The Chestrunners Thread

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

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Originally Posted by _Nihilist_ View Post
Interesting. Maybe I just can't pass up the opportunity to kick the ever-loving crap out of a horde of Stone Summit and that's how I ended up fighting the little buggers all this time... I'll have to try this next time I log on.

TY 4 the Head's Up.
When I have run kilroy boxing for chests, it takes around 1:40 turnaround time if the chest is in the first 2 rooms (ettin/2 wolves). Pretty slow, worse than Boreal...

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

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No , Kilroy is straight run and its about 1-2 min. Boreal is 1-3min , they are pretty much the same. When you are relying on those times , the place you run is not the main prob , the main prob is rezoning time . There is where your seconds fly away .....

Coney

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae View Post
the main prob is rezoning time . There is where your seconds fly away .....
This is kinda irrelevant, as it's there regardless of which farm you choose... However,

Maybe if you're running with 1GB or less of memory, crappy/slow HD access, and/or a sub-par processor. Rezone time for me is like 10 seconds MAX (2GB RAM, sata raid 0 striping, core 2 duo), but more like about 5 seconds typically.

/resign is TERRIBLE for kilroy, as you have to wait 10 seconds , and then it puts you FAR AWAY from him to re-enter (better to map-travel and still FAR AWAY). In Boreal, /resign is pretty much instant, and you're about 2 seconds from the zone portal (if you enter/exit/enter at the beginning)...

FWIW, MAX boreal runs take 2 minutes, if you actually run over the bridge past the res shrine to the MOB haven. I usually stop *around* the bridge and resign, with about 1 in 10 runs coming up empty. I have had some bad strings at times, where 2-3 runs in a row are empty - but also see about 1-2 runs in 10 where 2-3 chests pop...

EDIT:
Did some run timing:

Kilroy: ~0:10 to run to him in town (including selecting quest instance for entry)
~1:20 to get to chest in wolf room

Boreal: ~0:02 to run to zone and enter
~0:50 to run past bridge and scan full north-west for chest (0:40 when chest pops by bridge)
BUILD: [build prof=R/A exp=3 wil=12 sha=12][Shadow Form][Death's Charge]["I Am Unstoppable!"][Dwarven Stability][Dash][Natural Stride][Feigned Neutrality][Heart of Shadow][/build] (allows maintained 42% increased run speed with max EotN title)

Kilroy apparently has the advantage of chests dropping armor, which can net sup vigor rune (apparently not possible in Boreal)...

If still working on drunkard, worth quaffing 5pt(3pt) alcohol at entrance and running the full 2 minutes to MOB haven then /resign, as you'll get 3 alcohol points for 2 minutes run...

superraptors

superraptors

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the thing is, boreal is much faster - pack 3 heroes with paragon skills and youll be even faster and i suggest carry dwarven stability when using dash, helps alot

dr love

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doesn't anyone do CoF chest runs? there's usually 1-2 chests in 2min and it seems faster than boreal, or at least is a good break from it.

Atro

Atro

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Join Date: Sep 2009

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this isnt that fast but its a fun one, I chst run in SoO occassionally, some good drops there are Serrated Spears and Draconic Spears.

I've tried it on my warrior ranger, paragon, and sin, just take running/healing skills and take the para secondary and take CTT and you should be fine but try to avoid all the monsters possible.

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coney View Post
This is kinda irrelevant, as it's there regardless of which farm you choose... However,

Maybe if you're running with 1GB or less of memory, crappy/slow HD access, and/or a sub-par processor. Rezone time for me is like 10 seconds MAX (2GB RAM, sata raid 0 striping, core 2 duo), but more like about 5 seconds typically.
Well it is not, zoning doesnt depend only on PC ( mine is great dont worry ) and that is why average lyssas mirror is better. Is about 5 chest in 6-7min and has better drops.

