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Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

13 Dec 2006 at 16:26 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgoat

I wonder what happens to a minion master's minions if the minion master dc's and reconnects? Do they go masterless for a while then "regain" their connection to their master, stay friendly but don't move, or just go hostile permanently?

also... *clears throat*... w00t, friends, w00t I say.

As far as I'm aware, any minions will remain under control as the character itself does not disconnect until the 10 minute reconnect period expires.

ironox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

NY

Katzengard

13 Dec 2006 at 16:32 - 42

Yay!!!! I hate leaving people partway through a mission. And I especially hate them not knowing why (I don't ragequit, even when the PUG is hopeless). If it works it will be a huge improvement and congratulations to the aNet team for figuring out how to do it.

Vandal2k6

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Manchester, UK

The Manchester Marauders

W/Rt

13 Dec 2006 at 16:34 - 43

Hmm, no ingame auction tho ...

LOL!! Only kiddin' Just tryin to be one of the miserable gits that's never happy. Thank you Anet. Reconnects and party forming doodar are gonna rox. Oh and Candy Canes etc. When it coming, WHEN IT COMING!?

Giggerdy giggerdy.

LiQuId StEeL

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

/u/liquidsteel30

Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]

W/Mo

13 Dec 2006 at 16:35 - 44

*sigh of relief*

YAY! x10^142

icedwhitemocha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ancestral/Grenz

[CneX]

W/

13 Dec 2006 at 16:35 - 45

This is amazingly good news... especially for people with less than perfect connections like myself

Also grats on 3 million sold, big things happening at Anet lately

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

13 Dec 2006 at 16:37 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Weekes

As far as I'm aware, any minions will remain under control as the character itself does not disconnect until the 10 minute reconnect period expires.

Wait soo....my character just stands there, and my party receives a notice that I've disconncted...

Thats kind of interesting.

And I'm so going to be dancing naked in-front of the disconnectee when they return....

Ranger Rog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

[TOG]

13 Dec 2006 at 16:38 - 47

Thanks Anet, this is a brilliant Christmas present

Merry Christmas to all of you.

dwc89

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

earth

13 Dec 2006 at 16:40 - 48

This is nice, Wintersday for general fun and goofy times and friends will be back for this

.

Reconnects, now this will make DoA much less frustrating - killer losing 1 sometimes. Oh yeah, party will be able to tell if person was err7'd or just dropped out - helps with the ignore list.

3 million sold, nice and gratz. Guess chapter 4 is pretty much guranteed now

I do love this game - a bit too much I believe.

This is just a nice announcement all round.

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

13 Dec 2006 at 16:43 - 49

im so excited right now about this news. Can't wait to see how party formation is going to work.

Reconnects Reconnects Reconnects!!!

One question though, if we disconnect right before mission is going to end and your party beats the mission before you can reconnect to join them again, will we still get updated as having beaten the mission with them or do we have to start over???

This happened to me at Abbadons Gate mission. We had Abbadon's hp down to the last tidbit and i disconnected. So will the reconnect feature help us maintain our win????

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

13 Dec 2006 at 16:43 - 50

PURE OWNAGE

I just wanted to say that.

Cass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

13 Dec 2006 at 16:49 - 51

I've got a question about the reconnect system.

If you lag in the new system, does that mean that the server will continue to consider you to be "in game" for up to 10 minutes? More specifically, will your character stand there helplessly for the whole of 10 minutes? Or will you be taken away after the presently operating disconnect time, only to be reinstated if you reconnect?

I'm asking because the first scenario will be rather harsh on those who lag and are trying to get survivor title...

Fender

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio

XoO

13 Dec 2006 at 16:50 - 52

From a post on TGH.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Weekes

A disconnected character is effectively just an AFK character. The character remains in-game for the full 10 minutes, and is vulnerable throughout that time. You can't avoid a death by faking a disconnect and reconnecting, and you can't try to ambush your opponent by faking a disconnect either.

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

13 Dec 2006 at 16:52 - 53

I'm cautiously optimistic. Before I break out the champagne I want to see exactly how these features are implemented, because a bad system could very well be worse than no new system at all.

