I had read that tidbit from Gaile about how the formula is secret, but I didn't realize that she said they were supposed to get worse each time you opened them.
Does that mean if you opened them for a theoretical 10th time they would only give out a white and 50g?
Good News and Bad News
darktyco
Sir Skullcrasher
I can't open any chests on my Warrior Grim even thought it's passed 30 days. Guess I need to figure out the formula to open up more chests.
BoredJoe
Started opening chests on my W and began from the Keys. I actually got golds from teh starter island and Kourna, but when I went to Vabbi I got a purple so I'm not sure if the quality of drops depends on how many chests opened so far on that third go. Maybe I should have started from ROT and gone backwards?
Sub Frost
Sorry to bring this up again, but the so called "secret formula" is still... lets say... puzzling me...
So lets see, between the 2nd chest reset and the recent 3rd chest reset, my dervish did... absolutely nothing... and could open all the chests for a 3rd time.
Now my primary character(ranger) between the same time spawn(from the last 2 resets) did quests, missions, farmed, explored, etc... and cant open any chests for a third time(a week has passed since i opened them with my dervish).
So based on this, im suppose to do nothing to open the chests now?
I know this isn't that big a deal, just don't get why the chests don't reset at the same time for a specific account.
So lets see, between the 2nd chest reset and the recent 3rd chest reset, my dervish did... absolutely nothing... and could open all the chests for a 3rd time.
Now my primary character(ranger) between the same time spawn(from the last 2 resets) did quests, missions, farmed, explored, etc... and cant open any chests for a third time(a week has passed since i opened them with my dervish).
So based on this, im suppose to do nothing to open the chests now?
I know this isn't that big a deal, just don't get why the chests don't reset at the same time for a specific account.
ElinoraNeSangre
Clarify for me: how many of you did not open every single chest on the same day (opened them varying days since the Jan reset), and can now start opening the ones they did open right after the reset for the 3rd time.
Example: opened Mirror of Lyss chest 1/20, opened Jahai Bluffs 2/3, can now reopen Mirror of Lyss chest.
Example: opened Mirror of Lyss chest 1/20, opened Jahai Bluffs 2/3, can now reopen Mirror of Lyss chest.
cellardweller
Warrior and Ranger- Opened all chests ~20/12, Opened all chests 19/1 Cannot open any for the 3rd time.
Monk - Opened all chests except newbie island 20/12, Opened all except newbie island chests 19/1. Cannot open any chests for a 3rd time (newbie islands ones remain unopened).
Ele - Opened 2 newbie island chests ~20/12. Opened 2 newbie island 19/1 opened Marga coast and jahai blufs on an intervening date. Opened 2 newbie island chests 3rd time, Marga coast and jahai blufs for the 2nd time 20/2.
Other 6 toons - Opened all reachable chests (depending on progress) ~20/12 and others as they reached them (including one as late as 17/1). Reopened all chests 19/1, opened other chests as progress continued. Cannnot open any chests for a 3rd time.other chests as progress continued. Cannnot open any chests for a 3rd time.
Monk - Opened all chests except newbie island 20/12, Opened all except newbie island chests 19/1. Cannot open any chests for a 3rd time (newbie islands ones remain unopened).
Ele - Opened 2 newbie island chests ~20/12. Opened 2 newbie island 19/1 opened Marga coast and jahai blufs on an intervening date. Opened 2 newbie island chests 3rd time, Marga coast and jahai blufs for the 2nd time 20/2.
Other 6 toons - Opened all reachable chests (depending on progress) ~20/12 and others as they reached them (including one as late as 17/1). Reopened all chests 19/1, opened other chests as progress continued. Cannnot open any chests for a 3rd time.other chests as progress continued. Cannnot open any chests for a 3rd time.
Neo Nugget
dervish=opened istan ones=golds. 2 kourna=golds. 2 vabbi=golds.
in order of appearance for me. except the crevice do not touch ones.
in order of appearance for me. except the crevice do not touch ones.
VitisVinifera
[QUOTE=Sub Frost]Sorry to bring this up again, but the so called "secret formula" is still... lets say... puzzling me...
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it's totally puzzling to I think everyone, strangely including Gaile herself. I think that the devs are way beyond her yet again, and not really letting her into the meetings
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it's totally puzzling to I think everyone, strangely including Gaile herself. I think that the devs are way beyond her yet again, and not really letting her into the meetings
Cacheelma
I still cannot open any chests for the third time on my characters.
My mesmer opened them for the second round around Jan 21th, my elementalist a few days later. But they both still can't open any chests as of yesterday. Both of them have finished Nightfall before opening the first round.
I made my mesmer one day after Prophecies's initial launch date (April 27th 2005), mainly because I wanted to change his name a bit.
