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The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

22 Jan 2007 at 01:23 - 41

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Originally Posted by SodOffShotgun

You completely missed the point. I dont care about crystallines. This isnt just about crystallines. I was just saying that people who were complaining that there is less grind and therefore the game is boring now are playing the wrong game because this game is afterall supposed to be about less grind!

People really should stop automatically assuming that people who don't like grind want all the "high end" stuff.

Crystallines = Rarest Sword

Crystallines = Lots of gold to buy them

Lots of gold needed to buy a crystalline = more work to earn gold

more work = sometimes grind or in most peoples cases grind

grind = something to work for, sense of achievement

no grind once everything else in game done = boring game

I could buy a r8 15>50 crystalline swords quite easily, at this point in the game when I could buy the rarest sword possible I got bored as there was nothing to work for.

With items worth less and less it means it is easier to obtain even the rarest items. Not rocket science is it?

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

22 Jan 2007 at 01:27 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Crystallines = Rarest Sword

Crystallines = Lots of gold to buy them

Lots of gold needed to buy a crystalline = more work to earn gold

more work = sometimes grind or in most peoples cases grind

grind = something to work for, sense of achievement

no grind once everything else in game done = boring game

I could buy a r8 15>50 crystalline swords quite easily, at this point in the game when I could buy the rarest sword possible I got bored as there was nothing to work for.

With items worth less and less it means it is easier to obtain even the rarest items. Not rocket science is it?

I couldn't agree more with everything you said. /applause

On another note, least the new weapons added will keep some people interested

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

22 Jan 2007 at 01:30 - 43

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People really should stop automatically assuming that people who don't like grind want all the "high end" stuff.

The game isn't advertised as less grind, period - just less grind to be on a level playing field. Unlike some other RPGs where you spend x hours just getting one piece of equipment with max stats, in Guild Wars you can get max equipment and max level easily.

Inscribable crystallines don't affect the casual/average player. All it does is drive crystalline prices down to midrange, which the casual player still isn't going to afford. People who want shiny stuff and farm day after day or powertrade - who aren't casual players - now can afford crystallines easier, that's it.

SodOffShotgun

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

22 Jan 2007 at 01:32 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

Crystallines = Rarest Sword

Crystallines = Lots of gold to buy them

Lots of gold needed to buy a crystalline = more work to earn gold

more work = sometimes grind or in most peoples cases grind

grind = something to work for, sense of achievement

You can have your grind for something that is useless. I dont really care. But once again, you people are complaining about less grind in a game where less grind is the philosophy.

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

no grind once everything else in game done = boring game

If you've done "everything" in the game then you've done everything, so how is it surprising that anyone can start getting bored? And that's where new content comes in. And I really dont see how grind makes things "unboring"

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

I could buy a r8 15>50 crystalline swords quite easily, at this point in the game when I could buy the rarest sword possible I got bored as there was nothing to work for.

So you're already bored and can get the sword easily. So how does this change affect you now?

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

With items worth less and less it means it is easier to obtain even the rarest items. Not rocket science is it?

Rocket science? No. But why do you care so much about how easy it is for others to get stuff? You yourself just said you can get the rarest sword in the game easily already, so how would this affect you?

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Originally Posted by Savio

Inscribable crystallines don't affect the casual/average player. All it does is drive crystalline prices down to midrange, which the casual player still isn't going to afford. People who want shiny stuff and farm day after day or powertrade - who aren't casual players - now can afford crystallines easier, that's it.

So how is that a problem? As I said before, I don't care about crystallines and this change doesnt affect me at all. But I dont understand why it's such a big deal that others can get them more easily now. I didnt want to believe it was just an ego and bragging rights thing but that's what it's starting to look like here.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

22 Jan 2007 at 01:38 - 45

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Umm then why did you list your reason as that it was free?

I was generalising about why some people choose to play this game over other better games.

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

22 Jan 2007 at 01:39 - 46

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Originally Posted by SodOffShotgun

You can have your grind for something that is useless. I dont really care. But once again, you people are complaining about less grind in a game where less grind is the philosophy.

If you've done "everything" in the game then you've done everything, so how is it surprising that anyone can start getting bored? And that's where new content comes in. And I really dont see how grind makes things "unboring"

Well umm good for you. Not sure what the point was.

