The Chestrunners Thread
Coney
When I have run kilroy boxing for chests, it takes around 1:40 turnaround time if the chest is in the first 2 rooms (ettin/2 wolves). Pretty slow, worse than Boreal...
Tenebrae
No , Kilroy is straight run and its about 1-2 min. Boreal is 1-3min , they are pretty much the same. When you are relying on those times , the place you run is not the main prob , the main prob is rezoning time . There is where your seconds fly away .....
Coney
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the main prob is rezoning time . There is where your seconds fly away .....
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Maybe if you're running with 1GB or less of memory, crappy/slow HD access, and/or a sub-par processor. Rezone time for me is like 10 seconds MAX (2GB RAM, sata raid 0 striping, core 2 duo), but more like about 5 seconds typically.
/resign is TERRIBLE for kilroy, as you have to wait 10 seconds , and then it puts you FAR AWAY from him to re-enter (better to map-travel and still FAR AWAY). In Boreal, /resign is pretty much instant, and you're about 2 seconds from the zone portal (if you enter/exit/enter at the beginning)...
FWIW, MAX boreal runs take 2 minutes, if you actually run over the bridge past the res shrine to the MOB haven. I usually stop *around* the bridge and resign, with about 1 in 10 runs coming up empty. I have had some bad strings at times, where 2-3 runs in a row are empty - but also see about 1-2 runs in 10 where 2-3 chests pop...
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Did some run timing:
Kilroy: ~0:10 to run to him in town (including selecting quest instance for entry)
~1:20 to get to chest in wolf room
Boreal: ~0:02 to run to zone and enter
~0:50 to run past bridge and scan full north-west for chest (0:40 when chest pops by bridge)
BUILD: [build prof=R/A exp=3 wil=12 sha=12][Shadow Form][Death's Charge]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Dwarven Stability][Dash][Natural Stride][Feigned Neutrality][Heart of Shadow][/build] (allows maintained 42% increased run speed with max EotN title)
Kilroy apparently has the advantage of chests dropping armor, which can net sup vigor rune (apparently not possible in Boreal)...
If still working on drunkard, worth quaffing 5pt(3pt) alcohol at entrance and running the full 2 minutes to MOB haven then /resign, as you'll get 3 alcohol points for 2 minutes run...
superraptors
the thing is, boreal is much faster - pack 3 heroes with paragon skills and youll be even faster and i suggest carry dwarven stability when using dash, helps alot
dr love
doesn't anyone do CoF chest runs? there's usually 1-2 chests in 2min and it seems faster than boreal, or at least is a good break from it.
Atro
this isnt that fast but its a fun one, I chst run in SoO occassionally, some good drops there are Serrated Spears and Draconic Spears.
I've tried it on my warrior ranger, paragon, and sin, just take running/healing skills and take the para secondary and take CTT and you should be fine but try to avoid all the monsters possible.
I've tried it on my warrior ranger, paragon, and sin, just take running/healing skills and take the para secondary and take CTT and you should be fine but try to avoid all the monsters possible.
Tenebrae
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This is kinda irrelevant, as it's there regardless of which farm you choose... However,
Maybe if you're running with 1GB or less of memory, crappy/slow HD access, and/or a sub-par processor. Rezone time for me is like 10 seconds MAX (2GB RAM, sata raid 0 striping, core 2 duo), but more like about 5 seconds typically. |
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FWIW, MAX boreal runs take 2 minutes, if you actually run over the bridge past the res shrine to the MOB haven. I usually stop *around* the bridge and resign, with about 1 in 10 runs coming up empty. I have had some bad strings at times, where 2-3 runs in a row are empty - but also see about 1-2 runs in 10 where 2-3 chests pop...
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mage767
I already maxed my treasure hunter title...here are some thoughts:
1) Mirror of Lyss HM SR (2 min max) - great for elite tomes farm, most items are junk, but some ruby weapons salvage into gems, so take advantage of it.
2) Boreal HM: Generally quicker than Lyss but less rarer drops. Only once in a blue moon can you get a serrated spear. Tome drops are common.
