Luck Title new tier?

Was reading that the luck title track max tier was increased, it is no longer "Golden" as max, but there seems to be a new 'unconfirmed' tier at 2.5 million tickets won. I mean the amount of time invested to get 1 million points is a lot, especially when compared to the small bonus you recieve to retain lockpicks with the title. Calculations using odds place gaining 1 million points on 9 rings at 3600 hours, which by far is the quickest route to this title. At the same time, Boardwalk games aren't offered often enough to make this even feasible. With all this said...... is it just me, or does this seem like an EXTREMELY insane increase?

At the risk of sounding trite or cliche, I'd say these continuing updates that we've been getting are aimed at one type of person:

Grindey McGrinderson from Grindesville, Grindlahoma.

I solo farm and even I DON'T have the patience for that kind of crap. I've said it before, but the shift in focus from play to title grinding IMHO is a tactic designed to get people to buy the expansion (Hall of Monuments) which leads into a sequel purchase.

The logic must be: after spending all that time, are you really going to not continue, having done all that in vain?

Personally, yes. In fact, after the last series of updates, between the farming nerf, soul reaping nerf and others, I find myself perusing more forums and just chatting to guildmates in game, while my toon stands there doing nothing. Its very difficult for me to muster the desire anymore to actually PLAY the game.

So unless the game's direction is taken more to a fun tack rather than hook the public with BS titles tack (I mean how many are there now, 20+? and most being character specific... grind grind grind), I'll be moving on.

Sad to see ANet falling into the same pattern as Battle.Net.

keep in mind that every time you retain a key now, you get 250 lucky points.... geting points this way will mean opening alot of HM chests, which is going to up your tresure hunter - and the more you increase both of these titles the more picks you retain.... chest running is now probly the most efficent way to increase both titles now. and the more you do it, the more picks your going to retain and the faster the title will go up

I think the effort for some of the titles is just crazy. I think it's a really bad idea to go and buy several hundred k worth of tickets and then just sit then and afk for hours as they slowly drain away...for what? a 2% better chance to retain lockpicks? So far the best way I've found is to run around early areas of the game on normal and open up chests. You've got a better then 65 chance to get 250 luck...much better then standing around on a circle.

No proof, then it's not real.

Absolutely no one in the game has Golden, the boardwalk has not been open long enough for that.

Unless another tier has been stated to exist by an Anet employee or seen by many people on a test server, don't believe unfounded rumors like this.

Adding more tiers would be extremely stupid anyhow. Many people sunk huge amounts of gold into this knowing it would max out at tier 5. To change that on them after they are already out 500k+ would be very dirty pool.

If you wanna get lucky title from lockpicks.try it on normal mode since you got base chance to retain lockpick by 40%.But even the R1 lucky title still need to open 200 chests to acquire the first tier of Lucky title.

navarros actaly the boardwalk has been open for enough time to reach 1.35m points easily doing it 24/24. so ye next tier says 2.500.000

I disagree with that. Prove it. Post a screenshot of the next tier or link to one.

I have a thread in the Q&A forum on the same subject. It doesn't make any sense at all for them to raise the max on this. The only logical excuse to to make lock picks last longer, but getting lucky titles to get 3% better chance of retaining a lock pick is like buying an apartment building so you don't have to pay the rent.

P.S. The insane amount of time just to get to Golden is ridiculous. And for them to up Golden by 150% to get to the next rank is crazy. (1,000,000 to 2,500,000 tickets won )

seems there is a screenshot in the discussion of the title: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talk:Lucky

true, but even durring an event weekend you're not participateing 24/7.. you're away from the computer while you sleap, durring gameing breaks, posibly meals, etc etc etc - might as well buy up enough tickets to afk while your gone and get yourself that much closer.

today i had to run a few erands and left it afking for a little more then an hour and picked up 5k twards the title - that's 20 chests i didn't have to open. the title may not be worth much effort, but leaveing it run while you're off haveing wet dreams isn't much of an effort.

The screenshot is from ATS servers not the live ones. They also have rank 4 of KOABD that doesn't exists on live ones at the moment.

Mainly I am looking for proof of the increased tier, and to also hear what others think about the "carrot dangling in front of you" addition to titles.

And Hopefully, Anet will run across this and get an idea of what the players think.

Personally, if it comes down to dangling a carrot in my face and keep moving it further away, Anet will effectively be getting the same treatment when it comes to GW2..... I'll dangle my dollars in front of their faces, but they aren't getting them!

The way titles are structured in general is very stupid.

The titles follow an exponential track of 2x or 5x or 10x where each successive level requires a hugely larger time investment than the entire title track up to that point. When level 5 requires five times as much commitment as levels 1 2 3 and 4 combined, that's grind.

