well if you are gonna use a Me/Mo i've done smite runs using my monk and a famine ranger hero. I use mind wrack. Its a 5 sec recharge and its good damage speeds up the killing alot.
Illusion -16
Domination - 12 or 13.
Rez Chant - i don't find the need for vengence cause you can rez a 55 with chant
SV
AV
Mind Wrack
Signet of Illusion {E}
mending
essence
vig spirit - i find this better then breeze. since u gonna be in flail and with signet of illusion you can easily get a +4 mending and vig spirit will heal for around 20hp per hit.
havn't tested but thats what i would try.
UW Farming [Duo] - New Approach
Carboplatin
Kryth
@ Grolubao: Dude... meh no comment 
@ Pickle: Hehe welcome to the GWG mate, good to see ye here and thanks for the appreciation.
@ R Langdon: Famine + SV/AV? Spreads
@ Pickle: Hehe welcome to the GWG mate, good to see ye here and thanks for the appreciation.
@ R Langdon: Famine + SV/AV? Spreads
BrotherGilburt
Just replace Vengence with Ressurection Chant. Rebirth them to move their body closer to you then resurect them with full health. Guess it works either way though.
BrotherGilburt
BrotherGilburt
Grolubao
Kryth I understand perfectly your mad about me, but I'll publish the build with a video to show how it's done after the skill balance. Don't want some skills to be nerfed due to extreme farming.
I can only tell you that besides the build it's the way that is played that it's the most important thing to work.
Cheers, hope u understand my concerns
I can only tell you that besides the build it's the way that is played that it's the most important thing to work.
Cheers, hope u understand my concerns
Kryth
Brother Gilburt I suggest you read all the thread , yes we too prefer Res Chant instead of Vengeance but I keep saying Vengeance due to the fact that some ppl only have Prophecies campaign.
Grolubao: It's not that mate, I'm solo farming UW too. But imho, your total approach is illogical, just because there's a solo farm dosen't mean all people should farm solo. Because Solo farming is 1- boring 2- lonely 3- slow.
Therefore people create alternatives for farming.
And I think its a good time to mention this; I've been trying Witte Was' solo W/Rt farming for UW(grats for the build btw it's really something). But there are so many drawbacks that I keep going back to duo farming. First of all this whole thing about skipping the aatxes in the first chamber can't be good if you ask me. They drop ectos? They do. So they should be killed. Secondly the build is very very very slow. For 3 Grasping Darkness I have to spend over 70 seconds. For 4 Grasping Darkness (when they are spread) I have to spend well over 90 seconds. A duo build (lets take this thread as an example) takes 10 seconds tops to kill one Grasping, smites take even less. Not to mention that duo builds also kill Aatxes and Dryders (Coldfires and Behemoths even).
From my perspective ; if one is farming for a certain item, he should be killing all the monsters that have a possibility of dropping the item. I'm not saying one should choose this or that build but you know, it's just the way I like it. So When I was talkin about creating alternatives just now Grolubao, this is what I meant.
Grolubao: It's not that mate, I'm solo farming UW too. But imho, your total approach is illogical, just because there's a solo farm dosen't mean all people should farm solo. Because Solo farming is 1- boring 2- lonely 3- slow.
Therefore people create alternatives for farming.
And I think its a good time to mention this; I've been trying Witte Was' solo W/Rt farming for UW(grats for the build btw it's really something). But there are so many drawbacks that I keep going back to duo farming. First of all this whole thing about skipping the aatxes in the first chamber can't be good if you ask me. They drop ectos? They do. So they should be killed. Secondly the build is very very very slow. For 3 Grasping Darkness I have to spend over 70 seconds. For 4 Grasping Darkness (when they are spread) I have to spend well over 90 seconds. A duo build (lets take this thread as an example) takes 10 seconds tops to kill one Grasping, smites take even less. Not to mention that duo builds also kill Aatxes and Dryders (Coldfires and Behemoths even).
From my perspective ; if one is farming for a certain item, he should be killing all the monsters that have a possibility of dropping the item. I'm not saying one should choose this or that build but you know, it's just the way I like it. So When I was talkin about creating alternatives just now Grolubao, this is what I meant.