3) Kilroy HM/NM: Boring run, and very bad reload times.
4) SoO HM/NM: Farmable using perma, start at Sparkfly and go to Vlox entrance (and slightly past it to gate), rezone in Vlox, and repeat backwards.
5) Bogroots HM/NM: Use two accounts for this. First account is idle in lvl1. Let second account chest run whole of lvl1, its pretty easy with perma. Kill some rit bosses for fun if you like chance at elite tomes. Then have account 1 rezone to sparkfly.
6) Domain of Fear HM/NM: Ghostly staff/,magma shield farm, everyone knows this. Easiest with perma, but war/monks/others w/remove hex can also do it.
Tip: Use 2 or more accounts and load them on same map, while running chest on just one account. There is a small chance you can get lucky and get 2+ elite tomes drop.
1) Mirror of Lyss HM SR (2 min max) - great for elite tomes farm, most items are junk, but some ruby weapons salvage into gems, so take advantage of it.
2) Boreal HM: Generally quicker than Lyss but less rarer drops. Only once in a blue moon can you get a serrated spear. Tome drops are common.
3) Kilroy HM/NM: Boring run, and very bad reload times.
4) SoO HM/NM: Farmable using perma, start at Sparkfly and go to Vlox entrance (and slightly past it to gate), rezone in Vlox, and repeat backwards.
5) Bogroots HM/NM: Use two accounts for this. First account is idle in lvl1. Let second account chest run whole of lvl1, its pretty easy with perma. Kill some rit bosses for fun if you like chance at elite tomes. Then have account 1 rezone to sparkfly.
6) Domain of Fear HM/NM: Ghostly staff/,magma shield farm, everyone knows this. Easiest with perma, but war/monks/others w/remove hex can also do it.
Tip: Use 2 or more accounts and load them on same map, while running chest on just one account. There is a small chance you can get lucky and get 2+ elite tomes drop.
Madeentje
I used to always run in Boreal Station for chests, which is in my opinion the fastest way to get along the title, although that was in HM. In NM it's another story... It seems alot less chests tend to drop then . Does anyone know the fastest area in NM? As now I discovered in NM you get much less Lucky points, and equally Unlucky points, and I also want both of those titles maxed (not to mention NM is also cheaper), I'm going for NM.
superraptors
if u want speed i suggest HM otherwise NM for costwise
Madeentje
I want speed, but I also want Lucky and Unlucky...So I guess NM is the way to go, but it seems that Boreal is bad in NM, what should I go for then?
superraptors
witman follys nm be your best bet for nm chests 2-3 chest in 2-4 mins, lots of armors [mostly purple] and non inscriptable tyrian junk weps
Ewon
Fastest chest run I have found was Gyala Hatchery. After you learn where the chests spawn it is really fast. You just need to learn when to stop a run if you have already gotten 3 chests, and the last spawn is 2-3 mins away. Faster to restart. I have opened 15k chests now and have found this spot best(nm anyway) I have been able to farm 65-70/hour here (55+ is pretty easy here)
Adriaanz#Shiro
Is there a posibility of the Original Post to be updated with some runs? Searching through the entire thread is somewhat annoying..
Thanks in advance,
Shiro
Thanks in advance,
Shiro
Quartermaine
I had 2 elite tomes drop from 1 chest just out side slavers exile.
T1Cybernetic
There is one thing missing from this thread, Chest running for lucky points!
Does anyone know any good locations where low level chests can be run with ease for lucky points? I finished my treasure hunter title and only need 200k points to max my lucky but if i see boreal station again any time soon i think i will go insane!
Does anyone know any good locations where low level chests can be run with ease for lucky points? I finished my treasure hunter title and only need 200k points to max my lucky but if i see boreal station again any time soon i think i will go insane!
aefghuys
i see a lot of people chest running for the title... well i have under 30 lockpicks, and i was wondering...what is the best place to chest run for the best loot(cant do hm in eotn)?
aspi
I always ask myself this question, is there even such a thing a the best place to run? Is a High end dungeon more worth it, or any high end place for that matter.
