Design-A-Weapon Contest

thelegendozelda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

OoT

W/Mo

yea, add this question in just for laughs

"when is CH4 coming out? or when will we get some info about CH4?"

Brandon1107

Brandon1107

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/

dang. if that blade didnt get picked I deffinatley don't have a chance.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hey, guys,

I think I'm going to write up a FAQ on this. It seems it might serve multiple purposes and would be helpful to all. I want the FAQ to be useful for all contests, so it will be somewhat generic, with the actual rules page giving specifics for any certain contest.

Are there any other questions that you wish to have included?
If more than one of your entries are honestly the best ones, will 1 be picked for the top 10 and the rest entered into the "honorable mentions"(making it so that several of your designs end up in the game)? Or do they limit it to 1 to "be fair" and trash the rest?

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelegendozelda
yea, add this question in just for laughs

"when is CH4 coming out? or when will we get some info about CH4?"
oh, for the love of... please people.. enough with CH4. I hope Gaile don't even honor that question with a response.

Draco Angelus

Draco Angelus

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Guild in Pyjama's [PJs]

A/

If these questions havent been answered on the GW site (if they have I missed them and a link would be very kind):

-in what degree are the weapons judged?
as in, does a brilliant artist have a better chance of winning than someone who made a somewhat lousy drawing but quite original?

-Is there any limit to how amaturistic the drawings can be?
Of course I'm not asking to take doodles serious, but a LOT of people are allready quitting because they've seen the level of the winners and conclude their art may very well be seen as wasted effort.



Obviously this is about what level of artists can actually compete in the contest, I for one am Certaily not as good as any of the current winning artist, though I'm confident that my work isn't just wasted wood and coal

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
The only thing that "defies logical reasoning," is your not parsing the statement properly. If that error was the fault of poor composition on my part, then I apologize.

When I say "we" I mean "we" as in players. Individuals. Devs on the Live Server. No dev can go into the game and put in a Dev Hax code and generate this sword or that amount of gold.
My apologies, but still I can't "parse" in words that don't exist.

Quote:
Add a new NPC? All of those things take a great deal of programming, and frankly,
That strikes me as taking minimal programming compared to any other option, but you make a point.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Gaile,

You might want to give a more detailed explanation of the "place of residence," as this seems to be the most confusing to people.

You stated that ArenaNet's attorney said it's determined by voter registration, but that doesn't work well as I would believe that quite a lot of GW players are not old enough to vote or have never registered to vote.

So the attorney needs to provide a better definition. Something that will cover the non-voting players.

Odinius

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

this is the Bow I submitted last time, didn't win though but the bow that won had a similar design which looked much better.

This year I'm working on a sword and a scythe because I'm blank with bowdesigns.

Yosh

Yosh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

California

Zero Mercy

Mo/

I say a whip. If not for a new profession then for a paragon.

ravensong

ravensong

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Croatia

Me/

Yes Gaile FAQ would be great,thank you

So,parent entering in minor`s name beats "entries cannot be submitted by anyone but the creator"? or? :P

c_ras

c_ras

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Eternal Deliverance

R/

Here may be another thing to touch base on in the FAQ

You may want to add some stuff on the Judging of Designs. I think it is listed that designs will be judged based on design, creativity, etc.

I think a lot of people that have seen some of last year's designs are afraid to enter because they believe they don't stand a chance in the "quality department". Some people have gone to the extremes and have designed their weapons using 3D modeling and such. Because of this, some people think that their sketches using traditional paper and pencil may be judged unequally even though they may have spent the same amount of time than the person using some 3D software. I am sure that the designs are being judged more so on the creativity and the overall concept rather than what was used to design it. You may want to make it clearer beyond what is already there. With that, maybe those that are a little afraid of submitting a design will send in their best.