Carboplatin
i was thinking about using that mesmer build with a warrior. i think that build will give you enought healing and at the same time help with the damage output.
and the whole duo vs single farm thing. right now i don't see any build worth using for solo, the ones i know about at least. the builds are either too conditional for damage or they skip enemies. i'll stick to the duo, usually my hero, for now.
and the whole duo vs single farm thing. right now i don't see any build worth using for solo, the ones i know about at least. the builds are either too conditional for damage or they skip enemies. i'll stick to the duo, usually my hero, for now.
Grolubao
Kryth, it's all about efficiency. Your correct, I don't kill aataxes and they drop ectos, totally right, BUT, if you look at money + ectos per hour I will be winning all the time, because I farm solo, and that's basically that's what this is all about, getting the maximum amount of cash + ectos in the same time period.
The build I will post with the video isn't slow nor boring, ok it's lonely but hey sometimes you just want to farm alone right?
Anyway don't want to mess up with ur thread with my ideas.
Cheers
The build I will post with the video isn't slow nor boring, ok it's lonely but hey sometimes you just want to farm alone right?
Anyway don't want to mess up with ur thread with my ideas.
Cheers
Kryth
No no, I didn't mean to sound like we ain't open to new ideas.
Ideas are always welcome, what disturbed me is that , solo > duo principal. They both have advantages and disadvantages and flaws and pluses. It just comes down to what people prefer. Some create, other choose. All free.
Cheers.
Oh and , HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!
/jump
Ideas are always welcome, what disturbed me is that , solo > duo principal. They both have advantages and disadvantages and flaws and pluses. It just comes down to what people prefer. Some create, other choose. All free.
Cheers.
Oh and , HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!
/jump
jase the warrior
Great guide, very detailed. I can't wait to try this out with my friend.
Koning
solo the smites with a w/rt is far from efficient and pretty slow (respect to witte) so no wonder why you think soloing sucks. (if you go with vwk, at least be rt/mes or mes/rt and a group of smites will be dead in under 30 secs)
I agree with grolubao, farming is most of the time all about efficiency. altough there must be always room to try out fun builds like these, but most of the time they are not very efficient.
skipping the aatxes and going straight for the smites is just more efficient if you search for ecto's. ofcourse kililng aatxes is always nice but its just slow
I agree with grolubao, farming is most of the time all about efficiency. altough there must be always room to try out fun builds like these, but most of the time they are not very efficient.
skipping the aatxes and going straight for the smites is just more efficient if you search for ecto's. ofcourse kililng aatxes is always nice
but its just slow
SaphireIce
what I say is :
solo farming is about efficiency, right? so efficiency is about being a nerd.
duo farming is about fun, teamplay, and for guildwork.
solo farming is about efficiency, right? so efficiency is about being a nerd.
duo farming is about fun, teamplay, and for guildwork.
darrengordon
Grats on the build, looks a damm great one and its nice to see that a warrior can finally enter the UW!.
With regard to colds they dont drop sorry, been UW from the start now with the old style trapper, 55/ss then 55/famine, now retrib monk (72 dam retribution for each attack plus 89 dam every 5 secs + sig dam, owns at the mo!).
Once again grats on coming up with a totally new build style its v rare now adays.
With regard to colds they dont drop sorry, been UW from the start now with the old style trapper, 55/ss then 55/famine, now retrib monk (72 dam retribution for each attack plus 89 dam every 5 secs + sig dam, owns at the mo!).
Once again grats on coming up with a totally new build style its v rare now adays.
Koning
[QUOTE=SaphireIce]
so efficiency is about being a nerd.
QUOTE]
OMFG you drunk again?
I kinda agree with the rest but you can't say this...
so efficiency is about being a nerd.
QUOTE]
OMFG you drunk again?
I kinda agree with the rest but you can't say this...
Blacktemplar
I think solo farming and duo can be fun and efficient depending on the style in which you play the game. Sometimes farming by yourself can reap more rewards because of the farming codes and etc. However, duo farming can also be very rewarding because you learn more teamwork based farms, and is less lonely.
Rainbird
Okay, I haven't tried the build yet, but as far as I can see, a full set of glads armor isn't needed, since you have all the energy needed. If you use a set of knights armor will the -3 phys. dmg activate after or before prot spirit? If it activates after prot spirit it could get very easy to tank.
