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Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 16:14 - 1

Well, having now signed up as an Elite Guru Supporter to do this poll, i hope it's worth it.

As is stated in another poll, it seems that ANet is of the impression that we want a new set of mini-pets as a second birthday pressie for our 2 year old characters.

For some this is fine and desired, but it does seem that this is NOT want is wanted by the majority.

The previous poll covering this only goes so far as to say yes or no. I have decided to expand on this and i have included what seem to have been the most popular ideas on many other threads covering this subject. These do not represent my personal choices or opinion, but are taken from previously suggested ideas.
This way, we can really get a true idea of what is in fact the most popular suggestion. I know that i will have missed some suggestions and i apologise if your's was one of them.

Please do post your thoughts, if for nothing else but to keep this thread current.

Thanks for your time and i'm really curious to see the most popular idea.

Ferret

P.S. I just wanted to add that i do appreciate we get a present at all for our characters, as ANet certainly do not have to do anything. If it is finally a mini-pet regardless, i'd still be thankful, but it would be nice to think the most popular option was at least seriously considered and reasons given why it could not be implimented.

Other ideas voted on:

Disguises - 7

Hair Change Token - 2

Face Change Token - 1

Extra (special) Hero - 1

Special PvE only Skill - 1

Nothing at all - 6

Gold - 1

New Underwear (or none!!!) - 1

Corran Horn

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Alliance of Xen

R/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 16:40 - 2

You left out the best one! Disguises!

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

02 Mar 2007 at 16:41 - 3

Mods, close the other thread.

I'd take a veteran title.

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 16:55 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corran Horn

You left out the best one! Disguises!

Sorry, i knew there'd be at least one i'd miss. It could potentially come under a special suit of max armor (as it'd have to be a clothing set).

The other i missed off was Mounts, but that was delibrate because that just wont happen as a birthday pressie. That is such a major upgrade, it'd be something far more in the realms of a new feature for chpt 4.

Avoc

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

02 Mar 2007 at 16:58 - 5

Personally, a hairdresser ticket. Alternativly, age title + emote.
Though I'm pretty glad we're getting anything.

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

02 Mar 2007 at 17:02 - 6

Everyone loves auras.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 17:03 - 7

Disguises.

Or gold.Since chances are the smartest of the two year old characters will be selling the minipets.

Seltack

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

None, currently LFG

W/

02 Mar 2007 at 17:28 - 8

Nameable weapons?

Think of the hilarity, "I'm wielding (rude word)"...

How can we not vote for that?

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

02 Mar 2007 at 17:40 - 9

Boss aura FTW!!!!

ctbear

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/

02 Mar 2007 at 17:40 - 10

Facial appearance change and/or name change

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

02 Mar 2007 at 17:53 - 11

Hair dresser, please.

RodyPA

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Life With The Thrill Kill Kult [Kult]

R/

02 Mar 2007 at 17:54 - 12

I had suggested specialty heroes before. I'd much rather something both relatively unique, and actually usable. A title would to a degree fit that, as it would count towards the titles title. Still, not terribly useful overall. Storage is nice, but I'd hate for expanded storage to only come out when your character hits two (I can imagine the hue and cry). Weapons and armor fall into the same kind of flash as mini-pets to me.

At the same time, I wouldn't want the heroes to be like Razah, where you fill a missing gap with an elite hero. Something like a third ranger, warrior or monk would be excellent. I had suggested something like a Charr Shaman or Fire Caller, or perhaps a dwarf or even a Rurik (although a King Adelbern was suggested to me later - get them both and have them go at it: "You not Adelbern son!").

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

02 Mar 2007 at 18:08 - 13

I voted for the token. I get something special and pretty much a guarantee that I'll like it.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

02 Mar 2007 at 18:30 - 14

I fully support your right to create and vote in a poll, and your interest in doing so. But I cannot help but mention that many of the requests in that poll are truly not possible as birthday presents. We are working on... other things. Those... other things mean that team members are assigned to significant, time-consuming, and extremely valuable tasks. We must focus on the future while supporting the present, and the presents, too.