_Nihilist_
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I always ask myself this question, is there even such a thing a the best place to run? Is a High end dungeon more worth it, or any high end place for that matter.
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If you're looking for specific drops from the chests, you'll have to run in specific zones where those items drop.
If you're looking for Lucky/Unlucky points, you'll have to run where you have a high chance to retain/break Lockpicks.
If you're looking for Treasure Hunter points, you'll have to run where you can hit the most chests in the shortest timeframe.
If you're looking for Wisdom Seeker points, you'll have to run where you get a decent amount of gold item drops (and you might find it easier to just buy unid'ed golds from other players).
Thierry2
For Unlucky/Lucky I suggest HM tbh. You'll be happy when lockpicks finally break when u have chest + lucky already and just need lucky. So I'd say run HM for unlucky first and if you still don't have lucky after that do some NM runs.
Tenebrae
Lucky is longer than unlucky , go first on low lvl chests and use rings to max unlucky , thats the way to go.
aspi
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It all depends on what you are looking for.
If you're looking for specific drops from the chests, you'll have to run in specific zones where those items drop. If you're looking for Lucky/Unlucky points, you'll have to run where you have a high chance to retain/break Lockpicks. If you're looking for Treasure Hunter points, you'll have to run where you can hit the most chests in the shortest timeframe. If you're looking for Wisdom Seeker points, you'll have to run where you get a decent amount of gold item drops (and you might find it easier to just buy unid'ed golds from other players). |
Trx
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Is there an anti chest running code pertaining to drops? I didnt look really hard, but didnt find any info.
New areas are pretty good to me, then drops turn to crap real fast. As you can see I am also interested in golds. Last night after 15 hm snowman runs items went from all golds and elite tomes to all grapes so I stopped. |
imnotyourmother
hi guys.. well my 2 cents.
I run Ascalon Foothills in Normal Mode to get my Lucky Title up. I am currently at 900,000 lucky and lv 4 treasure hunter.
Ascalon Foothills yields 1 chest every 1.5 minutes including mapping with a second account - saves some running.
When I get bored I sometimes run Eye of the North Chests outside of Borials Pass. You can get 1 chest in hard mode with mapping in 2 minutes or less.
Or for some fun with no build needed at all, do the Killroy's punchout. There is a chest there every run and takes about 2 minutes.
For Lucky title Ascalon Foothills is the best place to run lockpicks. I have a 88% chance to retain and that is soon to be at 90% WOOT.
I run Ascalon Foothills in Normal Mode to get my Lucky Title up. I am currently at 900,000 lucky and lv 4 treasure hunter.
Ascalon Foothills yields 1 chest every 1.5 minutes including mapping with a second account - saves some running.
When I get bored I sometimes run Eye of the North Chests outside of Borials Pass. You can get 1 chest in hard mode with mapping in 2 minutes or less.
Or for some fun with no build needed at all, do the Killroy's punchout. There is a chest there every run and takes about 2 minutes.
For Lucky title Ascalon Foothills is the best place to run lockpicks. I have a 88% chance to retain and that is soon to be at 90% WOOT.
MagisterSum
For those who run with sin skills and bring P/W, W/P hero builds, I'm guessing that you flag the heroes away while you run into mobs for the chests? I've also seen Shadow of Haste to shadow step back to the original trail. How about bringing Recall instead? Cast it on a hero, flag them further up your path, run in, get the chest, and then cancel recall. Skills will be disabled for a few seconds, but that shouldn't be a bother, and you'll shave a few seconds off of the run. What do you think?
system.fan
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For those who run with sin skills and bring P/W, W/P hero builds, I'm guessing that you flag the heroes away while you run into mobs for the chests? I've also seen Shadow of Haste to shadow step back to the original trail. How about bringing Recall instead? Cast it on a hero, flag them further up your path, run in, get the chest, and then cancel recall. Skills will be disabled for a few seconds, but that shouldn't be a bother, and you'll shave a few seconds off of the run. What do you think?
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Already finished my Treasure Hunter... Got ~18.000 Chests opened now and like 300.000 away from lucky title max...
ran with hero's + hench all the time... 3 Paragons as hero's, 2 warriors, 2 monks...