Just a suggestion
Just a suggestion
Carboplatin
it doesn't matter what armor. i don't run knights or glads. no matter what you still only take 5 damage.
Kryth
What Langdon says is true, armor dosen't matter, you might as well enter with no armor It's just there for the runes.
darrengordon, I'm sad to hear that, well at least now we that we know it, we won't spend time for them. I would consider this official now; that the coldfires don't drop ectos. Thanks for the information mate.
Ahm , about the nerd subject. Well I was sitting next to Saph, when he typed the post and honestly I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Ano that its a bit of a harsh remark but lemme clarify it from my point of view. If the current solo builds (with VwK) didn't spread, I'd totally agree with solo builds > duo builds code. But it dosen't. So theres plenty of room for duo builds to come up. I think Blacktemplar made it all clear with what he said. It depends on the style in which one plays the game.
I think Saph meant that people who tend to play a co-op based multiplayer game alone, are more nerdy But then again aren't we nerds all
Big information coming soon by the way, about the Me/Mo instead of the Mo/Me subject It'll be worth the wait
It's just there for the runes. darrengordon, I'm sad to hear that, well at least now we that we know it, we won't spend time for them. I would consider this official now; that the coldfires don't drop ectos. Thanks for the information mate.
Ahm , about the nerd subject. Well I was sitting next to Saph, when he typed the post and honestly I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Ano that its a bit of a harsh remark but lemme clarify it from my point of view. If the current solo builds (with VwK) didn't spread, I'd totally agree with solo builds > duo builds code. But it dosen't. So theres plenty of room for duo builds to come up. I think Blacktemplar made it all clear with what he said. It depends on the style in which one plays the game.
I think Saph meant that people who tend to play a co-op based multiplayer game alone, are more nerdy
But then again aren't we nerds all Big information coming soon by the way, about the Me/Mo instead of the Mo/Me subject
It'll be worth the wait SaphireIce
[QUOTE=Koning]
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaphireIce
so efficiency is about being a nerd.
QUOTE]
OMFG you drunk again?
I kinda agree with the rest but you can't say this... oh hell yeah just a few shots of vodka.. what's so bad with it.. anyways, sorry for being that harsh, after all, you don't know how nerd we are, since it's us who create the build :P
btw, it's [/Quote ] with / sober yet?
QUOTE]
OMFG you drunk again?
I kinda agree with the rest but you can't say this... oh hell yeah
just a few shots of vodka.. what's so bad with it.. anyways, sorry for being that harsh, after all, you don't know how nerd we are, since it's us who create the build :Pbtw, it's [/Quote ] with /
Koning
lol, you don't have to be 'nerd' to create a build, just using your head is enough.
and it's true that VwK spreads, with 4 or more smites you'll get scatter. That's why I farm ecto's on my Ele now. I can aggro big groups, take 0 damage and they are all dead b4 they can even run away (so killing the group is a matter of seconds, most of the time under 10). runs can easily be done in 15 mins, maybe even faster if spawns are good.
but to stay on topic, bring on that information
(still not convinced to make a 55 warrior )
and it's true that VwK spreads, with 4 or more smites you'll get scatter. That's why I farm ecto's on my Ele now. I can aggro big groups, take 0 damage and they are all dead b4 they can even run away (so killing the group is a matter of seconds, most of the time under 10). runs can easily be done in 15 mins, maybe even faster if spawns are good.
but to stay on topic, bring on that information
(still not convinced to make a 55 warrior
Kryth
^ Koning, you have been a poster on this topic for so long now, and I think u are curious about it, and let me assure you, until you see it for yourself, u'll never be convinced.
Alpha Of Terror
ok first off i wanna thank you for the build...i've been usin' it for a few days and gotten tons of ectos. and I never wanted to just copy off the exact build and mindlessly run it. So here's my tweaked build..
