"Fresh Guild Wars announced" From the Inquirer!

xiko

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

LBR

N/

gdc started today. I believe on the info from inquirer

Kyuuba

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

MAGE Elites

Rt/P

the inquirer isn't a very trustworthy source, they have a lot of new that is way ahead of its time and eventually falls apart the closer it gets to the actual release dates.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
Anyone considered AN may have leaked this info themselves, to create loads of hype ready for the PC gamer reveal. Then when reveal day comes and most of this info is wrong, everyone will be at fever pitch about it and so the marketing campaign will be more visible than if they had just kept quiet.
Hype a game up before release is not a good idea. It raises people's expectation and people will be disappointed when the game does not meet their expectation. This causes their user rating to go down

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

lets take a look at time zones

when Gaile got up this morning and saw this garbage the head honchos on the other side of the world were in bed.

do you wake up the big cheese over some internet trash or do you leave them a message to get back to you as soon as they can?

i expect Gaile/Alex to be getting facts to respond with a definite answer from higher ups rather than saying this is complete news to us here at Anet.

what is really scary in that in a few years these instant believers will be able to vote in elections.

Pan Head

Pan Head

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/R

I cant believe this thread has been on for over 12 hours and it is 17 pages long and nothing from an official. Looks like they would at least give us something. even if is was a checking to varify the infor or something.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
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Why make a new game engine, when every GW is a standalone game? Not to mention they have changed the engine slightly evey time a new GW comes out.

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There is only so much that you can do to upgrade an engine. The original structure doesn't change. Building new stuff from ground start can make a big difference.

antialias02

antialias02

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Eastern Iowa

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Me/E

Someone was claiming earlier that the WHOIS info for "Eyeofthenorth.com" doesn't go back to NCSoft or ArenaNet. The funny thing is that the information doesn't really belong to "PrivacyPost.com". It's a protected WHOIS listing.

Meaning that whoever registered it doesn't want anybody to know they own it.

Interesting.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

(ive only actually read 4 pages so far but...)

If this is true, i am EXTREMELY happy about the title, i have been wishing that chapter 4 is in a snowy area, i think i will enjoy this game for a long time...definetly until the gw2 beta comes out!

Chadatog

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
and especially "armour" wtf?

Actually Armour is the british spelling of Armor. So it is gramatically correct, concidering the inquirer is a british online game news site.

Link

The more you know.

Voltaire

Voltaire

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Chicago-ish

Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP]

A/

Count me among the skeptics for all the reasons users have listed prior. Still the article was a nice way to revitalize interest -- just as long as its taken, as another poster said, with an iceberg of salt.

Oh, and playable Asurian race? first few times I read that I thought it said Austrian. Haha now that's something I could get behind.

Ritual del Fuego

Ritual del Fuego

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

CA

Frogs in Winter [FiW]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Hype a game up before release is not a good idea. It raises people's expectation and people will be disappointed when the game does not meet their expectation. This causes their user rating to go down
But Sales still go up. Your suggestion goes against everything that is marketing. If you don't hype something because you think you will dissapoint people, find a new product. Hype = Sales. Sales = profits (assuming you are making margins). Now, for long term profits you need to have a good product, but you should never not hype something just in case people don't like it. If they don't like it, they will not like it with or without the hype. At least with the hype they purchased your product.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Anyone consider that someone was pulling the reporter's leg on the "details?"

Why would anyone create three new races for an expansion? And the names don't quite ring true. Sylvarians sounds like someone's idea of a racial name for elves. I would think if ANet wanted to give GW playable non-human races, they already have several in the game from which to choose.

And the "massive" 150 skills. Does anyone who actually plays GW think that would be a massive amount of added skills.

Expansion requires already-owned chapter - who would buy a game so they could buy and play the expansion. This would not draw new players to the game.

Lower cost expansion - so ANet would be getting less income. As they have no PtP system, this means they would be doing themselves out of the money and not bring new players to the game which is their main income source.

One expansion, then nothing until GW2 release. And how will ANet pay their overhead and development costs during that time?

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

ZOMG!

So excited

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

yes woo hoo!!!!!! I've had factions and nf for a while now (10 months) and i just bought prophesis! this is awesome!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@




















(if it's true)


*edit* if there are new races i think it refered to them for gw2 becasue the expansion will be mostly for lvl 20s so no one would be able to make a new char. unless they were implemented into the other games

*edit* plenty of other games hzve survived for ultiple years without new content (halo 2, that one sci-fi rpg that starts with an A i think)
ok, not the best examples, but i'm sure new content will be added and new accounts will be made. Plus without new games people will have to buy new character slots at 10$ a pop.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
Why would anyone create three new races for an expansion? And the names don't quite ring true. Sylvarians sounds like someone's idea of a racial name for elves. I would think if ANet wanted to give GW playable non-human races, they already have several in the game from which to choose.
You have to read the article more carefully. It claims the new races are coming in GW2, not Eye of the North.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
And the "massive" 150 skills. Does anyone who actually plays GW think that would be a massive amount of added skills.
It's possible (and likely) the author of the article is not a GW player. To an outsider, 150 could sound like a lot of skills.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
They'll prolly merge to one server, like the international districts. So the remaining gw1 players can still play. No need for euro, usa etc servers anymore.

