Rotscale + Hard Mode = Impossible

Richardt

Richardt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

http://friendsofloa.com/forum

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Deep Wound and Stunning Strike

Lowered health+Daze=FTW

Took a while and had to micro my heroes (and my buddy died right off so he just microed his three heroes too), but we did it.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

LOL did it a long time ago (on HM surely), had some healers (one MM hybrid), me, nuker, SV interrupt N/Me, SS.

We were 3 Humans 3 heroes....steamrolled the bastard, no deaths from our side.

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
If you have that much shutdown, how exactly do you whittle down his 5600+ HP and ungodly armor? 1 ursan
1 mm
1 nuker
1 axe war + plague touch
3 healers
1 anythin else


thats what me and my group killed him with

ursan=armour ignore

plague touch its dazed on him/it and just spam flail on him and interupt all he does



edit

use a conset as well

The S H A D O W

The S H A D O W

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

The Last Offensive [RusH]

A/

600/Smite > all.. thats only u wanna stand there for like 30mins- 1 hour.. tanking him... but getting there take some time since the monsters in HM don't exactly do full damage...

erfweiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cold Black Eyes

W/A

When my alliance took Rotscale down, we had a very mixed group. Two warriors, two monks, a mesmer with SS, Splinter ranger, SV, and me (SY/TNTF Paragon).

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

my guild does a weekly vanquish area and this was are area last week. we had a balanced group and it seemed like we had less trouble with rotscale and his buddies then run to get to the area from toa. but we had monks stand outside the area and did a lot of pulling and the few resses we had to wait til frozen ground was gone to to that

kuhu

kuhu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hardcore Caravan

N/Me

Im trying to remember what I took, I just did this with a friend last night.

SS (me) with pain inverter and smooth criminal
SH ele (friend)
Heal monk
Prot monk
Sword Warrior with bleed, deep wound and maybe an interrupt/knockdown
N/Rt healer
Minion bomber
Interrupt Mesmer

We died once but its only because the interrupt mesmer died. Once that mesmer is on him, he can't do shit, and even if he can, pain inverter does a nice job. Deep wound takes 20% off of that 5600 life so thats a BIG help. Also if you can corner him and cast AoE like Meteor Shower and Savannah Heat he will just run around in the AoE and do nothing.

Coverticus

Coverticus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Zodiac Elites [TZE]

Mo/

H/Hh-able:

1 Ursan
Heroes
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SabWay Necros, tho I changed the Minion Master to a Blood Spoil Victor

Hench
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1 Warrior
1 Monk
1 Mesmer
1 Ranger

It did cheat a little and used a Essence of Celerity and shrine bonus (as well as a few deaths and micro management issues) but got there:



It DOES depend on the spawn tho!

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Ehm, I just recently used 3 smiting signet monks and pwned him very epicly... ¬.¬

Hugh Manatee

Hugh Manatee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2007

Nice But Deadly[nice]

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When we did this we had a bunch of warriors, a ranger and a mesmer, and a monk human, and filled out the rest with heroes. We just pulled real careful, beat the hell out of his army, then rolled him little by little.

Aztec Mijo

Aztec Mijo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[LaZy]

W/E

vanquished majesty's rest with ursan pug and we took him down with little trouble.
tons of health on that one D :

was a while back but i think we used 5 ursan 1 necro 2 monks

Azza

Azza

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

United Farmers of Europe[FOE]

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Ok i have a really good memory, and i remember this..

Gloria Vander Belt posted herself Vanquishing rotscale with no problem using hero and hench-(god i hate Gloria Vander Belt)

Using
Herself-Bleeding Gash sword war with good survival and energy management, and i think Skull crack elite wich leaves casters dazed
Hero healer, WoH, with heavy healing skills and protective spirit
Hero Nuker, Savannah heat/Arcane Echo/ and some other heavy nuking skills
Hero SV- Standard SV blood degen build
Henchmen=Healer/Nuker/Mesmer/Ranger

pixie the monk

pixie the monk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

here and sometimes there...

