Typical acts of Stupidity that we all commit...that others should avoid?

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

So, Over the last few days, I've lost all sense of GW discipline. It must be the eggnog.
And I got to wondering, maybe, how many people, as they evolve in the game, make kinda typical goofs...not falling for scams--that's a different discussion--but just "growing pains" mistakes, or, well, like the title suggests, typical acts of stupidity.

I hope that we can all post our oopsies and maybe caution others...that they don't need to flush all the GW cash down the drain in LA trading, or that they shouldn't spend all those faction points from quests to get amber... If we post the little mistakes, maybe someone can benefit, by not making them.

So, in the spirit of honesty and education, and shame-faced discussion, here are 2 of mine:

1. I learned what a bummer the amber and jade faction rewards are. I earned quite a bit of faction doing quests in the Ferndale area, and INSTEAD of using that to unlock the next primary quest, I spent it on amber...which I turned into gold and plat.
Not a bad idea, right? Except.... I then had to PvP to earn my faction to progress the storyline. And I HATE PvP. No one to blame but myself. I spent hours in frustrating battles trying to get faction so the Zu Heltzers would let me go on to the next mission. Grr.
I learned: Save faction. Open the story first. Then take the loot later.

2. Ah, the Unidentified Gold item market. I bought 2 Unid. golds last night: It seemed like a smart deal. 50k would buy a req 9 Storm bow, and a Req 9 gothic axe. So I bought and ID'd....and found them to be...undesirable, as far as I could tell. The inherent mods were pretty bad, and so the best I can hope for is to sell each for a bit less than I paid. Sooooo lame. Served me right...I was looking for a cheap Storm Bow...
So: I learned not to drop loot on the Unid. market...at least not on high-end purchases. The chances of getting something nice are pretty slim.
Again, my own fault. Not a scam--I knew what I was buying--sort of.
So, I'm down 50k, with relatively good-looking, but undesireable, weapons.
*doh.*

Bonus, 3. This is extra. When I first played Prophecies--like, 2 days into the game, level 4, in pre-searing, I got a black dye.
Held it for a bit, asked myself, "what the hell good is this for?" and sold it to the merchant for 1 gold.
Oy. Imagine how I felt as I learned what black dye was really worth. I kicked myself.


So...who else wants to educate the masses? What common mistakes have you made that are worth avoiding?

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

i feel the pain of stupidity many times. such times inclute when i try to set up a gvg. i want one hammer an one axe warrior, what i get is 2 hh whammos who only use sword. i try to explain to them its easy to change your secondary and their skills, but they seem to be rigor- mortised on their build. why do people act like this? Are people just so closed minded that they cant help but be noobs? im not sure. you would think that after a while they would change. I used to be a sword only whammo, but i made my arrior into a multitasker, with many different secondarys and multi weapond builds. i think people just need some education. so heres what i want to educate people on:
Be flexible. especially in pvp. you will be asked by your team mates to change you build, and if you cant you will get the boot. the people who wan to gvg with me volunteered, and i expect them to use a usefull build. so theres my advice.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

There are so many objectives and so many goals its impossible to know what to do in every situation, but as long as you are having fun then you can't kick yourself too hard. =)

I don't really have any acts of stupidity to relate, per se, but some advice - be patient. One of my biggest frustrations in the game has been selling things to get fast money, only to find out that if I had been a little more patient I could have doubled my money or more. Salvage materials, gold items, knowing when to buy armor... just be patient and you'll rarely go wrong. =)

chaoticmadness

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

killerzzzz

W/Mo

if you kicked yourself for selling a black dye for 1 g you have some financial issues(10k isnt a lot), no offense

chaoticmadness

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

killerzzzz

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need
i feel the pain of stupidity many times. such times inclute when i try to set up a gvg. i want one hammer an one axe warrior, what i get is 2 hh whammos who only use sword. i try to explain to them its easy to change your secondary and their skills, but they seem to be rigor- mortised on their build. why do people act like this? Are people just so closed minded that they cant help but be noobs? im not sure. you would think that after a while they would change. I used to be a sword only whammo, but i made my arrior into a multitasker, with many different secondarys and multi weapond builds. i think people just need some education. so heres what i want to educate people on:
Be flexible. especially in pvp. you will be asked by your team mates to change you build, and if you cant you will get the boot. the people who wan to gvg with me volunteered, and i expect them to use a usefull build. so theres my advice.

