I got a question about chest running...I began doing massive chest running in HM in Cantha. Mainly in Shadow Passage, Drazach Ticket, Pongmei Vallet, The undercity and Sunjiang District. Always HM.
I do this mainly for titles, but also in the hope of getting some nice weapons...I noticed that since the first times drop rate of golds has dropped heavily. Do u think that running the same chests for hours will lower the chance of gold drops?
In Shadow Passage and Undercity it's like 10 times that locked chests drop purple items....and often purple armors.
I know they count for treasure hunter title, but i'd also like some decent drops.
Any suggestion?
And also: I read somewhere in Guru that maybe downloading a new DAT file may give you better drops in farming certain spots like for example farming "Dragon Moss" in Drazach Ticket.....(hope u understood this)
The Chestrunners Thread
Tender Care
gw_poster
I get the same feeling, especially with farming but I think the reason for that is obvious. I think with chests though, the law of large numbers will ring true over time. You are probably having a spate of bad luck. Maybe try switching chestrunning areas after 50 chests or so, and see if that helps. Lord knows it will at least mitigate the boredom creep, it does for me anyway. It seems we always remember the bad runs, strings of bad chest drops, and overall bad experiences much more than we remember the good ones. There have been times chestrunning where I've had consecutive golds and elite tome drops, but they are soon forgotten whereas my strings of grape and normal tome drops are often the topic of complaint threads! Although my bad luck with broken lockpicks never changes...probably my fault for spending so many afk weekends on the cheap rings, lol.
Bright Star Shine
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I get the same feeling, especially with farming but I think the reason for that is obvious. I think with chests though, the law of large numbers will ring true over time. You are probably having a spate of bad luck. Maybe try switching chestrunning areas after 50 chests or so, and see if that helps. Lord knows it will at least mitigate the boredom creep, it does for me anyway. It seems we always remember the bad runs, strings of bad chest drops, and overall bad experiences much more than we remember the good ones. There have been times chestrunning where I've had consecutive golds and elite tome drops, but they are soon forgotten whereas my strings of grape and normal tome drops are often the topic of complaint threads! Although my bad luck with broken lockpicks never changes...probably my fault for spending so many afk weekends on the cheap rings, lol.
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And, no, farming the same area over and over should not have any effect on your drops. All that can happen is bad luck, but that's all. You are certainly not the only on farming the area's, and imagine back when this game was popular, thousands of people were doing it at the same time, so they calced that in I think. You'd have to be running the same area thousands of times consistently before you should feel anything. Or at least a couple hundred times..
You can indeed change area's to counter boredom but that's all.
If you want good drops from all of cantha, Pongmei is the best choice, the only awesome weapons you can't get there are Outcast (sorry, they will always be my favorite^^), but all the neat Echovald skins, Paper Fans, Bo Staffs, Plagueborn etc should drop there.. I think even Platinum stuff.
If it's speed you want, I still think my Silent Surf run is one of the fastest (5 Chests, 3 minutes). There are loads of maps on here, and I think a lot of us can give you good advise (Superraptors, Pleikki, Carnage etc are very experienced runners)
Tender Care
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
Unlucky had nothing to do with retain chanced lol, but I think you meant it symbolically anyway :P
And, no, farming the same area over and over should not have any effect on your drops. All that can happen is bad luck, but that's all. You are certainly not the only on farming the area's, and imagine back when this game was popular, thousands of people were doing it at the same time, so they calced that in I think. You'd have to be running the same area thousands of times consistently before you should feel anything. Or at least a couple hundred times.. You can indeed change area's to counter boredom but that's all. If you want good drops from all of cantha, Pongmei is the best choice, the only awesome weapons you can't get there are Outcast (sorry, they will always be my favorite^^), but all the neat Echovald skins, Paper Fans, Bo Staffs, Plagueborn etc should drop there.. I think even Platinum stuff. If it's speed you want, I still think my Silent Surf run is one of the fastest (5 Chests, 3 minutes). There are loads of maps on here, and I think a lot of us can give you good advise (Superraptors, Pleikki, Carnage etc are very experienced runners) |
For chests: Pongmei Valley never had a plagueborn (not even at Sunjian district portal), never an echovald, never a paper fan or others rare skins.
Undercity: always 2 chests near Afflicted groups but 9/10 are armors..
Am i particulalry unlucky or should i stop running this spots for a while?
