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TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

14 Jan 2007 at 21:01 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi

argh...i cant believe people like these are still around. Theres nothing bad about the factions team.

Factions team sucks until they proof wrong.

If chapter 4 is awesome good, better than nightfall and prophecies togheter with alot of innovations, i will forgive them and will say that Factions Team has talent and rules. But if not.. F*** Them.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

14 Jan 2007 at 21:21 - 122

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiNkLeR

Factions team sucks until they proof wrong.

If chapter 4 is awesome good, better than nightfall and prophecies togheter with alot of innovations, i will forgive them and will say that Factions Team has talent and rules. But if not.. F*** Them.

You're completely biased. Not everyone hates Factions. I for one, loved the fast leveling. Less time spent being useless IMO. Don't make this into another "Factions sucks" thread.

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

14 Jan 2007 at 21:31 - 123

Must I grab the Ugly Stick? People think Factions sucked generally for 2 reasons:

It was experimenting with a different game route (more connected with pvp - some people dont like that)

And the obvious second reason that seems to be neglected to be mentioned time and time again is.......... We had HIGH expectations for Factions with the things we got with Prophecies (such as the free update = Sorrow's Furnace) and what not.

So the conclusion is here, it seemed bad when we initially played it, but now you can see it was actually a good chapter, just had an objective hybrid to pvp more people don't care for. Thats it!

So if I was to take the Ugly Stick and wack a few of you, I'd do it while saying: "LOOK AT YOUR CANTHA ARMOR, YOU SEE HOW GREAT IT IS COMPARED TO NIGHTFALL'S?", "YEAH! *BAM* "SEE THAT?" *BAM* "IT'S WELL MADE!" *BAM*BAM*BAM* And look who looks ugly now? Ahem...

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

14 Jan 2007 at 21:32 - 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by JONO51

What if your all going in the wrong direction? What if it goes back in time.

I've thought about this, also thought of forward in time. Imagine visiting rebuilt Ascalon or something during your quest to do X... etc.

I'd love that. Zelda OoT comes to mind...

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

14 Jan 2007 at 21:36 - 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by floppinghog

Must I grab the Ugly Stick? People think Factions sucked generally for 2 reasons:

It was experimenting with a different game route (more connected with pvp - some people dont like that)

And the obvious second reason that seems to be neglected to be mentioned time and time again is.......... We had HIGH expectations for Factions with the things we got with Prophecies (such as the free update = Sorrow's Furnace) and what not.

So the conclusion is here, it seemed bad when we initially played it, but now you can see it was actually a good chapter, just had an objective hybrid to pvp more people don't care for. Thats it!

So if I was to take the Ugly Stick and wack a few of you, I'd do it while saying: "LOOK AT YOUR CANTHA ARMOR, YOU SEE HOW GREAT IT IS COMPARED TO NIGHTFALL'S?", "YEAH! *BAM* "SEE THAT?" *BAM* "IT'S WELL MADE!" *BAM*BAM*BAM* And look who looks ugly now? Ahem...

You talk too much for a snowman with an armor.
Chill

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

14 Jan 2007 at 21:38 - 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by floppinghog

Must I grab the Ugly Stick? People think Factions sucked generally for 2 reasons:

It was experimenting with a different game route (more connected with pvp - some people dont like that)

And the obvious second reason that seems to be neglected to be mentioned time and time again is.......... We had HIGH expectations for Factions with the things we got with Prophecies (such as the free update = Sorrow's Furnace) and what not.

So the conclusion is here, it seemed bad when we initially played it, but now you can see it was actually a good chapter, just had an objective hybrid to pvp more people don't care for. Thats it!

So if I was to take the Ugly Stick and wack a few of you, I'd do it while saying: "LOOK AT YOUR CANTHA ARMOR, YOU SEE HOW GREAT IT IS COMPARED TO NIGHTFALL'S?", "YEAH! *BAM* "SEE THAT?" *BAM* "IT'S WELL MADE!" *BAM*BAM*BAM* And look who looks ugly now? Ahem...

