is so much more precious than that.
But then again, getting banned from RA is not that big a deal, testing builds will just take a bit longer in AB.
Eldin
/signed
I am not a bigtime PvPer, in fact I'm barely even smalltime, though I have a PvP character to play around on. Since in PvP you can change equipment and skills for free (aside from unlocking a few things, though as a huge PvEer I have lots of the things unlocked), I like to play around with builds and simply like filling up my Balthazar faction bar, as it makes the hero window look prettier.
Zaishen Challenge gets old when I want to team up with others, and I don't do HA and Team Arenas/Elite are primarily trappers (I have a PvE ranger who has done trapping, it gets old after a while). That leaves Random Arenas, which are extremely fun, except that 3 out of 5 groups will leave you.
I am not a bigtime PvPer, in fact I'm barely even smalltime, though I have a PvP character to play around on. Since in PvP you can change equipment and skills for free (aside from unlocking a few things, though as a huge PvEer I have lots of the things unlocked), I like to play around with builds and simply like filling up my Balthazar faction bar, as it makes the hero window look prettier.
Zaishen Challenge gets old when I want to team up with others, and I don't do HA and Team Arenas/Elite are primarily trappers (I have a PvE ranger who has done trapping, it gets old after a while). That leaves Random Arenas, which are extremely fun, except that 3 out of 5 groups will leave you.
Tikovoo
/sign
I think it would be better idea to allow a bufferzone for those who do leave due to emergency etc and not actually raging...
like give a three strikes/time period before knocking down someones title a point or something like that.
I think it would be better idea to allow a bufferzone for those who do leave due to emergency etc and not actually raging...
like give a three strikes/time period before knocking down someones title a point or something like that.
Gimme Money Plzkthx
LOL knocking someone's title down would be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Short of that, nothing can stop me from raging. Then again, I could just "DC" against that, so gg.
widowdaballa
Lol, stupidest thing i've ever "heard" was your name. Second, you're the main reason these people want your sorry carcass to get punished for your childish "raging". Your about as brave to continue playing with whatever team your handed to win as you are about showing who your IGN name is so that you won't get flamed for being a sore loser.
Kool Pajamas
I say if you leave before the first minute you have to wait 5-10 mintues before you can re-enter. Would cut down on the people that do it just to be annoying.
Kaida the Heartless
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/signed
I agree that there is a zillions good reasons you might quit (or lose connection), but only one that would demand that you played the exact same part of the game again within 10 minutes: If you tried to optimize your wins per time by quiting repeatedly until you got into a winner team. For all the other reasons to leave prematurely, just think of the 10 minutes as still much less time that it usually takes to put together a team in any other part of the game. |
Best summary of my viewpoint I've seen yet.
Navaros
Not signed.
How do you decide who's a rage quitter? It's an unpoliceable policy, unless it were set to unjustly screw over everyone across the board.
Anyhow no player should be forced to play with a team he doesn't like. I'd rather see punishment of bad skillbars/gear in RA rather than rage quitters. Bad players in RA ruin my fun way more than rage quitters do, so why should they get off scott free yet punish the rage quitters (whom the former drive to doing that)? Unfortunately that would also be an unpoliceable policy.
How do you decide who's a rage quitter? It's an unpoliceable policy, unless it were set to unjustly screw over everyone across the board.
Anyhow no player should be forced to play with a team he doesn't like. I'd rather see punishment of bad skillbars/gear in RA rather than rage quitters. Bad players in RA ruin my fun way more than rage quitters do, so why should they get off scott free yet punish the rage quitters (whom the former drive to doing that)? Unfortunately that would also be an unpoliceable policy.
Phantom Flux
/signed and /notsigned.
I'm in between.
Yes, if the player just happened leave just to be a jerk and No, if the reason was er7. If the player has to log out cause his mom grounded him, many logging out would not give a penalty, but just exiting to gh, yeah.
I'm in between.
Yes, if the player just happened leave just to be a jerk and No, if the reason was er7. If the player has to log out cause his mom grounded him, many logging out would not give a penalty, but just exiting to gh, yeah.
max gladius
bumping after a long weekend..... lets get some fresh votes....
59.26% say yes at this time....
32.92% say no at this time...
59.26% say yes at this time....