So while I appreciate the thoughts behind many of these excellent ideas, they are, unfortunately, unrealistic requests and will not be possible as a 2nd birthday present. That is not because we don't want to give them, but because (1) we have time constraints that would not allow their implementation by April 28th, (2) they are features or elements that we intend or hope to offer all players, not just birthday celebrants, or (3) they demand too many resources that are, for the good of the game and the good for the entire playerbase, best focused elsewhere.

I hope this note isn't discouraging -- that's not at all my intention! I'm offering these words only to let you know about some of the realities that we face -- as devs and as players -- and to ask for your support. Player polls are great, and they do help us learn a lot, as long as "wish" doesn't become "demand" or "unfulfilled promise." Thanks for understanding.

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 18:36 - 15

Thanks Gaile for your input, it is much appreciated.

It does leave me with one question though, does that mean it will DEFINATELY be a new mini-pet set, or are some of the above still possible?

I'm sure auras or visual ideas would not take any more work than pets, or am i wrong?

Thank you again for your participation.

Ferret

Tiny Biscuit

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

02 Mar 2007 at 18:56 - 16

The French new Community manager currently compile suggestions about the second birthday issue with Anet, in order to send them.

No big hopes, but he tries to help us

.

Source.

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

02 Mar 2007 at 18:56 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferret

I'm sure auras or visual ideas would not take any more work than pets, or am i wrong?
Ferret

My professional opinion? You're wrong. I mean that politely, though.

See, the nifty thing about minipets is that they take exactly ZERO work, art-wise. No new models, no new textures, no new animations, practically no new programming. They're simply scaled versions of already existing assets with a standard minipet AI applied.

Unless Anet has the WORST system in the world for adding things to their game, minis must be absolute cheese to add by the handfuls.

On top of that, they're groovy! ^_^

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

02 Mar 2007 at 19:00 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I fully support your right to create and vote in a poll, and your interest in doing so. But I cannot help but mention that many of the requests in that poll are truly not possible as birthday presents. We are working on... other things. Those... other things mean that team members are assigned to significant, time-consuming, and extremely valuable tasks. We must focus on the future while supporting the present, and the presents, too.

Ahh! I think I am beginning to see the light! So what you Really mean, Is that the devs are working on something really sweet for chapter 4? Hell, I'd take a piece of coal for my second b-day if Chapter 4 is cooler than prophecies!

Just, Well, do whatever. I frankly don't care. GW rocks, and I don't play because I get b-day presents every year.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

02 Mar 2007 at 19:03 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retribution X

And, So, in short, our ideas suck and minis were kickass? Sorry, but that's what I'm understanding from that.

And you are wrong, and willfully so, from the appearance of the rest of your post.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

02 Mar 2007 at 19:08 - 20

I am pretty sure that disguises would be easy to add too (considering we saw player model change on several occasions with no serious side efects (rollerbeetle disguise, jududndu, twice in missions, transmogrifier tonics (!!) ) )

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

02 Mar 2007 at 19:08 - 21

I vote for rare hoh only weapons u can get :P

i always get sigils and no reavers wtf -.-

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

02 Mar 2007 at 19:11 - 22

Once again and to clarify, since some seem to think we've said more than we've said, the message in our initial casual question (not a poll, you'll note) was not to say, "The Second Birthday Present will be miniatures." We have only asked what miniatures would be desired if we do offer those as the gift or -- consider this! -- if we add more for other purposes.

And just to clarify, some of the ideas in this poll are do-able, some are not. I only caution that we all take an open-minded approach, so that no one gets locked into a certain notion and cannot see the value of any other.

Simple message there. I hope no one is confused or concerned about it. Thanks for reading.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 19:12 - 23

I think we should all remember that A-Net doesn't have the necessary resources or time to complete some of our requests. (Like my Hall of Fame idea) but making mini pets seem to be the fastest way to complete our second birthday gifts since they're focusing on Chapter 4 not to mention updates for the existing chapters.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

02 Mar 2007 at 19:16 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Once again and to clarify, since some seem to think we've said more than we've said, the message in our initial casual question (not a poll, you'll note) was not to say, "The Second Birthday Present will be miniatures." We have only asked what miniatures would be desired if we do offer those as the gift or -- consider this! -- if we add more for other purposes.