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Originally Posted by Coney View Post
FWIW, MAX boreal runs take 2 minutes, if you actually run over the bridge past the res shrine to the MOB haven. I usually stop *around* the bridge and resign, with about 1 in 10 runs coming up empty. I have had some bad strings at times, where 2-3 runs in a row are empty - but also see about 1-2 runs in 10 where 2-3 chests pop...
Im almost on 7k chests now and im not going back on boreal or whittman. Per times+drop+rezones killroy and lyssas mirror win imo. Not to mention builds are easier.

mage767

mage767

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Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

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I already maxed my treasure hunter title...here are some thoughts:

1) Mirror of Lyss HM SR (2 min max) - great for elite tomes farm, most items are junk, but some ruby weapons salvage into gems, so take advantage of it.

2) Boreal HM: Generally quicker than Lyss but less rarer drops. Only once in a blue moon can you get a serrated spear. Tome drops are common.

3) Kilroy HM/NM: Boring run, and very bad reload times.

4) SoO HM/NM: Farmable using perma, start at Sparkfly and go to Vlox entrance (and slightly past it to gate), rezone in Vlox, and repeat backwards.

5) Bogroots HM/NM: Use two accounts for this. First account is idle in lvl1. Let second account chest run whole of lvl1, its pretty easy with perma. Kill some rit bosses for fun if you like chance at elite tomes. Then have account 1 rezone to sparkfly.

6) Domain of Fear HM/NM: Ghostly staff/,magma shield farm, everyone knows this. Easiest with perma, but war/monks/others w/remove hex can also do it.

Tip: Use 2 or more accounts and load them on same map, while running chest on just one account. There is a small chance you can get lucky and get 2+ elite tomes drop.

Madeentje

Madeentje

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Belgium

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I used to always run in Boreal Station for chests, which is in my opinion the fastest way to get along the title, although that was in HM. In NM it's another story... It seems alot less chests tend to drop then . Does anyone know the fastest area in NM? As now I discovered in NM you get much less Lucky points, and equally Unlucky points, and I also want both of those titles maxed (not to mention NM is also cheaper), I'm going for NM.

superraptors

superraptors

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if u want speed i suggest HM otherwise NM for costwise

Madeentje

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Belgium

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I want speed, but I also want Lucky and Unlucky...So I guess NM is the way to go, but it seems that Boreal is bad in NM, what should I go for then?

superraptors

superraptors

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Join Date: Dec 2008

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witman follys nm be your best bet for nm chests 2-3 chest in 2-4 mins, lots of armors [mostly purple] and non inscriptable tyrian junk weps

Ewon

Ewon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dimitjeeuuhh View Post
I want speed, but I also want Lucky and Unlucky...So I guess NM is the way to go, but it seems that Boreal is bad in NM, what should I go for then?
Fastest chest run I have found was Gyala Hatchery. After you learn where the chests spawn it is really fast. You just need to learn when to stop a run if you have already gotten 3 chests, and the last spawn is 2-3 mins away. Faster to restart. I have opened 15k chests now and have found this spot best(nm anyway) I have been able to farm 65-70/hour here (55+ is pretty easy here)

Adriaanz#Shiro

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Is there a posibility of the Original Post to be updated with some runs? Searching through the entire thread is somewhat annoying..

Thanks in advance,

Shiro

Quartermaine

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I had 2 elite tomes drop from 1 chest just out side slavers exile.

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

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There is one thing missing from this thread, Chest running for lucky points!

Does anyone know any good locations where low level chests can be run with ease for lucky points? I finished my treasure hunter title and only need 200k points to max my lucky but if i see boreal station again any time soon i think i will go insane!

aefghuys

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Missouri

Obon

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i see a lot of people chest running for the title... well i have under 30 lockpicks, and i was wondering...what is the best place to chest run for the best loot(cant do hm in eotn)?

aspi

aspi

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Originally Posted by aefghuys View Post
i see a lot of people chest running for the title... well i have under 30 lockpicks, and i was wondering...what is the best place to chest run for the best loot(cant do hm in eotn)?
I always ask myself this question, is there even such a thing a the best place to run? Is a High end dungeon more worth it, or any high end place for that matter.

_Nihilist_

_Nihilist_

Will Bull's Strike for $!

Join Date: Apr 2006

Isle of the Dead

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Originally Posted by aspi View Post
I always ask myself this question, is there even such a thing a the best place to run? Is a High end dungeon more worth it, or any high end place for that matter.
It all depends on what you are looking for.

