Patent and TradeMark Office has record of GW2 and Eye of the North

BenO_Under

BenO_Under

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Take A Ride On My Leet Train [Choo]

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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked
dude, wow. This shows that EotN and GW2 will be realeased it DOES NOT prove or disprove anything
Im just guessing...

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

So, was Utopia a red herring? To make us believe it was the next chapter?

jarwel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

What I don't understand is why they would announce a new campaign/expansion/whatever for GW1 at the same time they announce GW2. This has to be a poor marketing strategy no matter how you look at it. Before I would have eagerly purchased a new expansion, but now this talk of GW2 will really make me rethink this decision. In fact it has made me consider quitting altogether. I would rather check out something new like Everquest II or World of Warcraft than spend more time on an old game that will only be replaced by a sequel in a few years. So unless this "major update" is free or Guild Wars 2 is in some manner backwards compatible, I just can't see why they would say this...

Angel's Sorrow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Originally Posted by jarwel
Before I would have eagerly purchased a new expansion, but now this talk of GW2 will really make me rethink this decision. In fact it has made me consider quitting altogether. I would rather check out something new like Everquest II or World of Warcraft than spend more time on an old game that will only be replaced by a sequel in a few years.
I completely agree. It's like buying a little puppy knowing he will die sometime soon.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

What's new about EQ2 and WoW? And Blizzard already said they have another MMO in the works. If GW to you is about working towards FoW armor that you have just realized never had any lasting value to begin with, it's time to find a new game anyway.

They'd probably do the announcement as a way of explaining why CH 4 isn't a full standalone, is the last expansion for GW, and to tide people over / give them something to look forward to.

jarwel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

Yes, but EQ2 and WoW are new to me. Guild Wars isn't. It was only more appealing because they offered new content; to make it fun and exciting once again. Regardless of how certain people regard it, making this sort of announcement will most certainly hurt their sales. If this really was a leak...I'm sure there will soon be a new soul added to the ranks of the unemployed; this one having the unique satisfaction that he cost his previous employer a great deal of business.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

tempted to sell my account and everything lol cause i doubt i'll play gw1 when gw2 comes out

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

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Originally Posted by Angel's Sorrow
I completely agree. It's like buying a little puppy knowing he will die sometime soon.
Puppy/Dog's average lifespan = 13-16 yrs
Online Video Game's average lifespan = 3-4 yrs.


Sounds about right, it's all relative. When we bought GW, we should've all been aware of this distinct reality. Things die, sad truth of life.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

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What I don't understand is why they would announce a new campaign/expansion/whatever for GW1 at the same time they announce GW2. This has to be a poor marketing strategy no matter how you look at it.
Unless GW:EN is GW2? Just a thought...

Jaythen Tyradel

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Originally Posted by GloryFox
Unless GW:EN is GW2? Just a thought...
Not likely. Not saying it couldn't be, but highly unlikely.

Side note:
Re-reading through this and other threads...These doom and gloom posts are getting old.
IF the thought of a new game being release puts you in a bad mood or even the thought of quitting GW, maybe this game or even possibly this style of gaming isn't for you.
*waits for Thursday with anxious anticipation to put some of this speculation to rest or confirm to focus our attention on what is real*

jarwel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

A new game doesn't worry me at all. It just doesn't seem timed very well, or at least the announcement of it...if it is even true that is. Anyway, what do you bet Guild Wars Utopia was the code name for GW2. Seems logical to me. They wouldn't want people to know about it until they squeeze all the money they can out of the first one. It just doesn't make sense...

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

Scribe should have alot of info on thursday,that what i understand Gaile said.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

where did she say that?

Zorglubb

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by jarwel
What I don't understand is why they would announce a new campaign/expansion/whatever for GW1 at the same time they announce GW2. This has to be a poor marketing strategy no matter how you look at it.
...unless the info we have is incomplete/misleading, which is likely.
We know it's coming, we know its name, we have hints and bits, but the main course is still unknown... So just keep collecting the ingredients

Angel's Sorrow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Puppy/Dog's average lifespan = 13-16 yrs
Online Video Game's average lifespan = 3-4 yrs.


