Woot!!! Reconnects, Candy canes, party improvements and More!!

Perynne

Perynne

Site Contributor

Join Date: Oct 2006

Finland

Runners of the Rose [RR]

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This is wonderful news, makes me very very happy yes. Cheers for Anet!

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendar Muert
Im asking if, when you get disconnected, does my computer have to send a message to the GW servers. The rest ill figure out on my own.
Most disconnects happen because your internet shuts off (atleast to the point where it stops communications with GW servers) lol.

Anywy, this just plays on something that most games already do. When you unproperly logout (disconnected, close the program, etc) your character isn't automatically logged out - your character actually stays afk in the game for alittle bit before server notices the lost connection and boots your character.

This delay is usually a few seconds (in GW some survivors can note trying to close the program, and they log back in with 1 death ) - but alot of games prolong this delay intentionally so that logging out cannot be abused, like in games where you cannot logout if you are pvping - if you close the program it proposely keeps your character logged in for a minute or such so people can kill you as a penalty for tryingto cheat the system.

I suppose what GW will be doing is merely prolonging this delay to 10 minutes and then coding in a function to reenter the instance you started in.

awitelin

awitelin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

E/Mo

I could not be more pleased about any assistance to party formation. I would have been happy with a seperate party search chat channel, but this "panel" sounds like it coud be so much better than that!

I'll see everyone in the snowball fights! (my favorite form of PvP)

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

wOOt ty anet for reconnects!!!! finally an awsome update!

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviance
Well that's what I meant and not at the same time. For those not wanting to be flagged as rage quitters but don't want to play any longer they would pull the router or connection line and be forced to wait out the 10mins before coming back into the game. If they reconnected before the 10mins was up they would end up back where they were so their "quiet rage quit" would be pointless lol. (Unless of course upon reconnect you are given a choice to reconnect to that area.)

My opinion on the reconnects is with complete love trust me on that XD

Edit: See Fender that's what I am wondering about.
Still it's a lot of work for a rage quitter and frankly most don't care if they leave a group hanging or not.

Anyway this exciting ... glad to see more updates coming

Just need a new type of Trade System and the voice communication system which GW said was in the works.. and all should be well.

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

"Reconnect After Disconnect — One of the most player-requested features comes to Guild Wars! If a player gets dropped from the game due to a connection problem, and that player can reconnect within ten minutes, the player's character will be relocated to the spot of disconnection. If the character was performing an action, such as casting a spell or auto-attacking a target, that character will complete the action as if still connected. If a player is in a group when disconnected, the other members of the party will be notified about the player's connection problems."

Wonder if we will be placed back in the group? What if the one that lost connection was leader, and had heroes, if the group dies as a result then the mission is failed? Questions, questions..

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it looks like the persistence of so many of us has resulted in reconnects (and of course kudos to anet to getting this done)

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it looks like the persistence of so many of us has resulted in reconnects (and of course kudos to anet to getting this done)
We better put some effort into getting an auction house because we have been wanting that since before the game released and reconnects and LFG stuff is being added? We obviously arn't petitioning hard enough for a way to sell our goods without downloading a bot or wasting hours of our time.

Sable Phoenix

Sable Phoenix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

This is awesome news!

Alex, does the reconnect system only work for an actual interrupted connection? If you close the program or log out, you're instantly taken out of the game as per normal, correct? Otherwise Survivor title hunters are going to have major problems with this.

Survivor characters will probably have a problem with this regardless; losing an entire title to a disconnect that's out of your control would be more than suck. What consideration is being given to them?

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

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Enchanted Warrior, I'm not trying to be rude or anything but I think most of your concerns have been addressed via Alex repeatedly throughout this thread. It's quite worth the read ^_^

However I will sum up what he has stated. It will be as if you went afk on your party - your toon will remain there standing still for up to 10mins (unless it was casting in which it will finish its casting) and your party will be notified that you are having connection issues. If you are able to reconnect during the 10mins you are back with your group. During the time you are disconnected your toon can be killed! So if you disconnect in the midst of battle you could likely die, otherwise you will just have to hope and pray that your henchies or party are smart enough to keep you alive till you can reconnect.