Now what is wrong with sword users? most people i've met in TA that used swords have been better than any axe users

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Do NOT buy unidentified items because the majority of the time they are pre tested for damage mods. This means that they can be used before they have been identified and known if they have a 15^50 dmg mod and any other hp mods or vamp etc. I know this has been said a million times before. I'm just saying it again to help some people save some money from scammers. Again, I'm not saying everyone does this but im sure we would be surprised if we knew how many that do.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by chaoticmadness
if you kicked yourself for selling a black dye for 1 g you have some financial issues(10k isnt a lot), no offense
10k might not be a lot for you.. but a few days into the game, 10k is a lot

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by chaoticmadness
if you kicked yourself for selling a black dye for 1 g you have some financial issues(10k isnt a lot), no offense
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=condescending

I think it has little to do with finance and has more to do with the feeling someone ripped you. Even if it had to do with that being alot of gold to someone, wouldn't if that meant nothing to someone because they were so super l337 because they play gw all day long be more of a degrading issue?

warriorsmiley

warriorsmiley

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Vandal Hearts [VH]

W/

There is nothing wrong with sword warriors he meant sword warriors who used Healing Hands and other useless monk skills on a warrior. As far as that goes maybe he wanted axe for high damage spikes and hammer for KD's where as sword warriors provide more constant pressure damage.

Back on topic. Hmmm I honestly sold many worth while things to the merchant before trying to get rid of junk fast and learned put the items I use in my bags so I know not to sell them. A little bit of advice I would say is pick up all your drops and ID them as ID drops tend to fetch you a little more gold then none ID'd ones. In such areas like FOW, UW, and elite canthan missions go back when your party is done and pick up your teammates drops. I tend to make on average about 3k a FOW or UW run going back and picking up old drops. It may not sound like much but 3k adds up slowly. Also dont complain about having no money for weapons and when I join you for a quest of a mission and you dont pick up your drops it's a no brainer why you have no money then.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

When my warrior was young, I customized a req8 chaos axe received from guildmate. Everytime I look at it I shake my head.

Never, never customize a weapon, unless it is crap.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
When my warrior was young, I customized a req8 chaos axe received from guildmate. Everytime I look at it I shake my head.

Never, never customize a weapon, unless it is crap.
I customize everything I plan on using.

o_O?

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

I was in FoW I opened a chest and I got a max damage req. 9 15^50 Sephis axe and I sold to someone in ascalon for 5 plats. GG.

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

I preordered NF in a store instead of getting the PvP edition.

Would have saved me ~100 hours of grind. -.-

phallanxian

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

i customised my forgotten sword and don't regret it

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
I was in FoW I opened a chest and I got a max damage req. 9 15^50 Sephis axe and I sold to someone in ascalon for 5 plats. GG.
gg indeed
i will never forget the req 8 15% always long sword with no negative effects i sold for 70k a few months after gw release

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

played pve. .

Rabbit28

Rabbit28

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

College

The Royal Dragon Riders [TRDR]

W/

not as bad as tomahawked, but about a year ago i got a req 11 15^50 chaos axe and sold it to a guy for 30k what a deal!

found the guy in another district selling for 90k

Kahlindra

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

Aw, we could advise the newfolks or we could let em learn....

Ok i'll be nice.

When you even start to see a tiny bit of lag, don't go anywhere near that merchant. Or learn very early on to turn off bags which contain your alternative weapons.

Don't chat about random stuff on vent while deleting the pvp character you just made. An ex-guildie did this and deleted the wrong necromancer, bye bye Bortak's set.... character deletion should be a moment of ultimate concentration.

PrismOfRedLight

PrismOfRedLight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

I deleted all my characters and started over awhile back

Quote:
Originally Posted by chaoticmadness
if you kicked yourself for selling a black dye for 1 g you have some financial issues(10k isnt a lot), no offense
Off Topic--->I think 10k is alot man ive had like 5k for the past 3 months, where you be gettin all this money

Anarkii

Anarkii

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

-None-

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
When my warrior was young, I customized a req8 chaos axe received from guildmate. Everytime I look at it I shake my head.

