Guild Wars: Utopia

noir0

noir0

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Conspiracy theory time!!

Utopia means no place right? so guild wars no place(utopia) the registered domain... could be some sort of pre regesterd sight to sayt there will be something there but not yet? or.. i think i got my wording wrong >_>

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
The gold selling ad is provided by google. It is in no way connected to NCsoft or ArenaNet.
It's kind of obvious they didn't make that page, I didn't suggest that. I only said they don't back buying ingame items.

It isn't beyond NCSofts abilities to make a simple page saying 'coming soon' or 'under construction'.

And how do people get that registration info?

Phenick

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Wouldn't it be giving away more information if they made a place holder page?

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

"Utopia" sounds like the name of a fansite, really. We know for a fact that it's NCsoft that registered the name?

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenick
Wouldn't it be giving away more information if they made a place holder page?
I don't think so, not if it had nothing on it, if it just said 'this domain has been registered', it wouldn't be telling more than already given on the current one.

I still don't know how people find this registration info out. Maybe they are leet hackers and I am just a noob...

FeuerFrei

FeuerFrei

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

In the middle of WWIII

Airreon Grievers[AG]

R/Mo

still no confirmation from gaile or alex?

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Quote:
Originally Posted by tre_peter
I don't think so, not if it had nothing on it, if it just said 'this domain has been registered', it wouldn't be telling more than already given on the current one.

I still don't know how people find this registration info out. Maybe they are leet hackers and I am just a noob...
Again they do not create new chapter sites. They link them to the official site.

And all it takes is a simple WHOIS lookup. As posted by Neven and Me the GUILDWARSNIGHTFALL.COM and GUILDWARSUTOPIA.COM registrars appear to be the same.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

EDIT:::::


info was already posted

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
"Utopia" sounds like the name of a fansite, really. We know for a fact that it's NCsoft that registered the name?

Anet highly values their Fansites for Guild Wars. The last thing they would do would be make a website. With that said, we know the following.

It is registered under NC/Anet...which proves that its NOT fansite, maybe an Anet forum, but that wouldn't make any sense, because Anet loves their fansites and forums.

And yes, NCsoft registered the name....

So looking at the history, we can easily assume that this is the next game, duh.

They made the same types of websites for Factions and Nightfall, why not Utopia?

It has to be Utopia...theres no other logical reason for them to reserve those domain names.

uther necro

uther necro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

You Cannot Escape It You Are [Wave]

E/Me

when does this one come out? if im correct april and they still have had no press releases on it...

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

well, not that I really care what the next chapter will be called, but from past experience I can assume that the only good thing about it will be the armors since its the factions team working on it.............

Neven15

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Holly Warriors

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
well, not that I really care what the next chapter will be called, but from past experience I can assume that the only good thing about it will be the armors since its the factions team working on it.............
dude for me factions armor sucked, nihtfall armors are better but thats just
my point of armor view

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Maybe its for a wiki! they did think about it, if i remember right...

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Kong
Maybe its for a wiki! they did think about it, if i remember right...
My thoughts are along the same line. The idea of it being a centralised area for information seems more probable than most of the other wild fantasies flying around.

Liberations

Liberations

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Azeroth (shhh)

Ryders of the Sword [FrNd]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Pet - Hearty Bird of Paradise
Dear Arenanet, you have been sued for using a trademark of Wizards of the Coast inc.

Actually i dont know if Wizards cpyrighted that Magic: The Gathering Card, but the card "Birds of Paradise might be too similar to the card name to be excepted. OFF TOPIC

Anyway I don't really like the name and I could definitely see people being embarrased to pick it up in the store... PLEASE DONT USE THIS NAME!

Also, I hope this chapter is as good or better than Nightfall and recieves a fair rating from the reviewers and good publicity, else Guild Wars might never rise out of the black hole it would be heading for.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Here's a Nightfall concept art revealing a flail wielding warrior. It could be a profession in C4
the chains hang from both wrists, thats not his weapon. Im assuming those are javelins on his back and not arrows.

And btw im also thinking GW:"Utopia" is so lame it hurts.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Symeon
I wonder what lies east of Ascalon/Crystal Desert and north of Vabbi? I can't remember anyone discussing that before. The majority seem to be talking about west/north of Tyria (which are the more probable locations for C4, but still). We also know that there are many hidden reefs/islands between Elona and Cantha, navigated by the Corsairs and the Luxons.

East or south of Cantha is also something to think about... and then there's the possibility of a 'new world' chapter across the 'unending ocean'... but I won't deny that the most convincing idea for C4 is the Mursaat homeland, west of the Maguuma. A northern continent comes second place for me, since I asked Gaile whether there was anything north of Tyria and she had never heard of it before. That could just be a 'I know nothing' cover-up, though .
Good question. I'm guessing more deserts to the east unless there is an appreciable body of water. Maybe some more charr controled lands to the north-east. I think the charr come from the north so there has to be at least some non-artic lands still to the north of ascalon. While we are on the subject, I wonder what's to the west of the magumma jungle.

fRag_Doll

fRag_Doll

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

Prid of Ankh Morpork [Prid]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaMouse
For frag Doll: love how you put the maps together. Heck I never even thought of doing that. Good job this clears up a few questions that even I was wondering on. In agreement on the possible placement of Cantha, not sure exactly where it will fit in in the future.

