Do people take GW too seriously?

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
I know the post was vague to start off and it was on purpose. I wanted to see the the percentage of people who would give an answer that was straight forward as opposed to sarcastic. Let's just say I got what I expected. For the record I have over 1700 hours of game time and counting, for GW is one of the best games I have ever played.
Good to know this thread was just an "experiment" then.

Well, I hope you realize the reason people responded sarcastically is because you had no point.

Next time, pose a real question, and you may get a real answer.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Good to know this thread was just an "experiment" then.
An interesting experiment, at that. I enjoyed reading the posts nonetheless, so huzzah!

To Risky Ranger: Hell yeah people take this game too seriously. However, I've found that the more serious players are the PvP players. Me and my friend have been guild-hopping for awhile now because every damned guild we found had serious douchebags in them. He got kicked out of our one guild we've been in awhile because he didn't think EW would win the tourney!

So yes, there are quite a handful of people who play this game too seriously.

Rocky Raccoon

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Good to know this thread was just an "experiment" then.

Well, I hope you realize the reason people responded sarcastically is because you had no point.

Next time, pose a real question, and you may get a real answer.
There was nothing vague about (Do people take GW too seriously?). It could be answered with a simple yes or no. The content of the post was the vague part. The reason I got some sarcastic responses is because if you read the posts on a regular basis you will see that is a regular occurance with some people. A majority answer the questions with an honest answer, but you always see the peolple who just like to put others down. I thank the good people who use the forum for constructive purposes whether it is agreement or criticism.

elLOCOmutha

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Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
There was nothing vague about (Do people take GW too seriously?). It could be answered with a simple yes or no. The content of the post was the vague part. The reason I got some sarcastic responses is because if you read the posts on a regular basis you will see that is a regular occurance with some people. A majority answer the questions with an honest answer, but you always see the peolple who just like to put others down. I thank the good people who use the forum for constructive purposes whether it is agreement or criticism.
Ahhhh yes the internet...what a ride. I saw nothing vague in your question. People sometimes forget to have fun while playing a game and that ruins it for alot of others that are on the team.

ensoriki

ensoriki

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

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You know people take the law to seriously.

SCrew those pedophile laws
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People take it seriously because

a) They worked for something hard,or still are


I myself had gw for about 1 and a half years now and dont have those Elite armors yet, getting to it bit by bit.

However if I ever get really close and people start bugging me as soon as im almost there I'd be pissed.


In games there can be chores or there can be fun, for me elite armor is a chore so I would take it seriously if someone messed it up for me.

Some people Love the ease of a game so if theres a nerf there pissed because now its not as easy.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

i got started when a friend on another non GW forum said get the preorder and i will pay for it if you dont like it.

from early beta on i have played for fun.

over multiple accounts i have just under 2000 hours total and several presears with birthday minipets.

i play hero/hench so i can leave at any time for something more important.

example if the cat wants to play/be patted the henchies are parked to live or die and i find out later when i come back.

if it is not fun at the moment i turn it off and do something else.

it is a game that is fun, but still only a game

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Hi Risky Ranger,

Its good to know I'm not the only one out there who plays video games for fun (apparently thats a thing of the past). However, you have to remember. This is the internet here. To some people, the internet is serious business. In some cases, its their LIFE.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

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Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
There was nothing vague about (Do people take GW too seriously?). It could be answered with a simple yes or no. The content of the post was the vague part. The reason I got some sarcastic responses is because if you read the posts on a regular basis you will see that it is a regular occurrence with some people. A majority answer the questions with an honest answer, but you always see the people who just like to put others down. I thank the good people who use the forum for constructive purposes whether it is agreement or criticism.
If this really was the point of the thread, then you could have just asked the question in general chat in LA and you would have gotten the same response. The community needs constructive threads in order to provide constructive answers. Your thread is like throwing a stone in water and watching the ripples form - ripples are made, but the stone sinks to the bottom...

