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Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

My warrior who couldn't open them 2 days ago opened all of them again just now. My Ranger, who opened them days before my warrior did is still out of luck. I really don't see a pattern.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Well I've just tried numerous characters (one who opened all the chests on the lunchtime after the last time they were reset was announced) and none of them can open them again. This is in contrast to a friend who is going round opening all of them with what seems to be any character he chooses...so...an explanation would be appreciated as to why some players are being "unfairly treated".

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Here's another question then - did anyone check these chests in time since the first reset and the second time you opened the chests? Like, did you leave them completely alone for 30 days, or did you check and got nothing?

Hexum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

MxG

N/Mo

I am not sure when I last opened them, but I ran all my chars the past couple days and was able to get all of them. Except one char was only able to get the 2 on the island and nothing else.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Perhaps there is more than one condition that needs to be met before you can open the chests again.
Such as leveling up a certain amount.
The january reset could have been a patch that introduced several conditons to the chests manually reseting themselves.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
My warrior who couldn't open them 2 days ago opened all of them again just now. My Ranger, who opened them days before my warrior did is still out of luck. I really don't see a pattern.
The exact same chests? All of them?
I know that after the first "reset" there was 1 chest that was still empy, and that was the last chest I got the first time.

Just seems like its a certain time from when you opened that specific chest. lol the chest has a 1 month cool down.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

From reading at all the posts, it seems like some of you can open it the third time while other can only one or none at all. Guess it's a bug gone bad?

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
The exact same chests? All of them?
I know that after the first "reset" there was 1 chest that was still empy, and that was the last chest I got the first time.

Just seems like its a certain time from when you opened that specific chest. lol the chest has a 1 month cool down.
Both times, first my ranger opened all chests 'in order', working his way from Istan to Torment, followed by my warrior doing the exact same routine. I haven't a clue how and when my other characters did it, but I'm 100% sure of those two.

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
The exact same chests? All of them?
I know that after the first "reset" there was 1 chest that was still empy, and that was the last chest I got the first time.

Just seems like its a certain time from when you opened that specific chest. lol the chest has a 1 month cool down.
Yeah, but I've tried many that I know I opened 1/20 and they still haven't reset for me, so it's more than that. Unfortunately, I'm out of thoughts (I track down the causes and repro steps of bugs every day, and my poor brain can't stop doing it no matter what I do, I keep trying to come up with possible factors!).

We've ruled out as factors:
-Finishing the game
-Character continent of origin
-1 month wait
-Times you've checked since last update (since people have checked and then checked again two days later and they've opened)

Still uncomfirmed possible factors:
-Experience gained between openings

How much have ya'll played those specific characters between then and now? Mostly I've been playing my characters that haven't opened many chests (such as my paragon) rather than the ones that opened most of them (mesmer and ele), so the experience thing could be a thought.

Then again, it's entirely possible that the factor is something random that we have no control over.

Here's another random thought, although I doubt it's it it doesn't hurt to ask. Do any of your characters that can open have any titles? It's a shot in the dark, but like I said, I can't stop trying to figure these things out. :P

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Maybe your characters has to be active over 30 days period before you can reopen the chests?

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
Maybe your characters has to be active over 30 days period before you can reopen the chests?
I guess it depends on the meaning of "active" because I almost totally ignored my paragon for the past month, only logging on to transfer items in the gh; she was able to get every single treasure all 3 times.

Rockby Quickfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Raptor Five [Five]

Me/Mo

I think I can help rule out the experience theory. I play my Mesmer almost exclusively. I have one other character, a Ritualist, that I've played for about 50 hours max. My Mesmer is somewhere around 600 I believe. I got the chests both times, went back the other day and couldn't get them again.

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

I used my paragon to test a few of the outstanding factors.

I opened all the chests on the 21st Jan.

Since then I've logged at least 1 hour, generally more a day in in game active time.

I've gained just over 900k experience during the time.

I've not attempted to open any of the chests/treasures/do not touch since I opened them on the 21st.