Fiendz Bane

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Netherlands

Wee Free Men [凸〇一〇]

W/E

13 Dec 2006 at 16:56 - 54

This sounds good i might start playing gw again (well, sometimes

)

If this gets implemented the way it should be this game will rock even more then it did.

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

13 Dec 2006 at 16:56 - 55

Nice!

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

13 Dec 2006 at 16:57 - 56

Best. Update. Ever.

tortugan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

[DVDF]

13 Dec 2006 at 16:58 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fender

From a post on TGH.

will that also happen if you do F12+enter? otherwise survivor are kinda owned

Gusnana1412

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

M Cheese [cese]

R/Rt

13 Dec 2006 at 16:58 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anghardel

...

I'm actually a bit confused about what they're hinting at with party formation. I can't wait to see it, at least to alleviate my curiosity.

I do expect Hero/Henchman party formation can be change
origin:
H H H
H X H
H H

H = Hero/Henchmen
X = Player

possible party formation that i can think of:

Code:

X            X                  H H H H X H H H
H          H  H
H        H      H
H      H          H            X H H H H H H H
H    H
H                                        H
H                                    H H X H H
H                                        H
                                         H 

H X              X H H H H
H H              H H H H H
H H
H H

(my expectation from party formation in Dungeon Siege)

But, well, dunno what ANet real party formation will be

I do wish atleast like above or more better way (like custom formation)

Ras Kass

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Waterloo, Canada

FF

W/A

13 Dec 2006 at 16:58 - 59

*instant Orgasm!*

Fender

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio

XoO

13 Dec 2006 at 17:02 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusnana1412

...

You've got the completely wrong idea. This isn't about how heroes and henchies form in a group around you in combat, but rather allowing people to advertise what prof they are and what missions/quests/PvP they want to participate in. Forming parties, not party "formations."

Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

13 Dec 2006 at 17:03 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusnana1412

(my expectation from party formation in Dungeon Siege)

But, well, dunno what ANet real party formation will be

I do wish atleast like above or more better way (like custom formation)

*cough*. It's Party Search, aka Party Forming. An LFG system. Nothing to do with formations as you presented it, I'm afraid. Having said that, you have presented an interesting idea

aohige

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

Mo/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:03 - 62

As much as I enjoy DoA, our biggest frustration was error7 after hours.
OMG RECONNECTS I LOVE YOU A.NET and so on.

Best. Patch. Ever.

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

13 Dec 2006 at 17:04 - 63

WoW! very nice! I haven't had many Disconnects, but Party Formation FTW!

Son of Urza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm the guy right behind you staring through your head . . . .

W/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:04 - 64

Nonono, they mean like a system that stops you from having to spam "Group lf 2x monk and SS necro!" all the time. It'll still be awesome, though.

EDIT: Wow, beaten by three people, including Alex Weekes himself! *leaves*

Dark Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

RTD

E/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:05 - 65

Merry Christmas

Dark

Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

13 Dec 2006 at 17:06 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son of Urza

EDIT: Wow, beaten by three people, including Alex Weekes himself! *leaves*

Heh, my F5 button is getting a workout at the moment

.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

13 Dec 2006 at 17:08 - 67

First off: 3,000,000... congratulations! Guild Wars is rising fast indeed - and GuildWarsGuru follows the trend

Secondly: I'm very happy. Improvement of party forming and reconnects are just brilliant. ArenaNet is taking a giant step in the right direction. Thank you so much for listening to the community and working so hard to make this game even better!

@Gusnana1412: I think by 'party formation' they mean actually forming a party in an outpost, not the formation (square, box, circle, wedge, spread out, close together) of the party when exploring/fighting.

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:09 - 68

I'm just glad that this will finally help to eleviate the OMFG RAGE QUITTER! Not everyone rage quits and it will be nicer to know who IS and who isn't. I know that they've been working hard on this for a long time and now I see why. I think most of us would have been happy to just get back into the zone, but same spot as the party, thats freaking awesome!

I do worry about the bugs that come with ANY update so when its implimented I will wait a few hours before logging on just to see how the rest of the population is effected XD

Alex is wrong about one thing though, this can be potentially exploited via pulling your connection line out rather than closing the game or at least I would think so. Though I highly doubt too many will even bother going through that trouble seeing as how there is a 10min wait involved.

I <3 reconnects! THANK YOU ANET!