So I agree with the earlier poster, the titles are very grindy.

I agree with you, Knight of Avalon. Many people decided to bother getting these titles and wasting huge amounts of gold & time & energy on them because they knew they'd eventually be able to afford to max them out @1 mill total. For Anet to add tiers without warning and for no reason to not make them not be maxable without 2 mill or 3 mill or more (not to mention if the Boardwalk will even ever be open long enough to max new tiers...) would be a huge injustice to everyone who chose to invest and thereby waste their gold based on the knowledge that there were only 5 tiers and a 1 mill investment total.

What they should do for sure is give more information about titles.
What titles are there, what's the max rank, how much is needed for each rank, etc.
To get golden you need 290 hours on 9 rings. That's 12 days 24/7 and will costs you 880k. (yeah, i rounded the numbers a bit). Everybody assumed golden was max and now there seems to be a higher rank and you won't even be half way when you get golden.
That they thought the title was too easy to get and increased it simply sux. If they want to get on that path they should have just created a new title making that one harder to obtain.

If you did all the events you should/could be able to have the golden title around this time. I myself am on 927k lucky and 66k unlucky, so i will reach golden soon.


I also think that they are messing the titles up with the event items. Like the golden eggs adding up for treasure hunter and lockpicks for lucky/unlucky...
What's next? An item that adds 1% to your cartho title?!?!? Why not just give away the titles...
Events are nice, but they shouldn't influence already existing titles! Introduce new titles for that!

I hate how hard it is to get these titles

sweet tooth max
drunkard max
wisdom max
treasure maxed

how are all of these alike ?

u have to spend money.....

except for sweet and drunkard, but still, that takes a horrible amount of time to do, it dosnt envolve skill, but who has the hook ups to the recourses .

This is possible if you afk/rich on the times you do have boardwalk games in the corner of 9 rings. Its also possible if you do lock pick hard mode chest farming and get key back...so yea it is

But that's a very good idea.

You've got my vote on that one. I'm tired of dangling carrots.

Titles are just dumb, IMO. Just a bunch of ridiculous grind. PvP titles, Vanquisher Title, and Mission Completion titles are the only ones I take seriously, because you get them by playing the game, not standing in town clicking on brownies.

Urrrghh this supposed increase is absolutely ridiculous. I always set out for Golden, but once I've gotten that I seriously doubt i can be bothered going for another rank that demands over double of the rank we were informed was max for so long ¬_¬

They're all completely optional?

why would titles matter besides a way of showing how big your ego or epeen is. These optional resource titles are goldsinks designed to award those who have stacks of ectos to spend.
The cartographer, mission completions,vanquisher, skill hunter,sunspear/lightbringer, and the several pvp titles including the allegiance titles are the worthwhile titles. (play the game and get basically)
Of the 4 resource titles mentioned, only the treasure and wisdom titles have a purpose for the player. The sweet tooth and drunkard titles only contribute to Kind Of A Big Deal etc.

PvE is basically a grind-based game after a player went thru the story and explorable areas. Generally true for most other games IMHO, so stop complaining.

If you don't like how the lucky title may have an additional tier added then don't go for it. The only reason why people went for the lucky and unlucky titles was to gain an easy max title which no effort involved besides the gold required to buy stacks of tickets.

Titles give a purpose and a goal. Without titles, there's basically no purpose to play the game since there is no goal to achieve besides fun.

All this grind to unlock achievements for GWEN and thus GW2 makes me rather fearful of what they have in store for GW2...

.... You think that addition is bad?

They removed "Hated" from the Unlucky title track altogether! I spent hours and tons of platinum on tickets to get Unlucky track points just so I could try and get closer to Hated.... and for what? Nothing! They've taken it away... and now we just get "Wretched" and "Jinxed" ... both of which sound downright retarded........ and the absolutely epic "Cursed by Fate", which despite sounding a bit better than the other two is practically unobtainable. >_<;;

Meh... These weekend events at least are still cheaper than voluntarily breaking lockpicks. Those things cost a bloody fortune...

So, we are waiting for confirmation in regards to the lucky title. There are a number of people that will probably get lucky (5) this weekend, so we will just have to wait to be sure. I look foreward to it.

People on wiki are jumping the gun and reading into things they dont know. But hey, its the internet.

this bloody well better be a joke!
after afk-ing from the start i am currently at 600k and it seems ill need 2 more weekend event to get to max (that is if i can scrape up the gold for it!). and if we had ... what ... 4 events in 1 year - that means i should reach tier 5 by the start of 2008.
how the hell can anyone that wasnt here from the start hope to reach max if they dont make the events happen more often? especially if there really is a new tier!

excuse me while i go afk the anger away!