Thanks for that, I've been wondering why people have such distaste for Factions. Personally I think it's the most visually stunning chapter of the bunch. Coming out of the sewers of Kaineng and into Pongmei valley is just surreal. The petrified forest and jade seas are quite possibly the most gorgeous and unique locations I've ever seen in a game. I like the plot, I love the challenging gameplay, and even though I'm a PvE player I don't really mind the PvP connection all that much (I simply don't find it all that intrusive). Honestly, aside from Heroes, I think I like Factions more than Nightfall (which is painfully drab visually, for all that the plot's great).

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

14 Jan 2007 at 21:45 - 127

Lets face it a nuclear bomb-site would look good after that city and those lovely sewers...

Maybe people also disliked the nature of the city quests as well ?

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

14 Jan 2007 at 22:30 - 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by floppinghog

So if I was to take the Ugly Stick and wack a few of you, I'd do it while saying: "LOOK AT YOUR CANTHA ARMOR, YOU SEE HOW GREAT IT IS COMPARED TO NIGHTFALL'S?", "YEAH! *BAM* "SEE THAT?" *BAM* "IT'S WELL MADE!" *BAM*BAM*BAM* And look who looks ugly now? Ahem...

I salute you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

That was awesome. Of course Faction was short, but that doesn't mean it sucked.

Actually Faction skills and new gameplay/mission types are the most important aspect of the game right now.

You will not find a build that works really well, and hasn't been nerfed that does not have a faction skill in it.

Also, Elite Mission, Challenge Mission, Competetive Missions, Alliance battles and also HA are the most amusing aspects of the game.

For God's Sake, if Faction sucked, why did professional gamers prefer it over all other chapters??? why did it receive so many awards.

IT ROCKS, but i still like prophecies better, maybe cuz it was my first, and I just like getting my characters infused, INFUSION FTW!!!

*COUGH* AND GUYZ WE ARE GOING OFF TOPIC HERE, THIS IS A PLACE FOR GW4 NOT GW2.

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

14 Jan 2007 at 22:35 - 129

Guild Wars: Utopia

Will be almost for sure about the Orr, and will be based on water. Since gaile gray wouldnt ask us if we would like fishing skills in chapter 4 for nothing.

Orr and mursaat. We go from the mursaat and then we will go to underwater citys that Orr are living.

It would be awesome :P

grottoftl

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

14 Jan 2007 at 22:42 - 130

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregslot

You talk too much for a snowman with an armor.
Chill

I agree. floppinghog you need to chill. those people are just stating their opinion on why they don't like Factions, you don't need to bite their heads off for it. if you enjoy Factions then good for you. the way you respond to people and especially on this thread makes you sound like an immature moron. just chill man.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

14 Jan 2007 at 23:12 - 131

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiNkLeR

Factions team sucks until they proof wrong.

If chapter 4 is awesome good, better than nightfall and prophecies togheter with alot of innovations, i will forgive them and will say that Factions Team has talent and rules. But if not.. F*** Them.

heh factions was my favorite expansion, and if you dont think they have talent lets see you make a better expansion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tre_peter

I've thought about this, also thought of forward in time. Imagine visiting rebuilt Ascalon or something during your quest to do X... etc.

I'd love that. Zelda OoT comes to mind...

you cant do a thing going BACK in time because everything you do back in time would change what happens in the future chapters which would be 1, 2, and 3. Havent you ever watched back to the future!!

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

14 Jan 2007 at 23:14 - 132

Anyone else old enough to remember the 16bit game Utopia? It was a very classy sim-city in space type deal. It actually seems logical to me that the follow-on from a game where everything was at risk of descending into hell, would be about a new dawn of civilisation (which is what the word Utopia says to me).

Oh and Factions is the best Guild Wars.

(I'm just reaching the end of all 3 chapters, simultaneously and my conclusion is that Prophecies is too slow/bland and Nightfall is too easy. Factions is bloody perfect).

