Guild Wars: Utopia

Lord-UWR

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

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I need to remind you that the Atlantis post on Wikipedia was done by me, taking it from THIS forum and the GWOnline.net Forum. It was originally presented two years ago by me and a good friend of mine.

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

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This is for Lord-UWR. I truly do not go around flaming everyone within gurru. I just ate my point and if it sounds like I am flaming people then they are taking it the wrong way. Most players apparently have not read up on the Guld Wars lore and do need to look back at it like I have. Not sure if it is within this post but I have already put the definition of Utopia, and the possibility of the next chapter beign like Shangrila. Almost all of what the other posts in here I have been quoteing straight from the Lore that is available for everyone to read on the main Guild Wars website and even here on Guru in another section. I truly think that you seem to be going after me ue to your inabiity to read an entire post (I am even guilty of hat oon occasion). If the admins here think that I am out of line let them contact Inde and I will do as he wishes.

Mega Mouse

My Sweet Revenga

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dameros
Guild Wars: Utopia?? Ugh, makes me think of dinosaurs.
Funny. This makes me think more along the lines of Syndicate Wars. So in chapter 4 do we get Gauss Guns?

TaiClaw

TaiClaw

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

AUS

A/R

I think we can be assured that Chapter 4 will bring us a whole new plot to think about, and will try to stay away from previous chapters as much as possible.

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

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Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

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Guys, We are totally forgetting about "The Northern Areas". I dont believe Orr is in "The Northern Areas".

KingKryton

KingKryton

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Join Date: Jun 2005

New Zealand

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
Guys, We are totally forgetting about "The Northern Areas". I dont believe Orr is in "The Northern Areas".
isnt this where orr used to be?

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I would say they are referring to north of Ascalon somwhere.My ultimate GW Utopia is lots of gold and less monsters ahh life would be great.

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

At King Kryton, Yes thats where it was and the more i read the more i doubt we will go to Orr. I so hope its Northern areas but dont get your hopes up guys.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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im hopin for northern too. hoorah for the shiverpeaks!

natuxatu

natuxatu

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

Orr fell into the Realm of Torment you can see it in the ruins so we've already been there.

-.-

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by natuxatu
Orr fell into the Realm of Torment you can see it in the ruins so we've already been there.
What?

Orr fell into the Ocean.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by natuxatu
Orr fell into the Realm of Torment you can see it in the ruins so we've already been there.
wow 100% wrong

gg

Wilhelm

Wilhelm

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Canada eh

looking for mature, luxon pvx guild

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingKryton
isnt this where orr used to be?

I thought that was where Orr was/is as well.


Anyways, Utopia....doesn't sound too bad imo. Just by the name of it, hints at nice landscapes, and what not.

Hopefully it stays nice landscapes, and doesn't turn black and turdfilled at the end like the last 3 games.

fRag_Doll

fRag_Doll

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

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OK, so here's Tyria as we know it. (Sort of, all we know about Cantha's location is "South".)
Whatever the next chapter is called, I hope it's set somewhere that will fill in one of the gaps.

*Edit* - Credit to TC Fish for the source maps.

Symeon

Symeon

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Join Date: Jul 2005

I wonder what lies east of Ascalon/Crystal Desert and north of Vabbi? I can't remember anyone discussing that before. The majority seem to be talking about west/north of Tyria (which are the more probable locations for C4, but still). We also know that there are many hidden reefs/islands between Elona and Cantha, navigated by the Corsairs and the Luxons.

East or south of Cantha is also something to think about... and then there's the possibility of a 'new world' chapter across the 'unending ocean'... but I won't deny that the most convincing idea for C4 is the Mursaat homeland, west of the Maguuma. A northern continent comes second place for me, since I asked Gaile whether there was anything north of Tyria and she had never heard of it before. That could just be a 'I know nothing' cover-up, though .

Makkert

Makkert

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Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

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Considering the extremely high cheesyness factor of the word 'utopia', and also implying that every chapter after chapter 4 would be lesser (utopia being the ultimate), I'm not willing to bet money on this discovery to be the final name of chapter 4.

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Realm of torment is shaped by Abaddon, There is a nightfallen Jahai which is abaddons version of the real Jahai in Kourna. so saying that Orr Became the realm of torment is wrong.

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegeroth
I have a picture for you, took place on the Thunderhead Keep Mission a week or so ago...