I didnt flag anything and i didnt do any micro managment with hero's skills...
Most of the PvE-Mobs are just tooooo weak....
The Healing from "Fall Back!" is enough in most cases...
Or you can use Shadowform and run in the Mob as first person to get aggro from all... so most foes won't attack hench...
after that just break aggro with dash....
even if all henchs get killed while running... who care's?
its still faster than flag, and waste time with casting spells u dont need...
For Lucky Title...
IMO Sunqua Vale is best... in NM of course^^
you start @ Monastery...
Run into the first entrance of the Cave with all the Mantid inside, near Cho's Estates...
There is ALWAYS a chest inside... most times in 1 of the first 2 groups of enemys.
takes like 1min for run and 10seconds to zone....
Sethellington
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too complicated to do that all the time on a run with 5 chests on the way imo =)
Already finished my Treasure Hunter... Got ~18.000 Chests opened now and like 300.000 away from lucky title max... ran with hero's + hench all the time... 3 Paragons as hero's, 2 warriors, 2 monks... I didnt flag anything and i didnt do any micro managment with hero's skills... Most of the PvE-Mobs are just tooooo weak.... The Healing from "Fall Back!" is enough in most cases... Or you can use Shadowform and run in the Mob as first person to get aggro from all... so most foes won't attack hench... after that just break aggro with dash.... even if all henchs get killed while running... who care's? its still faster than flag, and waste time with casting spells u dont need... For Lucky Title... IMO Sunqua Vale is best... in NM of course^^ you start @ Monastery... Run into the first entrance of the Cave with all the Mantid inside, near Cho's Estates... There is ALWAYS a chest inside... most times in 1 of the first 2 groups of enemys. takes like 1min for run and 10seconds to zone.... |
Tenebrae
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For Lucky Title...
IMO Sunqua Vale is best... in NM of course^^ you start @ Monastery... Run into the first entrance of the Cave with all the Mantid inside, near Cho's Estates... There is ALWAYS a chest inside... most times in 1 of the first 2 groups of enemys. takes like 1min for run and 10seconds to zone.... |
system.fan
upier
Guys a bit of help.
I need to max my Unlucky.
Lucky is maxed.
Chest is 3 - close to 4.
Did some Boreal runs. Now if I understand this correctly this is the math:
In HM my RR is 31. Which means that I should be getting some 31 * 2.5 * 69 unlucky points if I were to open 100 chests. On average of course.
IN NM my RR should be 61. That means I should get 61 * 2.5 * 39 points.
5.347,5 unlucky points per 100 chests opened in HM.
5.947,5 in NM.
That means I should get more points in NM and I should keep almost twice as many lockpicks - which means I can run the chests much longer with a certain amount of picks (=money) effectively almost doubling the unlucky points I get in NM.
And once I reach rank 4 in Chest
34 * 2.5 * 66 = 5.610 unlucky point per 100 chests in HM
and 64 * 2.5 * 36 = 5.760 in NM.
Now the questions are:
1. how much worse are the chest drops in NM if I were to decide to go after the ID title also?
2. anything wrong with the math or did interpret the data wrong?
Thanks!
I need to max my Unlucky.
Lucky is maxed.
Chest is 3 - close to 4.
Did some Boreal runs. Now if I understand this correctly this is the math:
In HM my RR is 31. Which means that I should be getting some 31 * 2.5 * 69 unlucky points if I were to open 100 chests. On average of course.
IN NM my RR should be 61. That means I should get 61 * 2.5 * 39 points.
5.347,5 unlucky points per 100 chests opened in HM.
5.947,5 in NM.
That means I should get more points in NM and I should keep almost twice as many lockpicks - which means I can run the chests much longer with a certain amount of picks (=money) effectively almost doubling the unlucky points I get in NM.
And once I reach rank 4 in Chest
34 * 2.5 * 66 = 5.610 unlucky point per 100 chests in HM
and 64 * 2.5 * 36 = 5.760 in NM.