Rocket science? No. But why do you care so much about how easy it is for others to get stuff? You yourself just said you can get the rarest sword in the game easily already, so how would this affect you?

LES GRIND ISNT THE PHILOSOPHY. AS SAVIO STATED ITS ABOUT BEING ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

MAYBE BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTED AND PVPED TOO MUCH AND INSTEAD WANT TO COLLECT THE NICE ITEMS AVAILABLE IN IT. I CAN SEEK ENJOYMENT FROM DOING IT, LIKE SAY STAMP COLLECTING. WHAT I DONT NEED IS PEOPLE SAYING, "COLLECTING ITEMS IS NOT FUN OR SOMETHING GOOD TO DO," AS I ENJOY IT.

THE "I CAN AFFORD ANYTHING I LIKE" POINT WAS IF ITEMS ARE WORTH LESS AND LESS SO PEOPLE CAN BUY MORE AND MORE IT WILL GET BORING FOR THEM. I GOT BORED WHEN I COULD BUY ANYTHING WITH THE GOLD I HAD. WITH GOLD BUYING MORE AND MORE ITEMS AS THEY ARE WORTH LESS THEY TOO LIKE ME WILL GET BORED ONCE THEY CAN OBTAIN ITEMS EASIER AND QUICKER THAN EVER BEFORE. AGAIN I USE THE EXMAPLE OF STANP COLLECTING, IT WOULD BE BORING IF YOU COULD BUY ANY STAMP NO MATTER HOW RARE IT WAS FOR LITTLE MONEY.

For me I always buy the best, whether it is in a game or real life. I strive to be the best and enjoy working towards nice things whether they be high end clothes or high end weapons in a game. What sucks though is to have that exclustivity destroyed due to the whining masses. I am motivated by money and I am not ashamed to admit that. And i care about gw still because I know it will ruin a game for many people.

SodOffShotgun

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

22 Jan 2007 at 01:40 - 47

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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer

LES GRIND ISNT THE PHILOSOPHY. AS SAVIO STATED ITS ABOUT BEING ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

MAYBE BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTED AND PVPED TOO MUCH AND INSTEAD WANT TO COLLECT THE NICE ITEMS AVAILABLE IN IT. I CAN SEEK ENJOYMENT FROM DOING IT, LIKE SAY STAMP COLLECTING. WHAT I DONT NEED IS PEOPLE SAYING, "COLLECTING ITEMS IS NOT FUN OR SOMETHING GOOD TO DO," AS I ENJOY IT.

THE "I CAN AFFORD ANYTHING I LIKE" POINT WAS IF ITEMS ARE WORTH LESS AND LESS SO PEOPLE CAN BUY MORE AND MORE IT WILL GET BORING FOR THEM. I GOT BORED WHEN I COULD BUY ANYTHING WITH THE GOLD I HAD. WITH GOLD BUYING MORE AND MORE ITEMS AS THEY ARE WORTH LESS THEY TOO LIKE ME WILL GET BORED ONCE THEY CAN OBTAIN ITEMS EASIER AND QUICKER THAN EVER BEFORE. AGAIN I USE THE EXMAPLE OF STANP COLLECTING, IT WOULD BE BORING IF YOU COULD BUY ANY STAMP NO MATTER HOW RARE IT WAS FOR LITTLE MONEY.

Wow calm down. Anyway, I'm done stating my opinions because obviously it's a heated topic. Good luck with the grind and boredom thing.

tweedledumb

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

22 Jan 2007 at 01:44 - 48

Some items should be very, very rare and special. I'm still not sure how making crystalines inscribable is going to wreck them though?

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

22 Jan 2007 at 02:11 - 49

It's the principle..I couldn't care less about the skin itself (who actually likes the skin?) its the fact Anet are going out of their way to ruin the only thing for some of us have to do after we finished questing.

I don't like the titles rubbish
I don't PvP
I'm not interested in completeing every single quest for every single proffesion

tweedledumb

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

22 Jan 2007 at 02:18 - 50

I think I see what you're saying... "Why bother striving for perfect if you can just manufacture perfect" Am I right?