Sounds about right, it's all relative. When we bought GW, we should've all been aware of this distinct reality. Things die, sad truth of life.
Note the word "soon"...And note the absence of the word "average"

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

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Originally Posted by Angel's Sorrow
Note the word "soon"...And note the absence of the word "average"
Well then I have good news! 2-3 years from now, as the rumor suggests for GW2, is beyond the average lifespan for an online video game. That is not "soon", nor is it at all like your analogy, that's above average, which is what my point was. Besides, it's not really dieing, anyway. I doubt the GW1 servers would be suddenly cut off once GW2 rolls around.

If anything, it's like getting a puppy, and by the time it's a ripe old dog of 16 years, getting another puppy. Sure, you might play a lot more with the new puppy, but the old dog is still there, occasionally wagging it's tail.

Angel's Sorrow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Well then I have good news! 2-3 years from now, as the rumor suggests for GW2, is beyond the average lifespan for an online video game. That is not "soon", nor is it at all like your analogy, that's above average, which is what my point was. Besides, it's not really dieing, anyway. I doubt the GW1 servers would be suddenly cut off once GW2 rolls around.

If anything, it's like getting a puppy, and by the time it's a ripe old dog of 16 years, getting another puppy. Sure, you might play a lot more with the new puppy, but the old dog is still there, occasionally wagging it's tail.
Ok. Let's explain my analogy more specifically. It applies to the expansion not to the game itself. Get it? Expansion comes, people have fun with it for a short while then GW2 launches and GW "dies" (don't take this too literally).

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Here an screenshot I just did. Finally the GW:EN and GW2 are REAL and LEGAL names:

Estic

Estic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

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Originally Posted by Angel's Sorrow
Ok. Let's explain my analogy more specifically. It applies to the expansion not to the game itself. Get it? Expansion comes, people have fun with it for a short while then GW2 launches and GW "dies" (don't take this too literally).
Ah, but you missed his point. If the average life of a video game is 3-4 years. And GW 2 is coming out in 2009 (as the article states right) that's 2 years away. That is no where near soon, that would equal a puppy living for half of it's life, so about 8 years.

Sorry, your analogy is flawed.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

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Originally Posted by Estic
Ah, but you missed his point. If the average life of a video game is 3-4 years. And GW 2 is coming out in 2009 (as the article states right) that's 2 years away. That is no where near soon, that would equal a puppy living for half of it's life, so about 8 years.

Sorry, your analogy is flawed.
Not to mention, if it is just an "expansion", and not a full game, then it's not even a "full pet". It's more like a hamster.

Estic

Estic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Not to mention, if it is just an "expansion", and not a full game, then it's not even a "full pet". It's more like a hamster.
I lol'd at that

I'd love a mini hamster though

widowdaballa

widowdaballa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

TeXaS

Xen of Onslaught [XoO] Xen Of Heroes Division

Uhm.. GW:EN is Gwen? Are ya'll saying GW:EN is named after her? Idk, I may just be starting a new rumor LMAO

jjdefan

jjdefan

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Virginia Beach

XoO

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jarwel
What I don't understand is why they would announce a new campaign/expansion/whatever for GW1 at the same time they announce GW2. This has to be a poor marketing strategy no matter how you look at it. Before I would have eagerly purchased a new expansion, but now this talk of GW2 will really make me rethink this decision. In fact it has made me consider quitting altogether. I would rather check out something new like Everquest II or World of Warcraft than spend more time on an old game that will only be replaced by a sequel in a few years. So unless this "major update" is free or Guild Wars 2 is in some manner backwards compatible, I just can't see why they would say this...
Are you serious?? You would quit a game because a new one might come out in 2 years? Why bother buying any game since it will be replaced by something new anyway? Look at all the sports games out there. They all get brand new versions every single year and they fly off the shelves. Why not develop new content for an existing game to keep the masses entertained till the new one comes out? I don't think this will be the last expansion for GW. IF GW2 is released in 2009, do you think that we will go the entire 2008 year with no new content? Maybe, maybe not....I would hope to have something during that year.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