Now now, please put this info to good use and figure out the formula for us. XD
My mesmer opened them for the second round around Jan 21th, my elementalist a few days later. But they both still can't open any chests as of yesterday. Both of them have finished Nightfall before opening the first round.
I made my mesmer one day after Prophecies's initial launch date (April 27th 2005), mainly because I wanted to change his name a bit.
Now now, please put this info to good use and figure out the formula for us. XD
Sekoria
Hmm it may sound far fetched, but maybe to open chests again you have to do nothing. Here's what I meant : maybe the chests open for char A if it has been played less than X hours in the current month. It may be to give a bonus to casual players, however if it's that, it will force players to focus to 1-2 characters in order to get the chests.
Is there someone who can open the chests a third time with a character that has been played more then one who hasn't (I don't know if the question is clear)?
Is there someone who can open the chests a third time with a character that has been played more then one who hasn't (I don't know if the question is clear)?
RSGashapon
*cue eye roll* Great, another gambling mini-game in Guild Wars. I already gave up on chest running because I got sick of seeing worthless, req. 13 crap fall out of every chest I opened. The potential value of any chest item just isn't worth the price of keys anymore.
So what if there's a chance I'll get a gem and a nice pile of gold? Dealing with 50 mobs to get to some little box, only to get jerked around with some stupid formula isn't my idea of fun. Why does there even have to be a formula in the first place? Make them reset every 30 days for every character, with a gold item/gem and some coin in each. Real simple, everyone wins, we all go back to town happy.
And from a coding standpoint, it would seem much easier to just have some lines of code defining a timer than some elaborate chart/table/whatever determining which character has done what, how many hours played, which chests opened, previous value of item(s) given, color of Mhenlo's underwear of the day, alignment of the planets, etc. You know the adage KISS right? Well do just that, keep it simple stupid!
So what if there's a chance I'll get a gem and a nice pile of gold? Dealing with 50 mobs to get to some little box, only to get jerked around with some stupid formula isn't my idea of fun. Why does there even have to be a formula in the first place? Make them reset every 30 days for every character, with a gold item/gem and some coin in each. Real simple, everyone wins, we all go back to town happy.
And from a coding standpoint, it would seem much easier to just have some lines of code defining a timer than some elaborate chart/table/whatever determining which character has done what, how many hours played, which chests opened, previous value of item(s) given, color of Mhenlo's underwear of the day, alignment of the planets, etc. You know the adage KISS right? Well do just that, keep it simple stupid!
Sir Skullcrasher
I tried two more chests last night but couldn't get anything.
Grunntar
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... the quality of drops depends on how many chests opened so far on that third go. Maybe I should have started from ROT and gone backwards?
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I'm definitely always running from the end backwards!
- Grunntar
P.S., Thanks Gaile!
Cacheelma
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Hmm it may sound far fetched, but maybe to open chests again you have to do nothing. Here's what I meant : maybe the chests open for char A if it has been played less than X hours in the current month. It may be to give a bonus to casual players, however if it's that, it will force players to focus to 1-2 characters in order to get the chests.
Is there someone who can open the chests a third time with a character that has been played more then one who hasn't (I don't know if the question is clear)? |
I think it might work the other way around; the chests will be re-filled if you play a character often enough (hour-wise) or it may be related to EXP-gain for each character too. I can't test this hypothesis though because I don't have much time to play.
Saraphim
So far the only one of my chars who's been able to open for a third time is the Paragon, and I hadn't played her at all since the Jan 19th reset...
Eli Rela
I tried randomly again last night with my ele, that opened all chests on 01/19 (I thought it was a bug so rushed). Nada, zero, zip... I tested Istani, Vabbi, Nightfallen Jahai.
Tried with Necro, who opened all before Desolation on 01/19 and got same thing.
So far this is not time based, I am absolutely sure of that.
I might test in April - May again... so far, this is BS and not worth my attention anymore.
Tried with Necro, who opened all before Desolation on 01/19 and got same thing.
So far this is not time based, I am absolutely sure of that.
I might test in April - May again... so far, this is BS and not worth my attention anymore.
Traveller
I'm puzzled what the formula might be. All but one of my characters have opened the chests successfully the third time, but they haven't been able to get one or two random treasures each (usually the Forum highlands one). My necro, however, still hasn't had any luck with any treasure. Maybe there's some formula on how many chests you can open at one time per account, but that seems rather unfair, seeing that some people can't open them 3rd time more than 1-2 toons.
Puzzling!
Puzzling!
Cacheelma
I'm suspecting that the formula might have 2 factors in it. It's not just time (because some people can't open them after 30 days), and can't be something like EXP gain or hours play ALONE because that might lead to excessive farming.
I still cannot open any of them for the third time though...
I still cannot open any of them for the third time though...
Bubba
*looks at the date*
Time to test again?
Time to test again?
manitoba1073
I cant get them a third time either. on any of my 17 usuable chars.
