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LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

19 Apr 2007 at 19:30 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darksun

Dude, you can't access hardmode until you're level 20. All this stuff is in Hard Mode.

Uh, you will see it on level 5 toons if they let you transfer/use the Tomes on characters other than your own... No one knows quite how they work or if they're bounded to your character that found them.

Imagine if you could sneak a Tome back into Presearing.... that would be worth an insane amount of cash! (I know you can't anymore / for a long time, but imagine if you did get one in Presearing!)

pug_ster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

I dunno

N/Me

19 Apr 2007 at 19:30 - 122

The poor people in Japan, Taiwan and Korea will now have a chance to go to UW and FOW.

Mister Overhill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Tampa, Florida

Sticks and Stones

R/Rt

19 Apr 2007 at 19:32 - 123

Ahh! Josso, Shiro, and Ipillo Wupwup on steroids! Now this sounds like fun!

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:32 - 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darksun

Dude, you can't access hardmode until you're level 20. All this stuff is in Hard Mode.

Darksun, you could give the Tomes to a lower level character.

That said, a level 5 Elite is still not powerful. It's not like you're running your level 5 to Droks for max armor, then going back...

Hell, by the same argument, they should stop letting people level up to 20 in pre-searing. That's not fair either! /sarcasm

viper008

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

19 Apr 2007 at 19:33 - 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegendozelda

not for sure, go zone in and see if it says its explorable, i think it will be rather funny myself if it is

It's not I just checked

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:34 - 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by pug_ster

The poor people in Japan, Taiwan and Korea will now have a chance to go to UW and FOW.

Observation of the day folks!

Favor != Access to UW/FoW.

This is a huge benefit.

Corran Horn

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Alliance of Xen

R/Me

19 Apr 2007 at 19:35 - 127

Quote:

Originally Posted by ischuros

With the tomes, could you see level 5 SS necros, and level 5 WoH monks running around Acalon City? This could really imbalance the early game. I hope some precautiones are put in place to stop this.

Well, nobody will have them in pre-sear and who cares if people have SS post sear? Anyone who could give themselves SS would have to have it unlocked already. Perhaps there will be an increase in PvP edition sales? Honestly though, what in the world is PvE balance? As long as it is possible to kill the mobs and you have fun who cares if you're doing it with SS or SF or any other elite that you "shouldn't" have at lvl 5?

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

19 Apr 2007 at 19:37 - 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Darksun, you could give the Tomes to a lower level character.

That said, a level 5 Elite is still not powerful. It's not like you're running your level 5 to Droks for max armor, then going back...

Hell, by the same argument, they should stop letting people level up to 20 in pre-searing. That's not fair either! /sarcasm

*rolls level 1 necro*

*double clicks on tome*

"You must be a higher level to use that item."

*ragequits*

I could very well see that as the solution. Of course, your "they should stop letting people level up to 20 in presearing" argument is very solid as well... certainly low level areas will be easier for a level 20, but that certainly didn't break the game.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:37 - 129

some people are saying its gunna be unfair on new characters if they have the skills from a tomb. i dont recon it will inbalance it at all reall as youve gott complete the game atleast once anyway, so it wont ruin the game for you. Try using the skill properly at lvl 5?

ischuros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ireland

N/Me

19 Apr 2007 at 19:37 - 130

Justa possilbe imbalance to the game, making it a bit too easy. But, yeah, not a biggie anyway. It's all about having fun.

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

19 Apr 2007 at 19:38 - 131

Quote:

Originally Posted by ischuros

@ Darksun, it is called storage, switching items between chars.

I see what you're saying. I was under the impression that these were static objects, useable only in hardmode towns. I suppose I should assume they are just regular, tradeable items.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

19 Apr 2007 at 19:38 - 132

I'm right there with you...if you're doing Vanquisher, you might as well do GMC as well. Seems almost silly to do one without the other, since you're basically clearing every inch of the map anyways.

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

19 Apr 2007 at 19:39 - 133

So exciting, I (and by I I mean everyone) can't wait!

Anyone notice that image of Kryta with the hard mode icons? Interesting. I haven't figured out the code yet.

I guess the swords are still the same - left is mission, right is bonus. The shield is now a helmet - yellow = hard mode done? (Because note the mission, D'Alessio Seaboard, which lacks swords, lacks a yellow helmet)

Might be less stressful on my brain (which I need to save for hard-mode action later) to wait until the update reveals it.

The fact sheet was posted about 3 hours ago (according to the RSS feed). Can't be much longer!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmithyBen

some people are saying its gunna be unfair on new characters if they have the skills from a tomb. i dont recon it will inbalance it at all reall as youve gott complete the game atleast once anyway.

It says you can then acquire an unlocked skill. In other words you did work for the skill at some point before. Though yeah, that does still make it fairly easy. But it all depends on the droprate of the tomes.

It's like back before SoC gave you EXP. My ranger and warrior, who both did most of their capping before it was implemented, missed out on a ton of EXP. Meh.

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

19 Apr 2007 at 19:40 - 134

Dang it, looks like I'm gonna try hard mode against my will bc of all these cool things. I'm a lazy part time adult player with 10 characters, looks like I might have to drop a tv show to do this stuff. I too hope it's not as hard as DoA.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

19 Apr 2007 at 19:40 - 135

This could be one of the best updates ever. Easier access to skills (since this is a massive 3 campaign game with skills all over the place that you have to capture over and over again), bigger benefit for PvPing as a PvE toon (essentially, you can use Balthazar faction+tomes to learn new elite skills), and of course, a way to access UW and FoW without favor. If this fixes soul reaping, mesmers, and Paragons, it would be the greatest update ever by far. But let's not get carried away I suppose.

zara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

everywhere and no where

Mo/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:41 - 136

Hardmode will hopefully be good and not lame DoA style. I can't wait to do THK and FoW in hardmode

tyche7

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Nebraska

The Killer Panda Bears

W/Mo

19 Apr 2007 at 19:41 - 137

I'm so happy I'm practically vibrating!
This sounds cool
:-D

Kali Magdalene

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

N/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:45 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by ischuros

With the tomes, could you see level 5 SS necros, and level 5 WoH monks running around Acalon City? This could really imbalance the early game. I hope some precautiones are put in place to stop this.