If you're looking for specific drops from the chests, you'll have to run in specific zones where those items drop.

If you're looking for Lucky/Unlucky points, you'll have to run where you have a high chance to retain/break Lockpicks.

If you're looking for Treasure Hunter points, you'll have to run where you can hit the most chests in the shortest timeframe.

If you're looking for Wisdom Seeker points, you'll have to run where you get a decent amount of gold item drops (and you might find it easier to just buy unid'ed golds from other players).

Thierry2

Thierry2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Madeentje View Post
I want speed, but I also want Lucky and Unlucky...So I guess NM is the way to go, but it seems that Boreal is bad in NM, what should I go for then?
For Unlucky/Lucky I suggest HM tbh. You'll be happy when lockpicks finally break when u have chest + lucky already and just need lucky. So I'd say run HM for unlucky first and if you still don't have lucky after that do some NM runs.

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

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Spain

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Originally Posted by Thierry2 View Post
For Unlucky/Lucky I suggest HM tbh. You'll be happy when lockpicks finally break when u have chest + lucky already and just need lucky. So I'd say run HM for unlucky first and if you still don't have lucky after that do some NM runs.
Lucky is longer than unlucky , go first on low lvl chests and use rings to max unlucky , thats the way to go.

aspi

aspi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Nihilist_ View Post
It all depends on what you are looking for.

If you're looking for specific drops from the chests, you'll have to run in specific zones where those items drop.

If you're looking for Lucky/Unlucky points, you'll have to run where you have a high chance to retain/break Lockpicks.

If you're looking for Treasure Hunter points, you'll have to run where you can hit the most chests in the shortest timeframe.

If you're looking for Wisdom Seeker points, you'll have to run where you get a decent amount of gold item drops (and you might find it easier to just buy unid'ed golds from other players).
I would go for the most unique drops, weapons items or anything that makes running chests fun. Right now I have no idea what's the best place to run for those unique items so I use the service of chest runners. It would be nice of course that the items from the chest make enough to get new lockpicks.

Trx

Trx

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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Originally Posted by nitetime View Post
Is there an anti chest running code pertaining to drops? I didnt look really hard, but didnt find any info.

New areas are pretty good to me, then drops turn to crap real fast. As you can see I am also interested in golds. Last night after 15 hm snowman runs items went from all golds and elite tomes to all grapes so I stopped.
I'm having the same problem. Been running a lot in Gyala's Hatchery lately, and drops in HM are slowly getting worse (at first hardly any purples, now its around half purples) . Guess it's time to switch area.

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

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hi guys.. well my 2 cents.

I run Ascalon Foothills in Normal Mode to get my Lucky Title up. I am currently at 900,000 lucky and lv 4 treasure hunter.

Ascalon Foothills yields 1 chest every 1.5 minutes including mapping with a second account - saves some running.

When I get bored I sometimes run Eye of the North Chests outside of Borials Pass. You can get 1 chest in hard mode with mapping in 2 minutes or less.

Or for some fun with no build needed at all, do the Killroy's punchout. There is a chest there every run and takes about 2 minutes.

For Lucky title Ascalon Foothills is the best place to run lockpicks. I have a 88% chance to retain and that is soon to be at 90% WOOT.

MagisterSum

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Join Date: Feb 2010

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For those who run with sin skills and bring P/W, W/P hero builds, I'm guessing that you flag the heroes away while you run into mobs for the chests? I've also seen Shadow of Haste to shadow step back to the original trail. How about bringing Recall instead? Cast it on a hero, flag them further up your path, run in, get the chest, and then cancel recall. Skills will be disabled for a few seconds, but that shouldn't be a bother, and you'll shave a few seconds off of the run. What do you think?

system.fan

system.fan

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Join Date: Aug 2008

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Originally Posted by MagisterSum View Post
For those who run with sin skills and bring P/W, W/P hero builds, I'm guessing that you flag the heroes away while you run into mobs for the chests? I've also seen Shadow of Haste to shadow step back to the original trail. How about bringing Recall instead? Cast it on a hero, flag them further up your path, run in, get the chest, and then cancel recall. Skills will be disabled for a few seconds, but that shouldn't be a bother, and you'll shave a few seconds off of the run. What do you think?
too complicated to do that all the time on a run with 5 chests on the way imo =)

Already finished my Treasure Hunter... Got ~18.000 Chests opened now and like 300.000 away from lucky title max...

ran with hero's + hench all the time... 3 Paragons as hero's, 2 warriors, 2 monks...
I didnt flag anything and i didnt do any micro managment with hero's skills...