Mes/Mo (support)
illusion - 9 +3
healing - 8
protection - 12
essence bond, mending, guardian (yes guardian), symphathetic visage, ancestor's visage, prot spirit, rebirth, vengeance
no elites for mesmer necessary imo
Derv/Mo (tank, damage dealer)
Scythe mastery - 12 + 4
earth prayer - 10 + 3
protection - the rest
Balthz spirit, prot spirit (back up), reapers sweep {E}, mystic sweet, pious assault, mystic regeneration, dust cloak (as a mean of elemental dmg), rebirth
Takin' the dervish as the second man makes a lotta difference, i dont mean to out-do u in anyway but its kinda faster w/ the splash melee ( i know i know, but if using the environment carefully mobs will stay clumped). This idea started out as a joke actually, but guardian + pious assault spamming is over looked. Although it REQUIRES fast communication, since pious assault could remove the wrong enchantment (this screwed me a few times too), the damage output makes up for the risk.
Another thing, the lowest u can decrease the dervish Hp to is 130, (considering all sup runes and a scythe, no -50 cesta). This is a little messy, but u could sacrifice urself for a nightmare, this way, u can lay back for a bit. OR mess around with ur equipment until u find the best combo. Besides, the 15+ regen u get for mystic regen can easily handle the high Hp loss.
Lastly - i wanna contribute some ideas. I havent try these yet myself but i'm thinkin' of a vamp weapon can make it a lil easier? or life sheath for the mesmer?
Hopes this helps, thx again for the ingenius build
Mes/Mo (support)
illusion - 9 +3
healing - 8
protection - 12
essence bond, mending, guardian (yes guardian), symphathetic visage, ancestor's visage, prot spirit, rebirth, vengeance
no elites for mesmer necessary imo
Derv/Mo (tank, damage dealer)
Scythe mastery - 12 + 4
earth prayer - 10 + 3
protection - the rest
Balthz spirit, prot spirit (back up), reapers sweep {E}, mystic sweet, pious assault, mystic regeneration, dust cloak (as a mean of elemental dmg), rebirth
Takin' the dervish as the second man makes a lotta difference, i dont mean to out-do u in anyway but its kinda faster w/ the splash melee ( i know i know, but if using the environment carefully mobs will stay clumped). This idea started out as a joke actually, but guardian + pious assault spamming is over looked. Although it REQUIRES fast communication, since pious assault could remove the wrong enchantment (this screwed me a few times too), the damage output makes up for the risk.
Another thing, the lowest u can decrease the dervish Hp to is 130, (considering all sup runes and a scythe, no -50 cesta). This is a little messy, but u could sacrifice urself for a nightmare, this way, u can lay back for a bit. OR mess around with ur equipment until u find the best combo. Besides, the 15+ regen u get for mystic regen can easily handle the high Hp loss.
Lastly - i wanna contribute some ideas. I havent try these yet myself but i'm thinkin' of a vamp weapon can make it a lil easier? or life sheath for the mesmer?
Hopes this helps, thx again for the ingenius build
Kryth
BIG update.
This time the whole guide has been revamped for an alternative support character : Mesmer/Mo
Using Empathy with high domination the Mesmer increases Aatxe killing estimate by %100. by %100 I mean instead of spending worth 4 Frenzies of time on one Aatxe one now spends 2 Frenzies which is about 15 seconds.
The FAQ and Tips (particularly the one about Farming Code) has been updated as well as a part where how a mesmer should be played in this is added.
Another part added for the comparison of Monk and Mesmer and which to prefer why and some screenies for mesmer. Just see it for yourselves and please report some feedback , I suspect I missed something but I can't figure out what it is .
Title picture also updated due to the alternative support content.
PS: There's a godforsaken cockroach in my room and I lost it, now I'm scared to go to sleep.
This time the whole guide has been revamped for an alternative support character : Mesmer/Mo
Using Empathy with high domination the Mesmer increases Aatxe killing estimate by %100. by %100 I mean instead of spending worth 4 Frenzies of time on one Aatxe one now spends 2 Frenzies which is about 15 seconds.
The FAQ and Tips (particularly the one about Farming Code) has been updated as well as a part where how a mesmer should be played in this is added.
Another part added for the comparison of Monk and Mesmer and which to prefer why and some screenies for mesmer. Just see it for yourselves and please report some feedback , I suspect I missed something but I can't figure out what it is .
Title picture also updated due to the alternative support content.
PS: There's a godforsaken cockroach in my room and I lost it, now I'm scared to go to sleep.
SaphireIce
Indeed Big Update!
We were twitching here to update the build. I was so damn unhappy about the boredom, sitting on my butt and snuggling my vodka..