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

14 Jan 2007 at 23:49 - 133

Lol, Utopia..... I'll feel like such an idiot while preordering lol, like someone said
"Could i please have guild wars....Uptopia" (i hate EB staff!)
I really wish that it wont just have one solid terrain theme. The reason I liked prophecies alot is because it had wasteland, lush green grasses, Snowy mountains, Jungle,desert and Islands that spewed lava. So heres hoping that ...utopia... will have a smorgusboard (how do you spell that!?!?) of areas and not just one.

/puts fireman jacket on

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

15 Jan 2007 at 00:25 - 134

Ok here is some breakthroughs on Utopia, there is currently some games out there with the same name. And also I have found some pictures which might show some landscapes we would be looking forward to. Here it goes:

http://ewancient.lysator.liu.se/pic/...man/utopia.jpg

Now all you need to do is imagine these pictures in a GW manner, and there you have it folks...

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

15 Jan 2007 at 00:58 - 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMSDome

this game would make its way to my all-time favorite game if it had fishing. I would never stop fishing in Guild Wars even if it was wasted time, fishing would BE AWSOME!!!!

I like the idea of having fishing in the game as a mini-game/time passing quest and other such ideas if they are put there for players to do as an option, but not for any primary quest or mission.

Also, on the note of having large groups of ppl participate? why not have it in towns? Using the fishing idea as an example, ppl could fish in towns that have large amounts of water (Lions, Fishermans (duh)). Wont affect the instancing or having to make a new town if it is apart of the regular world.

Anphobia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Me

15 Jan 2007 at 00:58 - 136

Guild Wars : Utopia

A rich kingdom led by a young queen (Gwen, although older) faces threats from Mursaat or some kind of new enemy (either would be very cool).

Her inexperience due to young age and a generally peacefull life, summons the hero (You :-p) to come save the day.

Meanwhile, Mhenlo and the gang are in the Job Centre.

I think that would keep my attention.

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

15 Jan 2007 at 01:01 - 137

*Paradox alert!*

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMSDome

you cant do a thing going BACK in time because everything you do back in time would change what happens in the future chapters which would be 1, 2, and 3. Havent you ever watched back to the future!!

Ah, I disagree. For example, what if some crazy moron discovered magical time travel and was going back in time for his own evil gain? The story involved heros going back in time to make sure nothing does change.

In this case. the state of present day is dependant on an altered past. To not go back in time would cause change things.

e.g. Preventing the murder of your mother before your own birth, so that you can be born, grow up and go back in time... An infinitly looping order of events.

e.g. The Terminator Series. I like.

saneo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

15 Jan 2007 at 01:11 - 138

Oh! I'd just love to see the metallic dolphins frolicking in the waves around Lion's Bay!

On a more serious note, Utopia...maybe some new game mechanics? Players have the option of choosing to live in the Floating Castle with Stardust the Magical Pink Unicorn of Magic or in the Sparkling City and meet notables like Prince Charming and Sleeping Beauty! And maybe the plot would involve an mean old giant who is really just misunderstood and only steals people's cookies because everyone is afraid of him.

I really hope Utopia is just a working title, and that it doesn't reflect the true nature of the next chapter.

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

15 Jan 2007 at 01:43 - 139

In the next chapter you will be able to mount chrome dolphins. These pictures do not lie.

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

15 Jan 2007 at 01:43 - 140

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feme Assassin

i am sure ch4 name will be utopia and if it comes from a greek word utopia we will see green gardens and waterfalls and magic places with birds singing and hot woman a true heaven

Utopia originally meant "no place" in Greek. It wasn't until the Renaissance, when Thomas More wrote "Utopia," that "no place" took the meaning of "perfect place." Up until then, "no place" never implied the place was good.

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

15 Jan 2007 at 02:08 - 141

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feme Assassin

i am sure ch4 name will be utopia and if it comes from a greek word utopia we will see green gardens and waterfalls and magic places with birds singing and hot woman a true heaven

damn right

... unfortunatly here comes the true meaning of the word... means a place that does not exist but instead is an idealistic society. As with most of the rumors I heard about both campaigns turned out to be true so im believing it... from what I know its about the Mursatt here let me steal a quote from another forum

Quote:

Utopia. What, in all the history of Guild Wars, does that make you think of?