Never, never customize a weapon, unless it is crap.
If you were planning to sell that axe, then yeah, it falls in the category of the topic; but its bad advice.

Customize all weapons you use.

Cow Tale

Cow Tale

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ocean Shores, Washington

Last Sun Rise

W/Mo

a gold droped when i was using sliver armor, i grabed it adn sliver was about to end, /resigned, next enemy that died droped another gold (2 dead enemies, 2 golds, what are the chances?) resign took effect, there i am layign next to another gold =(

escoffier

escoffier

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

known-destination:unknown

bawls deep [pron]

Rt/W

i started gw without knowing anyone in game and played all of prophecies like that...really didnt hang out in la,droks or ascalon,only where i was in game.i only kept what weps were for my class..mes...lol ya i know meganewb.god only knows what i sold to the merch.(i still hope all those golds were crap)

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

Lets see, accidently deleted a character of mine that hd over 75k in gold and several greeens on her, went into a mission with 100k one time, went into another with a full inventory and all the chests were gold plus had about 8 gold drops for me. Talk about brain farts.

Mega Mouse

leprekan

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

My biggest oops to date was selling to merchant while talking on phone and selling a stack of ecto to the scamming merchant (he knew they were worth more!!!!!!!). I got 25k at least=p After selling an almost full stack of shards same way I put a customized weapon in front of mats on char now Wow now that I think about it ... deleting pvp chars with sigils on them (when sigils were worth money) more times than I care to admit. Think I will stop thinking about it before I remember any more DOHs.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

I think that the only big mistake I ever made was selling a Chaos Axe I had bought for my warrior to a merchant, for a whopping...300 gold. Now I either keep a quest item in front of everything, or just keep everything I want out of my backpack.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

Hehe the biggest common mistake is selling your 1st(and often only) Black dye in Pre for 1g to the merchant

BigDave

BigDave

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Manchester, UK

The Sapphire Rose [TSR]

I remember several months ago i'd just bought a Victo's Battleaxe for 30k, then 2 mins later clicked "sell" one too many times at the merchant while getting rid of some crap in my inv.

I wasn't what you'd call "happy" about that

PrismOfRedLight

PrismOfRedLight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

nah i never sold my black dye to the merchant but heres a stupid act, cuss people out when they tell you gg

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorondor Port
played pve. .
i lol'd.....

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarkii
If you were planning to sell that axe, then yeah, it falls in the category of the topic; but its bad advice.

Customize all weapons you use.
Generally speaking, I no longer customize caster weapons. I do not care about 20% more damage on them, I want the mods. Technically, any weapon I only use for the mods is done this way. I *really* wish I had not customized my rago's staff as it would currently swap around my heroes. At the time, I didn't see any reason not too (unless they added new mods - and they haven't - it was the "perfect" staff for my build and still is). Weapons where the damage is the primary usefulness - always. 20% unconditional is nice on a primary damage weapon.

Personally, stupid things I have done or still do. Hmm, I get lazy and quit pulling enemies, just ctrl-space who I want everyone to attack. Especially in the Torment Regions patrols give me a party wipe from time to time. I know not to do that, I know how to pull correctly (even before we could flag the henchies I knew how) - I just get lazy.

I would say that pretty much anytime you see several people spamming "WTB" on the same item it is something of a scam - especially if you are thinking "Wow, these guys are offering a lot". They are hoping to get people before they knows things like dyes or trade contracts are worth something. Like in real life, if the deal is too good to be true it normally is. About the only exception is items traded for holiday items, people spam WTB for that stuff pretty regularly. Even then a simple query in general chat will usually get your answer if they are ripping you off (learn to detect sarcasm as you may get made fun of too).

Since I do not use the player economy I can't think of ever getting bit by the last one, however I have sold something to the merchant I should not have. Never anything really expensive - any low req decent gold I find I always check the forums and auctions to see relative worth. But I know I've sold collectors items way too cheap to a merchant quite a number of times.

