The Worst Skills in GW

BryanM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

I think Extend Conditions is still winning.

I think Mantra of Recovery is actually a good mesmer elite, now. Not sure how I feel about their other elites...

Unyielding Aura used to be hilarious fun when I saw it in Random Arenas. And I carried Drain Enchantment. You know, before Glyph of Lesser Energy became almost elite-worthy...

Kashrlyyk

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyLink
[skill]Scavenger's Focus[/skill]

At the same level of wilderness survival you get 4 more damage out of kindle arrows (which adds the extra damage no matter what), and Scavenger's Focus costs 5 more energy, AND it takes the elite slot.
Scavenger`s Focus works with every weapon, unlike kindle arrow.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

I used otyugh's cry to level my chars' pets to dire.

......And marksman wager is the most useless skill of them all.

BryanM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

It beats Archer's Signet to a pulp. It can actually be used for energy gain without a billion points in Expertise - auto attacks for the energy. :/

But yeah, lackluster.

Again with Second Wind: it beats all other "instant" energy gain in raw energy gained after only around 10 exhaustion.

tayos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Frozen North

United Union

P/Rt

Well, I disagree with alot of things that are said here, and I've got something I'd be booted for spam with, but uh, top of my list has Magehunter Smash (not to be confused with magehunter strike) and Wastrel's Collapse which was more appropriately named Shameful Waste.

Strong disagreement with any commentary against "The Power is yours!" since I play a paragon frequently and Leadership and Energizing Chorus nullify most of the downside of the skill anyhow. And no one ever seems to realize how well Stone Sheath combines with Ward Against Elements if you hadn't noticed yet...

Darth Kukulkan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

E/

Yes it combines but only on attackers, only on a zone... casters are not affected, like mesmers fo example :x. But I'll try ;p

Wildi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

PvE is the Metagame

skill synergies are weak
Stone Shealth + Ward against Elements < Stand your Ground + Bladeturn Refrain
Stone Shealth + Ward against Elements < Ward Against Harm

l337 nuker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Peace and Harmony, anyone?

Shmanka

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by l337 nuker
Peace and Harmony, anyone?
That Peace and Harmony/Heal Party spammer in RA is better then 50% of the monks in there. That skill cannot be THAThorrible.

I'd have to agree, marksmans wager is definitely one of the worst out there. I will never see a use for this, ever, competitive or casual its just so restrictive there is no specific environment where this even shines.

chikorita23

chikorita23

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Canada

DOI

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by noocoo
So you just ignore the mod that is "this spell has 20 sec cool down if it hits on the target foe whose health is less than 33%" and call it the best smiting spike elite?

Well, signet judgment + mantra of inscription is much better.
Because a real smiter wouldn't just click WoC so blindless... and even if WoC has conditional longer recharge so?

If you browse smiting skill list... you do realize there are spear of light, banish and other smiting spell which u can combine with WoC right?

Just like air spiker u don't just blindly clip ur elite spell without other skills.

WoC easily combine with banish, smite, spear of light, or even bane signet. U don't even need mesmer or any other 2nd profession's support to boost or fast recharge the elite itself.

I'm not saying I don't like Signet of Judgement, it's just WoC are far away from being useless.

I'd also wanna comment on one of the post about Air elite Gust! Gust is very tricky to use...but if u use it right it's one of the best air elite!! What I do is using a cheap water hex such as Rust + Gust + Fetid Ground. It work nicely in both pve and pvp! (its fun too!)

l337 nuker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmanka
That Peace and Harmony/Heal Party spammer in RA is better then 50% of the monks in there. That skill cannot be THAThorrible.

I'd have to agree, marksmans wager is definitely one of the worst out there. I will never see a use for this, ever, competitive or casual its just so restrictive there is no specific environment where this even shines.
Well, I suppose Peace and Harmony can have its uses. I was on the Venta Cemetery mission and the other monk in the party was using Peace and Harmony on Olias (Who was set up for MM) and it seemed his combat mode was set to "avoid combat".

But seriously, a paltry +1 energy regeneration? I once saw this monk who kept using PaH on Koss...who of course was set to "attack".

Moral of the story? SET YOUR HEROES TO AVOID COMBAT BEFORE USING IT ON THEM

Your Lucky I Heal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Ryders of the Sword (FrNd)

Rt/Mo

Worst skill is Vengeance. I don't even think it counts as a rez. Total nub skill ever.

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

Worst skill has to be scavenger's focus. Other bad skills can be played around with to get some convoluted use out of them, however mediocre it may be. SV is the worst not because it's doesn't do anything, but because for every conceivable use for it, there's another skill that does the same thing but better and isn't an elite. Hence there is no possible situation where you would ever take it as your elite, making it completely useless.