Why don't you start another, more descriptive thread about how people take the game in a negative way? There's lots and lots of threads about those.

Competitiveness is 'married' into competitive games.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
if it is not fun at the moment i turn it off and do something else.
People who don't action what Loviatar does are the ones who have the issue. There's nothing wrong with taking the game too seriously, but when you start running other people down amongst your own frustration, then it is advised that you walk away altogether and return when you've calmed down.

I know you said that people are giving sarcastic comments, but unless you give your first post an indication of what you would consider 'too serious' then any comment that you think is sarcastic is actually valid, all because you didn't give better details in your first post. Heck, there are RP guilds out there, you can very easily say that those people take the game too seriously, but I like playing with them, so the issue is to one's own, really.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Well, I did some missions today, first with a level 20 monk, and second with a level 17 necro. Every team love me with the monk, even kick people for adding me, specially when they see my titles. BUT, everybody kick me when I try to enter a team with the lvl 17 necro, so, YES, people is taking this GAME to seriously. I ended doing the mission with 7 people, one of them level 15, only one level 20 (note I am talking about difficult Cantha mission)

Rene Saliere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

New Zealand

You take a game too seriously if you post on forums about it.

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rene Saliere
You take a game too seriously if you post on forums about it.
^


or if your bored at work....

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

I'd guess it's a matter of temperament. Perfectionists are perfectionists are perfectionists. Slackers are slackers are slackers.

It's nice to think you can escape from yourself, but it's rarely true. All the same faults and manias and strengths usually carry through.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
There was nothing vague about (Do people take GW too seriously?). It could be answered with a simple yes or no. The content of the post was the vague part. The reason I got some sarcastic responses is because if you read the posts on a regular basis you will see that is a regular occurance with some people. A majority answer the questions with an honest answer, but you always see the peolple who just like to put others down. I thank the good people who use the forum for constructive purposes whether it is agreement or criticism.
Hmph. IMO, it was a troll question, designed to illicit an emotional response.

And, I'm sorry, but "Do people take GW too seriously?" is totally vague.

Do people take life too seriously? Do people take their job too seriously?

Without example or definitions, you're going to get widely different reponses. For some people, playing the game more than 2 hours a day is "too seriously." For others, people who "role-play" their characters are "too serious."

Obviously, the people who shout "noob" and run around insulting people in-game are annoying... but is the problem they take the game "too seriously" or do they not take the game serious enough.


But, if you think this was a contructive question, let me pose another, very similar question and see what you think:

Is Guild Wars fun?

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

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A valid question with a simple answer. YES!!!

cyberjanet

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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Rich Mahogany

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
If this really was the point of the thread, then you could have just asked the question in general chat in LA and you would have gotten the same response.
I beg to differ.

The answer you would have gotten in LA would be something like

WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!


Yeah, I do take the game too seriously I guess.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rene Saliere
You take a game too seriously if you post on forums about it.
I'm gonna say that there are exceptions to that. I frequent these forums a lot, but I haven't been playing the game a lot.

And Mordakai, why are you so upset at this thread? I haven't seen his post as trolling at all. It seemed rather modest, to me, and it's actually sparking some decent posts. Vague questions can lead to good discussion.

tyche7

tyche7

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Nebraska

The Killer Panda Bears

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Seeing how much time and effort I've put into this - yes I take it seriously. Too seriously. (-: But I love it.

tayos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Frozen North

United Union

P/Rt

((lol, trolls, get your farm builds on!))

Seeing as I recently breached 4,000 hours... Uh... maybe? I've seen so many people "take the game too seriously" and others demand that players who get into something this harshly relax, etc. A big chunk of that time for me though was spent just goofing around or being AFK.

There's plenty enough reason to take the game (too) seriously, at least, the PvP component. World tournament can earn you a decent amount of fame (and soon fortune too). But there are times to be serious, and times not to. If I'm on a limited time frame for a mission, I'll mention it, but I won't cry that we couldn't finish it in time, or that we got too hasty at one point since I can pick it all up later with my friends provided they don't mind coming along again.