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

13 Dec 2006 at 17:09 - 69

Win win and win. Trade system and central area time

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

13 Dec 2006 at 17:13 - 70

how come my question isn't answered, Alex you posted twice and didn't answer the "Necessary To Know questions"

Fender

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio

XoO

13 Dec 2006 at 17:13 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eviance

Alex is wrong about one thing though, this can be potentially exploited via pulling your connection line out rather than closing the game or at least I would think so. Though I highly doubt too many will even bother going through that trouble seeing as how there is a 10min wait involved.

What can you exploit by going AFK for 10 minutes? Same thing w/ reconnects.

And also, there isn't a 10 minute wait, but rather a 10 minute window in which you can reconnect. If you can fire up the client and login in 10 seconds, then you will only be disconnected for 10 seconds. If you are having network problems and can't get connected for 10 minutes and 10 seconds, then the reconnect option will not be available.

edit: hehe, I'm faster than Alex.

icedwhitemocha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ancestral/Grenz

[CneX]

W/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:13 - 72

I don't think the new reconnect system can be "expoited"... All you accomplish by pulling your cord is "going afk"... when can that possibly be beneficial?

(Other than something fickle like you need a quick break and don't want your party to know, so you fake a DC... I hardly consider that an exploit)

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

13 Dec 2006 at 17:14 - 73

So since it didn't mention specifics and I am at work and not able to read every message here, I take it the Wintersday will happen in all 3 continents?

yayrichie

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

13 Dec 2006 at 17:15 - 74

*ahem*
So, Merry Christmas to us.

After going through a brief period of frequent posting in Sardelac Sanitarium, I quickly began to doubt that A-net actually listens to players; the update is relieving. I suppose A-net has to prioritize, and among requests for game improvement, a party-search system and reconnecting after disconnection do contribute most to playing the primary game portion of Guild Wars.
And like so many others, I can't help but imagine what exactly the new party search system will consist of.....it's like a present sitting under the Christmas tree, and I'm left shaking the box, knowing what it probably is but wanting to know more...

Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

13 Dec 2006 at 17:15 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eviance

Alex is wrong about one thing though, this can be potentially exploited via pulling your connection line out rather than closing the game or at least I would think so. Though I highly doubt too many will even bother going through that trouble seeing as how there is a 10min wait involved.

Once you see the system working, you'll change your opinion. Firstly, as your character is treated as if you were AFK you will be vulnerable during the disconnect period.

Oh, and it's not a 10 minute wait. It's a 10 minute window of opportunity. If you get logged in again within 30 seconds you can be back in control of your character in that time.

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:20 - 76

Well that's what I meant and not at the same time. For those not wanting to be flagged as rage quitters but don't want to play any longer they would pull the router or connection line and be forced to wait out the 10mins before coming back into the game. If they reconnected before the 10mins was up they would end up back where they were so their "quiet rage quit" would be pointless lol. (Unless of course upon reconnect you are given a choice to reconnect to that area.)

My opinion on the reconnects is with complete love trust me on that XD

Edit: See Fender that's what I am wondering about.

aohige

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

Mo/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:21 - 77

Perfect, Alex, perfect.
It seems to work EXACTLY as how I imagined a reconnect feature would work.

It's been quite a while (two years?) since I had this same idea for reconnects, but better late than never!
Great christmas present <3

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

13 Dec 2006 at 17:24 - 78

Yay! Excited about the reconnect!

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

13 Dec 2006 at 17:27 - 79

Well from the looks of my question being avoided I'm concluding that the system won't grant us the completion of a mission if we disconnect right before our party wins.

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

13 Dec 2006 at 17:30 - 80

@ icedwhitemocha
Yeah I think it's pretty much stupid too, but ya never know... It would be the lamest "exploit" around, but some people do things like that. (Yes I have read way to many threads about griefers and had to deal with a few myself.) Overall though I would rather have it then not! I mean, this is the feature that I know we in this household have been BEGGING for! I remember the massive err7's that happened all day long and made it impossible to play, so I am cheering this 100%!
Like I said I would have been content just to get back into the zone, Anet has gone above and beyond my expectations for certain!

J snukka that is a VERY good question! I would assume it does since your character will be concidered AFK.