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ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

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Scars Meadows [SMS]

13 Mar 2007 at 05:18 - 41

yeap so it's true, you don't spend time and money just to patent names and not use it...

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

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Pennsylvania

E/

13 Mar 2007 at 05:19 - 42

Hahahaha, you guys are like hawks. D:Cant you just be patient, and let Anet reveal stuff when they're good and ready?

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

13 Mar 2007 at 05:23 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

...This pretty much proves that Eye of the North and GW2 are 99.9% true...

while i agree that it seems rather stupid to think this is all just a swerve to send us off in the wrong direction, id still say that things are not confirmed at this point. and who says that "GW:EN" is going to be a new add-on? or that "GW2" is coming out anytime soon or how it will affect the current GW world?

*looks back at old threads about the "confirmed" new chapter "Utopia"*

ill be waiting for my magazine till i pass any judgment.

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

13 Mar 2007 at 05:34 - 44

Hey maybe I could buy off the trademark for Guild Wars 3. It would be interesting to see what happens then. I have enough funds to do it too.

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

13 Mar 2007 at 05:39 - 45

This is very good news as it does end some rumors and speculation.

GW:EN is for real!

racso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

N??rk??t H??????

13 Mar 2007 at 05:44 - 46

Guild Wars 2?? Screwed, bye bye GW (most will flee to GW2)

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

13 Mar 2007 at 05:44 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryFox

This is very good news as it does end some rumors and speculation.

GW:EN is for real!

Well either she pops up now or we will never likely see her again. Unless she becomes a immortal demon/vampire/god and lives past the 100 year marker, we probably won’t. I wonder if people will be disappointed if she doesn’t show. Man she really builds up the hype machine doesn’t she?

Iscana

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

13 Mar 2007 at 06:11 - 48

Btw, If the there is trademark for it as well a patent, it won't say that it's still all true. I mean you can get a patent for 500 euro for the rest of your life. A old classmate did that to her logo, 500 euro, write down why is was unique and pay 500 euro for the rest of her life. So for a joke it would be less then 100 euro, and websites like the inquiver or something can easely take that 100 euro from sponsored banners or another advertising stuff.

Maybe the whole stuff around the GW:EN expansion is one big "How we get more visitors on this website" trick, or the whole GW:EN expansion is just a 1 aprils fools thingy.

I have seriously being thinking of it, but I doubt this is real
- GW:EN, seriously that sounds like a big community joke to me
- Patent and trademark, not that expensive to have your own. (at least in holland) but written by NcSoft? 1 April maybe? :/ big vague
- Non human characters, does this follow the GW lore? and why suddenly now?
- GW2, why say when still an expasion left to be bought, that's a really bad marketing strategy.
- No Anet people reacting on the whole: GW:EN idea, mmh :/
- Gaile said: "Next month more info about new GW stuff", mmh next month is April right? And magazine, maybe an article: "Whole GW:EN rumour is joke, real info inside here" Omg that's soo nice for those magazines, loads of people will buy since it's the only official source of information. (that's a big marketing strategy there for the magazines and a big deal maybe between Anet and magazine? :/ sounds like a yes)

I think something isn't right here, but well would be great 1 april fools day, the magazine will seriously have huge bump of buyers and Anet did a serious history in gaming joke.

I think Anet is nuts enought to do that.

For me, think whatever you want guys, because I think I knew what's going on.

And seriously it's something to LOL about for several weeks more in april for me at least. I can't wait for confirmation of all this stuff. And we'll see who was right.

Zorglubb

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

13 Mar 2007 at 06:52 - 49

Watching the naysayers squirm is entertaining!

Oh well, two days to wait for the news, it won't kill us! Plus anyway, most of the news we may get now (official or not) is about releases so far in the future that things are bound to change. There were lots of stuff announced with Nightfall that didn't materialize until month laters, and some of it that has yet to materialize.

So official news or rumourmill, it's all the same. Only the end product truth truly matters. The rest is just speculation.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

13 Mar 2007 at 07:20 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorglubb

Oh well, two days to wait for the news, it won't kill us!

I dunno. It's killing me!

