2 days in chinese server open Beta test

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11 Mar 2007 at 06:21 - 1
i recently know from a friend that china has GW in open beta test( she and me both chinese ) , i went there, and start a PvP char of necro. after a few rounds in RA, i felt sad and happym, how so? i am happy bout that i use SS pwned those tanks in RA really well, but the same time, ifelt sad, there is just wayyyyy too many ppl asking around where can i get better equipments where can i lvl my char up asap, where can i farm money. man, seriousely, this is not bout the GW, GW is a competition game that allows you to brainstorm new builds, to make new stratigy of new GvG build, to teach u how teamwork really matters.

off topic, been playing 19 hours, got mighty hero( yay!! bambi ) and also a req 11 dwarven axe inscriptable from HoH chest, i just wanna ask, are we gonna keep what we get in open beta test, or it will be reseted after the official release?(srry bout my poor english, hope you guys can understand )

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11 Mar 2007 at 06:26 - 2
Like they did with the other beta tests you will probably lose everything that you gained in the test. They did this to all of them so it is not just the Chinese beta.

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11 Mar 2007 at 06:27 - 3
oh okay tyvm:P

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11 Mar 2007 at 08:03 - 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
there is just wayyyyy too many ppl asking around where can i get better equipments where can i lvl my char up asap, where can i farm money. man, seriousely, this is not bout the GW, GW is a competition game that allows you to brainstorm new builds, to make new stratigy of new GvG build, to teach u how teamwork really matters.
I don't really understand your problem. Are you saying you find it annoying that people are asking about PvE stuff while you are in a PvP Arena? Or are you having trouble believing that people actually enjoy the PvE content of Guild Wars?

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11 Mar 2007 at 08:30 - 5
no, it is not about pve or pvp, he meant that those ppl in the chinese beta test are much more interested in fastest possible level grinding, best and most expensive equipments and most profitable farming methods, it is not what GW is all about, in fact it is what GW is trying to avoid and discourage.

Your questions do not hold a humble intent, my friend.

undeadgun

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11 Mar 2007 at 08:41 - 6
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Originally Posted by Saphrium
no, it is not about pve or pvp, he meant that those ppl in the chinese beta test are much more interested in fastest possible level grinding, best and most expensive equipments and most profitable farming methods, it is not what GW is all about, in fact it is what GW is trying to avoid and discourage.

Your questions do not hold a humble intent, my friend.
thx!!! this is what am i talking bout!!!!

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11 Mar 2007 at 08:52 - 7
you also might find the Ascend of Heroes a tiny bit more difficult should the Chinese be thrown into the global tournament after the beta.

I'm curious whether the Chinese players will join the global community or if they live in their own parallel world apart from the rest.

undeadgun

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11 Mar 2007 at 09:09 - 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4thVariety
you also might find the Ascend of Heroes a tiny bit more difficult should the Chinese be thrown into the global tournament after the beta.

I'm curious whether the Chinese players will join the global community or if they live in their own parallel world apart from the rest.
yea, i would like to know this as well, cuz now they only have CH1, i wonder after they do the official release would chinese ppl get the faction and NF as well? if not, how they play GvG and HA with other countries??

zwei2stein

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11 Mar 2007 at 09:19 - 9
Interesting, so chinese GW has PvP afterall ...

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11 Mar 2007 at 09:57 - 10
If china takes GW seriously, europe and america are doomed, expecialy cuz of the favor and ladder, Damn it anet!! Put them on a seperate server, or we will be doomed!

Cacheelma

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11 Mar 2007 at 10:27 - 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
i felt sad and happym, how so? i am happy bout that i use SS pwned those tanks in RA really well, but the same time, ifelt sad, there is just wayyyyy too many ppl asking around where can i get better equipments where can i lvl my char up asap, where can i farm money. man, seriousely, this is not bout the GW, GW is a competition game that allows you to brainstorm new builds, to make new stratigy of new GvG build, to teach u how teamwork really matters.
You've just described what happened during Prophecies's (and the whole GW at that) WPE and every single BWE. Congrats.

undeadgun

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11 Mar 2007 at 11:32 - 12
what does WPE and BWE stands for???

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11 Mar 2007 at 12:56 - 13
World Preview Event and Beta Weekend Events

Good times..

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11 Mar 2007 at 13:24 - 14
@undeadgun - what Calcheelma is saying is that players new to GW are used to the usual RPG or MMORPG games where levels and equipment are of importance. They will need to learn the differences in GW.