Ling
I generally run around 20-30 chests at one spot then switch to another area (only cantha though). Keeps the runs fun and entertaining and it's nice to see some variety in the drops. A normal go would look something like this:
1. Pongmei Valley
2. Boreas Seabed
3. Shadow's Passage
4. Melandru's Hope
5. Bukdek Byway
100-150 chests done and after that I'm hitting RA or do some mission runs ^.^
1. Pongmei Valley
2. Boreas Seabed
3. Shadow's Passage
4. Melandru's Hope
5. Bukdek Byway
100-150 chests done and after that I'm hitting RA or do some mission runs ^.^
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by Tender Care
Actually with farming I'm pretty sure that after a 50 times you farm the same spot the chance of good drops is really lower than the first times...I noticed in farming Dragon Moss, Mantids, the Wardens in Drazach Ticket, some bosses..and i don't use superfast builds.
For chests: Pongmei Valley never had a plagueborn (not even at Sunjian district portal), never an echovald, never a paper fan or others rare skins. Undercity: always 2 chests near Afflicted groups but 9/10 are armors.. Am i particulalry unlucky or should i stop running this spots for a while? |
You can swap between areas if you want, but won't have a very large effect..
Also, yes, plagueborn chests drop 90% armors, which is fcking frustrating if you're hunting for a +5e sword -.-
Tender Care
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
Yes, but for the farming thing, they deliberately made that to prevent mass farming, to my knowledge, they didn't do anything major to prevent mass chest running, and since doing 100+ chests in a row is mental torture, and is practically impossible to do, I don't think it has any effect at all.
You can swap between areas if you want, but won't have a very large effect.. Also, yes, plagueborn chests drop 90% armors, which is fcking frustrating if you're hunting for a +5e sword -.- |
totally agree, it's frustrating to look for good drops while chest running, all req 9 i found were common skins, only had req 11 Plagueborn Daggers +15,-5nrg...some purple staves...But i don't agree with mental torture of chest-running, it's one of the funniest things i do in GW. Chest running in hard areas is a challenge and you can have fun beating stupids mobs with some tricks.
You learn soooo many things about foes AI and their usage of skills that is almost easy to prevent them from using a certain skill
Anyway: if someone wanna join me i wanna try a dual run HM in Sorrow's Furnance.
PM me if interested at: I Feeding Frenzy I
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by Tender Care
totally agree, it's frustrating to look for good drops while chest running, all req 9 i found were common skins, only had req 11 Plagueborn Daggers +15,-5nrg...some purple staves...But i don't agree with mental torture of chest-running, it's one of the funniest things i do in GW. Chest running in hard areas is a challenge and you can have fun beating stupids mobs with some tricks. You learn soooo many things about foes AI and their usage of skills that is almost easy to prevent them from using a certain skill Anyway: if someone wanna join me i wanna try a dual run HM in Sorrow's Furnance. PM me if interested at: I Feeding Frenzy I |
What I am looking for is a build and guide to run Napui Quarter HM for chests, because I am hunting for a Celestial Scepter, with any req, and may even be singlemod with +15/-1.. And i've had loads of singlemod wands before, chestrunning other places with a +15/-1, so might find what I'm looking for, but seriously, all the runs I've tried so far, I got ganked before I got in far enough.. And those motherf*ckers won't break aggro in HM, even with a 5,25s Dash...
Also, @ Tender, I enjoy it too, but too much can just be.. Too much :P
A lovely skill for chestrunning is Shadow of Haste btw^^ It works swimmingly to troll the shit out of mobs :P Cast far away from your mob, run in, open chest, pick drop, stance out, gg^^ Use it all the time :P
Tender Care
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
Might pm you some time when I get my ssin to SF^^ But with my finals and shit, it won't be for now..
What I am looking for is a build and guide to run Napui Quarter HM for chests, because I am hunting for a Celestial Scepter, with any req, and may even be singlemod with +15/-1.. And i've had loads of singlemod wands before, chestrunning other places with a +15/-1, so might find what I'm looking for, but seriously, all the runs I've tried so far, I got ganked before I got in far enough.. And those motherf*ckers won't break aggro in HM, even with a 5,25s Dash... Also, @ Tender, I enjoy it too, but too much can just be.. Too much :P A lovely skill for chestrunning is Shadow of Haste btw^^ It works swimmingly to troll the shit out of mobs :P Cast far away from your mob, run in, open chest, pick drop, stance out, gg^^ Use it all the time :P |
superraptors
naphuis moderately hard, keep dark escape on iau + feigned and shadow sanct on chain, make sure ur shadow thingy is on[75% block +8 regen], i would also try run counter clockewise on naphui i find theres less mobs, but start from the left portal.