And again since all people were nagging about Me/Mo stuff, signet of illusions etc.. and 2nd visage, which I don't have, we wanted to try with my new bord mesmer.
The first try, Judges Insight with few points on Smite.. a Kryth said in the guide, no undeads to deal yet. The idea to maximize the dmg output via AP and..well holy dmg? Guess what? it sucks. Longer JI? %20 enc mod is a must. and it's energy cost? you might get energyrupt by trying to keep it on 7/24.
Then, Empathy. Combined dmg output is upto 115 average. and guess what? no spread. and since SV and SS deal dmg relative to the attacks of the mob, a frenzied warrior deals more dmg combined with empathy. no spreads, fast kill, good dmg and finally boredom is over. Empathy also owned JI with its casting time, yeah yeah, fast casting on mesmer why to bother. Try it, and you'll see the difference. and empathy's longevity is better than JI.
one more thing to compare is if JI's on monk support. what about Empathy then?
Let me put that way, if you're going in as a monk, no slot to take JI, or you play with the skills etc.. bla bla. ok you're done it. you're in UW. but my point is JI's AP %20 bonus dmg is still under Empathy's consecutive dmg. 2nd to that, if JI's on monk, goodluck with the casting time.
And guys, here's a personal thought about what we've done, many of you say this build works or could get improved with other skills from NF/Factions. I agree but the main point, there're still people who doesn't have those expantions. (including me..lazyness and money.. I accept donations)
Krythe m8, we own.
"since GW turned into UW we found our weapons singing the song of IW"
PS: A new update is coming soon! ( yeah again. ;D )
Edit: I accept donations of Vodka too! and uhh...what was I gonna edit.. oh yeah, no way I'm going in again with monk >_<!
We were twitching here to update the build. I was so damn unhappy about the boredom, sitting on my butt and snuggling my vodka..
And again since all people were nagging about Me/Mo stuff, signet of illusions etc.. and 2nd visage, which I don't have, we wanted to try with my new bord mesmer.
The first try, Judges Insight with few points on Smite.. a Kryth said in the guide, no undeads to deal yet. The idea to maximize the dmg output via AP and..well holy dmg? Guess what? it sucks. Longer JI? %20 enc mod is a must. and it's energy cost? you might get energyrupt by trying to keep it on 7/24.
Then, Empathy. Combined dmg output is upto 115 average. and guess what? no spread. and since SV and SS deal dmg relative to the attacks of the mob, a frenzied warrior deals more dmg combined with empathy. no spreads, fast kill, good dmg and finally boredom is over. Empathy also owned JI with its casting time, yeah yeah, fast casting on mesmer why to bother. Try it, and you'll see the difference. and empathy's longevity is better than JI.
one more thing to compare is if JI's on monk support. what about Empathy then?
Let me put that way, if you're going in as a monk, no slot to take JI, or you play with the skills etc.. bla bla. ok you're done it. you're in UW. but my point is JI's AP %20 bonus dmg is still under Empathy's consecutive dmg. 2nd to that, if JI's on monk, goodluck with the casting time.
And guys, here's a personal thought about what we've done, many of you say this build works or could get improved with other skills from NF/Factions. I agree but the main point, there're still people who doesn't have those expantions. (including me..lazyness and money..
I accept donations)"since GW turned into UW we found our weapons singing the song of IW"
PS: A new update is coming soon! ( yeah again. ;D )
Edit: I accept donations of Vodka too! and uhh...what was I gonna edit.. oh yeah, no way I'm going in again with monk >_<!
Kryth
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha Of Terror
ok first off i wanna thank you for the build...i've been usin' it for a few days and gotten tons of ectos. and I never wanted to just copy off the exact build and mindlessly run it. So here's my tweaked build..
Mes/Mo (support)
illusion - 9 +3
healing - 8
protection - 12
essence bond, mending, guardian (yes guardian), symphathetic visage, ancestor's visage, prot spirit, rebirth, vengeance
no elites for mesmer necessary imo
Derv/Mo (tank, damage dealer)
Scythe mastery - 12 + 4
earth prayer - 10 + 3
protection - the rest
Balthz spirit, prot spirit (back up), reapers sweep {E}, mystic sweet, pious assault, mystic regeneration, dust cloak (as a mean of elemental dmg), rebirth
Takin' the dervish as the second man makes a lotta difference, i dont mean to out-do u in anyway but its kinda faster w/ the splash melee ( i know i know, but if using the environment carefully mobs will stay clumped). This idea started out as a joke actually, but guardian + pious assault spamming is over looked. Although it REQUIRES fast communication, since pious assault could remove the wrong enchantment (this screwed me a few times too), the damage output makes up for the risk.
