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Divine Slaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Young Money Merger [YM]

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14 Jan 2007 at 01:32 - 81

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

i think Guild Wars:Utopia will like be most MMORPGs wherein you can interact with LOTS of players in an instance do things such as fishing, kill monsters, player killing, hunt in groups and collect uber items.

I'd certaintly hope not. If I wanted to do that I would go play WoW.

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

14 Jan 2007 at 01:46 - 82

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Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious

Not likely, that would require more server maintenance, which is cost prohibitive.

maybe they found a way to simulate a mmo server using their technologies that they tweaked or whatever. and look at the subtitle, Utopia, meaning imaginary and Guild Wars:Utopia will give us a completely new experience. see, guildwars' 3 chapters was all about there was somethin evil threatening a race and the heroes will come along and save the day. so maybe chapter 4 will let us use our characters and zone to a map somewhere wherein there's a large scale interaction. i know im wrong but hey it can happen.

this is a rumor mongering thread anyway.

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Originally Posted by Divine Slaya

I'd certaintly hope not. If I wanted to do that I would go play WoW.

monthly fees? lol

Mr_T_bot

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14 Jan 2007 at 02:07 - 83

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Originally Posted by luinks

my hopes are they won't be cheap and discard the cg rendered intro movie, i was really disappointed with nightfall on this...

Judging by the notes it was a teaser trailer.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

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14 Jan 2007 at 02:12 - 84

They are going to give me my Zealous Ak-47 of fortitude...

I mean it. Gaile didn't promise! That means I'll get it!

Alfrond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

The United States

Boston Guild [BG]

Mo/Me

14 Jan 2007 at 02:55 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Slaya

I'd certaintly hope not. If I wanted to do that I would go play WoW.

Personally, I think things like fishing would be kind of cool. Its always neat to have more things to do. However, since many people seem to dislike doing these "life skills" type things, I guess they should probably be optional.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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14 Jan 2007 at 03:07 - 86

fishing doesnt really sound like something they should put on the back of the box lol. like the heroes....i can see it now.......never fish alone......never be hungry.....fish!

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

14 Jan 2007 at 03:22 - 87

"Life skills" crap really has no place in an action RPG like GW. Fortunately I'm pretty confidant that Anet knows that. People that want to turn this game into WoW should really go play WoW and leave the rest of us with the superior game, thanks.

Sca2pula

Ascalonian Squire

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Land Down Under

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14 Jan 2007 at 03:32 - 88

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Originally Posted by Brandon1107

Ok I think everyone now know that Utopia means - Paradise

Now that we got that through, I remember on the release of NF there was an artical stating to look out for clues about the next chapter. Anyone found any clues? I think its going to be at the Mursaat home land or Deldrimor.

And I hope the theme this time is either Norse or Aztec/Mayan.

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but in the time line in the NF manual it does say "Cantha begins trading with Tyria, Elona and the northern areas." Because of this I like the idea that the next chapter will involve the Mursaat at their homeland of Janthir, north of the Maguuma Jungle.

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

14 Jan 2007 at 03:37 - 89

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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

Hmm I doubt I'll buy unless it has some great PvE.

Same Here. They have to improve their PvE development a bit more.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

14 Jan 2007 at 04:20 - 90

If this is true, I'm kind of bummed out that Ch4 won't have a snowy/wintery feel to it (presumably).

I admittedly know very little about Greek environments...but wouldn't it be somewhat similar to the top-right part of the NF map, like iwth the gardens and such?

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

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14 Jan 2007 at 04:39 - 91

I think they are finally going to show us what happened to Gwen.
If they really said we should look for clues about the next chapter, thats it.
For those who went to Barbadous Shore cant possibly forget about that Preserved Red Iris Flower, reminding us about that old pre-searing quest wich you have to get one in order to Gwen follow you.
Here is the link to these itens.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Preserved_Red_Iris_Flower
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Red_Iris_Flower

Jormund

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Michigan

14 Jan 2007 at 04:53 - 92

Hmm I doubt I'll buy unless it has some great PvP. They have to improve their PvP development a bit more.