Not a single bloody chest opened for me this time.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

My Elonian mesmer has opened them all twice, can't get the third yet. My paragon, however, was able to open them in Kourna and Vabbi, but not beyond that.

I dunno.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

hmm odd
i opened it wiht my para and ele so far not my war tho... (these are my least active chars btw)

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Well, I do have an answer sort of, but it might not help. Gaile said today in Kamadan ID1 that yes, they do reset, but that the reset is going to be different for different characters, and that she's not entirely sure how the designers have it set up. She did say that we may wish to head near the ones later in the game.

http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=443497

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

nice to see gaile clueless as usual..........sigh

also in that she says she doesn't know when the release date for ch4 will be

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

It's very possible (in fact, likely) that ANet hasn't set a date at all.

As for the chests, I could see them not making it very predictable just to keep us on our toes, but that might just be my michevious sense of humor sneaking out.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

hmm i dunno it seems werid i'm trying it with the characters that finsihed the game and they all (except my war) can do it again...

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

im confused by the whole thing. Gonna try to reopen.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Meh... I've tried with all my other toons at least three times this week with a few earlier chests (can't be bothered to be repeatedly revisiting all of them) and still my Paragon is the only one who's been able to open them for a third time.

darktyco

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

We need to make a big chart of all the variables we can think of, keep track of the data for 1000 different chars, and then maybe the pattern will emerge

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

shouldnt wiki have one?They had one for the probability of the lunar fortunes.

Jalinka_Vail

Jalinka_Vail

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Kansas

Legend of Five

R/Mo

4 out 6 of my pve characters could open chests again.

The following chests had purples each time.
Domain of Pain
Nightfallen Jahai

Raaaaa

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

AP

D/

The mirror of lys had money but jahai didnt, odd

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

I've now visited all treasures with 4 of my chars, all of whom have opened them twice before (second time immediately after first reset last month). Each of them have been able to reopen for a third time.

In total, these are chars who have seen both a lot of action/xp, and almost zero action/xp in the last month.

3 of the 4 did not attend any part of the Canthan New Year.

All of them have finished the game (finished before last reset, actually).

My variables will be the ones who only opened a portion of the treasures before the last reset, and those who opened them for the first time in the past month.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Dear Anet,
I am, like many others, wasting half of my gaming time having to run and re-run chests every day to determine whether a reset has had on a character. I know you like being coy and mysterious, but this lack of information of is ruining the gaming experience of many people. Please be more forthcoming with information on how the resets are happening so we can get back to playing the game.

Thankyou.

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
Dear Anet,
I am, like many others, wasting half of my gaming time having to run and re-run chests every day to determine whether a reset has had on a character. I know you like being coy and mysterious, but this lack of information of is ruining the gaming experience of many people. Please be more forthcoming with information on how the resets are happening so we can get back to playing the game.

Thankyou.
Your gaming experience is being ruined by not getting "FREE" stuff
Get a grip!

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixdartbart
Your gaming experience is being ruined by not getting "FREE" stuff
Get a grip!
Try reading next time. My gaming experience is being ruined by having to spend 1hr every night to chests that say "the chest is empty".

Happy trolling

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
Try reading next time. My gaming experience is being ruined by having to spend 1hr every night to chests that say "the chest is empty".

Happy trolling
I read it perfectly and who the hell is making you spend an hour a night doing this?
And for the record I'm not trolling here, just sick of seeing people bitching about how they are victims of themselves, so seriously get a grip!

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixdartbart
I read it perfectly and who the hell is making you spend an hour a night doing this?
And for the record I'm not trolling here, just sick of seeing people bitching about how they are victims of themselves, so seriously get a grip!
Anet is forcing me because unless you physically go there and check you cannot tell if it has been reset. Noone is being a victim, I'm asking anet to reveal the information so we can get back to playing the game.

As for getting a grip, I'm not the one thats flying off the handle here. If you have reasons for wanting to keep people in the dark the express them and make your point so that a legitimate debate can occur.