Another thing, the lowest u can decrease the dervish Hp to is 130, (considering all sup runes and a scythe, no -50 cesta). This is a little messy, but u could sacrifice urself for a nightmare, this way, u can lay back for a bit. OR mess around with ur equipment until u find the best combo. Besides, the 15+ regen u get for mystic regen can easily handle the high Hp loss.
Lastly - i wanna contribute some ideas. I havent try these yet myself but i'm thinkin' of a vamp weapon can make it a lil easier? or life sheath for the mesmer?
Hopes this helps, thx again for the ingenius build Thanks a lot mate, your inspiration makes us create, thanks for the positive feedback, and for your tweaked build ; good one, u know what they say, whatever sails ur boat ^_^
About the Vampiric Weapon; loss of a pip of health regen will hurt a warrior more than a tad, I don't know how it goes with Dervish (mystic regen) since I doN't own NF.
Mes/Mo (support)
illusion - 9 +3
healing - 8
protection - 12
essence bond, mending, guardian (yes guardian), symphathetic visage, ancestor's visage, prot spirit, rebirth, vengeance
no elites for mesmer necessary imo
Derv/Mo (tank, damage dealer)
Scythe mastery - 12 + 4
earth prayer - 10 + 3
protection - the rest
Balthz spirit, prot spirit (back up), reapers sweep {E}, mystic sweet, pious assault, mystic regeneration, dust cloak (as a mean of elemental dmg), rebirth
Takin' the dervish as the second man makes a lotta difference, i dont mean to out-do u in anyway but its kinda faster w/ the splash melee ( i know i know, but if using the environment carefully mobs will stay clumped). This idea started out as a joke actually, but guardian + pious assault spamming is over looked. Although it REQUIRES fast communication, since pious assault could remove the wrong enchantment (this screwed me a few times too), the damage output makes up for the risk.
Another thing, the lowest u can decrease the dervish Hp to is 130, (considering all sup runes and a scythe, no -50 cesta). This is a little messy, but u could sacrifice urself for a nightmare, this way, u can lay back for a bit. OR mess around with ur equipment until u find the best combo. Besides, the 15+ regen u get for mystic regen can easily handle the high Hp loss.
Lastly - i wanna contribute some ideas. I havent try these yet myself but i'm thinkin' of a vamp weapon can make it a lil easier? or life sheath for the mesmer?
Hopes this helps, thx again for the ingenius build Thanks a lot mate, your inspiration makes us create, thanks for the positive feedback, and for your tweaked build ; good one, u know what they say, whatever sails ur boat ^_^
About the Vampiric Weapon; loss of a pip of health regen will hurt a warrior more than a tad, I don't know how it goes with Dervish (mystic regen) since I doN't own NF.
Asier_Hyle
But if you use a dervish the enemys will run away cause of the area damage?
i have this question and i need someone to answer it please ^^
i have this question and i need someone to answer it please ^^
Kryth
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asier_Hyle
But if you use a dervish the enemys will run away cause of the area damage?
i have this question and i need someone to answer it please ^^ I think many Dervishes told us that the scythe spreads up until now, but they also say that it can be menaged with some practice, maybe someone playing this with a Dervish should answer that.
Oh and I wanna share some interesting/funny pictures from our last run.
This... I don't know what to say, I was practically speechless when it happened. So much for the farming code. We dropped 4 ectos in this run in total, 1 from Aatxes 3 from Smiters. It was truly epic, took us to the days of old.
Having some elf fun after completeing Ice Wastes. You'd be suprised to see how an elf kills with an axe
What is there to say
i have this question and i need someone to answer it please ^^ I think many Dervishes told us that the scythe spreads up until now, but they also say that it can be menaged with some practice, maybe someone playing this with a Dervish should answer that.
Oh and I wanna share some interesting/funny pictures from our last run.