AatX

Mo/Me

Me and my friend soloed him a few days agon in HM to get his nice bow
some modded 600hp/smite does the trick in about 10min

shoyon456

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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I'll add my 2 cents. I cleared him a few days ago when I was vanquishing tyria. He was hard to kill, but once you get the spawns near the shrine across the bridge, just flag the heros/henchies back and pull oldschool w/ a longbow, and take the flag off quickly so they come to heal you before you die.

I had 1 HB hero monk, the sabway MM, the sabway SS, alesia, orion, reyna, and stefan. In fact it was one of the easiest and fastest zones to clear in tyria in my opinion

PS: even though i was h/h'ing it, the bow still dropped for me, im one lucky dude (not)

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

I just vanquished Majesty's Rest with H and H. I was a BA ranger, and I took an SS N and an N/Rt, Jin as an R/P w/ shouts, Alesia, Orion, Reyna and Stefan... but the problem wasn't really Rottie. He just took a long time. It was me being stupid. I was trying to take out the clerics first, and they were impossible to pull. I finally went after the skeleton rangers and the necrotic horseman and once they were gone, the clerics were easy and so was the rest.

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007



Worked for me, though I had to disable OOP and DF for the most part so I dont get insta gibbed by Desecrate Enchantments.

Inner Salbat

Inner Salbat

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Leader - ANZAC

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Well I've had trouble with Rotscale he seams to be my kryptonite, I couldn't even kill him in normal mode before there was a hard mode and now I have to kill him to be able to advance my vanquisher title, I've tried everything in this thread that doesn't require real people too no avail, in the past I tried with fall 8 man teams and failed.

It's obviously doable by the undeniable fact of screen shots, but one thing that is missing is a screen shots of this so called good spawn points, every time I've gone there he is standing right in the middle of the stairs at the doors.

Anyway help would be appeachated indeed, further more I've put a post on Smokey & Co's thread to pay to have it done, if anyone can do it without me I'd gladly pay to have him murdered, Majesty's Rest 25k is the going rate for Smokey & Co. and I'll throw in the bow if it drops for myself to whom ever the party leader is.

Inner Salbat

Inner Salbat

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Leader - ANZAC

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rothan Celt
Lol im suprised at the responses to the thread.... i mean hes ....easy :s i very much had no idea half the time what i was to come up against in phrop and i got the bastard think i was using MM.... myself as ER smite/prot used a pretty nifty idea of putting Judes intervention on minions and making them blow up! which seriously did a ton of dmg to the undead all neat and clean Well I've been trying it's not for the want of none effort, I've vanquished everything up this one area and beyond it, from far eastern frontier to Talmark Wilderness by myself, I could vanquish even majesty's rest if it wasn't for rotscale, I've been trying for 2 days with all manner of build constructions, making some of my own, running Usran on myself (which by the way makes getting there a breeze).

The problem I have is this; my Guild is dead I can't leave it because it has sentimental value to me and those still left in it so I have no one but H/H available to me, I've sat for the best part of today in ToA paying people to run it for me for 25k (no one has yet taken up the offer), everything I've tried in this thread has failed I'm obviously missing some sort of tactical know how that I'm just not getting, I'm farely certain that I could vanquish the rest of the game but this small part.

I've had messages from people but have declined when I said hard mode, and there reply is basically 'stuff that'.

The only thing I'm yet to try is multi consets, cc's & power stones, and just plain good old fashioned death - death - death - power stone - kill one "yay", death death death - power stone - kill one.

The problem with minions is this you may have just gotten lucky with that, because without a body count to keep up for the long hall your screwed when you run out of corps.

--- STOP THE PRESS [Done] -- and without having to pay someone that feels so much better!! will post the exact build when I'm done cleaning this area of evil.

Inner Salbat

Inner Salbat

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Leader - ANZAC

E/

Myself
[build prof=M/Me hea=12 pro=3+1 div=12+1][Healers Boon][Dwayna's Kiss][Ethereal Light][Heal Party][Cure Hex][Protective Spirit][Dismiss Condition][Selfless Spirit][/build]
Uhmm Selfless Spirit has the wrong icon anyway moving on.