Frankly, I don't really care. I've had a good game experience overall, and I never needed to come up with the most elite teams ever, or farm for the phattest lewt. If someone wants to become a champion, or live in a dream world where they think they're king because of the armor set they're wearing, let them. I don't like being shunned because I don't have a certain Hero rank, but that's fine, I'll take my arbitrary insight elsewhere and just have some real fun.

Those who are just plain happy with the game tend to keep quiet since they're too busy just playing the thing, you'll have to ask them in-game at random to get a real opinion out.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

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Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberjanet
I beg to differ.

The answer you would have gotten in LA would be something like

WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
WTS...PERFECT RARE SKIN AXE...35K WISP ME!!!!
You missed my point. The answer wasn't the focus, the response was. I'm saying that if the OP asked this question in LA dis 1, then the response would be irrelevant to the question, so for the example you gave, it 'would' be a bunch of trade spam.

My point? The OP asked the wrong question, the response that the OP got was all spam...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
A valid question with a simple answer. YES!!!
The difference is that Mordakai didn't need to make a thread in order to get an answer to that question. Notice how your response to Mordakai's question was short? Is it possible to further discuss a person who has fun playing guildwars without leaving the answer as it is?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryant again
It seemed rather modest, to me, and it's actually sparking some decent posts. Vague questions can lead to good discussion.
Vague questions give loose discussions that can't be tied together, this is especially so when the OP is uninterested in directing the thread... It's hard to say one thing, and then read another person's post that says something on another spectrum, and then expect yourself to relate to it...

Reinfire

Reinfire

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Amsterdam, NL

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Im at 1200 hours in nearly 16 months. Not too bad, considering quite a bit of it is being afk.

Its not really the game I like that much, its the community. I established quite a good connection with some of my fellow guildies, I dont see them as random ppl on the internet, but something much closer.

Reinfire

Reinfire

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Amsterdam, NL

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Im at 1200 hours in nearly 16 months. Not too bad, considering quite a bit of it is being afk.

Its not really the game I like that much, its the community. I established quite a good connection with some of my fellow guildies, I dont see them as random ppl on the internet, but something much closer.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

If the purpose of a forum is discussion, then I feel that my question at least generated that. Whether it was positive or negative I have no control of that and as long as the neagtive is not abusive in nature I can also accept that.

Master Sword Keeper

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Dead Isle

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Man....The game is a international ICON. Many players take the game seriously depending on the price of the game. IMO since my trilogy of Guild Wars costed me nearly $300 I'm taking this game serious enough. As for gameplay since the nerfs and taking away vital codes to make farming accessable the game is next to nothing...More or less a WoW clone.

So I'm still missing the old Guild Wars Days... Back then it was easy to get the money to buy armour...now it takes ages. oh well...Srry i'm a guild wars fan boy here. Love the game and everything about it. Except the nerfs.

Mohnzh

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Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld...

[KCOR]

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I agree the question is extremely vague, but I disagree that it was inappropriate.

Vague: Everyone is going to have a different idea of what "too seriously" means. Some would say I take the game too seriously because I am a title hunter. Others would say that I don't because I don't PvP and I took time off to play FFXII. Nobody is going to think of themselves as taking the game too seriously, but will always be able to look at another and think that other person does. The other person may hold the exact opposite opinion. Who is right? Depends on who knows what "too seriously" means (which everyone, of course, thinks he does). I think a better question would be, "What constitutes taking this game too seriously, and what % of people fall into that category in the game?".

Appropriate: This is a discussion generating forum. Hurray for TC for making a "hot" thread. I can see how it could be construed to seem like a troll thread, BUT I do not think that was the purpose. Don't accuse him just because you do not like the thread or think it should have been done differently. Discuss how you would have approached it, but congenially.

As to the question: who am I to say I know what "too seriously" means? I will choose not to be so arrogant as to presume I can tell others whether they take it too seriously or not.