Now the questions are:
1. how much worse are the chest drops in NM if I were to decide to go after the ID title also?
2. anything wrong with the math or did interpret the data wrong?
Thanks!
Volo
chest drop in nm is junk if you plan on doing boreal go hm you get elite tomes and a bunch of unids. if you sell your unids you MIGHT break even and your unlucky will go up.
system.fan
1. NM = everything is crap at boreal... really everything! =)
HM = maybe elite tomes, serrated spears, scythe & spear mods, 20% forget me not...
i'd do chestruns in HM if i were you...
its only like 3 or 4 broken picks difference per hour... not such a big difference on way to max title i think =)
HM = maybe elite tomes, serrated spears, scythe & spear mods, 20% forget me not...
i'd do chestruns in HM if i were you...
its only like 3 or 4 broken picks difference per hour... not such a big difference on way to max title i think =)
upier
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1. NM = everything is crap at boreal... really everything! =)
HM = maybe elite tomes, serrated spears, scythe & spear mods, 20% forget me not... i'd do chestruns in HM if i were you... its only like 3 or 4 broken picks difference per hour... not such a big difference on way to max title i think =) |
And it certainly shouldn't be only 3 or 4 picks per hour. If I do some 30 runs per hour - I should break almost 70% of picks in HM compared to a bit over 30% in NM. And that means around 20 broken in HM vs 10 in NM.
And that does add up - considering I'll need to do around 5k chest runs - and that means around 2k more picks if I were to do it in HM.
superraptors
i dont see how u can be motivated to run grapes instead of golds, wasting id kits on purple adds up if u havent already got max wisdom already
running chests is fun when u get golds, thats why when back in the day people would argue who should open the chest first, if its gold then everyone follows, if its purple then u pretty much got owned, was so fun back then didnt even seem like grinding
i suggest HM, more golds, more profit, if ur not making profit then ur doing it wrong, lastly its about the motivation to go on, 5k is a long way to go even tho ur half way
but as of right now i suggest waiting till easter! i need bout 500 to go, can easily do that in 3-4 hours easter
running chests is fun when u get golds, thats why when back in the day people would argue who should open the chest first, if its gold then everyone follows, if its purple then u pretty much got owned, was so fun back then didnt even seem like grinding
i suggest HM, more golds, more profit, if ur not making profit then ur doing it wrong, lastly its about the motivation to go on, 5k is a long way to go even tho ur half way
but as of right now i suggest waiting till easter! i need bout 500 to go, can easily do that in 3-4 hours easter
upier
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i dont see how u can be motivated to run grapes instead of golds, wasting id kits on purple adds up if u havent already got max wisdom already
running chests is fun when u get golds, thats why when back in the day people would argue who should open the chest first, if its gold then everyone follows, if its purple then u pretty much got owned, was so fun back then didnt even seem like grinding i suggest HM, more golds, more profit, if ur not making profit then ur doing it wrong, lastly its about the motivation to go on, 5k is a long way to go even tho ur half way but as of right now i suggest waiting till easter! i need bout 500 to go, can easily do that in 3-4 hours easter |
Hence why I asked.
Volo
if you are soo worried about money than wait till easter and raptor farm your ass off
aspi
dr love
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The problem is that if my math is correct, the difference between NM and HM drops needs to amount to around the value of some 2k lockpicks IF I choose to not care about the ID title but just go as high as I can go. Which means that HM drops need to bring in some 2,5 mil gold more than NM drops would. And based on the fact that most of the Boreal drops are merch crap - I don't see that happening.
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Marvin the Martian
Hi, so I want to Max my lucky title, and I hear that chest running in NM on noob-island is a great and cheap way to do this. However, it's so hard to find a good area to do this quickly and to find an almost constant chest. Can anyone give me a good area for this please? Thanks!
system.fan
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if you are soo worried about money than wait till easter and raptor farm your ass off
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we're talking about lucky title not treasure hunter... (if u meant to farm golden eggs for title)
@Marvin the Martian:
Try this one:
In the cave there's a Shing-Jea-Chest in like 9/10 cases...
greetz