32.92% say no at this time...
max gladius
its been a while, this forum needs alittle..... REZ SIG FTW!!!
max gladius
guru wont bump my thread...
only double posted 20 mins apart cause guru wouldnt bump up this thread, it did the last time though...
uber laggage..... now it wont update my edit....
only double posted 20 mins apart cause guru wouldnt bump up this thread, it did the last time though...
uber laggage..... now it wont update my edit....
Every time i lag
only when it hapens alot..
Bazompora
I voted "Yes".
Random Arena is a game of chance; quitting, because one does not like the cards that have been dealt to his side, makes one a bad player (I see an analogy with an immature kid tossing over the board, when he foresees his loss) ... and bad players deserve to be penalised for the hinder they cause to honest players.
Random Arena is a game of chance; quitting, because one does not like the cards that have been dealt to his side, makes one a bad player (I see an analogy with an immature kid tossing over the board, when he foresees his loss) ... and bad players deserve to be penalised for the hinder they cause to honest players.
Teh [prefession]-zorz
I wish they would, but there are plenty of reasons to leave, like a 3vs4 monk battle, pointless and dumb, but if that was the case they could all just resign...
Bazompora
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I wish they would, but there are plenty of reasons to leave, like a 3vs4 monk battle, pointless and dumb, but if that was the case they could all just resign...
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As you just mentioned, resigning together is always an option, and in my opinion the only respectfull way to abort.
Gimme Money Plzkthx
Punish me all you want, if I get a bad team I am going to ragequit or fake an err7 via pulling out my ethernet cord.
Kaida the Heartless
Try it Money. Guild Wars is smarter than you think!
Bazompora
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Punish me all you want, if I get a bad team I am going to ragequit or fake an err7 via pulling out my ethernet cord.
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). I'd like to note that for those who truly incur the wrath of the infamous 007, sanction will be as infrequent as a "natural" error=007 happens after one's character has fully loaded onto a map!
Fallen Nephilim
They should make it so that you can't leave RA unless you all /resign
yesitsrob
No
To many valid reasons to leave an RA team. I'm not sticking around on
i) - a team with 3 players
ii) - a team with a monk with power shot (or people running waste-of-time builds in general)
iii) - a 2 monk team (and if i'm one of the monks)
iv) - a team with a "tank"
v) - a team with an afk
vi) - a match where one of the opponents has dedicated his build for running around for half an hour
To many valid reasons to leave an RA team. I'm not sticking around on
i) - a team with 3 players
ii) - a team with a monk with power shot (or people running waste-of-time builds in general)
iii) - a 2 monk team (and if i'm one of the monks)
iv) - a team with a "tank"
v) - a team with an afk
vi) - a match where one of the opponents has dedicated his build for running around for half an hour
Evilsod
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To many valid reasons to leave an RA team. I'm not sticking around on i) - a team with 3 players ii) - a team with a monk with power shot (or people running waste-of-time builds in general) iii) - a 2 monk team (and if i'm one of the monks) iv) - a team with a "tank" v) - a team with an afk vi) - a match where one of the opponents has dedicated his build for running around for half an hour |
ii) see i, or just sort something out to ban people from RA if they leave repetively
iii) be a good boy and resign or let the other team wipe you
iv) then you'll probably get wiped anyway
v) same again...
vi) see ii, or just resign
There are many valid reasons... letting your opponents just wipe you or just resigning can solve most. I'm sure if Anet did sort something out for this they'd put clauses in for mishaps to not cause punishments.
RA was fine till they gave it Glad points, now its just a breeding ground for retards who can't play in a proper team against real opponents.
lyra_song
Perhaps they should remove rewards if your whole team quits before the match begins?
lilnate22
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Say your error 7, lose power, computer crashses, freezes, automatic updates for Windows kicks you, wireless connection has a hiccup, the phone rings, the doorbell rings, something starts to burn in the oven, soup on the stove bowls over, video card dies, motherboard fries, monitor goes out, dog wants out, pizza guy is at the door, police are at the door, your kids need your help, wife needs your help, husband needs your help, baby is crying, smoke alarm goes off, wireless mouse runs out of batteries, wireless keyboard runs out of batteries, power surge to your computer hits, you fall alseep at the helm, forgot about your dentist oppointment, doctors visit, have to pick up kids from school, from sports, from extra curricular activities, house starts to flood, tornado is coming, hurricane is rising, or a stampeed of chickens leveled your home...yeah...don't think punishing people for leaving is fair. It's not always their fault. We don't know the circumstances.
