Detailed Second Birthday Present Poll

tre_peter

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Northern Ireland

A new skill (PvE only), that is super-powerful and godly. (So the character gets to go through games easier). Put farming restrictions on it or something (like no drops when using it).

I'd love to click a button and nuke everything, would be highly satisfying. I'd just walk around RoT getting revenge.

I know it is very unrealistic, I'm just dreaming. (Though I think the skill idea is good, along the lines of the lightbringer skills).

greendc27

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Wisconsin

Gaming Continuum [GCon]

R/Mo

I personally like the idea of a title like veteran or something. It wouldn't appect the game at all, would probably be easy for them to put in and is still something not everyone would have. I'm sure some people would complain about it affecting the KOABD title but if you've had a character that long chances are you've already got a good start on it.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

i think the token/book/amulet idea like u get at the end of fractions anf nf is the best idea to choose a new weapon

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Once again and to clarify, since some seem to think we've said more than we've said, the message in our initial casual question (not a poll, you'll note) was not to say, "The Second Birthday Present will be miniatures." We have only asked what miniatures would be desired if we do offer those as the gift or -- consider this! -- if we add more for other purposes.

And just to clarify, some of the ideas in this poll are do-able, some are not. I only caution that we all take an open-minded approach, so that no one gets locked into a certain notion and cannot see the value of any other.

Simple message there. I hope no one is confused or concerned about it. Thanks for reading.
Thanks for the clarification Gaile and point noted. It's nice to see you taking an active role in this poll and i'm sorry that some people seemed to have a negative approach to your comments.

They have been helpful and i'm glad that you have at least given this poll some serious consideration.

Much appreciated,

Ferret

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dont Mess WithMe
I really wish people would realize these are all extras ANET gives us, not because THEY HAVE TO, but because THEY WANT TO. Be grateful and happy with what you get, enjoy it, and have fun, instead of complaining about it.
Please read my initial post in detail and you will see that i have already said as much, but it is only thorugh means such as this that Gaile and other at ANet get to hear what regular players would like to se in game. This does not mean that this is a demand or that if it doesnt happen then ANet are bad, but a set of ideas and their popularity...or not in some cases.

I thank you for giving your opinion on the matter and your point has been noted.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I voted other, but in truth i would like almost any of them except for mini-pets.
It just screams "easy way out" in every way.

It's what they do for everything now. every event, every special prize.
and because of that, it will be almost impossible to ever get a complete set of them as they are releasing new ones every couple of weeks on average.

And if you do go for mini-pets which you probably will, then at least give us a chance to chose which one we actually want. don't give us something random. please.

think of it as getting someone a gift card instead of a random video game that the person might or might not like

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Disguises, definately. Should be easy to program, since there is already disguises in the game (Candy Corn, Elves, Corsair Disguise, Kournan Soldier Disguise, Wurm). Just need to make it an unlimited use "Double-click to use, Double-click again to put away"-style item that's tradeable, like minipets.

Plus, it's just so darn cool. I'd much rather have that than a mini, aura, wings, or anything else on that list.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

disguises please ... i picked the last one for disguises

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

I vote for the aura/visual effect. It's like the CE Divine Aura. Great way to flash your seniority, without taking up inventory space or being too dull.

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

I vote for Disguises. It's realistic. They already have items that can change a player's appearance (Transmogrifier Tonics and Yuletide Tonics). And I understand completely that certain animations have not yet been programmed into the game for a lot of the enemy models. Solution A: Make them only useable within outposts. That way, all they'd have to program would be a few emotes. Solution B: Disable all skills and attacks while in your disguise. What animations are there that don't require the activation of a skill or the command to attack, save emotes? (Moving from point A to point B has already been programmed into the game for literally every model in the game)

So, in Conclusion: Vote for Disguises

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

The ability to have seven heroes in my group. Barring that, skill selection for the hench. What idiot thought Charge was a good idea for most of the warriors?

Gustin

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/

actually I love the warrior henchies using Charge. Helps speed things up, esspecially if I'm doing some map uncoverage for cartographer title...but that's off topic.

I wouldn't mind disguises either. Seems like a great alternative to minipets and a lot funner and easy to implement.

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

I'd like to see something that nobody can buy into.

Minipets for example - great - but I don't like the way people could buy into them.

I voted for the veteran title - as it's one of the few things that people cannot buy into.

One thing I DO NOT want is ascetics/items that make people jealous. I have fell victim in the past where I was made very jealous over something I could not obtain soon/at all.
I sound like i'm contradicting myself - but let me explain.