Yes, it's true, much speculation will be resolved -- one way or another -- in a few days' time. But did days every turn over more slowly?

bamm bamm bamm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

13 Mar 2007 at 07:21 - 51

Copyright, Trademark and Patent laws are all completely separate, Trademarks being by far the most regulated. You have to use them and be prepared to defend them. Just ask Cisco about their iPhone.

Come on, the article was totally true, Gaile just needed us to buy the mag so they keep a good relationship with their media partners. What else could she say? They'll probably be a few differences lost in reporter translation and some new bits, but it'll be totally true. Not that I would put money on it or anything...

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

13 Mar 2007 at 07:25 - 52

while I'm leaning towards it being true, the idea that it's all gospel because there are copyrights and patents out is junk, for all we know could be where the enquirer got the idea from.

Just to point out, I have over 300 domain names registered that relate to a single domain, simply so no one else attempts to rip off my name and product.

Croix_Raul

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/

13 Mar 2007 at 07:33 - 53

Maybe can put up another Dooms day thread since gw1 is coming to a end with one more chapter to go.

When GW 2 is out lets all watch the stock market crash.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

13 Mar 2007 at 07:49 - 54

For all those talking about Utopia, that was a WHOIS record, not a trademark. And according to a ... I can't remember, was it IGN, GameSpy, GameSpot? ... article, an NCSoft official stated that guildwarsutopia.com was to be used for some unannounced project (i.e. it had nothing to do with a new chapter).

When a company goes to the US Patent and Trademark Office, they're being serious. There is absolutely zero possibility that they would trademark false names to 'throw us off the trail'.

Let's just wait two more days to get the full story. No more conspiracy theories, please.

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

13 Mar 2007 at 07:53 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

But did days every turn over more slowly?

You said it Gaile...soooooooo slow and I'm off too, which is good but also bad cause at least at work the time would've passed by quicker....

I've always hoped for more snow covered area's so I certainly hope that that part of it is true

I do wonder why patents are needed for game names though, somehow a trade mark seems enough. Planning on bringing out any action figures at all?

Anyone with some legal knowledge care to comment on why a patent is needed or useful for a game name?

devils wraths

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

the fianna [fi]

E/Mo

13 Mar 2007 at 09:54 - 56

im pretty sure gaile said in her last chat that utopia is beeing used but not the proper name

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

13 Mar 2007 at 10:03 - 57

2 more days!!! wait a sec, will there be any news on official GW site as well?

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

13 Mar 2007 at 10:55 - 58

lol @ Anet, tx for the info Inde.

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

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The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

13 Mar 2007 at 11:33 - 59

Thanks for the information Inde,

Seems reall, googled that guy and came up with this among some other stuff :| ah well on to gw 2 it is then

http://www.lawyerroster.com/website/LawId437082.html

Yarly

Retired GW Player

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK

Mo/

13 Mar 2007 at 13:09 - 60

ooh, right then

Thanks Inde.

On to wondering what GW2 features are gonna be :P

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

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Portugal

13 Mar 2007 at 13:32 - 61

2 more days!!! 2 MORE DAYS!!!!

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

13 Mar 2007 at 13:58 - 62

Why all the excitement over something that likely won't be released until 2009 or so? :dunno:

Dr Morbius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Where Am I??

The Crimson Mantle

E/Mo

13 Mar 2007 at 14:09 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Why all the excitement over something that likely won't be released until 2009 or so? :dunno:

Errrrmmm... much of the news will be about Chapter 4... which will be out this year.

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

13 Mar 2007 at 14:22 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirageMaster

I wonder OP was smoking something.. this is old news and needs to be closed.

I lol @ this one

Allanon754

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Rochester, NY

Kings Beyond the Wall [KING]

Mo/

13 Mar 2007 at 14:23 - 65

But the sad part is after the news is released we'll have to wait for the all the hundreds of posts whining and complaining about the news :\

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

13 Mar 2007 at 14:37 - 66

Just shoot me now...........I seriously cant wait any longer.