Haha I jest (sort of), I never really know whether or not I'll buy a GW chapter but I think the name Utopia is kind of blourgh. Although a few days ago I did guess Chapter 4 could have a setting of Downtown New York; we can only hope that is the case.

Malice Black

Site Legend

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14 Jan 2007 at 05:03 - 93

Just like in any industry a product is rarely released with the name it was given during the development process.

Brandon1107

Wilds Pathfinder

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14 Jan 2007 at 05:39 - 94

Not that this is true but its from Guild Wiki and that's a very good Guild Wars source, but here:

Galie Gray has hinted at the fact that campaign four may take place on a frigid continent.

North of Kryta and Shiverpeaks lays Deldrimor, land of the dwarves; the only FRIGID continent.

It hasn't been confirmed, but it is very likley we will see that the Guild Wars: Chapter 4 is on Deldrimor. Also if you go on GuildWiki and type in nations, Deldrimor is the only other nation that we haven't been to that is listed. I think Chapter 4 is on Deldrimor. =D No more Orr theories for me. Orr is dead. Maybe.

Nickhimself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Your face

True Gods Of War [True]

W/Mo

14 Jan 2007 at 05:52 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Slaya

I'd certaintly hope not. If I wanted to do that I would go play WoW.

Did you read the one update where they were talking about crafting / time wasting type skills being introduced into the game. I think they called them Life Skills or something like that.

Fishing, Cooking...stuff like that.

I like GW very much. Just hit KoBD the other night on my Warrior. But, i'll be the first to admit, if they don't do something within the next few chapters that will change how GW is played PvE-wise AT LEAST...they'll lose many customers.

Roderick Bravehart

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Trying to play Crysis on GLaDOS' mainframe.

Grenth's Rejects (GR)

14 Jan 2007 at 05:59 - 96

Hm. This is starting to sound more and more like an Ultima Online clone. Fishing? PK areas? Not So Fun Events? I saw Ultima's decline into obscurity. and I hope the 4th Chapter isn't the decline of GW.

unienaule

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

14 Jan 2007 at 06:36 - 97

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Originally Posted by Nickhimself

Did you read the one update where they were talking about crafting / time wasting type skills being introduced into the game. I think they called them Life Skills or something like that.

Fishing, Cooking...stuff like that.

I like GW very much. Just hit KoBD the other night on my Warrior. But, i'll be the first to admit, if they don't do something within the next few chapters that will change how GW is played PvE-wise AT LEAST...they'll lose many customers.

That wasn't an update, that was an interview from a foreign language place which may or may not have meant crafting skills. Some people think it was referring to the titles that actually do things now.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

14 Jan 2007 at 06:41 - 98

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Originally Posted by Alfrond

Personally, I think things like fishing would be kind of cool. Its always neat to have more things to do. However, since many people seem to dislike doing these "life skills" type things, I guess they should probably be optional.

this game would make its way to my all-time favorite game if it had fishing. I would never stop fishing in Guild Wars even if it was wasted time, fishing would BE AWSOME!!!!

EtherealByte

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

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R/Rt

14 Jan 2007 at 07:58 - 99

As for the setting, i think they should leave the current proffessions etc as is. What i mean by that is, every chapter they have to add core proff skills + faction/NF skillz and new proffession skills. Its time they gave our characters a rest and start anew. Maybe do a new GW set in a different timeline, maybe when Orr still wasn't destroyed, maybe the time of guild wars... or even a hundred years into the future from now. If they want to do it at current timeline, maybe (yah, too many maybe's) set it far North, away from current continent so they we not affected by Nightfall as tyria and cantha were. If the majority of the community still want to be able to play with old characters, let's build a time machine and get "timeported" to teh Guild Wars era :P I do agree with some of the above comments though. They really need to do something different this time or some of the older players will just lose interest in the long run. 2007 seems like a tough year for MMO's with vanguard, warhammer online, aion, 2moons (which is completely free), so ANet has to give us something extra to make us stay while keeping people away from those games.