Mega Mouse
Thanks MM.

I've done a little research into the whole "hints are in the manuscripts" rumour and come up with a revised version of the Tyrian world map.

According to page 47 of the GW:NF manuscripts,
Quote:
Corsairs
"The corsairs have remained free by learning to survive in treacherous waters, sailing where the Istani will not follow. Their fleets remain hidden near the most dangerous stretches of the Elonian coast. Between the northwest coast of Cantha and the southern rim of Elona, a deadly sea is troubled by sudden storms and cyclones, hidden reefs and dangerous sea creatures."
So, this seems to be a more logical position for Cantha.



I also found something interesting in the Prophecies manuscripts.

Page 38, Saul D'Alessio - Founder of the White Mantle.
Quote:
"Saul D'Alessio was a fallen man. A gambler and a drunk, Saul reached the lowest point in his life when he lost a bet he could not repay. At the time, the local betting house was run by the Lucky Horseshoe, a gambling guild whose influence spanned almost the entire length of the continent. To avoid defaulting on his payment, Saul took to robbing merchants travelling the road from Beetletun to Shaemoor. Though he successfully paid his debt to the Lucky Horseshoe, he was eventually fingered by one of his victims and tried as a thief. His punishment was exile from the Kingdom of Kryta. The authorities blindfolded him and rode him out three weeks before leaving him to fend for himself.

Alone, broke and lost, Saul wandered through a dense forrest for several days, surviving on only roots and berries. On the fourth day, delerious with hunger, Saul emerged from the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination - a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. The architecture was astounding and the creatures who lived there were unlike any he had ever seen. Walking down into their city, Saul got a closer look at the denizens of this place. They were talll and thin with strange wing-like appendages that waved about in the slightest breeze. When they walked, their feet seemed not to touch the ground, and when they spoke, it was the most melodious sound he had ever heard. Surely these creatures were the stuff of divinity. Hungry and exhausted, his clothes ragged and dirty, Saul dropped to his knees and touched his forehead to the ground. He had found his gods and they, in turn, had found their most devoted disciple."
Now, anyone that has played through Prophecies will know that this is about the Mursaat, but what I found interesting is the description of their city.
It sounds like a pretty typical description of 'Utopia' to me, and the "rode him out for three weeks" part would logically have to be west of Kryta, since east is the Shiverpeaks, north is Charr lands and south is an ocean.

I can see why the Mursaat homeland is a popular theory for C4.

Symeon

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by fRag_Doll
I'm pretty sure that's not the correct position of Cantha. Jiaju Tai (Canthan NPC in Lion's Arch) describes Cantha as 'south, across the ocean... past the ruins of Orr, past the islands of fire, past the crystal lands of burning sun, and beyond the clashing seas.' There is no mention of passing Elona there, only the southern lands of Tyria, and then you head out into the clashing seas. Besides, don't you think we would have noticed we were passing Elona as we were on the ship to Cantha?

Quote:
"Between the northwest coast of Cantha and the southern rim of Elona, a deadly sea is troubled by sudden storms and cyclones, hidden reefs and dangerous sea creatures."
This sentence does not place Cantha southeast of Elona. Look at it like this:


(not to scale - the distance between Elona and Cantha is probably a lot greater, so these 'deadly seas' would cover a much larger area)

The red line goes from 'the southern rim of Elona' to 'the northwest coast of Cantha', and the 'deadly seas' are between those two points. So, I think that sentence just means 'from this corner to this corner'.

Also, there is likely some space between the Tyria and Elona maps - if you look at the dark, rocky area of the northern Desolation, and then the sandy Crystal Desert, you can see that they do not match.

Quote:
Now, anyone that has played through Prophecies will know that this is about the Mursaat, but what I found interesting is the description of their city.
It sounds like a pretty typical description of 'Utopia' to me, and the "rode him out for three weeks" part would logically have to be west of Kryta, since east is the Shiverpeaks, north is Charr lands and south is an ocean.
The Shiverpeaks don't necessarily spread north of Kryta. The 'dense forest' that Saul D'Alessio wandered through could lie in the green lands north of Nebo Terrace, above the two giant lakes.

My best guess is that a Central/Southern American continent covered in jungle and rocky mountains lies west of the Maguuma. A chapter set there would fit the 'Mayan/Aztec theme' that Michel of Easy Interactive spoke of. I just wonder how 'Utopia' relates to this... Shangri-La springs to mind, though not South American, the Himalayan setting could easily be slotted into a mountain range resembling the Andes.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by noir0
Conspiracy theory time!!