... on the fourth day, Saul emerged from among the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination—a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. It was a sight to behold, alabaster and golden filigree. This was a place of purity, a place where a man such as Saul could begin anew...

Janthir, city of the Mursaat.

probably the story is about the holy angels the mursatt and their homeland and how their story ties into the whole plot of the story. In a utopia of the mursatt homeland not everything is as perfect as it seems? Nightfall handbook mentions of 4 areas doing trade in a specific part of the timeline. 4 areas were Cantha, Elona, Tyria and the Northern Reigion.... as far as i remember the char is from the northern region man i hope i kick some char ass in chp4!!! FOR ASCALON!!!!

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

15 Jan 2007 at 02:18 - 142

Whatever it means (I'm thinking it refers to a perfect society where everything works in harmony), I'm not going to believe this is the next chapter's name until I hear more about it.

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

15 Jan 2007 at 02:33 - 143

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Whatever it means (I'm thinking it refers to a perfect society where everything works in harmony), I'm not going to believe this is the next chapter's name until I hear more about it.

its most likely called utopia... anet is not stupid and you have to be a bit naive not to think anet is doing this on purpose as a publicity stunt to create buzz in the community. Im 99.99% sure that its gona be called utopia but isn't going to be about a perfect land... instead as with nightfall it probably stands for some kind of allegory.

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

15 Jan 2007 at 03:09 - 144

YES AGREED.
It is most probable that Chapter 4 is called Utopia, but that does not mean you need to hate it. It is still Guild Wars. Hey has anyone thought of the fact that direct X 10 is coming and maybe Anet will take advantage of its vast powers. Like updated combat system, better texture...Z-AXIS...!!!

So does anyone have any new ideas on Professions or possible lore. So far we have speculated about the geographic region, and races or places that will be visited, and what it is based on. However, there has been no speculation about possible profession or other pve stuff, maybe new pvp gameplay...

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

15 Jan 2007 at 03:10 - 145

So far I found evidence of a profession similar to other games' Bard. Check Wikipedia, or here: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83394
for more info.
Let us venture to Mursaat's Land and discover the truth.

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

15 Jan 2007 at 07:05 - 146

On the Char, in the Guild Wars lore it is said that they were forced out of their homeland by an "Unknown" force. Saying that if we go to the Char homeland there shouldn't be any Char there.
Mursaat. He was walked for 2 weeks then turned loose,after which he wandered the "JUNGLES" for some time until stumbling upona great city inhabited by beigns with golden skin in white outfits. Again can't possibly be the Mursaat homeland due to the lore of how Saul De-Alessio found them and began o worship them "like" gods
I do believe that Chapter 4 will contain a continent that knows nothing about war and has vast lush fields and forets. The people that inhabit this land will come to Elona, Tyria,and Cantha asking for helpagainst the same unknown forcee that forcedthe Char out of their homeland. Some players just need torefresh their Guild Wars lore before posting.

Mega Mouse

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

15 Jan 2007 at 07:52 - 147

Mega Mouse, you have been flaming at people and their opinion in almost every thread in this forum. PLEASE, if you want them to listen to you, simply state your speculation, and stop "stomping" others. Thank you.

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

15 Jan 2007 at 08:24 - 148

I think Utopia means:
-Prequel
-A golden age getting messed up by guildwarring for power

A pvp game with old day Ascalon, Orr and Kryta maybe?

That means we may get our beloved Ascalon back!

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

15 Jan 2007 at 08:25 - 149

Uh if we get to fish in GW .... can I use my bass master pro fishing controller?

Sooty

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Giggity Giggity Goo

15 Jan 2007 at 08:31 - 150

Guild Wars Utopia sounds more like a good name for a fansite to me. They might just be covering their bases on several possible names.

Some Guru Named Kai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

westAscalon4lyfe?