Most of the PvE-Mobs are just tooooo weak....
The Healing from "Fall Back!" is enough in most cases...
Or you can use Shadowform and run in the Mob as first person to get aggro from all... so most foes won't attack hench...
after that just break aggro with dash....

even if all henchs get killed while running... who care's?
its still faster than flag, and waste time with casting spells u dont need...


For Lucky Title...
IMO Sunqua Vale is best... in NM of course^^
you start @ Monastery...
Run into the first entrance of the Cave with all the Mantid inside, near Cho's Estates...
There is ALWAYS a chest inside... most times in 1 of the first 2 groups of enemys.

takes like 1min for run and 10seconds to zone....

Sethellington

Sethellington

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Quote:
Originally Posted by system.fan View Post
too complicated to do that all the time on a run with 5 chests on the way imo =)

Already finished my Treasure Hunter... Got ~18.000 Chests opened now and like 300.000 away from lucky title max...

ran with hero's + hench all the time... 3 Paragons as hero's, 2 warriors, 2 monks...
I didnt flag anything and i didnt do any micro managment with hero's skills...

Most of the PvE-Mobs are just tooooo weak....
The Healing from "Fall Back!" is enough in most cases...
Or you can use Shadowform and run in the Mob as first person to get aggro from all... so most foes won't attack hench...
after that just break aggro with dash....

even if all henchs get killed while running... who care's?
its still faster than flag, and waste time with casting spells u dont need...


For Lucky Title...
IMO Sunqua Vale is best... in NM of course^^
you start @ Monastery...
Run into the first entrance of the Cave with all the Mantid inside, near Cho's Estates...
There is ALWAYS a chest inside... most times in 1 of the first 2 groups of enemys.

takes like 1min for run and 10seconds to zone....
How did you manage that if you don't mind me asking..?

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

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Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

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Quote:
Originally Posted by system.fan View Post
For Lucky Title...
IMO Sunqua Vale is best... in NM of course^^
you start @ Monastery...
Run into the first entrance of the Cave with all the Mantid inside, near Cho's Estates...
There is ALWAYS a chest inside... most times in 1 of the first 2 groups of enemys.

takes like 1min for run and 10seconds to zone....
Noted. Seems to be a good spot along with Ascalon Foothills .

system.fan

system.fan

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Originally Posted by Sethellington View Post
How did you manage that if you don't mind me asking..?
2 Paragon's with 2nd Ranger
1 Ranger with 2nd Paragon...

Better?

i thought all would know what i mean with 3 paragons...
u only need 3 hero's with "Fall Back!" and "Incoming!"...

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Guys a bit of help.
I need to max my Unlucky.
Lucky is maxed.
Chest is 3 - close to 4.

Did some Boreal runs. Now if I understand this correctly this is the math:
In HM my RR is 31. Which means that I should be getting some 31 * 2.5 * 69 unlucky points if I were to open 100 chests. On average of course.
IN NM my RR should be 61. That means I should get 61 * 2.5 * 39 points.
5.347,5 unlucky points per 100 chests opened in HM.
5.947,5 in NM.
That means I should get more points in NM and I should keep almost twice as many lockpicks - which means I can run the chests much longer with a certain amount of picks (=money) effectively almost doubling the unlucky points I get in NM.

And once I reach rank 4 in Chest
34 * 2.5 * 66 = 5.610 unlucky point per 100 chests in HM
and 64 * 2.5 * 36 = 5.760 in NM.

Now the questions are:
1. how much worse are the chest drops in NM if I were to decide to go after the ID title also?
2. anything wrong with the math or did interpret the data wrong?
Thanks!