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Originally Posted by racso
Guild Wars 2?? Screwed, bye bye GW (most will flee to GW2)
Guild Wars 2 won't come out for quite some time, more time if not the same as long as Guild Wars 1 has been out. I'm sure I'll notice its release one day but after CH4 you will see the GW population will diminish, people will get bored of the game and reattain their lives back. Most of those people will forget about GW entirely and move on.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

Well less than 24 hours we will know alot more and I am sure it will be an interesting day for all of us. I hope chapter 4 is more pvp oriented in the sense that you have more things to do after you beat the game like we had in Factions with alliance battles and Fort Aspenwood. That really kept people busy for awhile. Its odd that people would call chapter 4 an expansion though, Anet usually releases a standalone games where you have the option to merge so you can access prior releases of guildwars.

As far as these patents and trademark things I haven't the slightest as to how they work but I'm not believing anything until Anet makes an official announcement. The next thing you know someone will post a map of the world and try to make us believe that the world is actually flat ! LOL !
Happy farming and good gaming everyone !

Hanok Odbrook

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

Actually Buster, I've gone through the process of trademarking and can assure you that it's the real thing. Plus, looking at the history of the listings pretty much proves the timing that Eye of the North will be C4. As for the rest of the stuff in the article, Gaile herself said some of it was correct, some wrong, and some misleading. Again, going with Anet's history of being able to keep a lid on details, I think it's a safe bet to assume C4 will be called Eye of the North, and may or may not be released later than their six month schedule (the lack of a PvP beta thus far any word of any beta hints at this). As for the rest, deductive logic can lead us to belive that C4 will wrap up the current Guild Wars saga, but I think it's highly doubtful it will be expansion only. Guild Wars 2 will most likely be the next production and introduce a whole new realm and storyline to go along with it, to keep things fresh and keep players interested in the franchise.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

explodemyheart

explodemyheart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Indiana

Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by widowdaballa
Uhm.. GW:EN is Gwen? Are ya'll saying GW:EN is named after her? Idk, I may just be starting a new rumor LMAO
People are just crazy and like to speculate.

It's kind of like prophets. Some old men made some pretty vague prophecies about events that would take place. Something bad somewhere at some time was going to happen. Then when something bad happened, the people that believed in the prophets were able to bend certain ideas to fit the prophecies, thus the prophets were obviously correct.

Some people are obsessed with Gwen, they want to know what became of her. Anet keeps leaving little trails of evidence pointing to the fact that Gwen may be alive, or at the very least, was at some point after the searing. Eye of the North may have everything to do with Gwen, it may not. Gwen may not even be a part of it at all, we won't know until it happens.

That being said, it's quite easy to come up with acronyms from most anything to make up some grand idea of something, but usually it's mostly just ideas and speculation, maybe some wishful thinking, nothing more.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

I truely hope GW2 isn't gonna be around for like another 10 years at LEAST! Cause by then, i just might be tired of GW... probly not. lol Well, i'll just hope that they are WAY in advance planners who don't have GW2 slated for another 20 years? hehe.

Oh, and techinically its GW:EotN .... not GW:EN. Hehe, you conspiracy mongers! ....

cheers.

jarwel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

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Originally Posted by jjdefan
Are you serious?? You would quit a game because a new one might come out in 2 years?
I'm not saying I'm going to quit playing Guild Wars. I'm just saying that the idea of a Guild Wars 2 takes a lot of the excitement away from the game. Besides making a direct sequel to an MMO is pretty lame anyhow. I think making a Guild Wars 2 would be quite different than making Diablo 2 or a Madden sequel. I would rather they just come up with something new instead. MMOs are designed in such a way that they have no tangible end, so the whole idea of a Guild Wars 2 is just absurd.

xshadowwolfx

xshadowwolfx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

California | Ascalon

Mo/

Well I still bought and played counter-strike and counter-strike CZ knowing full well that CC Source was coming out.

Just enjoy the game while its here. Thats what games are about its not about being goldly and having perfect items. (though some may disagree with this)