I believe its something close to what you want



Yes, it was unfortunately hostile

You longer need to be an Ele to deal massive damage!
All you need is a Thunderclap Bear!
nice build







Giga Strike

Giga Strike

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Join Date: Aug 2006

stranded in vabbi this time

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we can't consider the information from wikipedia to be official. wikipedia is so easy to hack that its not even considered hacking. that page could have been made by anyone and has no worth untill an official source has confirmed it.

Wilhelm

Wilhelm

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Canada eh

looking for mature, luxon pvx guild

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
nice build







Wonder what Dunkoro and Tahkoro are running

Bankai

Bankai

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giga Strike
we can't consider the information from wikipedia to be official. wikipedia is so easy to hack that its not even considered hacking. that page could have been made by anyone and has no worth untill an official source has confirmed it.
Hacking!=editing.

Besides, the author of the wiki page already posted here.

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

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Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

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For frag Doll: love how you put the maps together. Heck I never even thought of doing that. Good job this clears up a few questions that even I was wondering on. In agreement on the possible placement of Cantha, not sure exactly where it will fit in in the future.

Mega Mouse

Andy_M

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

King Arthur: look over there, it's the castle Utopia !


(song)

King Arthur: lets not go there, 'tis a silly name.

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Guys, lets not forget that chapters 1-3 have had a totally different storyline.. chap. 1-3 storyline ended at nightfall, new storyline = chapter 4

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ork Pride
Guys, lets not forget that chapters 1-3 have had a totally different storyline.. chap. 1-3 storyline ended at nightfall, new storyline = chapter 4
While it may be a new storyline, its still going to be the same world, and with that, references to that world in Ch4.

Gaile already said there are clues in the manuel and in the game.

We have that northern lands thing...so my best guess its the mursaat, as mentioned in the thread, nothing else is more obvious.

So while it will be a new storyline line, there are many references to Utopia in the game, and the manuel. Nothing else makes more sense, why else would Anet and NCsoft get new domain names? The only reasons they ever had is for games in the past, and they REALLY value their fan base, so why make a forum?

My guess is this:
Northern Lands, as in North of Tyria
Mursaat, and many references in this thread
Utopia, as mentioned by San De Alessio... (thats his name right? )


And that rest is total speculation... we don't have anything to go off of besides new professions (arcanist, magician, etc), and I seriously don't think there will be any....maybe Norse Gunners or something? Like the intro to WoW with that cool gun...... That would definatly fit into the plot, and dwarfs+ guns= cool....or the end of gw....

The plot, professions, and everything else besides these are speculation.... I mean how much more evidence is there? Even if you looked all around, all we have are those 3 solid facts, which are good. I guess until Anet announces something, we have nothing else to go off of? Anyways, its good enough for me, I'm sure in a couple weeks it will be announced...and I will wet my pants in enjoyment.

I think we have enough, lets all go take a nap...

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

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Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

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Sorry to burst your bubble Silly Warrior but it couldn't be aboutn the Mursaat as their homeland is in the Maguuma Jungle west of the Ullen river. This is taken directly from the Guikd Wars lore. I do agree that as far as a northern land that is more than possible as there are numerous hints in-game and even in the Nightfall manual. As far as the inhabitants of the northern lands that is still up in the air for now so even I am in the dark about that. I still keep looking though for any info that I can find. The name of the guy you mention is Saul De-Alessio.

Mega Mouse

On the Mursaat, it would be nice to see them not as enemies but as allies though.

Bankai

Bankai

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaMouse
Sorry to burst your bubble Silly Warrior but it couldn't be aboutn the Mursaat as their homeland is in the Maguuma Jungle west of the Ullen river. This is taken directly from the Guikd Wars lore. I do agree that as far as a northern land that is more than possible as there are numerous hints in-game and even in the Nightfall manual. As far as the inhabitants of the northern lands that is still up in the air for now so even I am in the dark about that. I still keep looking though for any info that I can find. The name of the guy you mention is Saul De-Alessio.

Mega Mouse

On the Mursaat, it would be nice to see them not as enemies but as allies though.
It doesn't suddenly render the Mursaat idea impossible.

Also, some guys noticed some time ago the home-land of the corsairs was also mentioned in the manual.

Markaedw

Markaedw

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaMouse
On the Mursaat, it would be nice to see them not as enemies but as allies though.
That might be hard, releasing the titian was supposed to wipe out the mursaat.

Cassandra Tanacel

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Wolf Brotherhood

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaMouse
On the Mursaat, it would be nice to see them not as enemies but as allies though.

Didn't the Mursaat encourage the murdering of innocents on the bloodstones? Even if it keeps the Titans out surely that makes em evil


Wouldn't have thought we'd have em as allies however??