Volo

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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chest drop in nm is junk if you plan on doing boreal go hm you get elite tomes and a bunch of unids. if you sell your unids you MIGHT break even and your unlucky will go up.

system.fan

system.fan

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1. NM = everything is crap at boreal... really everything! =)
HM = maybe elite tomes, serrated spears, scythe & spear mods, 20% forget me not...

i'd do chestruns in HM if i were you...
its only like 3 or 4 broken picks difference per hour... not such a big difference on way to max title i think =)

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by system.fan View Post
1. NM = everything is crap at boreal... really everything! =)
HM = maybe elite tomes, serrated spears, scythe & spear mods, 20% forget me not...

i'd do chestruns in HM if i were you...
its only like 3 or 4 broken picks difference per hour... not such a big difference on way to max title i think =)
Tried it in NM a bit - been getting shitload of Dolyak Prods. The drops did turn to grape after a bit but at the start, there wasn't much difference.
And it certainly shouldn't be only 3 or 4 picks per hour. If I do some 30 runs per hour - I should break almost 70% of picks in HM compared to a bit over 30% in NM. And that means around 20 broken in HM vs 10 in NM.
And that does add up - considering I'll need to do around 5k chest runs - and that means around 2k more picks if I were to do it in HM.

superraptors

superraptors

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i dont see how u can be motivated to run grapes instead of golds, wasting id kits on purple adds up if u havent already got max wisdom already

running chests is fun when u get golds, thats why when back in the day people would argue who should open the chest first, if its gold then everyone follows, if its purple then u pretty much got owned, was so fun back then didnt even seem like grinding

i suggest HM, more golds, more profit, if ur not making profit then ur doing it wrong, lastly its about the motivation to go on, 5k is a long way to go even tho ur half way

but as of right now i suggest waiting till easter! i need bout 500 to go, can easily do that in 3-4 hours easter

upier

upier

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

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Originally Posted by superraptors View Post
i dont see how u can be motivated to run grapes instead of golds, wasting id kits on purple adds up if u havent already got max wisdom already

running chests is fun when u get golds, thats why when back in the day people would argue who should open the chest first, if its gold then everyone follows, if its purple then u pretty much got owned, was so fun back then didnt even seem like grinding

i suggest HM, more golds, more profit, if ur not making profit then ur doing it wrong, lastly its about the motivation to go on, 5k is a long way to go even tho ur half way

but as of right now i suggest waiting till easter! i need bout 500 to go, can easily do that in 3-4 hours easter
The problem is that if my math is correct, the difference between NM and HM drops needs to amount to around the value of some 2k lockpicks IF I choose to not care about the ID title but just go as high as I can go. Which means that HM drops need to bring in some 2,5 mil gold more than NM drops would. And based on the fact that most of the Boreal drops are merch crap - I don't see that happening.
Hence why I asked.

Volo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

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if you are soo worried about money than wait till easter and raptor farm your ass off

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

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Originally Posted by Volo View Post
if you are soo worried about money than wait till easter and raptor farm your ass off
Why is that? I haven't been so long in the game so I have not seen an easter event. Thanks

dr love

dr love

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Hyperion

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Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
The problem is that if my math is correct, the difference between NM and HM drops needs to amount to around the value of some 2k lockpicks IF I choose to not care about the ID title but just go as high as I can go. Which means that HM drops need to bring in some 2,5 mil gold more than NM drops would. And based on the fact that most of the Boreal drops are merch crap - I don't see that happening.
Hence why I asked.
your math is correct. NM is cheaper in every way to max the title. buy unid golds if you need to make up for less golds, its still cheaper.

Marvin the Martian

Marvin the Martian

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Hi, so I want to Max my lucky title, and I hear that chest running in NM on noob-island is a great and cheap way to do this. However, it's so hard to find a good area to do this quickly and to find an almost constant chest. Can anyone give me a good area for this please? Thanks!

system.fan

system.fan

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Originally Posted by Volo View Post
if you are soo worried about money than wait till easter and raptor farm your ass off
bullshit...
we're talking about lucky title not treasure hunter... (if u meant to farm golden eggs for title)

@Marvin the Martian:

Try this one:



In the cave there's a Shing-Jea-Chest in like 9/10 cases...
greetz