This... I don't know what to say, I was practically speechless when it happened. So much for the farming code. We dropped 4 ectos in this run in total, 1 from Aatxes 3 from Smiters. It was truly epic, took us to the days of old.
Having some elf fun after completeing Ice Wastes. You'd be suprised to see how an elf kills with an axe
What is there to say
Asier_Hyle
lol nice screens ^^
i will try with dervish and i will tell how it goes :P
i will try with dervish and i will tell how it goes :P
Alpha Of Terror
nice LOTR extract 
anyways, scythe spread isnt that much of a deal, it only hit 3 enemies at a time. Use it with the curves and u'll see aggro doesnt break so easily
anyways, scythe spread isnt that much of a deal, it only hit 3 enemies at a time. Use it with the curves and u'll see aggro doesnt break so easily
Kryth
Ooh boy, I'm gonna have to update the whole thing now. /doh
All the tactics and stuff...
/doh
ftl...
All the tactics and stuff...
/doh
ftl...
xyke
hehe, not bad but there are better ways, look forward because I might share it with guru soon
(which is also duo, but u can do aatxe, smites, ice king, chamber and chaos plains but it does require a bit more skill for the monk)
(which is also duo, but u can do aatxe, smites, ice king, chamber and chaos plains but it does require a bit more skill for the monk)
Elkodust
Hmm. Is this harder now due to the visage update?
MrSlayer
I would imagine slightly. However, with the Mesmer using Enchanting boosting items, and 16 Illusion Magic...
Duration: 10 Seconds + 20% Enchant Mod = 12 Seconds
Recast: 20 Seconds.
As is obvious, with more enemy attacking, more energy is drained. So in theory, if you were to aggro, eg, all the aatxe, you would probably shut down their Warrior-level energy in around 3 seconds?
For the smites, with Im guessing 40-50 energy, tanking 5 of them would mean they had no energy in around 5-6 seconds.
And neither would regenerate anything like enough energy to become a problem in the, ooh, 8 seconds, between casts
Duration: 10 Seconds + 20% Enchant Mod = 12 Seconds
Recast: 20 Seconds.
As is obvious, with more enemy attacking, more energy is drained. So in theory, if you were to aggro, eg, all the aatxe, you would probably shut down their Warrior-level energy in around 3 seconds?
For the smites, with Im guessing 40-50 energy, tanking 5 of them would mean they had no energy in around 5-6 seconds.
And neither would regenerate anything like enough energy to become a problem in the, ooh, 8 seconds, between casts
Elkodust
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Originally Posted by MrSlayer
I would imagine slightly. However, with the Mesmer using Enchanting boosting items, and 16 Illusion Magic...
Duration: 10 Seconds + 20% Enchant Mod = 12 Seconds
Recast: 20 Seconds.
As is obvious, with more enemy attacking, more energy is drained. So in theory, if you were to aggro, eg, all the aatxe, you would probably shut down their Warrior-level energy in around 3 seconds?
For the smites, with Im guessing 40-50 energy, tanking 5 of them would mean they had no energy in around 5-6 seconds.
And neither would regenerate anything like enough energy to become a problem in the, ooh, 8 seconds, between casts
Lol k. Well ive just started this and i dont feel like making another character just to farm this. ill stick with my monk with 2 visages.
Duration: 10 Seconds + 20% Enchant Mod = 12 Seconds
Recast: 20 Seconds.
As is obvious, with more enemy attacking, more energy is drained. So in theory, if you were to aggro, eg, all the aatxe, you would probably shut down their Warrior-level energy in around 3 seconds?
For the smites, with Im guessing 40-50 energy, tanking 5 of them would mean they had no energy in around 5-6 seconds.
And neither would regenerate anything like enough energy to become a problem in the, ooh, 8 seconds, between casts
Lol k. Well ive just started this and i dont feel like making another character just to farm this. ill stick with my monk with 2 visages.
Kryth
Hmm. Is this harder now due to the visage update?
No it's not harder due to the Visage re-balance.
Rend Enchantments may occasionally hurt but you can easily get used to the 1 seconds cast as well. It's no biggie. The build remains the same.
Rend Enchantments may occasionally hurt but you can easily get used to the 1 seconds cast as well. It's no biggie. The build remains the same.