Thy Shadow Wolf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Erie, PA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra Tanacel
Didn't the Mursaat encourage the murdering of innocents on the bloodstones? Even if it keeps the Titans out surely that makes em evil


Wouldn't have thought we'd have em as allies however??
How many other cultures have sacrificed people in the past to keep the wrath of some god or some thing kept away for however long a cycle was? Did that make them "evil"?

But anyway, I think that the Mursaat would be quite awesome allies, and their culture could provide quite the interesting lore. I don't know.... as awesome as the Mursaat are I do have some reservations and don't want to get too hyped for a total letdown

(And to heck with the Junundu, I want to ride on these crazy Mursaat Speedboats in Utopia's version of the desolation [If there is one.... but even a minigame with these things would be sweet])

Aegeroth

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
nice build
*sniff*
Sarcasm... yes i smell it from a posts away!

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilhelm
I wonder what Dunkoro and Tahkora(<-- Spelling!) are running
Obviously builds more powerful than mine.

Yes, a monk who lacks any potent elites by THK is obviously extremely brave.
Im too poor to go out and buy Cap Sigs :P
Don't worry though, i got Word o' Healing on him the day after.

And seriously, that THK run wasnt bad at all. PvE Enemies dont understand what Healing Seed and Vigorous Spirit can do in unison at level 16 Healing Prayers. Especially on an Assassin who hits quickly.

Arkantos

Arkantos

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Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra Tanacel
Didn't the Mursaat encourage the murdering of innocents on the bloodstones? Even if it keeps the Titans out surely that makes em evil
Not necessarily. If they chose not to sacrifice them and the titans were unleashed, not only would the mursaat be killed, but most likely all of the world. Put yourself in that position, it's either a couple of innocent or the whole world.

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Not necessarily. If they chose not to sacrifice them and the titans were unleashed, not only would the mursaat be killed, but most likely all of the world. Put yourself in that position, it's either a couple of innocent or the whole world.
Couldnt they have just rounded up the Rascals like... the Charr and...
and...
the Charr... and the Stone Summit!

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Yeh, i reckon should we have understod the intentions of the Mursaat our view on the Mantle and Mursaat would have been totally different. Possibly an alliance may have emerged, and now it could with "Utopia".

However. The Titans being so powerful may simply be a threat to the Mursaat and thus they sealed them up to be Supreme.

You choose.

creelie

creelie

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Alberta

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Mo/

Are there any other guildwars._________ domain names registered that people know about, that didn't become chapter names?

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

I'm sorry, I haven't see any concrete evidence as to how it will be called Utopia.

guildwarsutopia.com may be registered, but if it was by NC Soft or Arena Net, why would they allow alot of links to buy gold on it? Something they are against?

I'm assuming then that the Wiki was created in light of this domain. Again, hardly evidence.

I wouldn't be surpised if it's just going to be a new fansite (now with alot of publicity).

Neven15

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Holly Warriors

R/Mo

Registrant:
NCsoft, Inc. - Austin
6801 N Capital of TX Hwy.
Bldg. 1, Ste. 102
Austin, TX 78731
US

Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: GUILDWARSUTOPIA.COM
Created on: 14-JUN-06
Expires on: 14-JUN-08
Last Updated on: 09-JAN-07

Administrative, Technical Contact:
Graf, Christopher [email protected]
NCsoft, Inc. - Austin
6801 N Capital of TX Hwy.
Bldg. 1, Ste. 102
Austin, TX 78731
US
512-498-4000

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

Ah, how did you get that info?

The should put up a simple cover page, to get rid of all those links.

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Now compare what Neven posted to this

Registrant:
NCsoft, Inc. - Austin
6801 N Capital of TX Hwy.
Bldg. 1, Ste. 102
Austin, TX 78731
US

Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: GUILDWARSNIGHTFALL.COM
Created on: 06-APR-06
Expires on: 06-APR-08
Last Updated on: 09-JAN-07

Administrative, Technical Contact:
Graf, Christopher [email protected]
NCsoft, Inc. - Austin
6801 N Capital of TX Hwy.
Bldg. 1, Ste. 102
Austin, TX 78731
US
512-498-4000

lightblade

lightblade

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Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by tre_peter
...
guildwarsutopia.com may be registered, but if it was by NC Soft or Arena Net, why would they allow alot of links to buy gold on it? Something they are against?
The gold selling ad is provided by google. It is in no way connected to NCsoft or ArenaNet.

Neven15

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Holly Warriors

R/Mo

ye this is 100% NCsofts domain & they wouldnt
call it Utopia for no good reason !