Yichi

Yichi

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

short answer... YES

Saphrium

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Granite Citadel

Post Searing Ascalonian Merchants

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It doesn't matter what you play or what you do, do it your way, no matter what others say.

First of all if I play a game, and I am interested in playing it, I would learn the inside and out of a game, and be good at it, I will never do something half ass-ed because I couldn't or wouldn't put effort into it, the reward is, I got something from what I do that most of others got none. They don't have a good build, I got a few I can use, I know my strength and weakness from these efforts, I know how to use them and how to avoid them, I know how to deal with people who can deal with my strength and people who can exploit my weakness and so on. Yes it is a game, and it is always a kind of game that I would play to understand myself, others and the world. Now many would say it applies nothing to the real world, sure, for a near sighted person of course(they meant immediate job training skills, financial gains or usable asset to put on a resume), if playing a game doesn't serve your purpose and you let it control or influence you, maybe you should get out of it, if you are not financially secure and not studying or participating in this profession(game design) maybe you should not take it the way I am.

All in all, it is a game, but if there are other people involved in it, you better make sure you can at least live up to the expectations, "too relaxed" would get you kicked out of the group(At least as a group lead I would, because there are 6 more people who I can not ignore their will to succeed in a mission, taking a "too relaxed" you is conflicting the majority goal.) If you are in any kind of situation when others depend on you to do your thing right and efficient, you have to have that ability to deliver, this not only applies to a game, but applies in real life as well.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
short answer... YES
...and NO.

You will find as many opinions as there are people. And that's my point:

without defining what "too seriously" means, this discussion can have no real point, just a cacophony of noise signifying nothing.

Now, by no means am I against "free speech" or the right of this thread to exist. Quite the contrary, my problem with this thread is that without a framework for discussion, can you really talk?

So, add up the "yays" and "nays" and let's be done with it. Or, reframe the question so we can have an actual discussion about specifics.

(I still don't even know what part of Guild Wars we are talking about, casual PvE play, or high-end PvP tournaments worth real money?)

filipino=pinoy

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

I have seen many people in districts flaming, bashing and spewing racial slurrs in every sentence they say. When I say people will report you for that and is against the EULA, their only protest would be " why do you want to ruin my fun?!?!?".

So yes people do take GW seriously.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by filipino=pinoy
I have seen many people in districts flaming, bashing and spewing racial slurrs in every sentence they say. When I say people will report you for that and is against the EULA, their only protest would be " why do you want to ruin my fun?!?!?".

So yes people do take GW seriously.
I made that point awhile ago... people like that are not taking Guild Wars seriously enough.

Yes, it's all fun and games until you cross the line and say something unacceptable. (And flaming racist / sexist things is NOT free speech. Which doesn't really exist anyway, since ALL forms of communication have "guardians.")

I doubt this is what the OP was talking about, but I'm sure he'll claim it falls under the umbrella of his vague question.

payne

payne

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dj Tano
The way Guild Wars is made makes it extremely easy to get addicted...

WTF?

Are you kidding me?

This game is not an addicting game as it:

1) Has a lvl20 cap making you not have to spend months and months to get to lvl100.

2) Has a weapon and armor cap, making you not have to spend months and months to get the best armor and weapons.

3) Has a closed storyline, making the story actually end after 1-2 months of playing.

After you have reached lvl20, got max armor and weapons, and have finished the campaigns, the only thing to do is stick to pvp.

How is that addictive?

wtf are you on about....guild wars is addicting...so what if there is a lvl cap? you can create multiple chars and some of the titles can take months (if not years) to get at a maxed out lvl...the game was made to be addictive, that makes it a good game with multiple things to do, you cant say the game is pointless once you have got to lv 20 and got some half decent weps!

EternalTempest

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United States

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It's a game it's suppose to be fun.

If you really like a game, people get passionated about it. Passion brings "serious".
Some people "focus" on something and make it part of there lives be it Gw or Wow for example.
There friends are on in and to "socialize" with them... they kinda have to play despite how the feel about it.