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Chests that are easy and quick to run to and you should check:
  • Mehtani Keys
  • Issnur Isles
  • Jahai Bluffs
  • Mirror of Lyss
  • Nightfallen Jahai

And none of my dervish, monk, or mesmer could open those.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

No one is forcing you to run the chests every day. Go play the game and try the chests later, maybe a week or so.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Traveller
No one is forcing you to run the chests every day. Go play the game and try the chests later, maybe a week or so.
And potentially miss out on 20plat +7 gold items. You may be able enjoy yourself with the knowledge that you're potentially missing out on rewards, but I cannot.



Getting away from the whole "you don't have to check them" argument, has anyone actually had the case where
1) They checked the chest on or after the 19th Feb and had no rewards.
2) They subsequently checked the chest again and found items.

In my case I had 1 character that could open them on the 19th feb, and 9 characters that couldn't. I have checked every day with the others none of the 9 have had a change in thier opening status.

rabwatt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

Ive tried with 3 characters who have all completed nightfall. One Nighfall character, One Factions and One prophecies. Prophecies and Factions ahve completed their respective chapters.
All chests I tried were empty.

One additional factor is I started a new nighfall character and been playing through the game getting chests as i go.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
And potentially miss out on 20plat +7 gold items. You may be able enjoy yourself with the knowledge that you're potentially missing out on rewards, but I cannot.
Sorry to say you would have got 20-plat and 7 golds from high level chest runs in the same amount of time its taken you check the chests.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

Lol... well it's certainly not ruining my gaming experience, I just pop them out and check the chests someone mentioned further up now and then. It's a want and need thing anyway, yeh I'd like the chests to pop out useful stuff for my chars, but mostly they've been Paragon shields, scrying glasses or scythes. So I generally salvage any good mods and merch the rest.

To be honest, the collector weapons from Factions are better than most of the NF ones. So if I need some gear for my heroes I just go and farm soul stones or warden horns and get the stuff I need there.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixdartbart
Your gaming experience is being ruined by not getting "FREE" stuff
Get a grip!
Try reading next time. My gaming experience is being ruined by having to spend 1hr every night to chests that say "the chest is empty".

Happy trolling
Umm, I'm with cellardweller on this one...It is very frustrating when some people can open chests for free and you can't. Since most farming spots have been severley nerfed it's necessary to take whatever you can since heroes push up rune prices etc.. Things are becomming expensive and noone is buying anything any more.

Moreover, that's more frustrating, is the fact some people can open the chests a third time while others can't...which is hardly fair. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's "ruining" my gaming experience...I just find it unfair that some players are allowed to get wealthier for free while others aren't...

Quote:
Originally Posted by rabwatt
Sorry to say you would have got 20-plat and 7 golds from high level chest runs in the same amount of time its taken you check the chests.
and you can guarantee that huh? I've ran a fair few chests and have VERY VERY rarely got anything worth selling...and never anything worth 20k before. So either you must be excessively lucky or a ha><0r...but I sure as hell don't have that sort of luck...so, "sorry to say", you're wrong...more often than not I make a loss whever I go chest running.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Gaile has spoke on this everybody. She said the programmers won't release the formula but it will be different for each character. Also the more you open them, the worse they get, so the higher ended free chests, maybe the ones you wan to go for all the time.

That's what a friend of mine said she said on GWO and what I asked and she said today in Shing Jea ID1.

So everyone of our characters that hasn't, will be able to, but go for higher ended chests so you don't get purples as much. Believe me or don't, don't have any proof atm, but that's what I heard and I'm lead to believe it.

BoredJoe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

I tried on my necro that was the first through Nightfall and got golds on all of the Vabbi and Desolation chests and purples everywhere else including ROT.

In fact in the Domain of Pain chest I only got about 1 plat gold from the chest so a waste of time. Still gotta run through all of the chests on my other characters to see what I get but golds so far in Vabbi.

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

So far i have still not been able to open the treasures with any of my other characters since my initial success on 3rd opennings with my ranger