-A title is just something to show that you have had that character since day 1 (or 2 years -post 28April). Nothing too big or to small. (Shouldn't count for PKM or KoABD)
-Something like a 1337 set of max armor that only veterans have access to would be over the top- It would make many players jealous and sometimes jealousy leads to leaving games.


I hope you understand my point
-Ashleigh

Important Edit to Gaile: Will there be any love for 'account is 2 years old?' I've had the game since before day 1 but only one of my characters is 24 months old. (Probably 2 days less than 24 months as of 28th April due to remake)

kimahri

kimahri

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

E/

I voted on a title but now that I see Hair Change Token as a alternative I think I should have voted for that one, I need one of those since my ele's FoW set will cute through his hair .

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

The title will be perfect for me. But if added, it must show in 1 year characters too.

Veteran (1) / 1 year.
Fierce Veteran (2) / 2 years.
Mighty Veteran (3) / 3 years.

.. or whatever another name, I don't care to much about the name of the title.

Anyway, the 2 years "gift" could be anything; The title idea is an add-on (not the gift)

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Hmm a token or probaly some signet of capture armor wich can duplicate a armor worn by a humanoid enemy of your class?

Cough White Mantle Knights kuch

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marth Reynolds
Hmm a token or probaly some signet of capture armor wich can duplicate a armor worn by a humanoid enemy of your class?

Cough White Mantle Knights kuch
Nah, I want a helmet like in your avatar

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

What about a mini-mini pet for your mini-pet?

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I fully support your right to create and vote in a poll, and your interest in doing so. But I cannot help but mention that many of the requests in that poll are truly not possible as birthday presents. We are working on... other things. Those... other things mean that team members are assigned to significant, time-consuming, and extremely valuable tasks. We must focus on the future while supporting the present, and the presents, too.

So while I appreciate the thoughts behind many of these excellent ideas, they are, unfortunately, unrealistic requests and will not be possible as a 2nd birthday present. That is not because we don't want to give them, but because (1) we have time constraints that would not allow their implementation by April 28th, (2) they are features or elements that we intend or hope to offer all players, not just birthday celebrants, or (3) they demand too many resources that are, for the good of the game and the good for the entire playerbase, best focused elsewhere.

I hope this note isn't discouraging -- that's not at all my intention! I'm offering these words only to let you know about some of the realities that we face -- as devs and as players -- and to ask for your support. Player polls are great, and they do help us learn a lot, as long as "wish" doesn't become "demand" or "unfulfilled promise." Thanks for understanding.

there is always birthday 3 . IMO the weapon idea is the best ONLY if its customised!

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Nothing.
People should stop expecting things to be handed to them.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

argh, decisions, decisions!!!! welllll weeeee NEED more storage so I voted for that, but the perfect weapon would be great too.......though my 2nd bday isnt until august so I have a while to wait, but lots of my toons are coming up on first bdays....so more minis for sale!

Shigernafy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Temple of the Ages

R/

I voted on the bigger storage, I think everyone would benefit from that, but I dont think it should be restricted to just older players. Everything else just seems like a 'waste of time,' for lack of a better phrase.
All these nifty little minipets ruin a portion of this game by taking away some of the magic, but this is a small price to pay for the enjoyment of this game, (not to mention 'free')
This is all in my opinion of course, and I dont mean to sound like a bad guy here, but I really hope they stop with the mini pets, and ignore the diguises, special aura, and wings idea, for the sake of mine, and perhaps other people's enjoyment.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cash.

This is to fill the extra space..12 ftl

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
Nothing.
People should stop expecting things to be handed to them.
If this would stop the morons from popping up and saying they want ridiculous things for their "birthday" and think its all "Soooo easy to do" then I'm for it. Just make the retardation subside please...

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

I always wondered how a lvl 6 mob in old ascalon had a power aura while I, a lvl 20 ele which just by snapping my fingers can easily destroy him and all his lackeys around him don't.

I had proposed this to be available only to lvl 20, PvE chars. I would like to add that there should be no auras in PvP (lag).

Storage would always be my second option as currently I have loads of "junk golds" in my inventories.

Nexus Icon

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

I seem to remember Gaile saying last year that the second borthday present would be something completely different, so I really do hope that they don't cop out and give us minipets again.
As to what that should be, my expectations are probably unrealistic:
A special town or area for 2 year old characters.
Unique customised armour (maybe with mods that can be customised at will while in town?).
Unique customised weapons (again, being able to select mods at will would be kickass).
In-town skills, things that can be used whenever you're in town and provide effects much like the tonics from events.