Kind of like I used to get excited when I saw a gold hit the ground and crossed my fingers while I.D.ing it back in Prophecies, but couldn't care less now. Ya, that particular sense of luck and/or accomplishment is long long gone.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

22 Jan 2007 at 02:27 - 51

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Originally Posted by tweedledumb

I think I see what you're saying... "Why bother striving for perfect if you can just manufacture perfect" Am I right?

Kind of like I used to get excited when I saw a gold hit the ground and crossed my fingers while I.D.ing it back in Prophecies, but couldn't care less now. Ya, that particular sense of luck and/or accomplishment is long long gone.

Exactly my point. There is nothing to strive for now.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

22 Jan 2007 at 02:28 - 52

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

Yeah, how dare they keep making the game more and more accessible to casual players. How dare they!

Crystallines aren't for casual players, just like FoW armor isn't for casual players.

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

22 Jan 2007 at 02:32 - 53

Hehe, this inscribable crystalline shiz is EXACTLY the reason why I didn't buy one with all the cash I have. I saw it coming, I know a lot of other players did too, and it kind of makes me chuckle to see what this game has come down to.

PvE=Dead

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

22 Jan 2007 at 02:38 - 54

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Crystallines aren't for casual players, just like FoW armor isn't for casual players.

For some reason people dont complain as much about FOW armor as they do expensive items... Same principle though.

For me PVP died when 8 man ha disappeared. PVE died when Prophecies got played to death and Factions sucked majorly.

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

22 Jan 2007 at 03:42 - 55

Good thing they are thinking about brining back 8v8 Herb.

I am sick and tired of the watering down of rare.

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

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22 Jan 2007 at 03:45 - 56

crystallines sucked,

if you want to buy a insanely priced swords with actually good skins, go for elementals and colossal scimitars

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

22 Jan 2007 at 03:45 - 57

^That is not the point. Its all about the rarity.

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

22 Jan 2007 at 04:00 - 58

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Originally Posted by tweedledumb

This is where it becomes a matter of taste. Elemental swords are four kinds of ugly.

yes everyone has an opinion if you dont like it good for you, some people do infact like the look of elementals and crystallines so deal with it.

I think its good more casual players can now get crystallines, with the purples from kilroy chests and now inscribible ones from hoh:P what fun is a game where you have to farm endless hours just to get your favorite skin?

tweedledumb

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

22 Jan 2007 at 04:16 - 59

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what fun is a game where you have to farm endless hours just to get your favorite skin?

A solution presents itself!

Anet needs to offer a second version of guild wars, one which will be played on its own servers. It will offer codes which will give a player absolutely anything their heart desires with a single keystroke.

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

22 Jan 2007 at 04:19 - 60

If you want to have anything at a keystroke, go get WOW and DL one of the many hacks available. No hacks for Guild Wars so far

Oofus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Cold Hard [CASH]

22 Jan 2007 at 04:21 - 61

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Originally Posted by SodOffShotgun

Maybe you both missed the part where the game promotes itself as less grind. Complaining about the game because it has less and less grind when that's the whole philosophy of the game is making it obvious that you're playing the wrong game for your playstyle.

I have 3 words for you; "Armbrace of Truth" ....if that's not grind then I don't know what is, and all for something that anyone can get.

Bottom line here is this; people who collect art don't spend millions on a Van Gogh because they like the way it looks, they do so for its rarity and collectible value. If anyone could get one then nobody would want one.

My oppinion as a collector:

Rare skin = moderately expensive
Rare skin with good INHERENT damage mod = very expensive and highly wanted
Rare skin with good INHERENT damage mod and low req = extremely expensive and even more wanted
Rare skin with inscription slot = lame and not bought buy collectors, and unlike non-inscribable rare skins will drop in value to next to nothing very quickly when their novelty wears off becasue ALL of them are perfect.

ANet please stop taking away from the collectors, "casual gamers" allready have everything they could possibly need.

/waits for ANet to "fix" wands next

By the way when do I get my free rank 12 for sitting on my but doing nothing?

.

SodOffShotgun

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

22 Jan 2007 at 04:27 - 62

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Originally Posted by Oofus

I have 3 words for you; "Armbrace of Truth" ....if that's not grind then I don't know what is, and all for something that anyone can get.

Bottom line here is this; people who collect art don't spend millions on a Van Gogh because they like the way it looks, they do so for its rarity and collectible value. If anyone could get one then nobody would want one.