Tender Care
Found a nice way to easy chest run in Rhea's Crater: exit Aurios Mines or Seafarer's Rest and die at first group without activating any res shrine (i don't know if Luxons laready have it active or not, i do not ). If res shrine wasn't active you'll be ressed in the middle of the map and 1/2 there's a chest right were some groups of Outcasts. Then if u want u can just enter the door on the right and run...1 minute and there's another chest, easy to run even with a paragon in HM!
). If res shrine wasn't active you'll be ressed in the middle of the map and 1/2 there's a chest right were some groups of Outcasts. Then if u want u can just enter the door on the right and run...1 minute and there's another chest, easy to run even with a paragon in HM!
Ling
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Found a nice way to easy chest run in Rhea's Crater: exit Aurios Mines or Seafarer's Rest and die at first group without activating any res shrine (i don't know if Luxons laready have it active or not, i do not
). If res shrine wasn't active you'll be ressed in the middle of the map and 1/2 there's a chest right were some groups of Outcasts. Then if u want u can just enter the door on the right and run...1 minute and there's another chest, easy to run even with a paragon in HM! |
Edit: I suggest starting from seafarers rest, there's a group of afflicted really close to the portal. 40 second runs ftw
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by superraptors
naphuis moderately hard, keep dark escape on iau + feigned and shadow sanct on chain, make sure ur shadow thingy is on[75% block +8 regen], i would also try run counter clockewise on naphui i find theres less mobs, but start from the left portal.
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Equipment: -2^ench or -2^stance shield with +30/+45hp mod and a +5e 20% ench axe/sword/spear, full Blessed insignia's Shadow 12+3+1.
Once I figure this out and can do perfect runs consistently, I'll make a guide.
Sorry for the strange skill order, normally I use totally different orders, but for some reason, when chest running, it's all different, but I'm used to this
Practice this first I'd say.. Even in NM, this is a pretty tough run.. HM is very hard, getting to your second chest should be considered an accomplishment
Tender Care
I use insignias vs piercing dmg since bows attacks are the most dmg in Naphui Quarter mission......
@edit: actuall it should be the only physical dmg you take since you're running
@edit: actuall it should be the only physical dmg you take since you're running
Bright Star Shine
Ok, I started thinking a bit, and came to the conclusion that I barely use Shadow form when running, since I don't need spell protection anyway, because I just ignore the bosses and try not to agro them.. So, I started thinking of a suiting replacement, and this is what I came up with:
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With this build, it is almost a walk in the park honestly.. Ok, it's still not very easy, but a LOT easier tbh.. I'm also thinking of replacing Feigned Neutrality with Heart of Shadow, because it's a pretty strong heal, and Feigned has the annoying downside of ending when you use a skill.. Which can make it hard to time.
The build can be hard on energy though, so don't spam too much, and you should be able to make a nice tour around Naphui^^
OwNS84PT0kHQDE3lNQpZrg4O
With this build, it is almost a walk in the park honestly.. Ok, it's still not very easy, but a LOT easier tbh.. I'm also thinking of replacing Feigned Neutrality with Heart of Shadow, because it's a pretty strong heal, and Feigned has the annoying downside of ending when you use a skill.. Which can make it hard to time.
The build can be hard on energy though, so don't spam too much, and you should be able to make a nice tour around Naphui^^
DigitalFear
Bright, I think you're better off running Xaquang Skyway for celestial drops. It's incredibly easy(almost impossible to die) and the chest:time ratio is pretty good.
(Just fyi, I've had quite a few +15/-1 cele wands from there, mostly single mod though. )
(Just fyi, I've had quite a few +15/-1 cele wands from there, mostly single mod though. )
Bright Star Shine
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Bright, I think you're better off running Xaquang Skyway for celestial drops. It's incredibly easy(almost impossible to die) and the chest:time ratio is pretty good.
(Just fyi, I've had quite a few +15/-1 cele wands from there, mostly single mod though. ) |
And, next time you get one of those wands, sell me pl0x^^
DigitalFear
Hmm...I think you'll just have to get used to it. And yeah, sure, I'll give you one of those wands if I get one.
This is the build I generally use.
http://www.gwpvx.com/Special:PvXDeco...ry+verzen den
This is the build I generally use.
http://www.gwpvx.com/Special:PvXDeco...ry+verzen den
JSX
ok im new to chest running. and im basically trying to maybe get a nice shield skin that cantha has (i.e echovald for example) , should I just do chest runs in the valley in nm? or is there a better place?