/waiting for the rampage of threads about the upcoming release........

thezed

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Iowa, USA

HoTR

13 Mar 2007 at 14:42 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allanon754

But the sad part is after the news is released we'll have to wait for the all the hundreds of posts whining and complaining about the news :\

thats when you take a break from the forum for a week or two

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

13 Mar 2007 at 14:58 - 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiNkLeR

2 more days!!! 2 MORE DAYS!!!!

what? I don't know what you mean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenO_Under

I guess that means the Names are right, the playable races are wrong, and the gameplay is misleading...

dude, wow. This shows that EotN and GW2 will be realeased it DOES NOT prove or disprove anything

Kos Luftar

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Canada

Scars Meadows

W/Mo

13 Mar 2007 at 15:32 - 69

If we assume, that it will come out 09 or 10 which is info from Inquierer therefore you must also assume that the BETA Testing will be happening late this year or begining of next year, and that would be why they would Trademark the name so the can use it for BETA and later for the actual release.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

13 Mar 2007 at 15:55 - 70

how does one become a beta tester?

jcapulet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

13 Mar 2007 at 16:39 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

Anyone with some legal knowledge care to comment on why a patent is needed or useful for a game name?

I would think a patent applies to the game itself, not the game's name. A patent would grant rights to the inventor so that others cannot rip off the invention (in this case, the game itself).

From what I've read, though, it sounds like they've only trademarked the game names. No game patents yet, unless I misread something.

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

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TLA

Me/

13 Mar 2007 at 16:50 - 72

chill out people. whats the big fuss?

Toilet Oni

Frost Gate Guardian

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Tonigth we dine in.....CUSTODY

Moe wine plz

R/

13 Mar 2007 at 16:53 - 73

how cool

is Gw2 and gw Eye of the north the same game?

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

13 Mar 2007 at 17:01 - 74

Toilet - no...GW:EN is presumably the next chapter, whereas GW2 is a new game altogether.

I would be pretty upset (well, as upset as I could get over a video game) if the title is NOT GW:Eye of the North, just because Gaile by this point should have told us that it wasn't. Clearly PCGamer has the exclusive and will presumably tell us the title of the chapter, but if the title is NOT Eye of the North, Gaile telling us that does not in any way take away from PCGamer's exclusive article.

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

13 Mar 2007 at 17:01 - 75

no! GW:EN or whatever ch4 will be call is coming out this year. GW 2 may or may not come out in 2009 or 2010.

Damn! AI beat me to it :P

Yosh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

California

Zero Mercy

Mo/

13 Mar 2007 at 17:08 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiNkLeR

2 more days!!! 2 MORE DAYS!!!!

I just thought that was funny. I say this is totally true. Anet wouldn't make a fake trademark or try to trick us. We would just find out anway by some other source. After the magazines come out Anet will start spamming us with info about EN and the big, long, over-rated, hype will begin.

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

13 Mar 2007 at 19:33 - 77

I think Anet is really laughing right now at all this bogus information coming out. I think people are so anxiously awaiting chapter 4 and the rumors of GW2 to be true or not true that some people are just believing everything they first hear or read because they can't wait. What does Gail always keep reminding us, if it doesn't come from Anet then don't believe the hype. It is just that simple. Anyway, back to playing , my necro needs just a few more elites to have them all ! Have fun !

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

13 Mar 2007 at 20:23 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan

while I'm leaning towards it being true, the idea that it's all gospel because there are copyrights and patents out is junk, for all we know could be where the enquirer got the idea from.

Just to point out, I have over 300 domain names registered that relate to a single domain, simply so no one else attempts to rip off my name and product.

There are differences between trademarks/servicemarks, copyrights and patents. Trademarks are heavily regulated and must be used if you register one.

Also, If you noticed the date on the trademark registration is a day LATER than than when Inq posted the article.

And the 300 domain name thing is just overkill unless your product is "that" popular.

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

13 Mar 2007 at 20:32 - 79

I'd say all of this, along with the big Inquirer information, and the fact gaile confirmed the information in one of the threads, pretty much proves all of this information to be correct.

There's way to much evidence to not say that GW:EN isn't coming. It definatly is, and it will most likly be announced on Thursday, like Anet always does, along with the PC Gamer article, giving more info.

Good find Inde!

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

13 Mar 2007 at 20:36 - 80

I hope the playable races and pve-only skills theory is false.
Please, no more pve-based MMORPGs, we already have 100+

Anyway, nice find Inde

GWEN i real afterall.