And just to clarify, some of the ideas in this poll are do-able, some are not. I only caution that we all take an open-minded approach, so that no one gets locked into a certain notion and cannot see the value of any other.

Simple message there. I hope no one is confused or concerned about it. Thanks for reading.

I realise the Pressie hasn't yet been decided yet, but, if you would kindly state which things we've been asking for is out-of-the-question, I'd be much obliged.

Sorry to sound harsh in my last post, but I also drew from this, "What sort of new miniatures that you would like to see in the game?" which to me, is pretty much stating that we will get minis. (Which, I am not averse to, I'm just annoyed with all the whining "I didn't get what I wanted!!!"...)

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

02 Mar 2007 at 19:20 - 25

The special aura would rock so much!

Minis? I received 4 last year.

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

02 Mar 2007 at 19:32 - 26

I put token, but want to add the option of a new charmable pet or hero with all professions (like the presumed original design for razah).

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

02 Mar 2007 at 19:39 - 27

I'd like to hear what is not doable please?

(off topic)... i was thinking about dances.Why cant any profession dance like the other? id really want to try paragon dance on my warrior!^_^

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

02 Mar 2007 at 19:46 - 28

I have a feeling it's these.

One pet, but a mini-pet of your character.
A Special Aura/Visual (that can be toggled on and off).
A Max Weapon that you can name (perfect stats and fully upgradeable).
Access to a special suit of Max Armor.
A set of Neon Dyes (probably 7, so you can dyes all armor parts plus weapon and off-hand).
A new Emote (maybe a new dance).

I might be wrong, but I have a feeling those might take more time than they want to use. ESP Emote and Mini-me

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

02 Mar 2007 at 19:50 - 29

The rune of holding would really give some people an advantage, and offset the economy ALOT.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 20:01 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retribution X

I have a feeling it's these.

One pet, but a mini-pet of your character.
A Special Aura/Visual (that can be toggled on and off).
A Max Weapon that you can name (perfect stats and fully upgradeable).
Access to a special suit of Max Armor.
A set of Neon Dyes (probably 7, so you can dyes all armor parts plus weapon and off-hand).
A new Emote (maybe a new dance).

I might be wrong, but I have a feeling those might take more time than they want to use. ESP Emote and Mini-me

Don't forget Hall of Fame island for players in their second birthday would be hard to do in short time frame.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

02 Mar 2007 at 20:44 - 31

I think the spectral wings are my favorite idea (maybe you could pick the type you want from avian, gossiemer, etc) but the max weapon or special armor would be nice too.

greendc27

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Wisconsin

Gaming Continuum [GCon]

R/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 20:52 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Once again and to clarify, since some seem to think we've said more than we've said, the message in our initial casual question (not a poll, you'll note) was not to say, "The Second Birthday Present will be miniatures." We have only asked what miniatures would be desired if we do offer those as the gift or -- consider this! -- if we add more for other purposes.

And just to clarify, some of the ideas in this poll are do-able, some are not. I only caution that we all take an open-minded approach, so that no one gets locked into a certain notion and cannot see the value of any other.

Simple message there. I hope no one is confused or concerned about it. Thanks for reading.

Would it be possible for you to tell us which ones can't be done. Doesn't make much sense for us to vote for something thats not possible.

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

02 Mar 2007 at 21:18 - 33

I vote for [None of the above] and to be more to the point I think there should be NO B-day present at all.

Last year Anet made a nice gesture that was a surprise to all [roll forward less than 1 year] and most of what I see,not all but most is a bunch of spoiled brats telling them what they should get rather than being happy and thankful for getting anything at all for doing absolutely nothing!