Takuna

Takuna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

That was one vry tough choice... but in the end, I went with an aura/visual that can be turned off. That being mainly because I was going to get Prophecies collector's until I found out DA couldn't be turned off.

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

Thanks for your continued support for this poll and for all opinions posted, be they positive or negative, at least they make this an objective exercise.

Ferret

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

let 2 year olds use the J button

yea for tokens... pro-choice... wooo...

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

The title, or some kind of special birthday hat would be cool, just so you have something to show that you've been playing for that amount of time. The pets are cool and all, but they're traded around so much they don't really mean anything.

I'd also really like the ability to name weapons, after using "Shak-Jarins sword" and "Shiro's sword", etc for most of the game, it's pretty neat when you finally manage to make your own perfect weapon, being able to name it would be a great finishing touch, but I fully understand why they haven't added that in. Maybe it would work if it just took your characters name infront of the weapon name though?

Deadly SiNs

Deadly SiNs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

England

Farmers Union [CASH]

W/Mo

Disguises ^^
You could run around as a Charr or something :P

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

Honestly as long as it isn't another mini and whatever it ends up being is customized I will be happy haha.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

My 2nd birthday pressie well gosh I mean not socks obviously but it should be a surprise.
So really any of the above but minipet at the bottom of my list.

However if it could be done I would like my characters face to age, I mean just look at us everyone is pretty good looking its like all the boy/girl bands got together for a convention.
Doubt it would be possible though probably too complicated to work in practice.

Gremlin

AW Lore

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

as things are, i bet that it will be another mini pet series, prolly for the third birthday it might be something diferent, but not this one. unless they give a mini pet + something else, but i doubt it.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

I guess I'd like a class based aura. Like monster bosses. Yellow for warriors, green for necs, blue for monks etc. After all, surely by now we'd have more power than all the bosses we killed. Make it that you have to be ascended to get it though (or finished x missions), so that you can't just make a mule and stick it in the monastery/kamadan for two years. That way you'd at least have played it some.

But otherwise, I don't really care what we get. It's free after all.

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

Good to see the votes coming in...no more input from Gaile though

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

The title option is really cool, But I love mini-pets, and I also like the idea of the hair/face change tokens, But I would love to see that as a feature for everyone.

I really like that title idea though, that is an awesome idea

Archangel Xavier

Archangel Xavier

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

New Orleans, Denver, Chicago all over

All your favorite bands suck

W/P

<--- I voted wings, they kind of go with my character. I REALLY think that there should special access to an Ancient Heroes Hall (semi-reference to halls of valhalla)

Here's my take on the other options
1) No minipets simply because its already been done. At least make them customized
2) Mini me could be bearable but still useless
3) Special Aura I like it and may have voted for it if it weren't for the 3 people with the CE who would whine about it.
5) They should just make any weapon you customize able to be custom named by you
6) Special suit of armor simply wont happen and wouldn't be very exciting if it were the same cookie-cutter stats as the other armor
7) Neon Dyes sound more like a minigame prize than "I've played for 2 years" prize (if wintersday can bring you what it does, 2nd birthday should be greater than dye)
8) A new emote could be cool, but it would have to be farely distinctive. more like a rank type emote than a dance or sit emote
9) A title is a good Idea, but without the ability to max it, Devs would be reluctant to call it a title or even use that idea.
10) The token would be great. Nothing wrong with it except I didn't bother voting for it because it's too hard to implement especially in such a short amount of time and the idea of the gift might lose its focus with all the options.
11) Any storage upgrade needs to be global. That would be such a ridiculously valuable present. If they gave it to us in present form then you can bet theyd never expand the stash again.

I like these threads because we get to see some interesting and somewhat outrageous extras we'd like to have in the game. I'd just like to see them use any of one our suggestions....except minipets.

beanerman_99

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

I voted for a Special Aura.

I also think that any gift they give us should be customized to that character only....just like the festival hats. I don't think that people should be able to sell the gift that Anet takes the time to give us just to make some quick cash. Its supposed to be special so if you don't want it throw it away, not sell it.

my 2 cents.

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

basically:

1) festival hats are no good, they can be given to ALL the toons you own
2) Same with storage, it affects ALL the toons you own
3) the title could never be maxed, as archangel mentioned
4) wings are kinda the paragon thing... <_<... why would they just give it out to a random class?
5) Hair or cosmetics should be a universal thing... that would be weird if they only gave it to 2 year old chars...

so IMHO its either the aura or the minipet... and anet seems to enjoy minipets so... as much as i hate to say it...