I have a tendency to keep on typing once i start. Pretty sure most of you will go TL;DR

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Rt/Mo

14 Jan 2007 at 08:23 - 100

I think they should add life skills.. it's one of the few things that would keep me interested in the game. And don't say I should play WoW if I wanted to do that. I like Guild Wars.. I like the lore, I like the look... adding life skills would only imporve in that it would keep people who get bored easily more entertained between the chapters. Guild Wars Chapter 4 would have to add something to that effect or I think it will lose a lot of players who would claim "More of the same."

Right now I'm waiting to hear information about chapter 4, deciding on going to WoW with the new expansion, beta testing Vanguard, and playing around with City of Heroes... as it stands right now I could go in any direction.. just trying things out.

Plus there is already food in guild wars from the different chiefs so us being able to craft (cook) is possible. Plus it would make use of a lot of the worthless crap we get from enemies like the roots and so forth as most only have one collector.

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

14 Jan 2007 at 08:44 - 101

they already added something LIKE life skills, which are titles. the wisdom title that has better chance to salvage thing as example...

im looking forward maby to stop saving the world and build one? have same missions/quests RPG concept, but a story going towards BUILDING a home land (C'mon, isnbt about time after saving 3 destroyed lands?)

may i suggest Uthopia = building of New-Ascalon? >_<

PyrAnkh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

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14 Jan 2007 at 08:59 - 102

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I'm wondering where it's gonna base off of. What kind of people are you gonna play as?

But that sounds really really awesome...The Mursaat were awesome. Do you think the Seer will have a role to play at all?

Sure hope she doesnt, her voice made me turn off my speakers.
Anyways, im up for greek theme. Although if i think greek (ancient greek), i think speartrowers...and we just got those. Maybe a spear melee weapon? Oh wait, they said they wouldnt implement new classes. Bleh. I want to play a trojan horse!

Wtfpwn troje
Skill, 0 energy, about a year casting time, and can only be used once
You disguise yourself as a horse, go into the enemy guildhall and kill everything inside whilst the GL is asleep.

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

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Aussieland

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Me/E

14 Jan 2007 at 09:08 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon1107

Not that this is true but its from Guild Wiki and that's a very good Guild Wars source, but here:

Galie Gray has hinted at the fact that campaign four may take place on a frigid continent.

North of Kryta and Shiverpeaks lays Deldrimor, land of the dwarves; the only FRIGID continent.

It hasn't been confirmed, but it is very likley we will see that the Guild Wars: Chapter 4 is on Deldrimor. Also if you go on GuildWiki and type in nations, Deldrimor is the only other nation that we haven't been to that is listed. I think Chapter 4 is on Deldrimor. =D No more Orr theories for me. Orr is dead. Maybe.

frig·id (frĭj'ĭd)
adj.
1. Extremely cold
2. Lacking warmth of feeling
3. Stiff and formal in manner: a frigid refusal to a request
4. Persistently averse to sexual intercourse

Well going by dictionary meanings

1. Quite possible, however an entire continent being cold and snowy is bland. Had anough of all that in prophecies and wintersweek(s)

2. Mursaat structures, their movements, their...being seems pretty spot on with this description.

3. Once again, the only creatures (from my experience) that fit this description are the mursaat.

4. Lets not go there

But thats just more speculation

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

14 Jan 2007 at 15:11 - 104

I hope in mid-february we get some press release telling something about chapt4.

I cannot wait!
(Go Factions team Go!)