Aigred

Aigred

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wild Rose Country

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tide to Go
if you win do they name the weapon by the background name u can send in? or do they make teir own names?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
Iron Wingbow & Gavel of the Nephilim were named by the creators, so it probably a matter of whatever the find cooler/more appropriate.
I can confirm that other winning weapon entries were named by the devs, so yes, it is the choice of the devs as to whether they give it their own name or use the name you supply.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Art is judged mostly on the level of creativity and the uniqueness of design. Yes, a sketch is good, but a well-done sketch is better. No one needs to purchase 3D software, or take design course, to enter our contests! I will express to all those judging -- and I'm there when the judging takes place, so don't worry about that -- that we're not looking for impressive art, but for impressive ideas. Sometimes those things go hand in hand. Sometimes (case in point, the beaver guild emblem ) they clearly do not.

Location and eligibility will be explained in the FAQ at a bit more detail that provided. The FAQ is going to be published on Wednesday.

Hope that helps.

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

Yes it helps a lot, TY GAILE!

HKSdivision

HKSdivision

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Woot woot, Gaile you rock!! Gaile is right, you don't need a 3D software to make your design, just check out some of the winner's from before; they were hand drawn!

clawofcrimson

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

W/

can this guy win again??


http://andreroux.com/swords.pdf

if so I dont think I will even enter...

Plague

Plague

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/E

My only problem with some of the contest winners has been that the design was good in its details, which you can't see in-game. The dragoncrest axe (right name, right?) I was impressed with in concept, but the in-game version is so small that you can't really see anything but an oddly-shaped blade. Some of the fault rests with us designers and some rests with ANet for either choosing designs that can't be converted (with justice) to a model, or not converting the design properly. That axe could have been a lot bigger...

I actually finished my scythe design tonight. I don't even care about winning or getting recognition, I'd just like to actually have a scythe design in the game that I like... The existing ones look like wheat sickles or gardening tools instead of legendary weapons. :-/

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

I have a few entries in mind. Will post them on this thread (or another) after the deadline. (Don't want u guys to suck my ideas )

Feme Assassin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Greece

Reign of Heroes[ROH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by demonblade


didnt win


one question....
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WHY IT DIDNT WIN I WANT THAT SWORD NOW

Jumping Is Uselss

Jumping Is Uselss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

-... . .... .. -. -.. / -.-- --- ..-

Maybe it didnt win because it looks similar to the butterfly sword.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping Is Uselss
Maybe it didnt win because it looks similar to the butterfly sword.
Just my thoughts. Part of the wingblade/butterfly sword's blade was converted into the hilt. The idea is good and the pic is cool but Anet might have found it a bit unoriginal.

Allanon754

Allanon754

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Rochester, NY

Kings Beyond the Wall [KING]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psuedo Halgoen
Please please please PLEASE!!! can some of you design some amazing caster items.

Yes please, it would be so nice to have individual Caster items instead of one staff, and one focus/cane... plus they seem to be dull compared to other weapons

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I'm wielding a wooden board with sharp nails of pwnage!

Plague

Plague

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/E

I think that sword didn't win because it's not a very unique design. It's just a sword. It's a pretty model (congrats to whomever made it), but in the game it would just be a normal long sword with a slightly different hilt. You wouldn't even be able to make out the inscriptions.

That's the problem with designing weapons for a game like this: you have to make sure the shape of the weapon is unique, not the detailing. If you could turn the form of your design into a silhouette and be unable to distinguish your design from someone else's, you've failed. (Unless you're doing something for a game like... Oblivion, where the weapon is literally right in your face all the time.)

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by prism2525
I have a few entries in mind. Will post them on this thread (or another) after the deadline. (Don't want u guys to suck my ideas)
We would like to ask that no one post until after the winners are announced and the art is posted on our site. There is a reason for this that has to do with how we may go about making the announcements and revealing the new items.

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

I'm planning on trying to come up with a caster weapon or 2 - while usually drawing swords has been my thing, I think caster weapons could really use a burst of life, so that's what I'll probably aim for.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
We would like to ask that no one post until after the winners are announced and the art is posted on our site. There is a reason for this that has to do with how we may go about making the announcements and revealing the new items.
Sure, no prob Galie.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElinoraNeSangre
I'm planning on trying to come up with a caster weapon or 2 - while usually drawing swords has been my thing, I think caster weapons could really use a burst of life, so that's what I'll probably aim for.
I think so too, however I find it harder to draw (pencil or photoshop) caster items than swords etc. Still i have a few ideas i won't waste.