But i do know a friend of mine was able to on a couple chars of his. I say we string ANERF up for this. or beat them like this.
But i do know a friend of mine was able to on a couple chars of his. I say we string ANERF up for this. or beat them like this.
Daenara
I've opened all the chests on all 6 of my characters on the same day, for the first two times. This third time, the only one who is able to open is my Elonian ranger, although she opened all the chests on the same day as the rest of my toons. I barely touch my ranger. My main was the first to open all the chests the first two times, however cannot open this third time around. 
Very puzzling!
Very puzzling!
arcanemacabre
It's funny, I was able to get all the chests a third time on all of the 5 characters that had reached at least desolation. My wife, however, was only able to get it on 1/4 of her characters that had those same chests. Both of us have multiple characters from all three campaigns, and at least one of my characters from each campaign could re-open the chests, while only her Canthan Warrior could.
I can lists a handful of differences between my characters and hers, if it helps.
1) I'm a big spender, not a saver. I tend to only have around 50k-100k on me at any given point in time, while my wife saves and saves, with hundreds of plat on her. At the time we went through, I only had about 80k, her about 315k or so.
2) I have about 300-400 more hours of play-time than she does. Although her account is a couple of days older than mine.
3) I have played more PvP than she has. She has only racked up about 3k balth faction, while I'm probably around 20k.
4) All the characters that could get treasures a third time, and the ones that couldn't have varying levels of multiple titles, nothing maxed. Don't think it's related to any titles that I could tell.
5) We both play all of these characters off and on fairly regularly. Some more than others, but again, I was able to get it with all my characters, no matter how much they were played, and she wasn't (save one), no matter how much they were played. So I doubt it has to do with time played.
6) Neither of us farm. I used to, before Nightfall came out, but not any more. Everything we do is exploring, questing, helping friends with missions, a little AB'ing, trying to beat campaigns, etc. I occasionally do some RA, and I'm getting into Aspenwood.
I can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Really, it looks like the only real differences are our current and long-term gold savings, I have more time invested, and I PvP more. So yeah, hope this helps at all.
I can lists a handful of differences between my characters and hers, if it helps.
1) I'm a big spender, not a saver. I tend to only have around 50k-100k on me at any given point in time, while my wife saves and saves, with hundreds of plat on her. At the time we went through, I only had about 80k, her about 315k or so.
2) I have about 300-400 more hours of play-time than she does. Although her account is a couple of days older than mine.
3) I have played more PvP than she has. She has only racked up about 3k balth faction, while I'm probably around 20k.
4) All the characters that could get treasures a third time, and the ones that couldn't have varying levels of multiple titles, nothing maxed. Don't think it's related to any titles that I could tell.
5) We both play all of these characters off and on fairly regularly. Some more than others, but again, I was able to get it with all my characters, no matter how much they were played, and she wasn't (save one), no matter how much they were played. So I doubt it has to do with time played.
6) Neither of us farm. I used to, before Nightfall came out, but not any more. Everything we do is exploring, questing, helping friends with missions, a little AB'ing, trying to beat campaigns, etc. I occasionally do some RA, and I'm getting into Aspenwood.
I can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Really, it looks like the only real differences are our current and long-term gold savings, I have more time invested, and I PvP more. So yeah, hope this helps at all.
Arduin
Tried the Buried Treasure in Mirror of Lyss for a 4th time with my main Char. Nothing.
unknown entity
It seems there're random factor which determines whether a character can open chests again or not. Gaile hinted such in past Gaile Chat.
In my case, 7 out of 10 characters could re-open chests at the end of February.
Able: 1Elonian, 2Canthan, 4Tyrian / Unable: 1Elonian, 2Tyrian
While those who opened chests later could re-open, earlier ones couldn't. There're no apparent difference among these characters.
In my case, 7 out of 10 characters could re-open chests at the end of February.
Able: 1Elonian, 2Canthan, 4Tyrian / Unable: 1Elonian, 2Tyrian
While those who opened chests later could re-open, earlier ones couldn't. There're no apparent difference among these characters.
Sofonisba
Maybe it's 3 times total?
First time between Dec 19th and Jan 19th
Reset Jan 19th, second time
*30 days or so pass*
Start of "new" reset Feb 19th, third time
No more?
(Tried my para in Jahai last night, nothing. She was the first to open after Feb 19th... then again, Feb only had 28 days, and I think I didn't go for any treasure til the 20th... OY wish I knew!!! :P )
First time between Dec 19th and Jan 19th
Reset Jan 19th, second time
*30 days or so pass*
Start of "new" reset Feb 19th, third time
No more?
(Tried my para in Jahai last night, nothing. She was the first to open after Feb 19th... then again, Feb only had 28 days, and I think I didn't go for any treasure til the 20th... OY wish I knew!!! :P )
garethporlest18
I was able to open them a 3rd time with only 1/9 characters. The others just aren't able to open them a third time so I don't know what's happening.