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

14 Jan 2007 at 15:29 - 105

Bzzt wrong, We have been to deldrimor. Most of the shiverpeaks come under deldrimor. Shiverpeaks are the name of the mountains, Deldrimor the name of the country. And yes we have been to Deldrimor, Its right after ascalon and ascension

And if you really think im wrong, The capital of deldrimor is Thunder head keep... Gosh i dont know where that is....

And For chapter four the Utopia can still mean alot of things but which i seriously doubt are the mursaat due to the lich's comments. Finnaly about Orr, Though i doubt that its a possibility there could be a chance that we have a new enemy messing up the timelines and the heroes are called to fix up the mess. What i really want though would be a chance to go to either the charr's homeland and kill charr And go further on and meet the giants.

Or all hell... ill settle for binky's spelling adventures

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

14 Jan 2007 at 16:29 - 106

I hope they add new weapons and skills for all classes, and maybe an auction house. A good example for the new weapons that I'm thinking of is maybe a polearm for Warrior, crossbow for Ranger, a fiber-wire for Assassins, and maybe reinforced blades on the bottom of a Dervish's robe that could cause cripple, but with certain attack skills you could hit higher. For casters, give us a chance to be battle casters and give us flails!

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

14 Jan 2007 at 16:29 - 107

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Originally Posted by grottoftl

for those thinking we'll be in Orr for the next chapter, you know that Orr is located within the prophecies map right? I don't think we'll ever go to Orr as a seperate chapter since it's located within a current campaign.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Orr

That logic is flawed. Part of Elona is in Prophesies and yet Elona got its own chapter.

I think the next chapter will lead to Orr but not start there. All the Orrians aren't dead but they're scattered all over. The Orrians were obviously important to the Gods. Why else would they dwell in the city of Arah while they shaped Tyria? The end of Orr was pretty darned sudden. Just like Shiro Tagachi's betrayal of Emperor Angsiyan. Could Vizier Khilbron have been manipulated by one of Abbadon's creatures, like Shiro?

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

14 Jan 2007 at 16:35 - 108

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Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens

That logic is flawed. Part of Elona is in Prophesies and yet Elona got its own chapter.

I think the next chapter will lead to Orr but not start there. All the Orrians aren't dead but they're scattered all over. The Orrians were obviously important to the Gods. Why else would they dwell in the city of Arah while they shaped Tyria? The end of Orr was pretty darned sudden. Just like Shiro Tagachi's betrayal of Emperor Angsiyan. Could Vizier Khilbron have been manipulated by one of Abbadon's creatures, like Shiro?

He had been tricked by Abaddon into using the forbidden scrolls. Abaddon basically sent the Vizier a false premonition or something. But basically Abaddon despised the gods so much that he destroyed their former home.

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

14 Jan 2007 at 16:43 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens

That logic is flawed. Part of Elona is in Prophesies and yet Elona got its own chapter.

I think the next chapter will lead to Orr but not start there. All the Orrians aren't dead but they're scattered all over. The Orrians were obviously important to the Gods. Why else would they dwell in the city of Arah while they shaped Tyria? The end of Orr was pretty darned sudden. Just like Shiro Tagachi's betrayal of Emperor Angsiyan. Could Vizier Khilbron have been manipulated by one of Abbadon's creatures, like Shiro?

That part of the lore was concrete and well-crafted, as it had to do with the Charr. Trying to integrate it into their current "everything is linked together!" storyline (not integrate the storyline into it as they did with the Titans) would be a strenuous task and would probably end up looking shoddy and patchy like the whole Factions storyline was.

Not to mention they would have to somehow explain why and how Orr and it's people wern't utterly destroyed in direct contradiction to the first chapter lore.

Khift

Lion's Arch Merchant

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Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]

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14 Jan 2007 at 17:18 - 110

I'd put money on it that Utopia has nothing to do with the first three expansions.

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

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Warrior Nation[WN]

14 Jan 2007 at 17:39 - 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

That part of the lore was concrete and well-crafted, as it had to do with the Charr. Trying to integrate it into their current "everything is linked together!" storyline (not integrate the storyline into it as they did with the Titans) would be a strenuous task and would probably end up looking shoddy and patchy like the whole Factions storyline was.