We still see posts in the Q&A forum asking about leveling, strongest profession and uber equipment. Everyone who is new to the game is confused by the different gameplay.

zwei2stein

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11 Mar 2007 at 13:35 - 15
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Originally Posted by Darcy
@undeadgun - what Calcheelma is saying is that players new to GW are used to the usual RPG or MMORPG games where levels and equipment are of importance. They will need to learn the differences in GW.
And its exact mirror would happen for ex-GW comming to grind mmo:

(What do you mean ... two months of itnesive gameplay to reach playable level)

(where the hell is map travel, i dont want to walk ...)

(only 20 skills? how do i get more varied skills?)

(is there a cheap way for max equipment? it not like i can farm epics ...)

(hmm... how do i substract attribute points from X line? ... oh i cant, so i have to redo character fom start?)

(do i have to group with inept players for everything or are there some npcs avaiable?)

...

brr, changing from GW to another game would painfull ...

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11 Mar 2007 at 14:34 - 16
Chinese people trying to find out where to farm money? Never...I wouldn't imagine it.

(Satire based around China cornering most Gold-farming markets in other games)

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11 Mar 2007 at 16:38 - 17
I Want Your Dwarven Axe!!!!!

Darcy

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11 Mar 2007 at 16:46 - 18
@Zwei2stein - you are correct. I haven't played any other RPG in a year. I think if I started one of my old ones up or tried an MMORPG, I would suffer from game culture shock also.

It would be back to buying arrows and food, resting, etc. No skill, no thinking, just keep leveling up - sounds boring now.

@OP - this is a beta, so give people time to get used to the different mindset required. They will catch on and then, hopefully, learn to love the differences.

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11 Mar 2007 at 18:07 - 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
i recently know from a friend that china has GW in open beta test( she and me both chinese ) , i went there, and start a PvP char of necro. after a few rounds in RA, i felt sad and happym, how so? i am happy bout that i use SS pwned those tanks in RA really well, but the same time, ifelt sad, there is just wayyyyy too many ppl asking around where can i get better equipments where can i lvl my char up asap, where can i farm money. man, seriousely, this is not bout the GW, GW is a competition game that allows you to brainstorm new builds, to make new stratigy of new GvG build, to teach u how teamwork really matters.

off topic, been playing 19 hours, got mighty hero( yay!! bambi ) and also a req 11 dwarven axe inscriptable from HoH chest, i just wanna ask, are we gonna keep what we get in open beta test, or it will be reseted after the official release?(srry bout my poor english, hope you guys can understand )
So, maybe I am mis interpreting your statements here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
GW is a competition game that allows you to brainstorm new builds
Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
also a req 11 dwarven axe inscriptable from HoH chest, i just wanna ask, are we gonna keep what we get in open beta test
So ya kinda like that Axe? Kinda want to sell it? What does that heave to do with PVP? With brainstorming new builds?

Shanaeri Rynale

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11 Mar 2007 at 18:42 - 20
So I believe the strict laws from China mean that Chinese PvP/GvG will be totally seperate. I'm not sure if that means the traders etc will be linked or seperate tho. I guess not.

undeadgun

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11 Mar 2007 at 19:03 - 21
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Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt
So, maybe I am mis interpreting your statements here.





So ya kinda like that Axe? Kinda want to sell it? What does that heave to do with PVP? With brainstorming new builds?
ummm think i did say "off topic" right?

fog_of_redoubt

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11 Mar 2007 at 19:32 - 22
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Originally Posted by undeadgun
ummm think i did say "off topic" right?
Yeah you did, but you were kinda preaching about GW being all about PVP and builds and not about grind and items and money and stuff... Then you indicate you want to keep the axe...

Your preaching loses a lot of its weight when you contradict it. But Anet does the same thing. Why PvP controls PvE areas, and PvP gets rewards that are PvE based will never make sense.

undeadgun

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11 Mar 2007 at 19:36 - 23
man, there are already many many many threads talking bout PvE vs PvP, i am here not saying which is better, which is more profitable, i here just wanna ask are we gonna keep our title and stuff in official release after the open beta test. if you wanna talk bout PvE vs PvP, find other place, dont talk bout it here plz, thx

Jamison0071

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11 Mar 2007 at 21:47 - 24
I have a question about the Chinese servers, do they look active? Does it look like the beta has been a success?

undeadgun

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11 Mar 2007 at 22:11 - 25
imo , yes they are very active, you can find tons ppl in all district, especially in ascalon city(bout 20 districts), crowd......

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12 Mar 2007 at 00:16 - 26
I still remember when the beta phase of WoW ended, they deleted everything.
But the data of open beta has been preserved.

