All of the elemental skills are meant to be equal. for example, we have the attunements :
[skill]Air Attunement[/skill]
[skill]Earth Attunement[/skill]
[skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]
[skill]Water Attunement[/skill]
But what about the conjures?
[skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill]
[skill]Conjure Earth[/skill]
[skill]Conjure Flame[/skill]
[skill]Conjure Frost[/skill]
Where's Conjure Earth?
Realm of Fiery Doom
Lydz
That's true ^^
Craero
Conjure Earth: For 60 seconds your weapon looks like a giant club.... could see it now.
Teh [prefession]-zorz
I always woundered about that, id have more use for that ebon dust aura :P
Mitchel
Who uses the conjures anyway except for grown up wammo's?
Div
Elementalists aren't powerful enough to conjure something as great as earth itself. Only the most uber ones are able to do it. I wouldn't surprised if the final boss of GW:EN uses conjure earth, and elite skill that adds +10...70...90 damage 
Realm of Fiery Doom
I do when my weapon runs out of energy. Especially with the recent update that buffed the conjures, I think Conjure Earth should be made, even if only for the sake of equality.
Epinephrine
It was likely because earth was seen as defensive initially, and that they didn't want a weapon buff in with armour buffs.
Rangers also lacked earth armour.
Rangers also lacked earth armour.
Realm of Fiery Doom
Of course! I keep thinking of the elements as equals (too many fantasy games and novels).
But isn't water mainly for snares?
(BTW, please forgive me for having a rant in your speed boost thread, Epinephrine
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But isn't water mainly for snares?
(BTW, please forgive me for having a rant in your speed boost thread, Epinephrine
)
Llint
I vote in favor of removing conjures for something better. Conjures are just horrible, I dont know why their in the game and why more should be added.
Mike_version2
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Rangers also lacked earth armour.
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Kas
Hence, past tense.
Realm of Fiery Doom
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Elementalists aren't powerful enough to conjure something as great as earth itself. Only the most uber ones are able to do it. I wouldn't surprised if the final boss of GW:EN uses conjure earth, and elite skill that adds +10...70...90 damage
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Dzan
Conjures are actually seeing some play in GVG now since the buff. With obs down I'm not shocked people don't know that yet. Either way, Brutal Weapon is infinitely better since it can't be removed.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Mitchel
Who uses the conjures anyway except for grown up wammo's?
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Conjures are all forms of energy. Flame is thermal, Lightning is electric, Frost is the rapid negation of thermal. Earth does not have an energy form, it would just be putting a rock around your weapon, decreasing it's effectiveness.
'But little shards of rock around your weapon would cut more!' you say? Well, they gave us [skill]Sand Shards[/skill], which is kind of like conjure earth. Yeah, it's not in a similar line and it doesn't do the same thing, what can you do.
Realm of Fiery Doom
So I suppose bye-bye Conjure Earth?
Raxxman
So what does an Ebon maul do that a normal one doesn't? Yet we have ebon weapon mods.
At the basic level, they're all just a transfer of energy. Ebon weapons could just have increased mass/kinetic energy.
and there is no good reason why Conjure Earth doesn't exist.
At the basic level, they're all just a transfer of energy. Ebon weapons could just have increased mass/kinetic energy.
and there is no good reason why Conjure Earth doesn't exist.
Illuminator
Conjure Earth doesn't make sense, Frost makes your weapon so cold it does more dmg, Fire makes your weapon hot, Lightning charges the weapon with electicity.
Then what would earth do? Make your weapon so dirty that the target gets infected?
Logic is the shit
Then what would earth do? Make your weapon so dirty that the target gets infected?
Logic is the shit
Dark Kal
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Who uses the conjures anyway except for grown up wammo's?
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Actually the Conjure X spells are pretty good skills for melee players and rangers.
Bowstring Badass
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Wammo is a conjunction of the words 'Warrior' and 'Monk' referring to W/Mo, hence they can't use any elementalist skills.
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OhCrapLions
I see some of you dont know just how powerful they are. ESPECALY for players that dont use ranged spells.
Mike_version2
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Wammo is a conjunction of the words 'Warrior' and 'Monk' referring to W/Mo, hence they can't use any elementalist skills.
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themeteor
It could work, if we take obsidian - a material which can make a blade 5 times sharper then steel rap your sword in it via magic and all of a sudden you do more damage. There are many rocks with properties that could be useful for a weapon and as all the other elements have a conjure skill it is a little strange that earth does not.
Losttoapathy
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Originally Posted by Illuminator
Conjure Earth doesn't make sense, Frost makes your weapon so cold it does more dmg, Fire makes your weapon hot, Lightning charges the weapon with electicity.
Then what would earth do? Make your weapon so dirty that the target gets infected? Logic is the shit |
Crimso
I think Stoneflesh Aura takes conjure Earths place Since it does the opposite of the others(by reducing damage by a set amount) however it does'ent require an earth weapon.
abrahm
I went looking for Conjure Earth just the other day for a build i thought of and was greatly dissapointed to find it didn't exist. I agree it should be in the game.
MirageMaster
Fire and cold dosent make sence as well.You have to hold your weapon,touching enemy for some time before cold or fire begin to take effect.You hit something with hot-glowing metal and itll do physical damage only cause heat energy wouldnt have time to transfer over to target.Only thing that could really do some damage is electrical dicharge but... its imposable to put it on a sword,doh.