Also if you move on with your character to gw2 (you are not in gw1 anymore, I thought you would figure out that for yourself), you can always make a new character in gw1 if you wanne do an uw run with your friends. Just like people make characters in pre now, to always stay there. I don't see the logic to go back when gw2 is out. You wanne progress with that main character.

In Baldur's gate, if I remember correctly, one could bring over his character to BG2 but not the weapons, armor or gold. So a fresh start but still with your same character you started with a long time ago and that's the point. The feeling that you still play with the same character you're playing with for years then. A true hero you know.

I don't see a problem with the 10 classes, BG did it and even added triple combinations and a few new classes and races too. If they did it 10 years ago, I'm sure the Anet devs can do it now too.

How to survive 100 years? Drink from the fountain of youth people, one of the oldest stories in the fantasy world.
The thing with the Baldur's Gate and the Icewind Dale series is that they all used the Infinity engine. If they were going to make a Guild Wars II, I'm sure they'd make a completely different engine. If they did not make a new engine, then why not just make more campaigns and expansions instead using the existing GW build?

This is just pointing more to the fact that this is all complete hobnobbery. I'm sure ANet would understand that making a sequal so soon would be a bad idea (but that's like 2 years from now. I'll probably be bored by then, but who knows?).

I dunno about the Eye of the North. There *is* a screenshot...but there was also a screenshot of a mini-Lich.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

...Nearly 10:30 PM over here...
...Need to sleep...
...Need official information...
...Time for some caffeine...

Theosebes

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silly Warrior
ZOMG!

So excited
don't be. Smart money says this is complete bunk.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xiko
gdc started today. I believe on the info from inquirer
Except that this was released before GDC got started, so it cannot be information comming out of GDC. Best case scenario is that someone violated a NDC Agreement. More than likely it is complete and total BS

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
By the time GW2 release, the original GW's engine would be outdated anyways. So it doesn't matter.
Dont compare some shallow stuff like s***ty graphics with reall stuff under hood.

were talking data(base) structures, storage+retrieval&migrate algorithms and other fancy stuff.

thats does not age so fast.

bamm bamm bamm

bamm bamm bamm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
Expansion requires already-owned chapter - who would buy a game so they could buy and play the expansion. This would not draw new players to the game.
They don't need to draw new people to a game that's in the process of winding up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
Lower cost expansion - so ANet would be getting less income. As they have no PtP system, this means they would be doing themselves out of the money and not bring new players to the game which is their main income source.?
Their main income source is anyone buying the game, not new people.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
One expansion, then nothing until GW2 release. And how will ANet pay their overhead and development costs during that time?
How do you think any developers manage it? Two years is standard these days. And that's ignoring the fact that they're owned by a huge publisher who funds the beginnings of loads of new IP.

I'm not saying any of this is true, just plausible. If it is made up I don't know whether to be angry or impressed.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

FOUR NEW RACES?!

I'm calling foul. If not, then GW has officially jumped the shark.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
Dont compare some shallow stuff like s***ty graphics with reall stuff under hood.

were talking data(base) structures, storage+retrieval&migrate algorithms and other fancy stuff.

thats does not age so fast.
I'm sure the 2-D gameplay would, though. I hate it that I can aggro monsters on cliffs 10 stories above me...

And isn't Lineage II using the Unreal engine? That's pretty old, ain't it? And look at how successful it still is.

treserious

treserious

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Montreal Canada

Pirate Scum

W/Mo

MWAHAHAHAHA!! some of what he says in the article could be true.

i did a similar whois query on "eyeofthenorth.com" .net, and .org.

my findings for both .net and .com were the same, that they used this privacy post service to hide the whois information.


but, someone did not cover their tracks on the .org.