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

Update
Alex Weekes just dropped into temple of Balth and confirmed reconnects are for pvp and Pve - woot and unless something really bad happens will be here before the end of the year, so dont go all whingy if they're not here on the 20th

Remember these words. This is projected not promised. Just saying this because many here will go off the deep end if it does not launch as promised.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
We better put some effort into getting an auction house because we have been wanting that since before the game released and reconnects and LFG stuff is being added? We obviously arn't petitioning hard enough for a way to sell our goods without downloading a bot or wasting hours of our time.
you are right -- thanks for bringing this up

next on the list: no more wts/wtb chat channel spamming! lf auction house!

Fender

Fender

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio

XoO

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
We better put some effort into getting an auction house because we have been wanting that since before the game released and reconnects and LFG stuff is being added?
Reconnects and LFG interface requests are just as old as auction house requests, all the way back from the beta days, nearly 2 years ago.

Don't get me wrong, I want an in game auction house as well, but saying that's more important or older is silly.

Reconnects, for one thing, effects the $100k PvP tournaments, and that's really huge.

Bocjo Bassannn

Bocjo Bassannn

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Texas

Pervs R Us {pErV}

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendar Muert
Wow. Theres gonna be some massive updates soon.

Total revamp of DoA.
Winterday Festival.
And this.


THANK YOU ANET!

total revamp of DoA????!!! erm Link info !!!!???? I can't seem to find anything about this anywhere.... Is this true is this a rumor or just wishfull thinking?


GO ANET Party formation sounds awesome.... and reconnects what a nice surprise.

Chief

Chief

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

It took awhile, but it was just a matter of time for these features (Party Search, Reconnect after Disconnect) to be available in GW. These are common features in other NCSoft titles (example, City of Heroes/Villains).

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bocjo Bassannn
total revamp of DoA????!!! erm Link info !!!!???? I can't seem to find anything about this anywhere.... Is this true is this a rumor or just wishfull thinking?


GO ANET Party formation sounds awesome.... and reconnects what a nice surprise.
Not a total revamp, but it's going to get better according to Gaile: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10089724

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

3 words for ya....

ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!

TY anet <3

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

A fresh supply of candy will be nice for DoA wannado's

beanerman_99

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

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My stash of candy canes is seriously depleted since this time last year. I had only put away 30 and I am down to 7 for all my characters. So YAY!!!

Reconnects FTW!!

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

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Congratulations everybody.

So it turned out to be a good christmass anyway

GG Anet, you know we love you (as long as you keep working, that is

GranDeWun

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
People, people - let's keep this to the subject of what we are getting for holiday gifts. Not what we are not getting. This thread occasionally sounds like, OK, I got the Jag and the beach house in the Bahamas, but where is the condo at Disneyworld.
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine,
public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health,
what have the Romans ever done for us?"

Bankai

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sccrjamie
The first update I've ever felt worth commenting. And my comment is ------>
BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT EVER!
My g/f is going to have a hard time topping this...
Actually, I'm not sure whether this is the best ever. I can't decide between this or observer mode. That was awesome as well.

thedudemanwo

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Rt/

yay, definitely going to not quit now

DeathByBowtie

DeathByBowtie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Michigan

BGP Army [BGP]

Very cool stuff. My first thought on the party system, though, is that they introduced this ~2 months after releasing Nightfall, which introduced heroes and has greatly reduced the number of people looking for PUGs, since most people will just hero/hench missions and quests. Hopefully the party search will inspire more people to use human parties. And the reconnect thing, well, I can't really think of a downside to that.

My monk and paragon can't wait to get their santa hats

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

w00t! Yay!! woohoo!!! wheeee!!!!

(and all similar interjections.)

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by zankoku
Wow. Nice upcoming updates.

Reconnects will definitely be a boon and won't cause as many missions to fail.

Party formation is a definitely plus. Will we see less spamming in chat to form groups? And when will Anet address that other bain of chat spam: trade?
And it can't be used as an excuse as easily anymore

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

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Finally! Yay!
Some great updates!