[build prof=N/Mo death=12+1+3 sou=9+1 pro=9][Jagged Bones][Animate Shambling Horror][Animate Bone Fiend][Death Nova][Protective Spirit][Cure Hex][Signet of Lost Souls][Extinguish][/build]

These 2 have nothing to do with me I didn't create them, one of them I think is part of sabway.

[build prof=N/Rt sou=10+1 cur=12+1+1 res=8][Spiteful Spirit][Insidious Parasite][Enfeeble][Barbs][Rip Enchantment][Weapon of Warding][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]

[build prof=N/Rt sou=12+1+1 res=12][Weapon Of Remedy][Weapon of Warding][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Vengeful Weapon][Signet of Lost Souls][Death Pact Signet][/build]

Then added Dunham / Orion / Claude / Alesia, the only part I am slightly ashamed of is I used a conset but if it gets the job done why complain.

The tactical data I was missing to all my plans was (drum roll) he has to be on the right side of the mountain, not in the middle.

Started off all fine and well, pined the SS at the end of the bridge maintained [Protective Spirit] [Dwayna's Kiss] & [Dismiss Condition], disabled Extinguish because it was messing up my grove I was in, because it would remove conditions I was using to remove to heal him up, killed off the 3 rangers at the top, had a couple of party clears but no matter still have a conset and a power stone to use, killed of the crelics before the necred horsemen because I was sick of them healing the horsemen, then polished him off and still have yet to use the conset.

The rest of the team was still on the other end of the bridge safe as can be for the time being, Rotting Scale same way [Spiteful Spirt].

Rotscale, ran up to up him started beating on him with my sword doing -1 -2 dmg, while the rest of the H/H did the dmg, [Protective Spirit][Dismiss Condition] on myself and maintained [Healers Boon] and [Heal Party] when required, you might need to [Dismiss Condition] on yourself from time to time, had 1 party death while I was taking him down (due to me being dazed and not noticing it), that's when I activated the conset, because he was half health and I'll be damned if he was going to beat me this time, took about 12mins to kill him.

It was also a run of firsts my first scalp of Rotscale (not even killed him in normal mode yet), Elite Ranger Tome, and first time I've ever used a conset.

Paul Dawg

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

House of Myrthe (HoMe)

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It can indeed by done with Sabway; I can vouch for it because I just did it by more or less the same method. The key is that you don't have to be afraid of party wipes for two reasons: first, there's a statue of Balthazar right at the entrance of the island, so if you're willing to pay 100g per 2% of DP, you can wipe it off easily; and second, once you get rid of Rotscale's annoying friends, you can keep pressuring him, without taking tons of damage, until he dies. So DP isn't a disaster anyway.

I'm not saying it was easy, but all I had to do was change some skills on MY bar. The Sabway heroes were fine, though I'm sure [spoil victor] would have helped on one of the necros. Anyway, I swapped my elite for [skull crack], and also added [plague touch], as many on here have recommended. Both worked great once I finally got there. (They were hardly ideal for Talmark Wilderness and all the other places you have to slog through first.) Getting rid of the other rotting dragons wasn't much fun, but they did die one by one with concentrated fire, and then after a wipe on my part Rotscale was left by his lonesome. ... Resurrected and came back for the final kill. Interrupting him constantly and always sending him back his dazed condition with [plague touch], I made him lose health slowly but steadily until he finally croaked.

Oh, and I left from Temple of Ages and took an eight-man team, including Claude, Alesia, and two other henchies. Claude and Alesia were crucial. And I rezoned a couple of times because I didn't like Rotscale's spawn points. It makes a huge difference if he's at the back end of the island, allowing you to pick off the skeleton bowmasters and necrid horsemen and damned clerics without aggroing the real nasty guys.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt
I had one area left for Tyrian vanquisher - yes, you guessed it - Majesty's Rest. I've read this thread thoroughly, so I had a good idea of what I needed to do, however I thought I'd pop over with the usual Sab's build just to see how the layout was.

liquid fever

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

i did this yesterday with a few alliance mates, this was the team:

3x necro heroes (sabs), the mm had ps to spam
1x hb monk
1x mimic ursan monk who was in monk for rotscale
1x barrage
2x ursan, both casted PI then charged in

it wasnt a team where we spent a lot of time on thinking what we needed as u can see, i just said anyone up for rotscale vq in alliance channel, 3 mins later we were off

we boosted to +10dp when we entered the area and didnt have a single death... we took down the minions pretty fast, then rotscale died slow but steady, we didnt have trouble at all

Barrett

Barrett

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

W/

Me and my brother did it with just randomly setup heroes
we vanquished area with only 1 full team death(enemys spawn behind and came behind us .... )

just take some cash with u and get morale boost from the statue before bridge to rotscale

try pull the enemys down the steps and let ranged eles kill

both me and my brother were ursan at the time i was r5 and my brother r3

Dodo Brabbel

Dodo Brabbel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

DIF

Mo/Me

I just killed rotscale using the Duo monk rotscale build on PvXwiki

Me as Mo/N and a Hero as Mo/R

I took 2 other heroes and 4 hench to vanquish the rest of the area.

DokkyDok

DokkyDok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Interested in finding one.

Mo/

A standard, unmodified 600/smite duo can do it as well, and vanquish the rest of the area. Even if you're not a monk, you can have a pair of heroes do it with some micro.

BigDave

BigDave

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Manchester, UK

The Sapphire Rose [TSR]

I took him out two days ago with an SV nec hero, healing from a monk hero and PS from an E/Mo hero (PS from anyone will do, i just stuffed it on my earth nuker hero)....kindof like the Duncan The Black method in Slavers Exile.

I respawned a few times to get Rotscales group away from the rangers, etc... then used PI to clear up the rangers one by one, pull the clerics down (as they seem to like to get right in your face), then kill them and take out the necrid with whatever you have. I was being a bit careful to avoid accidental aggro.

When it was just Rotscales group i used PI, and splinter barraging to take down the Rotting Dragons making sure i had PS, Life Bond and guardian on me at all times (and even then i nearly died a couple of times). Once Rotscale was left i ran like a girl to break aggro then sent in the SV nec to do the business. Once he got to his last 500HP or so i just took everyone into range, hit PI again and let him nuke my group. Job done.

The hardest part was getting past the imps in Talmark Wilderness with that setup. It wasn't pretty......nasty little buggers

Azza

Azza

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

United Farmers of Europe[FOE]

R/





can be hero henchies, My Son have improved since then and can be done with no deaths(propper flagging of heroes.......required for that)

plus better Monk hero build(HB), Better SS set-up, and take a SV instead of MM, he acctually forgot rotscale was there while doing this Vanquish(very lucky to get it done he said-the Heroes and henchies took alot of the DP from Tahl Mark wilderness,due to crap monk build at the time), he took me back on my ranger(BHA) and i took 2 echo nukers, plus my healer monk(WoH at the time)


NO Micro manage needed either

Windf0rce

Windf0rce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

A cheer up to people afraid of Rottie: just got him with hero/henchmen, so you can do it too.

Adapted my team to a Protective Bond build based on info of Wiki's talkpage, bought blessings at shrine, overall VERY effective. Hardest part was getting to Majesty's Rest, the Fire Imps are really nasty.

It was pretty gimmicky because as an Ele I ran mostly Necro spells. That's because I needed one Monk hero for Prot Bond, one Necro hero for SS and another Necro for Spoil Victor. As I decided to go add a BHA Ranger for extra safety, I played the SV myself (Hex with SV, roll face on keyboard to spam the rest, refresh SV, repeat). Attributes are all pretty straigthforward, mine being 12+1+1 E. Storage and 12 Blood Magic.

Basically bonded myself, Jin and Livia, the three of us did all damage. Talkhora stood back to keep bonds up, and the henchies helped with healing and Blood is Power.

Screenie including builds and flagging:


Charr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/A

I used a smiter hero with Holy Wrath and Retribution, and positioned myself to just a little bit outside his aggro, so he can attack me but not use his spells and just waited until he dropped dead.