GalaKnight

GalaKnight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Silvite Warriors

N/Me

Uh, Unknown Siege Wurm Elite duh.

BryanM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Your Lucky I Heal
Worst skill is Vengeance. I don't even think it counts as a rez. Total nub skill ever.
More like total awesome skill.

Alt F Four

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

RSPT

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by firekil
I can't believe nobody mentioned Signet Of Agony. Its like a much worse version of chillblains.

Sacrifice 10% maximum health and suffer from bleeding for 25 seconds. All nearby foes take 10...37 damage.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Signet_of_Agony
Except for the fact that's the only way a Necromancer can get ahold of Bleeding to transfer, if my memory serves me. And look at the cast time. I remember it was abused for something back in the day, but I forget.

And to the people who are bashing Scavenger's Focus, I'm fairly sure that it's + damage, which ignores armor.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

Regardless of armour ignoring damage, it blows - why waste your elite for a damage prep? That's conditional.

Oh yeah, this is the most useless skill [skill]Eviscerate[/skill] needs a major buff, it's so stupid.

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

eh? deep wound + damage = 100+ equiv in a single blow.

l337 nuker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

In addition to [card]Peace and Harmony[/card], I must agree with the OP that [card]"The Power Is Yours!"[/card] is pretty bad as well.

Think about it. If a support Paragon wishes to use that skill with Nukers, he would need 4 shouts of "The Power Is Yours!" at 12 Motivation to sustain 1 Rodgort's Invocation, assuming the nukers were at 0 energy.

And in the meantime, -10 energy degeneration? Come on, if you absolutely HAVE to use that skill then use it at 0 energy.

Franco Power

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill]
[skill]Burning Arrow[/skill]
[skill]Eviscerate[/skill]
[skill]Mantra Of Recovery[/skill]
[skill]Icy Shackles[/skill]
[skill]Spoil Victor[/skill]


[skill]Shadow Prison[/skill]
[skill]Weapon of Remedy[/skill]

[skill]Crippling Anthem[/skill]
[skill]Avatar Of Grenth[/skill]

Those are the worst skills ever in GW!!

djbartek

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Weapon of Remedy!?!?
Avatar of Grenth!?!?
No comments...

phallanxian

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

all the shock axe warriors and zb monks will be shocked by that list as well

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by djbartek
Weapon of Remedy!?!?
Avatar of Grenth!?!?
No comments...
Quote:
Originally Posted by phallanxian
all the shock axe warriors and zb monks will be shocked by that list as well
Wtf is a sarcasm!!!111shiftone!??

Lovely Sparks

Lovely Sparks

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

Order of the Exiles

Me/

Euuh Franco Power , can you please explain why those skills are so bad?
Because i find some of them pretty good.

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

She is clearly joking, or maybe she doesn't like them because some are overused.

Strange Guy

Strange Guy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

MI, USA

Is Gwen Eighteen [yet]

Mo/Me

>_^ Suicide Elite on Warrior Eh?. Hmm You should make it like this. "Make ALL creatures in the area become human type and you die!." Lawl! Go to the Deep, EoE up, Suicide everyone? KI Ki ki.....!!! Will provide so much fun for at least 3-4 days!

Franco Power

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovely Sparks
Euuh Franco Power , can you please explain why those skills are so bad?
Because i find some of them pretty good.
zb= a pratically free 200hp heal if your target is below 50 in the prot line, which gives prot monks some direct healing besides gift of health, low recharge.

Burning= low recharge, unconditional dmg + burning, with apply can cause pressure is easy and also great character to split. Burning/apply , few interrupts and mending touch.

Eviscerate= 33dmg + deep wound, who would use this for spiking??

Mantra of recovery= why would a mesmer need this with conjure phantasm, it's not like anyone uses Diversion or Drain enchantment.

Icy shackles= who cares about snares anyway

Spoil Victor= lol, little 100 dmg, shutdown and very long duration, who cares, no one plays necros anyway

Shadow Prison= just shadow stepping, aura of displacement is better, again who cares about snaring.

Weapon of remedy= low recharge skill, low energy, loses condition and only steals up to 80 health??

Crippling Anthem= who cares about crippling, this skill also sucks in a pressure build with meele characters, if they can't catch you without crippling then warriors should use sprint

Avatar Of Grenth= no one uses enchantments anyway (except mending maybe), so this avatar is useless, I'd rather have avatar of balthazar for the armor and also he looks cooler lol

DeBron

DeBron

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

MD

^ I find the sarcasam entertaining.

BryanM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Maybe worst in the sense of "worst FOR the game." I'm tired of seeing Dismiss Condition, seriously.

Signet of Agony got some use when we all were trying out Dark Aura. But dealing DPS around the same as an auto attack warrior in adjacent range with terrible armor turned out not being worth killing ourselves over.