Mallyx how to kill him?

Shendaar

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Join Date: Mar 2006

P4n드4k트 F0rm4710n

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lavenbb
wailing weapon with QZ, on a warrior with IAS should shut him down then? at least wild smash and summon doesn't work I think this would at least help a lot.

lulu_at_sin

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Join Date: Oct 2006

sin

Mo/

we r currently trying to black him out

lulu_at_sin

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

sin

Mo/

we tried to ball this time, no blackout. didnt work either.

i m bored and gonna try tomorrow again and again

Aphro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

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you cant ball in wards, and if you run and bring him down to 80% margonites spawn and its gg again:-( you need to tank the margonites somehow, but you cant as mallyx is teleporting you out meh...

he changes his aggro all few sec to another party member:-(

he seems too powerful...

aohige

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

Mo/

the teleport skill is insane.
It's pretty much impossible to aggro control him and the margonites that spawns, but without aggro control, margs owns your party.

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder how A.net tested this and how they managed to beat it. o_O

wostl

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Join Date: Jun 2006

ich

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No enchanments, no stances, no conditions, no hexes and one hit kills...
What remains?
Frustration...

HolyHawk

HolyHawk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

lf guild~

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I'm not even close to him, but if it says he uses spells, try arcane lacerny with hight domination. If it isn't monster skill, simple thievery might works I guess.

buy and die

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

So the pretty much only way to stay alive is an attribute 16 shelter nonstop (soul twisting or something) and then pick on him while killing his marg spawns insanely fast.

Now if not even the handful few of those that got there cant do it then i am truly amazed by Anet's power of frikking not testing their own stuff.

Craero

Craero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

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While thinking on it...
a SoA monk with spell breaker and 2 people with SV/AV could be used for this fight. Monk stands in the back for first of fight... at margonite spawn have one person put SV on tank once he gets aggro. Mallyx strips it, replaced quickly to lower his energy in the four second recharge time After mallyx quits stripping it off(Sign of low energy, Don't want to hear any two skills disabled for 6 seconds comments, I understand the reasoning but still).. SoA Monk enchants up and goes in... change in aggro (Warrior dies... just kidding but will probably happen) Cycle through SV/AV on monk to keep mallyx at 0 energy allowing for usage of skills such as mind wrack to deal damage.


This part is a joke and a entirely random thought that I somehow got:

Warrior: Frenzy, Healing sig, Death's charge, Dark escape (In case of lost enchantments)
Monk 1: Prot spirit
Monk 2: Holy wrath, retribution

Mallyx one hit wonders himself.

wostl

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Join Date: Jun 2006

ich

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyHawk
I'm not even close to him, but if it says he uses spells, try arcane lacerny with hight domination. If it isn't monster skill, simple thievery might works I guess. Doesn't work - tried...

wostl

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

ich

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craero
While thinking on it...
a SoA monk with spell breaker and 2 people with SV/AV could be used for this fight. Monk stands in the back for first of fight... at margonite spawn have one person put SV on tank once he gets aggro. Mallyx strips it, replaced quickly to lower his energy in the four second recharge time After mallyx quits stripping it off(Sign of low energy, Don't want to hear any two skills disabled for 6 seconds comments, I understand the reasoning but still).. SoA Monk enchants up and goes in... change in aggro (Warrior dies... just kidding but will probably happen) Cycle through SV/AV on monk to keep mallyx at 0 energy allowing for usage of skills such as mind wrack to deal damage.


This part is a joke and a entirely random thought that I somehow got:

Warrior: Frenzy, Healing sig
Monk 1: Prot spirit
Monk 2: Holy wrath, retribution

Mallyx one hit wonders himself. U can't tank Mallyx!
Doesn't work because he beams u away.
U can't use enchantments - SoA is an Enchantment!
U can't use hexes - SV is a hex...

/edit: SV/AV should be sympathetic visage/ancestors visage? This is an enchant too^^

Craero

Craero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wostl
U can't tank Mallyx!
Doesn't work because he beams u away.
U can't use enchantments - SoA is an Enchantment!
U can't use hexes - SV is a hex...
Quote: U can't tank Mallyx!
Doesn't work because he beams u away. Shadow Smash
You have two tanks... one of which doesn't rely fullly enchantments... unless this skill has an instant recharge with no adrenaline or energy cost someone should be able to tank him.

Quote:
U can't use enchantments - SoA is an Enchantment! Banish Enchantment

Skill has an energy cost. Anyone can be e-denied unless he has a +50 energy regen skill.