And, lastly, the general "clicked sell too much at the trader" thing. Most people have done it at least once and sold something they didn't want too. The solution is that items that cost "0" can not be sold to the merchant (hats, quartermaster items, quest items, etc). In your last bag place one of them in front of anything you do not want to trade and then you can not sell them to the merchant. With multiple weapons it will take some moving around, but you can get all your weapons to swap to "safe" positions, store dyes, runes, and pretty much anything that way. It only takes one zero gold item - and everyone has access to at least one (your starter weapon).

Mr_Cynical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Region of Chosen Kings [R.O.C.K]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need
i feel the pain of stupidity many times. such times inclute when i try to set up a gvg. i want one hammer an one axe warrior, what i get is 2 hh whammos who only use sword. i try to explain to them its easy to change your secondary and their skills, but they seem to be rigor- mortised on their build. why do people act like this? Are people just so closed minded that they cant help but be noobs? (...)
Be flexible. especially in pvp. you will be asked by your team mates to change you build, and if you cant you will get the boot. the people who wan to gvg with me volunteered, and i expect them to use a usefull build. so theres my advice.
Funny, I always thought the people who ordered their team around, then threw their toys out of the pram when the others wouldn't listen to their OMG1337 advice, were the noobs.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
Generally speaking, I no longer customize caster weapons. I do not care about 20% more damage on them, I want the mods. Technically, any weapon I only use for the mods is done this way. I *really* wish I had not customized my rago's staff as it would currently swap around my heroes. At the time, I didn't see any reason not too (unless they added new mods - and they haven't - it was the "perfect" staff for my build and still is). Weapons where the damage is the primary usefulness - always. 20% unconditional is nice on a primary damage weapon.
Wasn't sure if you meant that you wished you hadn't customized it so you could use it on your heroes. If that's what you meant, you're fine as heroes can use items customized for your character.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Killing yourself with the catapult in GvG. You know who you are.

Ulivious The Reaper

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Killing yourself with the catapult in GvG. You know who you are.


I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS OKAY?!?!


i have to say dumbest thing i've ever done was place a rez signet in a solo build

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
running mending on a w/mo...
you're correct i don't understand why people use mending as a w/mo healing touch SOOOO beats mending /sarcasm

however mending is failure on a warrior.. only should be used on a 55 monk.. even then only sparingly

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

running mending on a w/mo...

Grolubao

Grolubao

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Almada, Portugal

SilĂȘncio Nocturno

Mo/A

After seeing a e-surge warrior tank, a necromancer with lvl 3 flesh golems, echoing mending, or simply a monk/sin with dagger attack I believe I've seen it all...

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulivious The Reaper


I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS OKAY?!?!


i have to say dumbest thing i've ever done was place a rez signet in a solo build

now that is funny :P

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

When I first started playing and got to Lion's Arch, was looking through the Rare Material NPC and saw Ectoplasm selling for 300 gold and wondered what Ecto was used for. A couple days later I realized that I should have bought as much as I could buy.

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

ok, i take back what i said...the two worst things ive ever seen are a A/N running a flesh golem as his elite and a monk keeping mending up on a full party of 8...why he didnt just bond i dont know...

Kryth

Kryth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ascalon

Venatori Solaris

Here are some mistakes I and people I know have done and what others should not do

- In the 2nd month of GW Prop, without checking the Rare Material Trader I sold the first ecto I got for 3k. Even if I asked what it was used for, and even if I knew the guy was lying when he said "I dunno" I was craving for money. So be patient when selling things like mentioned above and do a market check I might add

- In GvG don't touch trabuchets if you are not sure what they do, happened to my pal when we were almost winning ( we were gonna enter enemy lords areaa ) and got bombarded (500+dmg I still remember) when more than half the team was destroyed. Luckily we still won and that part I don't remember how.

- Don't spam SELL button while talking to Merch. I haven't sold anything accidentally but I must underline this.

- Don't insist that your build is better. It just may not. Again look into what your teammates / guildies are advising you to use. GW PVP is about teamplay.

- I also had a res signet in a solo build ffs.

- Don't be a loner. It's a MMORPG u can't imagine the advantages of knowing many people. You can even make friends

I'll edit when I got more -_-