here is the whois data from my eyeofthenorth.org query

Domain ID140097091-LROR
Domain Name:EYEOFTHENORTH.ORG
Created On:20-Feb-2007 19:42:00 UTC
Last Updated On:20-Feb-2007 19:42:06 UTC
Expiration Date:20-Feb-2008 19:42:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrarotster, Inc. (R34-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant IDOT-SMOKBCN2CZAA
Registrant Name:Christopher Graf
Registrant Organization:NCsoft, Inc. - Austin
Registrant Street1:6801 N Capital of TX Hwy.
Registrant Street2:Bldg. 1, Ste. 102
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Austin
Registrant State/Province:TX
Registrant Postal Code:78731
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.5124984000
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin IDOT-4K6JC74XTMIE
Admin Name:Christopher Graf
Admin Organization:NCsoft, Inc. - Austin
Admin Street1:6801 N Capital of TX Hwy.
Admin Street2:Bldg. 1, Ste. 102
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Austin
Admin State/Province:TX
Admin Postal Code:78731
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.5124984000
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech IDOT-TYQCO37GHV1K
Tech Name:Christopher Graf
Tech Organization:NCsoft, Inc. - Austin
Tech Street1:6801 N Capital of TX Hwy.
Tech Street2:Bldg. 1, Ste. 102
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Austin
Tech State/Province:TX
Tech Postal Code:78731
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.5124984000
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS1.NAMERESOLVE.COM
Name Server:NS2.NAMERESOLVE.COM

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

If the Eye of the North is true... damn its gonna rock for me! I waited for 2 years since the start to push back the charr and see the land they came from and the reasons for invasion.I take it there will be the end to charr-human war at some stage since charr will be selectable race in GW2.^_^ I still want to know how charr females are like, i bet they are so wildly sexy! *drolls* who gonna need human arogant bitches lol.

Oh and btw, i dont think its a good idea posting personal info like that of a NCsofts emploi.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadatog
Actually Armour is the british spelling of Armor. So it is gramatically correct, concidering the inquirer is a british online game news site.
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Yes I know, read back a bit, someone else suggested that as a reason for doubting its authenticity.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Interesting, but can we trust this? I'm normally not that big a skeptic, but I don't believe it that much. Besides, ANet's plan was to keep updating GW with new chapters to the point where it was pointless in doing so. The community is growing even larger and larger, I see no reason to stop soon. We can't go a year and a quarter without more GW goodness! Then again, I was thinking "these guys are crazy if they plan to release 20 chapters".

Mixed reactions here.

flamegrilled cheese

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Genesis Knights

E/Me

Quote:
Last Updated On:20-Feb-2007 19:42:06 UTC
Expiration Date:20-Feb-2008 19:42:00 UTC
Registrant Organization:NCsoft, Inc. - Austin
Now we know at least some of the information is true, im very excited by this and would enjoy pushing back the charr. Hopefully taking all my characters with me.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by treserious

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Um, what is all that???

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

I'll be fine with Eye of the North as long as we don't have a GW2 where we have to start from scratch.

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

Totally agree.

All that work, for nothing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phantom
I'll be fine with Eye of the North as long as we don't have a GW2 where we have to start from scratch.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

Reasons why this MAY not be true....

Gaile has hinted MANY times that she would love a GW chapter located in an arctic region....if she knew that ch4 was wintry/north based, I would think that she would stay away from that topic altogether. Unless of course she really was hinting at the theme.

GW2 is over a year and a half away. I highly doubt that they would announce such specifics as the new races and stuff, SO early.

Voltaire

Voltaire

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Chicago-ish

Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by treserious
MWAHAHAHAHA!! some of what he says in the article could be true.
If what you said is true...wow. Many implications indeed.

And those inadvertant smileys in your post made it a lot easier and encouraging to read through that information.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Well it's looking like at least the title of the fourth campaign is true, which lends a degree of credibility to the rest of the article..

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

Race selection was widely asked feature.people wanted it so Anet implemented it.I dont see the problem.Centaur sinn anyone?

And Eye of the North isnt chapter 4 sheesh..... its an expansion used to tie up loose ends,read it again pls.Thats why GW1 is the trilogy.

Dem

Dem

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageMaster
Oh and btw, i dont think its a good idea posting personal info like that of a NCsofts emploi.
Everyone has access to that info just from a simple Whois command, if the employee didn't want people knowing his info then he would've hidden his info when he registered the domain.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashleigh McMahon
Totally agree.

All that work, for nothing?
Ditto on that, it would suck if we had to start over from scratch. That article looks very nice and I'll buy it for now but I'm not gonna get all worked up about it until Anet releases info.

NekoZ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

Friend pointed this out: Guild Wars Eye of the North = G.W.E.N.

(If this has been posted then sorry, didn't feel like sifting through 18 pages =p)

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageMaster
Race selection was widely asked feature.people wanted it so Anet implemented it.I dont see the problem.Centaur sinn anyone?
Because there's nothing weird or lore-breaking about a rapidly-moving/teleporting Centaur, right?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Many people have asked what lies north of Giant's Basin....perhaps here is our answer.

Eye Of The North as an EXPANSION ONLY sounds very credible, other details, not so sure.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoZ
Friend pointed this out: Guild Wars Eye of the North = G.W.E.N.

(If this has been posted then sorry, didn't feel like sifting through 18 pages =p)
Cute! And no I think you're the first to hit that. WTB GWEN.