My oppinion as a collector:

Rare skin = moderately expensive
Rare skin with good INHERENT damage mod = very expensive and highly wanted
Rare skin with good INHERENT damage mod and low req = extremely expensive and even more wanted
Rare skin with inscription slot = lame and not bought buy collectors, and unlike non-inscribable rare skins will drop in value to next to nothing very quickly when their novelty wears off becasue ALL of them are perfect.

ANet please stop taking away from the collectors, "casual gamers" allready have everything they could possibly need.

/waits for ANet to "fix" wands next

By the way when do I get my free rank 12 for sitting on my but doing nothing?

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So what exactly are the people complaining about the lack of grind complaining about then? Your post didnt disprove my point that people are complaining for nothing for the wrong reasons.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

22 Jan 2007 at 04:28 - 63

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Originally Posted by Oofus

Bottom line here is this; people who collect art don't spend millions on a Van Gogh because they like the way it looks, they do so for its rarity and collectible value. If anyone could get one then nobody would want one.

Um...i dont know about that....I would think people would buy a Van Gogh not because its rare, but because its by Van Gogh. Van Gogh was awesome :P

It wouldnt matter how many Van Goghs there were, its a Van Gogh and thats enough to give it a high value.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

22 Jan 2007 at 04:28 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oofus

My oppinion as a collector:

Rare skin = moderately expensive
Rare skin with good INHERENT damage mod = very expensive and highly wanted
Rare skin with good INHERENT damage mod and low req = extremely expensive and even more wanted
Rare skin with inscription slot = lame and not bought buy collectors, and unlike non-inscribable rare skins will drop in value to next to nothing very quickly when their novelty wears off becasue ALL of them are perfect.

Then as a "collector" spend your millions on the non-inscribable version? Let the casual players get their inscribable versions you deem worthless. >.>

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

22 Jan 2007 at 04:33 - 65

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Originally Posted by tweedledumb

A solution presents itself!

Anet needs to offer a second version of guild wars, one which will be played on its own servers. It will offer codes which will give a player absolutely anything their heart desires with a single keystroke.

no need to be a complete jackass. Where did I ever mention that in my response.
needless to say if they were a lil easier to get... why do you think people ebay gold online? for the hell of it?

Oofus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Cold Hard [CASH]

22 Jan 2007 at 04:34 - 66

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Originally Posted by SodOffShotgun

So what exactly are the people complaining about the lack of grind complaining about then? Your post didnt disprove my point that people are complaining for nothing for the wrong reasons.

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Um...i dont know about that....I would think people would buy a Van Gogh not because its rare, but because its by Van Gogh. Van Gogh was awesome :P

It wouldnt matter how many Van Goghs there were, its a Van Gogh and thats enough to give it a high value.

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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

Then as a "collector" spend your millions on the non-inscribable version? Let the casual players get their inscribable versions you deem worthless. >.>

^ if you don't get it by now then you never will. I'm done.

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tweedledumb

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

22 Jan 2007 at 04:37 - 67

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

no need to be a complete jackass. Where did I ever mention that in my response.
needless to say if they were a lil easier to get... why do you think people ebay gold online? for the hell of it?

Sorry about that...

I imagine that they ebay because they're lazy, impatient, or a combination of both...

Then again, maybe they see some sense in spending 1 hour of real labor vs. hours of virtual labor.

I'm confused now.

SodOffShotgun

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

22 Jan 2007 at 04:39 - 68

For those who keep saying that we just "want everything for doing nothing" just stop. That's idiotic and a stupid exaggeration and you know it.

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

22 Jan 2007 at 04:39 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweedledumb

A solution presents itself!

Anet needs to offer a second version of guild wars, one which will be played on its own servers. It will offer codes which will give a player absolutely anything their heart desires with a single keystroke.

They already have it, it's called Guild wars 2007

@Herb; Don't let the people who can't understand why collectors enjoy collecting work you into an all caps frenzy

It is obvious that they can't and never will understand just as they couldn't understand when we were trying to tell them what inscriptions would do before they implemented them.
Hell even some of the whiners in that 90+ page thread said they could at least leave crystallines out of their "gimme everything I want" rant.