PS: Galie, is it ok for us to send printed computer-generated images?

zidane888

zidane888

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle WA

[Oops]

W/R

^ Yes, you can.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Can we post ideas we are NOT sending in?

ravensong

ravensong

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Croatia

Me/

Hey Gaile when will the FAQ be ready?

and lyra_song yes you can post ideas which you dont send in lol :P but there is a chance that someone will steal the idea and take all the credit

clawofcrimson

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

W/

with the upcoming news of ch4 coming in april its too bad the entries will have to be in by march 30 ..... we don't know anything about new professions and their weapons (if there are any)

zidane888

zidane888

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle WA

[Oops]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by clawofcrimson
with the upcoming news of ch4 coming in april its too bad the entries will have to be in by march 30 ..... we don't know anything about new professions and their weapons (if there are any)
The rules state that the designs should be inspired on Tyria/Elona/Cantha. Take the time to re-read them perhaps.

Stealthc

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kansas City Hotsteppers

Quote:
Originally Posted by demonblade

didnt win
I'm going have a guess and suggest it didn't win because it looks far too much like the Master Sword from the legend of zelda series.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

You have to remember, Swords in this game are mostly seen for the blade itself. In making a design for Guild Wars you have to think about how big it will be in proportion to the player and how visible it will be, as well as signature features.

The blade shape and design is not very memorable and is rather bland.The handle looks great, but your hand covers that. The guard is kinda so so, i dont know how detailed it would look once rendered.

ravensong

ravensong

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Croatia

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
You have to remember, Swords in this game are mostly seen for the blade itself. In making a design for Guild Wars you have to think about how big it will be in proportion to the player and how visible it will be, as well as signature features.

The blade shape and design is not very memorable and is rather bland.The handle looks great, but your hand covers that. The guard is kinda so so, i dont know how detailed it would look once rendered.
Yes must agree, Demonblade`s sword really looks good and its well made/rendered but he didnt win becouse its rather plain and it did not .....uhm how do you say...point out from the rest by the idea and originality

Psuedo Halgoen

Psuedo Halgoen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

GMT+10

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElinoraNeSangre
I'm planning on trying to come up with a caster weapon or 2 - while usually drawing swords has been my thing, I think caster weapons could really use a burst of life, so that's what I'll probably aim for.
Oh please do Eli!

ravensong

ravensong

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Croatia

Me/

Everyone, FAQ is here!

Petrus

Petrus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

norway

W/

someone make a huge stormbow skinned hammer plz...:P er got no huge hammers with cool animations on.... and it has to be BIG....:P i cant draw for shit so someone else have to make it...

c_ras

c_ras

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Eternal Deliverance

R/

Is there any way that the FAQ can be cleaned up a bit? It seems that the FAQ questions and the answers kind of mesh all together, especially with everything being same font, same color, and bold. Sometimes it hard to tell when a FAQ question or answer starts.
Something like this might make it easier for people:

Example Layout:

Can I relay a contest entry through a third party in order to skirt the eligibility rules?
No. Each entry must be the unique property of the person who enters and prizes can be sent only to the entrant.

Why are European contestants between ages 13 and 18 required to enter through their parent?
There are legal restrictions on contests in Europe that make it appropriate to require that Europeans in that age group enter through one of their parents or guardians. Credit can be given to the artist, rather than the parent, if that preference is indicated on the entry itself.


I'm sure you get the point. Having the questions bold and the answers normal makes it easier to find what you are looking for, easier to read, and looks more professional.

motoko_kawaii

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

Defenders of the Blackblade

Weaponsmith Title....wow yes!

I had a go this time round, doubt i will win but who knows

Was not that impressed by the prizes, but I would like to get "my own" weapon in game.

{BHC}KingWarman88

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Castle 2_5_2 SwissLand

BHC

W/N

Hey,

you can make your own weapons