Not to mention they would have to somehow explain why and how Orr and it's people wern't utterly destroyed in direct contradiction to the first chapter lore.

We know not everyone from Orr died. Most of the continent and its people were destroyed but obviously some survived and have been featured in the storyline. The story could be that you've heard a rumor that someone is plotting to raise the ruins of Arah from the Sea of Sorrows and [insert a crime here] it and you're goal is to stop them.

Josh

Desert Nomad

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D/Mo

14 Jan 2007 at 17:41 - 112

Khift you trying to say the 2nd and 3rd related to the first? Lol...

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

14 Jan 2007 at 18:23 - 113

-- Spoiliers---
Umm @ Josh though im not sure what your implying i think your trying to say that the 2nd and 3rd chapter did not connect with chapter one which is completely wrong. The first 3 chapters ARE connected, The storylines eventually tied into it all happening due to Abaddon. Abaddon used Shiro and the lich to do his bidding.

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

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[cola]

14 Jan 2007 at 18:36 - 114

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Originally Posted by TiNkLeR

GO GO Factions Team! Proof that you don't suck so bad!

argh...i cant believe people like these are still around. Theres nothing bad about the factions team.

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

14 Jan 2007 at 19:42 - 115

The word Utopia interests me, I dream of a 'game long' pre-searing. People would be so calm and relaxed, they wouldn't spam chat channels with junk, and would have lovely conversations instead. Less mobs and more flower picking I say.

Kryth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ascalon

Venatori Solaris

14 Jan 2007 at 20:04 - 116

Quote:

The word Utopia interests me, I dream of a 'game long' pre-searing. People would be so calm and relaxed, they wouldn't spam chat channels with junk, and would have lovely conversations instead. Less mobs and more flower picking I say.

You mean A.Net including an age field on your account information and seperating people 20+ from the rest with "Mature Districts"

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

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P/

14 Jan 2007 at 20:08 - 117

What if your all going in the wrong direction? What if it goes back in time.

If you look at this page on GWiki about Bahltek( http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bahltek ) He says something about a ghost ship and about how you shoulod swim out to it going and investigate it. What if this is a ghost ship of Orr. What if this is something to do with that weird black mark on peoples maps, near Istan after finishing Nightfall.

Maybe these ships appear all opver the world and are 'potals' to when Orr was at its high point and blessed by the Gods. Surely a place like that would be a Utopia. Maybe you have to stop it being destroyed?

As they are blessed by the gods maybe we will get new attribute point lines rather than new proffesions?

Just my take on everthing.

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

14 Jan 2007 at 20:45 - 118

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi

argh...i cant believe people like these are still around. Theres nothing bad about the factions team.

Especially since in the credits for Factions and Nightfall the teams are about 75% the same.

Skull of Eve

Ascalonian Squire

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Shithole

CM

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14 Jan 2007 at 20:50 - 119

WHOPIII !!!

hope there WILL be more new profesions than only 2...
rooting for some spell pros

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

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In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

14 Jan 2007 at 20:59 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khift

I'd put money on it that Utopia has nothing to do with the first three expansions.

As far as campaigns, I'm betting Utopia is going to have nothing to do with Abaddon...something new is going to be bothering the world...of guild wars.

I'm thinking this game is going sotra like Star Wars you know? First 3 set down the standard and ideas, and the last 3 really got into more lore and were better.

Then again...Star Wars was backwards...so maybe Guild Wars is backwards in lore to...maybe Anet started with 4, 5, 6 and the next 3 are going to be 1, 2, 3 in the lore and storyline....who know?

Either way...I just wish Anet would come out of the closet and tell everyone when this game is coming back, no point waiting. Might as well tell us and get us interested. Then again, I'm not Anet.