Illuminator
If a weapon is hot enough it will do some damage if you cut someone with it, like burning the skin to crisp. And how fast do you hit someone? I am sure the heat have time to transfer unless your blade is in contact with them for just a nanosecond or something.
Try to turn up the heat in the oven and put your hand on bars or whatever and pull your hand out real quick and i am sure you got some heat transferred to your hand and it will hurt.
Same goes for cold, if it is cold enough it will freeze down the tissue and it will hurt like hell when the tissue is warming up.
Try to turn up the heat in the oven and put your hand on bars or whatever and pull your hand out real quick and i am sure you got some heat transferred to your hand and it will hurt.
Same goes for cold, if it is cold enough it will freeze down the tissue and it will hurt like hell when the tissue is warming up.
Juhanah
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Kinda like the fact that you can stand under your own meteor shower without taking a hit. Meteor falling from the sky hurts.. no matter who or what made them fall.
Illuminator
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The cool thing about fantasy is it doesn't have to make sense.
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Oh yeah someone posted about obsidian, thats some expensive stuff so why fight with it when u can sell it? And if you could summon obsidian, why not create a storm of small obsidian shards, that would be effective imho
OhCrapLions
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It hurts, every 3 seconds for balance issues. A-net tries to have a very logic game were everything has an explination.
Oh yeah someone posted about obsidian, thats some expensive stuff so why fight with it when u can sell it? And if you could summon obsidian, why not create a storm of small obsidian shards, that would be effective imho |
Illuminator
How does the earth enhance the weapons performance?
gameshoes3003
There was a thread for this back in 2005 lol. But I just can't see how to make this skill work without making it stupid.
MirageMaster
If you talk about stupid in GW,go look at tyrian glad armor,that ugly bra gives 80 Al with out even covering the body >_>, now thats stupid.even paper ele armor should have more defence then glads.
Sir Tificate
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It could work, if we take obsidian - a material which can make a blade 5 times sharper then steel rap your sword in it via magic and all of a sudden you do more damage. There are many rocks with properties that could be useful for a weapon and as all the other elements have a conjure skill it is a little strange that earth does not.
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Conjure Obsidian*
Elite Enchantment Spell. For 5..17 seconds, while you are wielding an earth damage weapon, your attacks ignore armor. This Spell causes Exhaustion.
Cost: 10 Cast: 1 Recharge: 30
(Numbers subject to actual balancing.)
Not quite like the other conjures, but certainly useful.
mazey vorstagg
Conjure flame with Mark of Rodgart and hundred blades is my favourite combo. (sure drains you're energy though 
Where is conjure earth?
Where is conjure earth?
Raxxman
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How does the earth enhance the weapons performance?
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He hits you with a feather with the kinetic impact of a baseball bat.
Mitchel
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Wammo is a conjunction of the words 'Warrior' and 'Monk' referring to W/Mo, hence they can't use any elementalist skills.
Actually the Conjure X spells are pretty good skills for melee players and rangers. |
1 Wammo (everyone starts like this)
2 W/E (this is when the wammo starts to realize how "Great" the conjures are)
3 Mo/E (healing + conjures!! z0mg!
4 Mo/W (healing + weps z0mgcopter)
5 W/R (more weps + pets z0mgr0flcopt0rs)
Crom The Pale
Cunjure Earth would be very nice, but would add too much dmg to a defencive line of magic.
As for those that argue about the logic of it, what exactly is coming out of an earth wand/staff? Large rocks?
If you want some logic how about this, E=MC2, therefore elementalist have the power to pull energy out of mass, thereby creating a energy attack out of any solid object - Obsidian Flame anyone?
One workable option for a conjure earth might be to make your attacks unblockable, since there is no evade anymore a weapon with an extreme mass should be able to penatrate any attempt at blocking.
As for those that argue about the logic of it, what exactly is coming out of an earth wand/staff? Large rocks?
If you want some logic how about this, E=MC2, therefore elementalist have the power to pull energy out of mass, thereby creating a energy attack out of any solid object - Obsidian Flame anyone?
One workable option for a conjure earth might be to make your attacks unblockable, since there is no evade anymore a weapon with an extreme mass should be able to penatrate any attempt at blocking.
Realm of Fiery Doom
Hmmm... OK, my feedback.
In a game, logic does not count. If anybody would like to tell me that summoning meteors from the sky to kill Mergoyles is logical, you're giving me a great laugh. I sure need one right now, homework is annoying me immensely.
About the thing that Earth magic is for defense, then:
Why doesn't Conjure Flame have AOE damage?
Why doesn't Conjure Frost slow the enemy down?
Why doesn't Conjure Lightning have 25% armor penetration?
And someone please tell me that the following Earth spells were created for defense, to give me another good laugh.
[skill]Shockwave[/skill]
[skill]Obsidian Flame[/skill]
[skill]Sandstorm[/skill]
In a game, logic does not count. If anybody would like to tell me that summoning meteors from the sky to kill Mergoyles is logical, you're giving me a great laugh. I sure need one right now, homework is annoying me immensely.
About the thing that Earth magic is for defense, then:
Why doesn't Conjure Flame have AOE damage?
Why doesn't Conjure Frost slow the enemy down?
Why doesn't Conjure Lightning have 25% armor penetration?
And someone please tell me that the following Earth spells were created for defense, to give me another good laugh.
[skill]Shockwave[/skill]
[skill]Obsidian Flame[/skill]
[skill]Sandstorm[/skill]