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bungusmaximus
Leaving before the door opens = stupid, waiting for the opposing team to leave before the door opens = free balthazar (It was literally raining points last night). Bottom line, rage quitting is self-ownage ^^.
I think it's a hard one though, people cant play forever anyway. People can be sports though, if you plan on leaving, at least finish the match and leave before a new one starts so your teammates can continue on their own with a substitute.
If I see spirit spam and trappers I leave even if I am in TA, I refuse to play against lame crap and guys feeling superior because they are camping spirits.
When I'm in a group with stupid people I never leave, that's mostly a problem that solves itself in 30 seconds, why bother leaving?
When all my team mates leave I start insulting the opposing team before running in and letting them beat me to shreds, mostly good for some nice laughs.
I think it's a hard one though, people cant play forever anyway. People can be sports though, if you plan on leaving, at least finish the match and leave before a new one starts so your teammates can continue on their own with a substitute.
If I see spirit spam and trappers I leave even if I am in TA, I refuse to play against lame crap and guys feeling superior because they are camping spirits.
When I'm in a group with stupid people I never leave, that's mostly a problem that solves itself in 30 seconds, why bother leaving?
When all my team mates leave I start insulting the opposing team before running in and letting them beat me to shreds, mostly good for some nice laughs.
Nivryx
i really dont care. i don't ra anymore - but when i did, i monked my 100 glads. only 1 person ever left my group because i was running a sor build afted it had just been buffed to a shorter cooldown. if people want to leave, let them. if you don't like it, learn to monk.
Orange Milk
Personally I've quit one RA match prior to its start ever. And the due to one of my team mates racial slur spamming, so not gonna help that guy win.
Many times I've go out 1 vs 4, I don't care who or what is on my team, I give it a shot.
Yesterday it was myself (Rit) and a Ranger, vs the other 4, we had 2 rage quiters prior to the start, we lasted 10 minutes and killed 2 of them, only to have them rezed and me run out of energy to stop healing the ranger and myself, I had a great time with the battle.
So you get loaded into a bad team, so what, In a minute or less it will be over and you can try again, a majority of RA battles are very short no need to quit. If your time is just too important to waste on a poorly built team for a minute then WTF are you doing playin video games in the first place with that valuable time?
Bottom line, battle are short enough that there is no need to quit, if it begins to take too long the the /resign option needs to be used.
The easiest thing to do is make it impossible to leave until after 1 min. If you notice if a player fails to load and you wipe a team in 30secs you still have to stand there for 30 more to get the win. Just lock that minute in for everyone.
Many times I've go out 1 vs 4, I don't care who or what is on my team, I give it a shot.
Yesterday it was myself (Rit) and a Ranger, vs the other 4, we had 2 rage quiters prior to the start, we lasted 10 minutes and killed 2 of them, only to have them rezed and me run out of energy to stop healing the ranger and myself, I had a great time with the battle.
So you get loaded into a bad team, so what, In a minute or less it will be over and you can try again, a majority of RA battles are very short no need to quit. If your time is just too important to waste on a poorly built team for a minute then WTF are you doing playin video games in the first place with that valuable time?
Bottom line, battle are short enough that there is no need to quit, if it begins to take too long the the /resign option needs to be used.
The easiest thing to do is make it impossible to leave until after 1 min. If you notice if a player fails to load and you wipe a team in 30secs you still have to stand there for 30 more to get the win. Just lock that minute in for everyone.
yesitsrob
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i) then let the other team wipe you.
ii) see i, or just sort something out to ban people from RA if they leave repetively iii) be a good boy and resign or let the other team wipe you iv) then you'll probably get wiped anyway v) same again... vi) see ii, or just resign There are many valid reasons... letting your opponents just wipe you or just resigning can solve most. I'm sure if Anet did sort something out for this they'd put clauses in for mishaps to not cause punishments. RA was fine till they gave it Glad points, now its just a breeding ground for retards who can't play in a proper team against real opponents. |
You talk about resigning like it's an "individual" thing.
There's another one i forgot too actually, which is having some idiot on your own team who does nothing but run around for half an hour.. I'm not waiting for that either
Punishment for leaving is such a bad RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idea it's not even funny.