*taps foot waiting for Hellgate;London*

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

22 Jan 2007 at 04:47 - 70

GfingG Anet.

Just when I thought Anet couldn't sabotage the game anymore than they had. I think secretly they look for ways to get us to play wow.

Someone please explain to me why in the name of God would they make the rarest item into a blazing wing wand. Gold Crystallines ONLY come from HOH for a damn reason why in the hell would they make them inscription items. Sorry if this seems over the top but for Christs sake how stupid are they in Anetland.

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

22 Jan 2007 at 05:07 - 71

I'm sorry, but when did this game ever advertise itself as "Economy Wars."

Who cares.

Something I learned from working in the food industry. You want to have the most employees and the best employees working during the peak periods, to better service the majority of your customers. That doesn't mean during off-peaks you hand out crap service, but that it maybe wasn't as good as it could be. Yeah, you're going to get more complaints during off-peaks, but thats to be expected.

I see ANet doing the same thing, the majority of Guild Wars players cannot buy a Crystalline, in fact, the majority of them have probably never actually seen one in-game. So why shouldn't they make this item less rare? What makes it more special than any other sword? Really they should just get rid of rares altogether, its a stupid idea thats got stuck into every RPG for some reason, but thats a whole nother topic.

Face it, you're the minority, and ANet doesn't really care how much you cry about it. They're going to cater to the majority, and thats us poor people who have never even seen a Crystalline.

So, heres to more inscribable rare drops, and to that new green crystalline sword in the next GW chapter.

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

22 Jan 2007 at 05:14 - 72

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Originally Posted by Vilaptca

So, heres to more inscribable rare drops, and to that new green crystalline sword in the next GW chapter.

I loled irl. Mainly because I really do see it happening. Its all good though I got mine already.

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

22 Jan 2007 at 05:17 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilaptca

I'm sorry, but when did this game ever advertise itself as "Economy Wars."

Who cares.

Something I learned from working in the food industry. You want to have the most employees and the best employees working during the peak periods, to better service the majority of your customers. That doesn't mean during off-peaks you hand out crap service, but that it maybe wasn't as good as it could be. Yeah, you're going to get more complaints during off-peaks, but thats to be expected.

I see ANet doing the same thing, the majority of Guild Wars players cannot buy a Crystalline, in fact, the majority of them have probably never actually seen one in-game. So why shouldn't they make this item less rare? What makes it more special than any other sword? Really they should just get rid of rares altogether, its a stupid idea thats got stuck into every RPG for some reason, but thats a whole nother topic.

Face it, you're the minority, and ANet doesn't really care how much you cry about it. They're going to cater to the majority, and thats us poor people who have never even seen a Crystalline.

So, heres to more inscribable rare drops, and to that new green crystalline sword in the next GW chapter.

For a person saying "who cares" you seem pretty worked up at the fact not all share your view of the rarest sword being dumbed down for the lazy.

Like it or not there is an economy and will be till gw goes offline. Many people continue playing the game after the luke warm storyline for items ... deal with it.

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

22 Jan 2007 at 05:19 - 74

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Originally Posted by Vilaptca

Really they should just get rid of rares altogether.

That's the point some people here are making. That is exactly what they have been doing since the silly inscription idea rolled out and this is one more step in that direction.
The fact that there are less people who enjoy one aspect of the game sounds like a great reason to take that away from them

It really is pointless to even try to have a conversation with the "majority" since it always comes down to statements like yours.

I don't like it so who gives a shit if anyone else does

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

22 Jan 2007 at 05:22 - 75

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Originally Posted by Vilaptca

They're going to cater to the majority, and thats us poor people who have never even seen a Crystalline.

The problem is that inscribable crystallines don't cater to poor people, they cater to the middle-class (~300k) people who can't figure out how to make money faster. Assuming crystallines drop to what the prices of other middle/high-end weapons are, most people still won't be able to afford them. You're just going to be seeing wammos and monks with farm builds running around spamming their leet swords, similar to what you see with Chaos Axes and Fellblades.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

22 Jan 2007 at 05:25 - 76

I was just thinking about the Van Gogh thing earlier.

I have a poster of Starry Night by Van Gogh.

I have also seen the actual painting Starry Night by Van Gogh.