Sir Skullcrasher
I tried another time and can't open anything.
I MP I
I tried and can't open anything with either of my 3 characters. They were able to get all treasures to date until now. Stop the nonsense Anet. Just let people play the game and get their treasures. Get rid of the lame formula. These treasures are one of the few reasons I (as well as some other people) even bother to log in to this game.
azrael-angel
guys, check things like guild wiki, it TELLS you, they reset every 30 days PER CHARACTER FROM TIME OF OPENING!!!!!!!, so, if you say, open 1 chest in Kamadan, and then 2 weeks later one in Kourna, it will take another 2 weeks between the kamadan one and the kourna one to reset, its not rocket science, and its not exactly a formula, all my 6 characters have opened the chests twice so far, and one char has opened them 3 times now, with no problems, 30 days between opening.
Sofonisba
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guys, check things like guild wiki, it TELLS you, they reset every 30 days PER CHARACTER FROM TIME OF OPENING!!!!!!!, so, if you say, open 1 chest in Kamadan, and then 2 weeks later one in Kourna, it will take another 2 weeks between the kamadan one and the kourna one to reset, its not rocket science, and its not exactly a formula, all my 6 characters have opened the chests twice so far, and one char has opened them 3 times now, with no problems, 30 days between opening.
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I have also been able to open chests 3 times on 5 (or 6, can't remember) chars, but the first one hasn't reset yet.
<--willing to admit I am not sure to calculate 30 days or Feb 19-Mar 19, or which particular day my first char opened for the 3rd time.
kazjun
Don't think its just a 30 day formula. Got 4 pve characters. All opened chests twice. Heard about being able to reopen a third time (weeks ago). My main char, and the one I opened the chests with first, couldn't open a third time. My necro and ele, could open the chests for a third time. My ranger, who opened last, last time, couldn't reopen a third time.
Reset every 30 days per character? No.
Reset every 30 days per character? No.
QoH
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guys, check things like guild wiki, it TELLS you
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Evilsod
Anyone willing to bet Gaile doesn't know the formula either? She's just making up bullshit to keep people occupied...
fabiola
about the wiki article...
While 30 days certainly may be one part of the equation it is definitely misleading people. All characters will NOT get a reset every 30 days. However, SOME characters in past instances have gotten resets after approximately 30 days had passed since last opening. There is some formula according to gaile a formula they are unwilling to disclose. For all we know it could be random selection by like how during halloween people were picked to played rock paper scissors against the mad king. Again its really at this point a guessing game at best.
While 30 days certainly may be one part of the equation it is definitely misleading people. All characters will NOT get a reset every 30 days. However, SOME characters in past instances have gotten resets after approximately 30 days had passed since last opening. There is some formula according to gaile a formula they are unwilling to disclose. For all we know it could be random selection by like how during halloween people were picked to played rock paper scissors against the mad king. Again its really at this point a guessing game at best.
Mournblade
Agreed. 30 Day formula is not correct. None of my characters can open chests for a third time and its been more than 30 days since I last opened a chest with ANY of them.
boxterduke
Yeah I donot think its 30 days.
The last time the chests actually got reset, I was able to open them all with all characters except one, (keeping in mind that the time before that I opened the chests with all characters within 2 days, so there was not a long time between them)
After the threads that poped up last week about them being reset again, I went to check and was not able to open them even with that character that I was not able to open with the last time. It has been well over 50 days I would say.
The last time the chests actually got reset, I was able to open them all with all characters except one, (keeping in mind that the time before that I opened the chests with all characters within 2 days, so there was not a long time between them)
After the threads that poped up last week about them being reset again, I went to check and was not able to open them even with that character that I was not able to open with the last time. It has been well over 50 days I would say.
Former Ruling
It is definately not 30 days...
I have the one character that hasn't been able to open any chest in almost 2 months.
I have the one character that hasn't been able to open any chest in almost 2 months.
Sofonisba
For my particular account, the rule seems to be, 3 strikes and yer out.
Every char that has opened 3 times, cannot open a 4th time. The ones who have not yet opened 3 times (and 30 days have gone by since the last opening), can.
Every char that has opened 3 times, cannot open a 4th time. The ones who have not yet opened 3 times (and 30 days have gone by since the last opening), can.
Traveller
That does not apply to me, though. From the last batch (february, 3rd run) some characters could open all and some could not, having opened only 2 chests altogether. (None of my toons can open any for the 4th time.)
Killin_Frenzy
Just checked to see if my chests have reset and they have 
. Been around 2 months before mine reset.
Just opened 5 of them, drops have been worse than my previous ones though.
. Been around 2 months before mine reset.Just opened 5 of them, drops have been worse than my previous ones though.