Btw 109 continuous wins. from 5 am. till 17 pm. it's not me..
awesome

undeadgun

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12 Mar 2007 at 00:52 - 27
nice pic sohnn!!! i like it

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12 Mar 2007 at 03:17 - 28
afaik because of China's censorship laws, they'll be on a completely separate server from us since they don't want their citizens possibly hearing on banned subjects from other continents.

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12 Mar 2007 at 03:27 - 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
So I believe the strict laws from China mean that Chinese PvP/GvG will be totally seperate. I'm not sure if that means the traders etc will be linked or seperate tho. I guess not.
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Originally Posted by Enko
afaik because of China's censorship laws, they'll be on a completely separate server from us since they don't want their citizens possibly hearing on banned subjects from other continents.

Would be nice to know more details from ANET about this, if they already have released details i apologise and welcome someone to link up.

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12 Mar 2007 at 03:31 - 30
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afaik because of China's censorship laws, they'll be on a completely separate server from us since they don't want their citizens possibly hearing on banned subjects from other continents.
China's just trying to protect its citizens from the evils of the rest of the world.....

At least that's what China told me to say

lucifer_uk

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12 Mar 2007 at 03:39 - 31
As understandable that different country's have different opinions and over views on laws and methods of communications. Its not likely that the Americans are going to hide subliminal messaging in the Guild Wars story.

Out of interest i wonder if ANET will have to have an official from the government clear EVERYTHING before going ahead with anything.

P.S. God bless the tank man :P

undeadgun

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12 Mar 2007 at 03:41 - 32
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China's just trying to protect its citizens from the evils of the rest of the world.....

At least that's what China told me to say
No i dont think so, we do have some sorta protections, for excample: i try to type in s**t, its not allowed, i try to type f words, its not allowed, even if i type in sexy, its not allowed as well. What 's point is, we are trying to make a better game enviorment, not to avoid the "evils" , if we do really want to aviod "evils" we would not even bother to let the guild wars came in to China

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12 Mar 2007 at 03:44 - 33
Also without letting this dissolve into a political debate - As must as this might be seen as OTT to western country's it is as much as the free media isn't actually free here.

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12 Mar 2007 at 03:48 - 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimWizard
China's just trying to protect its citizens from the evils of the rest of the world.....
Just like what the Imperial China had in mind when they built the Great Wall, aight?

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12 Mar 2007 at 05:08 - 35
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Originally Posted by undeadgun
No i dont think so, we do have some sorta protections, for excample: i try to type in s**t, its not allowed, i try to type f words, its not allowed, even if i type in sexy, its not allowed as well. What 's point is, we are trying to make a better game enviorment, not to avoid the "evils" , if we do really want to aviod "evils" we would not even bother to let the guild wars came in to China
Thats because you have the swear filter on. You can change that in options if you like...

undeadgun

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12 Mar 2007 at 05:32 - 36
srry to turn you down, but the chat filter in options is gray, and it is defaulted as Maximum, in that case means you cant change it

unknown entity

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12 Mar 2007 at 05:51 - 37
On topic:
In Japanese case, all data of open beta was inherited without deletion.
So there's a chance you can keep your PvE progress, titles, unlock info, etc. when GW service will start in China.
You had better check Chinese GW official website for confirmation.

ogami_ito

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12 Mar 2007 at 07:30 - 38
If we continue talking about politics, this post will get locked. Somehow it always devolves into politics when it come to China.

BTW...in Diablo Chinese people can join any server. Chinese people can join any Counterstrike server. They can play American WoW if they buy a copy. They can use any chat program and chat internationally. I know this because i live in China, used to play Wow, and I use Skype, Gmail talk, and yahoo messenger. And played Diablo.

Lets face it, the government of China is not interested in censoring game adicts. We are just not a threat to anyone... not until the artificial intelligence known as Xeres takes over the internet and it is up to a Chosen One to overthrough the tyrany.... uh... what?

About being on seperate servers...WE ARE ALL ON SEPERATE SERVERS. The server we are on depends on what is the best way for us to connect to Anet...that's a fundamental part of Anet's technology. We are also in seperate geographic-based zones as well as in-town based districts. The Chinese will play in a China zone, just like Europeans, Americans, Japanese, Koreans, and Taiwanese. But there is no reason to assume that they will be restricted from international districts or PvP/GvG.

Etta

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12 Mar 2007 at 10:00 - 39
So if Chinese GW players are not allow on the worldwide server, what about HA?
Is that mean they can go to UW & FOW anytime they like?

daraaksii

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12 Mar 2007 at 13:27 - 40
Why do they need to be on a seperate server?:\ I can't understand.