How about this one though. If i disconnect in a timed pvp match such as Broken tower or courtyard, I can hopefully get back before the timer ends, but what if i cant get back in time and my team *hopefully* wins even though i errored, will i be able reappear in the next match ok? Also same with HoH?
Seems like the answer is yes but can Alex confirm this for us?

jaymat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lack of Talent [Luck]

not sure if this has been answered already but what happens when your in ha and disconnect and u load into the next map. will u still b there or are you going to be replaced by a hench.

same goes for pve, what happens if your exploring with your group you disconnect and they go into another zone. do you spawn into the other zone as well or stay exactly where you disconnected?

frojack

frojack

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, UK

Rite Of Passage [RP]

E/Mo

Fantastic news.

Omega X

Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior

Wonder if we will be placed back in the group? What if the one that lost connection was leader, and had heroes, if the group dies as a result then the mission is failed? Questions, questions..
Didn't Alex explain the first question?

When disconnected, the system informs your teammates that you were disconnected. Your character will still be there in the group for 10 minutes. After 10 minutes your character's session is terminated like a normal disconnection if you have not logged back in within that time. It would be essentially going AFK until you logged back in, your character will still be vulnerable within that time.

As for the Heroes question, doesn't the Heroes stay in the group if the leader disconnects?

aohige

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

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Lykan, acutally, Alex did reply somewhat on that issue.
Your character is treated as AFK, and hence, any completion rewards and such are applied if it happens while the character is in AFK mode.
So yeah, most likely, you should be fine as long as you come back in that 10 minutes.

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
As for the Heroes question, doesn't the Heroes stay in the group if the leader disconnects?
I would assume that even with henchies you stay connected to the area for that 10min window since it responds as if you went afk. And ya gotta love people that don't read the threads -_- One would think that they would at least check the devs notes if they dont feel like reading the whole thread

Thierry2

Thierry2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

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yay reconnect !! i could rlly use that

go Anet !

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Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

VA

Bad Wolf Corporation [WOLF]

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/cheer
/dance

I'm really looking forward to the reconnect feature, I still have to unplug the router every time I would want to play for more than half an hour.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

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Quote:
Originally Posted by aohige
Lykan, acutally, Alex did reply somewhat on that issue.
Your character is treated as AFK, and hence, any completion rewards and such are applied if it happens while the character is in AFK mode.
So yeah, most likely, you should be fine as long as you come back in that 10 minutes.
Yes I did see an answer to that effect, I only ask because somewhere alex said when you reconnect you will reappear in exactly the same spot as where you disconnected which is ok in Pve as your party can just wait, but obviously you wont be able to reconnect in the same spot there if the timer and match has finished. As you say, I would imagine you just appear in the staging area of the next match "AFK". Was just wondering if this is correct.

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranDeWun
"All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine,
public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health,
what have the Romans ever done for us?"
Pmsl Might go watch that right now!

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
Yes I did see an answer to that effect, I only ask because somewhere alex said when you reconnect you will reappear in exactly the same spot as where you disconnected which is ok in Pve as your party can just wait, but obviously you wont be able to reconnect in the same spot there if the timer and match has finished. As you say, I would imagine you just appear in the staging area of the next match "AFK". Was just wondering if this is correct.
Your character will be AFK. I would assume that as long as your character is still in the group, it will be pulled along if the instance changes.

There will probably be different rules for PvP matches. Though Alex never touched on any specifics yet.

kade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Currently residing in ToA dis 1

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So I guess Alt+F4 for survivors is a thing of the past?

Thats kinda sucky for them but in every other instance i could think of, awesome update.

Empex

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by kade
So I guess Alt+F4 for survivors is a thing of the past?

Thats kinda sucky for them but in every other instance i could think of, awesome update.
Alt+F4 probably ensures a clean exit - the game reports that you are quitting and makes you leave the game. Disconnecting which usually results from losing synchronization with the game server or lag spikes does not.

Venus was her name

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Cornwall, UK

W/N

pretty excellent additons to game.

shame becuase these features should have been there since the initial release...