Bright Star Shine
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ok im new to chest running. and im basically trying to maybe get a nice shield skin that cantha has (i.e echovald for example) , should I just do chest runs in the valley in nm? or is there a better place?
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If you want echovalds, the echovald forest is where you should be :P Morostav Trail is said to be a fairly easy running spot, I've tried it a couple times, but never got the hang of it, so I don't run it that much^^
Pongmei Valley is literally a walk in the park, it's super easy and it yields a large variety of skins. So, if you wanna get used to chest running a bit, that's the best place to start imo.
Ling
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ok im new to chest running. and im basically trying to maybe get a nice shield skin that cantha has (i.e echovald for example) , should I just do chest runs in the valley in nm? or is there a better place?
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Ariena Najea
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There's a map on page 32 that shows the route in Melandru's hope. Chance of Echovald Shields and a couple of other nice skins, decent farm imo.
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gw_poster
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Originally Posted by eviltjuh
I generally run around 20-30 chests at one spot then switch to another area (only cantha though). Keeps the runs fun and entertaining and it's nice to see some variety in the drops. A normal go would look something like this:
1. Pongmei Valley 2. Boreas Seabed 3. Shadow's Passage 4. Melandru's Hope 5. Bukdek Byway 100-150 chests done and after that I'm hitting RA or do some mission runs ^.^ |
JSX
alright thanks guys for all the tips ! ill give it a try this weekend and report back !
Tender Care
has been said that best drops are in Pongmei Valley, but to my experience i've never had good drops in Pongmei both in NM and HM. For an echovald shield you can also try normal Kurzick Chests in Echoval Forest....
But generally you don't chest run for drops, but for titles....also running some areas can provide really nice drops, but hunting a specific item is nerving....I tried hundreds chests near Afflicted and never had good drops, mostly purple and few gold armors
Run in the areas where you except to have specific drops, but don't cry XD
But generally you don't chest run for drops, but for titles....also running some areas can provide really nice drops, but hunting a specific item is nerving....I tried hundreds chests near Afflicted and never had good drops, mostly purple and few gold armors
Run in the areas where you except to have specific drops, but don't cry XD
Bright Star Shine
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Originally Posted by Tender Care
has been said that best drops are in Pongmei Valley, but to my experience i've never had good drops in Pongmei both in NM and HM. For an echovald shield you can also try normal Kurzick Chests in Echoval Forest....
But generally you don't chest run for drops, but for titles....also running some areas can provide really nice drops, but hunting a specific item is nerving....I tried hundreds chests near Afflicted and never had good drops, mostly purple and few gold armors Run in the areas where you except to have specific drops, but don't cry XD |
Ling
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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
It always helps to pursue a certain item, it keeps you motivated.. I wanted a nice outcast so bad that I could do 100 runs after each other.. Irony of it? Only got 2 outcast shields in my entire pursuit of them.. And they were both absolute shit..
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Bright Star Shine
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I'll be farming luxon chests this weekend, at least I know whom to PM if I come across a new shield =]
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Also, I'm running vermins atm, and i'm starting to get the flow, but I'm wondering.. Do they inflict slashing or piercing damage? Because they are usually with large groups and they can get me down pretty fast, extra hints on what damage they deal would be appreciated^^ I know celestial daggers deal piercing, so I assume they do too?
DigitalFear
I am pretty sure they deal slashing damage.
Bright Star Shine
Yep, just tested with 2 armor sets, slashing for sure :P They practically can't hurt me with the slashing set, while they hit for 30+ with the piercing^^ Now to find a +10vsSlashing inscr for my shield :P
Wrath of m0o
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And, no, farming the same area over and over should not have any effect on your drops. All that can happen is bad luck, but that's all. |
superraptors
theres atleast 1-3 chest that has chance to drop echovald shields[ornate,echo,gothic,goth,amber] when running pongmei from boreas
Shanks R Us
Reading over a few pages of this, I still can't really find an answer.
What would be the best place to run chests if I'm only looking for golds? I could care less what they are, so long as they are gold, & the number of chests is at maximum. Witman's folly seems to have a really bad gold drop rate.
A place that can preferably be ran in HM, as a sin, with a lot of running experience, so basically anywhere.
What would be the best place to run chests if I'm only looking for golds? I could care less what they are, so long as they are gold, & the number of chests is at maximum. Witman's folly seems to have a really bad gold drop rate.
A place that can preferably be ran in HM, as a sin, with a lot of running experience, so basically anywhere.