Utopia means no place right? so guild wars no place(utopia) the registered domain... could be some sort of pre regesterd sight to sayt there will be something there but not yet? or.. i think i got my wording wrong >_>
What? No...I don't think this is game that you need to overanalyze

noir0

noir0

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Hey, i never said it was a good consipiracy theory, was just throwing it out there, lol.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Guild Wars: Utopia introduces "life" skills. After having defeated the Lich, Shiro and Abaddon, our heroes settle down for a chapter and learn how to mine, fish, farm, craft and more. Except for the occassional wolf trying to kill your sheep, don't think you'll be needing weapons this chapter.

Time to hang up that armor and put on some working clothes.

Its true, my brother's mom's sister's uncle told me so.

Naga The Apocalypse

Naga The Apocalypse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Diversionary Tactics [DT]

R/Me

well its safe to say the mursaat were on our side, sacrificing chosen to power the soul batteries and keep the door of komali sealed shut, preventing demons from the foundry of failed creations to take over tyria. also meaning they arent happy with us opening the gate and turning on them, though i doubt the titans released could destroy the sacred mursaat city, they were damaged, and who's fault is that? ours and the seers for turning us agensed the mursaat, so i seriously doubt that the mursaat will ever ally with us in any chapter. also wat happened to the seers? those floating dudes dissapperaed once the door was open, so i'm assuming the seers will somehow be involved in chapter 4, as an enemy of some sort.

Blackest Rose

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Yes! - I've worked it out...

After combining my skills honed from my degrees in and years of study of Rocket Science, Mathematics and Talking Trash - I've worked out what Chapter 4 is.

Chapter 3 was Nightfall right - well then what follows night.... come on everyone.... no not stars dummy..... try again..... yeah that's right
Chapter 4 will be Sunrise - Guild Wars Sunrise

The story is also obvious :
The fifth God has a hangover and you must stop the sun from rising so he can get sleep to cure it. Otherwise he will smite thee with furious wrath! (i.e. hit you upside the head with a shoe)

It's a race against time - one of the new classes of Chapter 4 is :
Yawners - these have the ability to put people to sleep by yawning and force feeding cookies and warm milk into enemies (with the occasional gingerbread shield - see I knew there was a reason for them!) until they explode.

The other class is of course a secret until release...
But we have early artwork - Here's one of the yawners :

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Apologies to anyone who doesn't like a small step into the absurd in the thread.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

actually EU-topia is good place; whereas U-topia is 'no place' from the Greek. More's book of that name was about an imaginary ideal society, one that didn't actually exist.... Rather like GW4, or anything else where we think or imagine its perfection, reality always intervenes. In this case, the reality is, for $40 is perfection worth it?

Phenick

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackest Rose
Yes! - I've worked it out...

It's a race against time - one of the new classes of Chapter 4 is :
Yawners - these have the ability to put people to sleep by yawning and force feeding cookies and warm milk into enemies (with the occasional gingerbread shield - see I knew there was a reason for them!) until they explode.
To be honest they should add Sleep as a condition I think it would be awesome... Like a Time Mage that causes different levels of sleep condition, where you won;t be effective in skills at the low level and youll literally fall asleep at the high level, but obviously if your targeted you would wake up and what not...

fRag_Doll

fRag_Doll

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

Prid of Ankh Morpork [Prid]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Symeon
Quote:
"Between the northwest coast of Cantha and the southern rim of Elona, a deadly sea is troubled by sudden storms and cyclones, hidden reefs and dangerous sea creatures."
This sentence does not place Cantha southeast of Elona.
True, but when talking about an ocean as being 'between' two points of land it is logical that they refer to the points where the lands are closest to each other.
I'm not saying I'm right, only someone at ANet could say for sure where Cantha's exact location is, I'm just pointing out what seems logical to me from evidence I have seen.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

"I believe "ahai" is the appropriate greeting, yes? Well, ahai, (character name)! I am Jatoro Musagi. I hail from the southwest, where the great island of Shing Jea rests upon clear cool shores. Cantha is home to the great Dragon Empire."

This is what Jatoro says when you talk to him in Elona. You remember Jatoro right? That guy that fakes getting kidnapped and makes you fight 20,000 Crimson Skull on Shing Jea? Yea, that guy. He proves that Cantha is southwest of Elona.

Gotta love wiki...

Calahan

Calahan

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Europe->Poland->Łódź

Alea Iacta Est [AIE]

Mo/

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_bl...stnews;title;4
it's too bad :/ but they should anounce c4 soon

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

I checked the United States Patent and Trademark Office and there's no registered trademark for Guild Wars:Utopia. But there was for Guild Wars:Nightfall and Guild Wars:Factions. Anyone can register a for a domain name for a couple dollars as long as it's available. To register for a trademark, it requires some proof you're entitled to it.

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Time to shut down this rumor, now that it's been proven false. Closed.