I'm with you on this one. I find any other title just pointless. Why go for a title that doesn't show your talent at all, but how much time your willing to waste on non-skilled titles.?

Lucky is a money sink, duh.

and the sky is blue

I like the max being 2,500,000... if I ever get r7 treasure hunter, it will get me pretty near it... in theory if you ran 10,000 chests and retained every time.. that'd be blessed by fate!

People are complaining because they wasted 500kish-700kish already on these titles based on (potentially) false information from an official Anet website that were only 5 tiers.

We can stop complaining when Anet puts a refund quest in to give back all the gold to people take away their titles too who were misled by false official information and chose to waste a ton of gold based on that false information, and now based on the new information of added tiers want their money back. Or better yet they can simply keep the titles at 5 tiers as they were advertised to be on an official Anet website.

The talk in this thread saying these titles are "easy" to get is nonsense. Getting 500k-1 mill is extremely hard, and the immense time and energy to do that should not just arbitrarily be flushed down the drain by Anet adding more tiers out of the blue for no reason.

You don't have to get these titles you choose to get them. They are afterall more for status, if even that, and less for practical use. Besides nobody said that you have to max them out and nobody said you have to get them all. If you're putting in the time and effort to get these titles you should want to get them, not feel as though you're forced to get them. And that's exactly what these and many of the other titles are, they're purely for the players interest and further enjoyment of the game. So if you don't enjoy it then don't do it.

Furthermore the max tier of these titles should be hard to get and not something someone can do if they put in 2 hours a week. Of course you could always say that there are the secondary effects of the titles which effect the retention of your weapon/armor salvages of mods and use of lockpicks. But has the implimentation of these effects taken anything away from the game? Has it now become much harder to salvage a mod off a weapon? The answer is no it hasn't become much harder. Infact the inherent effects of these titles has made it nothing but easier to get the mod that you wanted while giving you a certain % chance of retaining what you were taking the mod off of.

As for how adding new levels to the max (un)-lucky titles, yes it's disapointing to find out. However, if people were basing their cost/time input on highest tier shown on wiki or other sites then they would ofcourse still have both the gold/time time move on to the next tier. Because the ability to work towards this event only occurs once in a blue moon then the 'planning' for this title is irrelivant. As for the cost of this title it's not as if people walk away from these weekend events saying 'Uh oh now I have to earn back all the gold I wasted so that I can get ready for the next event.' People realize that the ability to work towards this title only comes around every now and then. So anyone who is going for higher levels of this title will have stockpiles of gold that they can use; therefore it's not as big of a problem as some people make it out to be. But if you can't earn back the gold that you spent on tickets in the 3 or more months between events then you probably shouldn't be going for this title.

And finally this title is earned by going afk and standing in a circle and by people who have nothing better to do with their gold. Another tier? Big deal!

If they did add a new tier, then I'm glad I didn't waste that much money on the lucky title track.

PlayNC is the company that invented korean grindfest.

They are just going back to the roots.

Apparently the massive losses they've had with all games with exception of GW didn't convince them that it's a bad idea.

If it's any consolation, you'll always be hated in my eyes.

And even if it are 2.500.000 points.
If you run chests you can get near it and don't forget that it's an account based title. Which means that whenever you open a chest with a lockpick you gain points.

Í had 511.000 before the weekend started but I didn't have the chance yet to go afk^^ (How you do that? ) But yeah, I hope I make it to 50.000 losses before it ends. Currently I'm at537.876/36.885. Guess I won't find out about a new trier myself.

Um... would you rather have nothing to work towards?

Yes, most titles are for grinders. If you're not a grinder, I can see why you would not care about them, but I don't understand why you would oppose them.

If you were actually working towards Lucky (6), I still don't see how an addition of another tier is frustrating... you can still get your Lucky (6) and display it and get the same bonus to retaining lockpicks. So you haven't lost anything other than a potential KoaBD point. And if you were doing lucky just to get a KoaBD point, there's something wrong with you, not with the title... it's one of the hardest titles to get. Kinda like saying "Let me go get rank 15 so I can have another KoaBD point.

Well to start off on this terrible post by you, Lucky title is in no way a hard title to get, just takes too much time. And about working on a title just to get the end result, what title don't you do that with? If I am working on cartographer, I won't stop at 99.9%, I'd get the 100%. Why would someone "work" so hard on this title if they didn't want to get max in the end. With the recent change to Lucky, it will now take over double the initial amount to reach max. That is something definatly worth complaints.