Example of some of the reason

That being said, if you don't have fun... stop playing / take a break.
I've put GW down for a few months then come back. One of the reason's I really like GW. You can pick up where you left off.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I doubt this is what the OP was talking about, but I'm sure he'll claim it falls under the umbrella of his vague question.
I take offense when people start talking for me. Please make no assumptions on my part. If you are offended by the original post, that is fine as it is your opinion and I accept that that you disagree with me. The fact that this thread is still being posted to, must mean something. A vague question doesn't mean it's a bad question and you can always give a vague answer.

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

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Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

If you find yourself yelling at people over vent, or typing in all caps in local chat, you're taking the game to seriously.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

My philosohpy teacher once told us that games are completely evil - just there to sit and fall into a dream world of killing people things, and often yourself, and then you wake up and find how much time you have wasted.... I got to stop games one day lol

Tylos Angelheart

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Leigon of the Shattered Dagger

R/Mo

It is easy to get addicted but hey if you enjoy doing summin isnt everything easy to get addicted to? That doubled up with the fact that the entire world is made up as if its a real breathing environment and well its easy to get drawn in lol.... well theres my input and if anyone wants to sit and call me weied so be it :P i love the game and countless other people feel the same.... so there :P lol

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
If you find yourself yelling at people over vent, or typing in all caps in local chat, you're taking the game to seriously.
QFT.

To add...If you also find yourself buying gold for the game with RL money...you take game to seriosuly.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

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Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
If you find yourself yelling at people over vent, or typing in all caps in local chat, you're taking the game to seriously.
Quote:
Originally Posted by savage vapor 33
To add...If you also find yourself buying gold for the game with RL money...you take game to seriosuly.
Very true. What's worse, I know a person who does the first, and another that does the second. Everytime I hear about it, I just shake my head.

silvershock

silvershock

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Join Date: Aug 2005

The Netherlands

Red Lightning Brigade

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Some people take Guild wars to seriously indd.

I've noticed this happens a lot to players who are younger than 15 years old.
(This doesnt mean all players who are younger than 15 are taking guild wars too seriously)

Now here comes the bad part: most people who take guild wars too seriously have little to do in their real lifes. Don't think this is an instult, based on what I've seen i say it's save to make that conclusion.

These people seem to want to become 1 with the virtual world, instead of accepting it as what it is: Fiction. They seem to nag on for hours about stuff that doesnt really matter and want to act very serious to everything you say.
For instance:

Guy in my guild gets promoted by accident. He recruits some people and turns out to be good at it. I come online and put in the anouncement:
"Plz no more promoting people to officer without asking me or blablabla"

The guy whispers me if hes gonna get demoted and I say: "Nah you can stay officer, you seem to be good at recruiting so if you continue this you would make us all very happy.

The next 50 minutes I'm getting nagged to death by him stating that he's worried he gets demoted and really cares for the guild and cares for the members and so on and so on. I mention several times he has nothing to worry about but this only seems to make him more worried about losing his (this is what he called it) "job".

I state being an officer in a fictional game is hardly something you can call a job. Maybe it might be seen as a hobby by some, but that's about it.

The next thing I know I'm getting nagged to death for another 50 minutes on how I shouldn't disrespect Guild Wars and such.

This is a typical example of what I like to call: The UNDEAD. (They have no lives but haven't died yet)

shadowmist

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Sanctity of Shadows

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I think it's possible to take GW too seriously, but in general I don't think the majority of people take it seriously enough. If I play the game, I don't want to spend my time losing missions because some guy decided to go fool around or something. And then there's the people that run around purposely ruining the game for others, doing things to ruin missions, quests, pvp, whatever.

So while my answer to your question is yes, I also think more people need to take the game more seriously. Or at least how to play nice with others and not hide behind the "It's just a game!" excuse.

LethalHands

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

About as seriously as people take changes to the game, such as skill balances and modifications to certain mechanics.