Tender Care
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Originally Posted by Shanks R Us
Reading over a few pages of this, I still can't really find an answer.
What would be the best place to run chests if I'm only looking for golds? I could care less what they are, so long as they are gold, & the number of chests is at maximum. Witman's folly seems to have a really bad gold drop rate. A place that can preferably be ran in HM, as a sin, with a lot of running experience, so basically anywhere. |
I've noticed in Prophecies a very bad drop rate, even at the end missions in HM. Try Pongmei Valley to begin
( HM )
Bright Star Shine
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Reading over a few pages of this, I still can't really find an answer.
What would be the best place to run chests if I'm only looking for golds? I could care less what they are, so long as they are gold, & the number of chests is at maximum. Witman's folly seems to have a really bad gold drop rate. A place that can preferably be ran in HM, as a sin, with a lot of running experience, so basically anywhere. |
Also, it's really a piss easy run, since every mob is fighting each other, and they barely notice you. I run it on my ssin as well, and it's like a walk in the park.
Also, run HM of course, yields about 8/10 golds in my experience.
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LMFAO..omg thats a good one.
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So, next time you decide to say something sarcastic, make sure it's well placed.. And reading ppl's posts would be a good idea too
Wrath of m0o
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In my experience, the best chest-time ratio you can possibly get is Silent Surf. 5 chests in 3 minutes regularly, sometimes spawns are a bit bad, so 4, and if you're really unlucky, but that almost never happens, 3.. I made a guide a couple pages back :P
Also, it's really a piss easy run, since every mob is fighting each other, and they barely notice you. I run it on my ssin as well, and it's like a walk in the park. Also, run HM of course, yields about 8/10 golds in my experience. And, I was talking bout chestrunning.. If you actually read my post, you would've noticed.. If you farm raptors 24/7 you get shit drops yes, but chests didn't get the same thing, because you'd have to be farming them at an insane rate to notice anything.. So, next time you decide to say something sarcastic, make sure it's well placed.. And reading ppl's posts would be a good idea too |
Today after one hour of chest running the same area i have broken 40 lockpicks in NM.
To say that there is not a anti-farm code that affects chest runners is BS. I dont care what Anet/Guru want you to belive. Its this same code that can be witnessed when farming the same area over and over to where it is near impossible to get a blue drop, let alone a purple or gold.
I can Fix this anti-farm code by doing missions, and Vanquishing.
Bright Star Shine
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Well from my experience, playing the game normally VQing and doing missions i hardly ever break a Lockpick at 6 hunter and 6 wisdom.
Today after one hour of chest running the same area i have broken 40 lockpicks in NM. To say that there is not a anti-farm code that affects chest runners is BS. I dont care what Anet/Guru want you to belive. Its this same code that can be witnessed when farming the same area over and over to where it is near impossible to get a blue drop, let alone a purple or gold. I can Fix this anti-farm code by doing missions, and Vanquishing. |
Shanks R Us
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In my experience, the best chest-time ratio you can possibly get is Silent Surf. 5 chests in 3 minutes regularly, sometimes spawns are a bit bad, so 4, and if you're really unlucky, but that almost never happens, 3.. I made a guide a couple pages back :P
Also, it's really a piss easy run, since every mob is fighting each other, and they barely notice you. I run it on my ssin as well, and it's like a walk in the park. Also, run HM of course, yields about 8/10 golds in my experience. And, I was talking bout chestrunning.. If you actually read my post, you would've noticed.. If you farm raptors 24/7 you get shit drops yes, but chests didn't get the same thing, because you'd have to be farming them at an insane rate to notice anything.. So, next time you decide to say something sarcastic, make sure it's well placed.. And reading ppl's posts would be a good idea too |
Thanks a lot, I'll give it a try.
Wrath of m0o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu_6hdGZ6gU
If you play the game normally, your retention rate and odds of getting Gold over Purple will be higher than Chest running the same area, over and over and over.
If you play the game normally, your retention rate and odds of getting Gold over Purple will be higher than Chest running the same area, over and over and over.
Bright Star Shine
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu_6hdGZ6gU
If you play the game normally, your retention rate and odds of getting Gold over Purple will be higher than Chest running the same area, over and over and over. |
The background music is kind of hypnotizing :PBut anyway, in my experience I haven't noticed anything about bad retention rates, or bad chest drops from doing the same run over and over.. Maybe I'm just lucky?
P.S.: Thank you very much, now the tune is stuck in my head -.-