Giggity Giggity [GOO]

W/

15 Jan 2007 at 08:40 - 151

Hah! I see you sooty!

anywho... greek theme could be a nice god vs titan epic battle type of thing... not to mention, a horse with wings as a pet..

Going back in time... haha, since we can ride worms, let us ride in a Delorian!

doinchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Singapore

Sheperd of Souls

W/Mo

15 Jan 2007 at 10:54 - 152

This is one chapter I really have been wanting. My favourite game environments are light jungles and snowy areas. I read the article on guild wiki and I hope what they said about a high tech atlantis like civilization would be awesome. I cannot wait.

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

15 Jan 2007 at 11:47 - 153

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegeroth

So yeh - Mursaat Allies sounds nice, now that we understand each other, not that we actually understand them :P

Not "allies" but "charmables". Imagine having a Mursaat Ele as a pet. The only cooler pet I can think of would be a bear that shoots laser beams out of his eyes. Aw man, that would be so f***ing awesome!

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

15 Jan 2007 at 11:53 - 154

Here's another theory to put in the speculation pile....

If they're going to name the next chapter, Utopia, the reason behind on why they have it titled could be about the story. Maybe not about a great Utopian city and surroundings once we arrive there...it could be about the Villain's vision. The Villain's intention is to create a Utopian society where there will be peace for all throughout the land, but his or her good intention could cause an imbalance (good and evil kind of thing) and the Villain doesn't care about the imbalance. He or she will cause war and destruction against anyone who opposes him or her in order to get what she wants.

Just an idea I'm putting out

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

15 Jan 2007 at 12:10 - 155

8 pages of speculation about C4 ( this one done by the factions team right?), i think i am bored of it already.

Whats C5 again?

doinchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Singapore

Sheperd of Souls

W/Mo

15 Jan 2007 at 13:30 - 156

In the wikipedia entry it mentions the possibility of an advanced "Atlantis" like civilization. This is rampant speculation, but if "Atlantis" is the starting point for the campaign, maybe they could introduce a class wielding a musket or something?

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

15 Jan 2007 at 14:49 - 157

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataphract

Not "allies" but "charmables". Imagine having a Mursaat Ele as a pet. The only cooler pet I can think of would be a bear that shoots laser beams out of his eyes. Aw man, that would be so f***ing awesome!

I have a picture for you, took place on the Thunderhead Keep Mission a week or so ago...

I believe its something close to what you want

Yes, it was unfortunately hostile

You longer need to be an Ele to deal massive damage!
All you need is a Thunderclap Bear!

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

15 Jan 2007 at 15:01 - 158

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegeroth

I have a picture for you, took place on the Thunderhead Keep Mission a week or so ago...

I believe its something close to what you want

*snip to save space*

Yes, it was unfortunately hostile

You longer need to be an Ele to deal massive damage!
All you need is a Thunderclap Bear!

I saw that! It seems to happen to one Mursaat per mission...I screenshotted mine too...this time a Jade Bow appeared as a lvl 5 Black Bear...nice touch of humour...I hope it doesn't get fixed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

8 pages of speculation about C4 ( this one done by the factions team right?), i think i am bored of it already.

Whats C5 again?

Maybe they made Factions look bad so C5 would look really good!

Personally I loved Factions...it's home.

MrTickle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

delete this account

N/

15 Jan 2007 at 16:19 - 159

What ever it is I hope it's as large as Prophecies (map-wise) I don't want to be able to finish it within a week and get GMC title. I'm looking forward to it what ever they decide to call it

Lamont Shadow

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

15 Jan 2007 at 16:33 - 160

About that Mursaat appearing as a bear -

not long ago I was north of the gate in pre-searing and cntl showed a warthog in red - hostile. I was wondering what would make it hostile and so I went to look and it was actually an oakheart but had been titled warthog - I already had a pet so I could not try it but I have often wondered since if it would have been charmable.

In any case - I'm getting a little tired of spell casters and technologically themed utopia might be fun - my sin could really use an uzi and my pargon is just itching to throw a grenade or two.