It was a nice enough idea last year but perhaps Anet should forget the idea of B-day presents / Free chests / Weekend events or anything else they may wish to do to be nice for the players, since as so many of you point out on a regular basis "No good deed goes unpunished"

Now all of you GO TO YOUR ROOM!

yasmina

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

NY

E/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 21:21 - 34

Well, all the ideas of what people would like to see for the 2nd Birthday present was a nice idea but from what Gaile has already stated we are only going to get a mini pet, I just say once again please do not have any very rare mini pet that 1 out of 1000 people get and give everyone else a ordinary run of the mill common pet, if you are going to give out mini's make sure they are all gold or all common, maybe also give us a choice on which mini we would like when you double click on the gift box. Making one person feel special and someone else feel like they weren't lucky enough to get a rare birthday gift was abit unfair.

Messy

huh?

Join Date: Jun 2005

Follow the rainbow, make a left and voila

Guildless

R/

02 Mar 2007 at 22:18 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by greendc27

Would it be possible for you to tell us which ones can't be done. Doesn't make much sense for us to vote for something thats not possible.

You might want to scroll back and maybe then you will see Gaile didn't start the poll, she respects the posting of the poll but it doesn't mean that the items in the poll are viable at this time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixdartbart

Last year Anet made a nice gesture that was a surprise to all [roll forward less than 1 year] and most of what I see,not all but most is a bunch of spoiled brats telling them what they should get rather than being happy and thankful for getting anything at all for doing absolutely nothing!

/signed

I think that most of these ideas should be shared on the original thread posted by Gaile http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10124585 2nd Birthday Ideas? . By making a poll, even if it reflects the items that most people want, it will create confusion, and lead people to think that we will actually get whatever we vote on, and if we don't get it.... time to complain again!!!

I really wish people would realize these are all extras ANET gives us, not because THEY HAVE TO, but because THEY WANT TO. Be grateful and happy with what you get, enjoy it, and have fun, instead of complaining about it.

Mr_Coffee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Montreal, Canada

Legends Reborn

E/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 22:19 - 36

.. a bunny to tame so I have a reason to make a ranger.

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

W/

02 Mar 2007 at 22:24 - 37

An armbrace of truth would be very easy on A-net's limited resourses, Gaile. :P

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

02 Mar 2007 at 22:42 - 38

I really wish people would learn to read. Gaile originally asked (in another post), what kind of mini's would you like to see and everyone started their wish list with all kinds of other crap. If you don't want a mini, then don't reply to the thread. Don't clutter it up with stuff everyone else has been whinning about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsmcasey

Mods, close the other thread.

I seriously doubt that will happen since it was Gaile who started the thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixdartbart

I vote for [None of the above] and to be more to the point I think there should be NO B-day present at all.

Last year Anet made a nice gesture that was a surprise to all [roll forward less than 1 year] and most of what I see,not all but most is a bunch of spoiled brats telling them what they should get rather than being happy and thankful for getting anything at all for doing absolutely nothing!

It was a nice enough idea last year but perhaps Anet should forget the idea of B-day presents / Free chests / Weekend events or anything else they may wish to do to be nice for the players, since as so many of you point out on a regular basis "No good deed goes unpunished"

Now all of you GO TO YOUR ROOM!

Very good point Bart and one that I agree with. I am so tired of the whinning and stuff when really, anet doesn't have to do anything and they do just to be nice. People don't appreciate nice so like you said, just stop doing anything.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

02 Mar 2007 at 22:48 - 39

If there is no mini pets, would we be having this discussion now?

Mars Dragonblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Awesometon.

Ministry of Fate [MoF]

W/

02 Mar 2007 at 23:08 - 40

I voted the custom made weapon, because I think it's more practical than some pretty lights around your character that nearly everyone and their minipet will have by the next week. I personally would like some nice weapons (skin of choice?) custom made to my liking that's named after my characters because it's a one of a kind hand made item of sentimental value that you can say you're proud of. Plus, since you did say "upgradeable" in the options does this mean that you could always change the stats to whatever you like when you want to? I can picture all of my ideal weapons already

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