I dont see how having posters, postcards, copies (one of my friends in college painted a copy of Starry Night) brings the value of the original down.

Its like comparing a bootleg to an original. Its never gonna be worth as much, mean as much, or hold as much esteem.

And now that they STOPPED dropping, shouldn't those older genuine crystallines become MORE collectible to the real collectors?

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This really reminds me of the whole Takara Binaltech Transformers versus the Hasbro Alternators. The Binaltech version is diecast, and the Alternators version is plastic.

I would rather have the diecast version, but the plastic version is pretty good by itself.

Any real collector would own both though.....

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Maybe we need some rarer, harder to get vanity skins...

SodOffShotgun

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

22 Jan 2007 at 05:27 - 77

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Originally Posted by leprekan

For a person saying "who cares" you seem pretty worked up at the fact not all share your view of the rarest sword being dumbed down for the lazy.

Worked up? How so? Unlike your previous post where you call ANET stupid, his post was calm and didnt call people names.

And here we go again with the "lazy" label... I'm sorry that most people can't or won't spend millions of gold for a sword. Does that really make them lazy?

But really I dont give a damn about crystallines or any other "elite" item out there, I just find it irritating that people kick and scream about it being "cheaper" now and how ANET is "ruining the game" Overreact much?

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

22 Jan 2007 at 05:36 - 78

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Originally Posted by SodOffShotgun

Worked up? How so? Unlike your previous post where you call ANET stupid, his post was calm and didnt call people names.

And here we go again with the "lazy" label... I'm sorry that most people can't or won't spend millions of gold for a sword. Does that really make them lazy?

But really I dont give a damn about crystallines or any other "elite" item out there, I just find it irritating that people kick and scream about it being "cheaper" now and how ANET is "ruining the game" Overreact much?

When Anet comes a long and nerfs something you care about remind me to tell you to calm down. They are doing a damn fine job of killing why many of us play this game. PvP been there done that .. PvE beat any chapter in 2-3 days. Collect items .. make them worthless and there isnt anything to collect. Pardon me if I am pissed that those that won't apply the effort to get things others work for are dictating the future of this game. You want things cheap with next to no effort. Next up make fow 1.5k and no materials required right?

SodOffShotgun

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

22 Jan 2007 at 05:55 - 79

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Originally Posted by leprekan

When Anet comes a long and nerfs something you care about remind me to tell you to calm down. They are doing a damn fine job of killing why many of us play this game. PvP been there done that .. PvE beat any chapter in 2-3 days. Collect items .. make them worthless and there isnt anything to collect. Pardon me if I am pissed that those that won't apply the effort to get things others work for are dictating the future of this game. You want things cheap with next to no effort. Next up make fow 1.5k and no materials required right?

Nope. I don't go ballistic because it's just a game. And there hasnt been anything that happens that can't be adapted to. Collecting items isnt fun if the items are worthless? How so? I collect kappa shells because I have a strange love for turtles. Why let the value of items dictate your fun in collecting stuff?

And who exactly isnt "applying effort to get things?" Who exactly dictates how much effort is needed to get things? You say that you don't like people dictating the future but it sounds like you're doing the same. And how exactly does the amount of effort of others hinder your own efforts?

And who said they wanted to make FOW 1.5k? And I NEVER said that I "want things cheap with next to no effort" Stop making exaggerations and lies. If you want to make a point, do so without making stuff up.

Aeon221

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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22 Jan 2007 at 06:22 - 80

As it happens, Anet has every reason to hate you people who grind.

Think about it simply. Anet receives the same amount of cash from every player per expansion regardless of how much they play.

So income is constant with regards to number of hours played.

However, costs due to server maintenance accumulate faster when more people are on, based on the number of hours that each of them spend on. Therefore, cost varies based on playtime.

In conclusion, from a STRICTLY financial point of view (ignoring the value of a committed community), Anet has every reason to reduce grind and to create disincentives to those who play overmuch.

More importantly, I want them to make my 15k hydro pimp suit (and the rest of my Ascalon gear) inscribe-able. WTF are they wasting time on a sword .001% of the population even cares about?

EDIT:

If you people hate the game because you have everything, try handing out all your cash, deleting all your characters, and starting again. Here's a hint: you won't be able to solo farm UW this time around.