My 7th level ranger with all the pre-Searing skills in Ascalon City unbalanced the early game. What's the problem here?

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

19 Apr 2007 at 19:46 - 139

Why are they offering increased EXP? Seems kinda pointless, and kinda ironic considering the release of skill tomes.

thezed

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Iowa, USA

HoTR

19 Apr 2007 at 19:48 - 140

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

Why are they offering increased EXP? Seems kinda pointless, and kinda ironic considering the release of skill tomes.

Maybe the tomes will still require a skill point.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:48 - 141

Just for the record (in case it wasn't obvious), I love the idea of Tomes being used for new characters.

This argument was brought up with Heros - it seemed unfair that Heros had access to Elites that some of your characters didn't! After all, we all live on the same "account".

This is a great way to remedy the situation.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

19 Apr 2007 at 19:48 - 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

Why are they offering increased EXP? Seems kinda pointless, and kinda ironic considering the release of skill tomes.

Survivor, and the fact that higher level mobs give higher EXP

That's my guess at least, unless maybe skill points can be traded in for tomes or something.

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:48 - 143

This will help many of those new monks to get the SoJ really fast. No more droks running like i had to do.

lucky newbies...

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:49 - 144

I'm like passing out, anyone know how long it'll be before they throw the update in. Please soon for my sake!

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

19 Apr 2007 at 19:51 - 145

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell Raiser

Well, it doesn't have to be from a priest. Since my monk has capped Feast Of Corruption, it unlocked it for my account; so using the tome on my nec will let me get FoC for him.

TY. Nice pic btw.

<---Guild Name

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:51 - 146

Survivor in Hard Mode?

That should be like it's own title - Uber Survivor.

Maybe that "extend[ed] character development beyond level 20" mentioned for GWEN in PCGamer has something to do with XP?

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

19 Apr 2007 at 19:52 - 147

Gimme gimme gimme!

Gimme more!

Graywing

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Mongoose United

W/Me

19 Apr 2007 at 19:52 - 148

Looking at the hard mode sample map: "Wow, this must be very hard, clearing Gates of Cryta mission without even entering the map"...

Never ran the -image this many times in months

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:55 - 149

well if you play along you should get the message that a new build is available when hard mode is available.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

19 Apr 2007 at 19:57 - 150

A hint to all: Remember to get your new Sunspear Skills (presumably you'll get atleast one) if you are atleast a Sunspear Castellian (8). I'm staying in the Sunspear Great Hall right now, waiting for the update, hehe.

Ritual del Fuego

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

CA

Frogs in Winter [FiW]

19 Apr 2007 at 19:58 - 151

Quote:

Originally Posted by Series

Survivor, and the fact that higher level mobs give higher EXP

That's my guess at least, unless maybe skill points can be traded in for tomes or something.

That would be cool if the skill traders had the tomes for sale.

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

19 Apr 2007 at 19:58 - 152

heh i can almost see a new breed of runners coming to Tyria... IF you have to fight your way from ascalon all the way back through the game...in Hard Mode...Droks Run in HM anyone? I think that it would be awesome to have to explore all over again ....in HM only but be able to switch back and forth from one to the other....by loggin in and out..and if say you was in Droks in normal mode....and logged out and back in in HM then it would automatically switch you to the closest town that you have "unlocked" in HM

sorta like what happens when you leave a toon in a guild hall and quit the guild...the next time you log in it takes you to the Temple....

wwwgeek7

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

R/

19 Apr 2007 at 20:01 - 153

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

Why are they offering increased EXP? Seems kinda pointless, and kinda ironic considering the release of skill tomes.

...cause it helps get rid of Death Penalty.

Dinkytowner

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

19 Apr 2007 at 20:02 - 154

Has anyone decided what "finishing" prophesies is? All missions? Just the last one?

Graywing

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Mongoose United

W/Me

19 Apr 2007 at 20:05 - 155

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism2525

well if you play along you should get the message that a new build is available when hard mode is available.

Only I've got other things to do in mean time, so a regular shortcut click it will be for me :P

semantic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

19 Apr 2007 at 20:09 - 156

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graywing

...
Never ran the -image this many times in months

You can stop. We've already downloaded the update. They're just waiting to make it live for everyone.

Bubba

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Netherlands

port sledge snow cones [COLD]

19 Apr 2007 at 20:11 - 157

I guess I don't need to cap the last 5 elite skills then anymore....doh.

eggs0wn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

19 Apr 2007 at 20:11 - 158

I keep opening and closing Guild Wars. I'm waiting for Norton Internet Security to come up asking me to aloow the update. Hurry pl0x!

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

19 Apr 2007 at 20:17 - 159

Quote:

Originally Posted by semantic

You can stop. We've already downloaded the update. They're just waiting to make it live for everyone.

I don't think so. If it is ready i reckon they'd just make it available. I think they're giving it just one more polishing and it'll be online.

Correct Jeans

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

^MY CAT DID THAT ONCE!

Free Willzyx [MASA]

E/Me

19 Apr 2007 at 20:24 - 160

Im interested as to what the hard mode shiro at the end of factions will be like.