Quote: Frustration is a hex, so its a no go

Quote:
U can't use hexes - SV is a hex... Sympathetic Visage
It's an enchantment. How did you get spoil victor out of SV/AV and SV the tank?

They gave you a hard fight you have to work at. Not a flying monkey that farts fire and has laser eyes.

Apok Omen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Commence Aggro [BaMf]

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Or you could just bring a Domination Mesmer with Diversion. If I remember correctly, whenever I used CoP with Diversion on me, my CoP would be disabled. So, if he uses that skill that heals him and removes everything with Diversion on him, then he should be able to have no healing whatsoever for a minute.

Then, all you need is Shadowsong, defence in a non-enchantment source, and plenty of damage to take out his mobs.

jackie

jackie

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Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

Any kind of constant shutdown is definately good here.

wostl

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Join Date: Jun 2006

ich

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Apok Omen
Or you could just bring a Domination Mesmer with Diversion. If I remember correctly, whenever I used CoP with Diversion on me, my CoP would be disabled. So, if he uses that skill that heals him and removes everything with Diversion on him, then he should be able to have no healing whatsoever for a minute.

Then, all you need is Shadowsong, defence in a non-enchantment source, and plenty of damage to take out his mobs. We had a domination mesmer with Diversion -.-
Diversion doesn't work for a minute on him - i think only 30secs...

We tried it 6 times or so today and we didn't get him below 80%!
Its not Mallyx himself, but u also have to defeat loads of mobs before. Its 50 minutes enemies spawning. So u have to win against these foes before - thats rather hard with no mass dmg and lots of defense.

@Craero: forget about tanking him - he changes targets much too often...

Zinger314

Zinger314

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Join Date: May 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Apok Omen
Or you could just bring a Domination Mesmer with Diversion. If I remember correctly, whenever I used CoP with Diversion on me, my CoP would be disabled. So, if he uses that skill that heals him and removes everything with Diversion on him, then he should be able to have no healing whatsoever for a minute. If Mallyx is like every other lv. 30 boss, Diversion will have no effect.

lulu_at_sin

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Join Date: Oct 2006

sin

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as we figured, well we got him down to 80% with diversion

ubermancer

ubermancer

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Interupting a 3/4 second cast isnt unfeasible. I can get a Mesmer do that regularly, but Im unsure that even Psychic Distraction would work against him.

Can we please get a complete list of his skills with all specs (cost, cast, recharge).

wostl

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Join Date: Jun 2006

ich

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
Interupting a 3/4 second cast isnt unfeasible. I can get a Mesmer do that regularly, but Im unsure that even Psychic Distraction would work against him.

Can we please get a complete list of his skills with all specs (cost, cast, recharge). Bosses cast twice as fast as normal mobs - so it isn't 3/4 sec CT, in fact it is 3/8...
Have fun interrupting that

Former Ruling

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wostl
No enchanments, no stances, no conditions, no hexes and one hit kills...
What remains?
Frustration...
Skill has an energy cost. Anyone can be e-denied unless he has a +50 energy regen skill. You'd be surprised how much mobs can cheat with energy, I've seen boss spawns that I've tested to have atleast 10 energy regen naturally.

thazel

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Join Date: Oct 2005

The Last Hero (TLH)

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And SF priests can use ressurect over and over again without running out of energy....

Freneticweasel

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Brick.

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Hey guys, I think I win a litle bit

CHOKING GAS! FTW!
For 1...10 seconds, your arrows deal 1...7 more damage and spread Choking Gas to all adjacent foes on impact. Choking Gas interrupts foes attempting to cast spells.

Choking Gas=No more spells that Mallyx uses, and I saw that at the 'force teleport' thing he does is a spell, so this might work provided that you have Practiced Stance/Choking Gas and Incindiary Arrow/Arcane Mimicry rangers and focus fire when he's "choking", I suppose that could solve one problem. GG.

So if I just happen to be right, kudos to myself ^_^

Shattered Self

Shattered Self

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Join Date: Sep 2005

PvE

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Maybe a ball with wards, use Diversion to slow his skills and some method of spamming Shadowsong?

aohige

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

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if you use shadowsong, he'll eat that blind for 300 heal constantly....
you'll do nothing but help him heal himself...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freneticweasel
Hey guys, I think I win a litle bit

CHOKING GAS! FTW!
Dude, he cast the spell in 0.375second cast time.
Those arrows have very little chance of interrupting that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Craero

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

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Quote:
Originally Posted by aohige
So far, the best suggestions I'm hearing are the ones using Weapon spells for Rt.
Rit appears to be a key figure in facing Mallyx. Hence the fact that Razah is found in DoA and is hard to obtain.

TheYangg

TheYangg

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None

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Can Anyone tell us if any Beta-Tester could manage to kill Mallyx without using developer skills?

Aphro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Maybe a ball with wards, use Diversion to slow his skills Already tried doesnt work, he teleports one after another out of the wards and kills when all are spreaded; even knocks you down in stability ward:-(

Bankai

Bankai

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

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Just a few questions.

A) Has anyone killed/tried killing the spirits yet?
B) Can he be KDed?

Mouse at Large

Mouse at Large

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Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

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Maelstrom?

wostl

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ich

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bankai
Just a few questions.

A) Has anyone killed/tried killing the spirits yet?
B) Can he be KDed? A) yes, works
B) not sure, but from my experience i would say no

Wacky

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Trans Tasman Alliance [TTA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wostl
Bosses cast twice as fast as normal mobs - so it isn't 3/4 sec CT, in fact it is 3/8...
Have fun interrupting that Not up to this guy yet, by a long shot, but what if you brought Norgu?

Sinterklaas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

KoB

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has anyone tried EoE yet. Cause Mallyx ==Demon; Margonites == Demons
Depending on what the other spawns are it might be just spawnkilling after 80% or so. I am far from mallyx..so this is just an idea.

Atara Ars Namadra

Atara Ars Namadra

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Apocalyptic Riders

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EoE works only if mobs are under 90%. Get mallyx to 90% THEN go kill margonites nice idea if only Mallyx's health didnt jump to max in about 2 seconds

powerk21

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

Have you guys tried using Mistrust? ( http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mistrust ) And if you think a Mesmer is not an option for the previous battles, then E/Me can use it non-stop (presuming at least 2 of them have it so they can cycle it, and if you use 3 of them then you don't need to invest so many points in domination, just a few and you got it covered)

Even though it would need a cover hex so Mallyx can't remove it

Lucifer PVP

Lucifer PVP

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Refuge From Exile [RFE] Refuge-From-Exile.com

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warmonger and shelter?

lulu_at_sin

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sin

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@ powerk21 the skill he use remove all hexes and heals 4 each hex 300 hp.

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

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Amherst College, MA

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8 man echo wastrel's worry spam?--since hexes last 1/3 as long on him you should be able to kill him really quickly. Granted he may use his hex removing/healing skill, the damage should outdo the removal, and wastrel's recharge counteract his skill's recharge. That's how I kill 2/3 of the bosses in GW, including Abaddon. It should work.

Disclaimer: This is theory. I haven't beaten any of the 4 parts of the quest nor have i done much in DoA due to GW inactivity, please do not flame, thanks.

TheYangg

TheYangg

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Join Date: Aug 2006

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
8 man echo wastrel's worry spam?--since hexes last 1/3 as long on him you should be able to kill him really quickly. Granted he may use his hex removing/healing skill, the damage should outdo the removal, and wastrel's recharge counteract his skill's recharge. That's how I kill 2/3 of the bosses in GW, including Abaddon. It should work.

Disclaimer: This is theory. I haven't beaten any of the 4 parts of the quest nor have i done much in DoA due to GW inactivity, please do not flame, thanks. Before you can try to kill Mallyx you got to kill "some" Mobs, so Your Idea is unfortunately impossible...

Scutilla

Scutilla

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
Hence the fact that Razah is found in DoA and is hard to obtain.
I'm not sure whether to laugh at you for attempting the mission or applaud you if you actually get all the way to Mallyx with heroes. Heroes most definitely have NOTHING to do with this

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheYangg
Can Anyone tell us if any Beta-Tester could manage to kill Mallyx without using developer skills? Gaile mentioned in another one of the "zomg DoA is too hard" threads that the testers had played through and beaten DoA fairly (including the mission itself, presumably). No idea on how many times or with how many different builds they did it, but it HAS been done.

Off-topic: Two April Mornings, just noticed your profile- my hometown is like 20 minutes from Amherst.

[riVen]

[riVen]

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by thazel
And SF priests can use ressurect over and over again without running out of energy.... Actually, the Resurrect that the Priests of Sorrows use is a monster-only version of this spell, having an energy cost of only 5. /offtopic