Azza

Azza

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

United Farmers of Europe[FOE]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by beserk
Just use sabway...owns him hard. sabway takes to long beacuase the MM, and the sabway healer can't keep up against his healing,
(In Hard Mode)
Ideal group, Tank-Skull Crack or Grenths balance(alot quicker)
Hero Healer-HB with heavy healing
Necro Hero-SV with degen
Elementalist Hero-Echo nuker <get echo nuker flagged near edges of cliff and bomb necrid horsemen and the other non bone dragon enemies

with Freind(ranger BHA)=Healer hero(HB), illusion mesmer hero(Migraine), Nuker hero(Echoe)<use a second echo for taking cliff enemies out quicker.
with Henchies=Helaer/Mage/Mesmer/ranger

idea is to take out the Necrid horseman, chained clerics ETC, tank goes up while heroes are flagged back to edge of bridge, aggro all bone dragons(enough so crypt wraiths attack from behind), use sprint to leg it down accross the bridge, bone dragons will loose aggro, now tank out the crypt wraiths and let ur heros/henchies kill'em, now flag ur heroes close to stairs, but not directly close, and aggro the bones dragons(rotscale will loose aggro easy), now its just the bone dragons, Tank them out while SV and nukers bomb'em hard, now there dead its just rotscale...pretty much flag back heroes/henchies run in an aggro bubble ahead then release flag once an bubble ahead(hit sprint at this point), rotscale's sights are now set on u, just keep him dazed with skull crack, Nuker and SV will be dealing the high damage, mesmer will be degening, u tanking, healers healing.

if u have GWEN consider bringing ear bite.it deals higher damage and causes bleeding, avoid deep wound, it just creates the illussion u almost have him killed, lol

and doing it that way, the fight is 2 mins long, and there will be no death penalty....

i tried Sabway/half sabway, and found the deaths were occuring to much and the fight was taking like 10-15 mins..and the time u have the Rotscale killed u have 50% DP...seems as though with sabway he donesnt touch the tank either leaving u not to die, but making heroes useless when there at 60% DP

Mohnzh

Mohnzh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld...

[KCOR]

Mo/

Me = healing monk (with PI and technobabble)
two friends = warriors, sword builds, no PI or technobabble
3 necro heroes
Tahlk = prot monk
Zhed = fire nuker

Couple of party wipes (mainly to wraiths coming from behind), but the statue of Balth lets you regain any DP and even give yourself morale boost. It did take a little bit of time due to pulling the other foes and being specific with hero flags, but we handled it pretty well and vanquished while we were at it. Wasn't too bad. I haven't tried Rotscale on NM yet...

007wood

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Where you live

By Virtue Of Power

Mo/Me

600/Smite him.

The first time i tried i was lucky he was trapped behind the building.
So he can only range me and cant cast spell on me

Reaching him is a pain though. (That mob with grenth balance which appears out of nowhere and that mesmer stalker).

FelixLives

FelixLives

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Dogs of Warr

E/A

WOW I couldn't believe how easy he was! I was dreading doing majesty's rest in HM. Saved it for my last area to vanquish. (WOOT! Tyrian Vanquisher DONE!) Memories of party wipes with old guildies sounded no fun!!!

Did some home work. Followed these suggestions. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:Majesty%27s_Rest

Tried this build team...

Master of Whispers (N/Me) - Spiteful Spirit, Mantra of Resolve - OAVDMsNHP5BhmdYPUGODV1IA

Livia (N/Mo) - Spoil Victor, Life Siphon - OANjcMGMBTqQtBzQFCuBGOVVCAA

Tahlkora (Mo/Me) - Bonder / Protector - OwUjApP7gS6DxDHEpEUayDPAyEA

I was using a Ether Renewal fire nuker build (love it with mindbender!) Wife was fire nuker too. We had a mes and 2 monks. Worked like a charm. The hardest part was getting through the inferno imps!

It took a little bit to figure out where to put things and how to agro/pull. Once rotscale was on these necro's radar, WOW! I've never seen him go down that fast!!

SV FTW!

-Felix

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

I did it again last night but this time on my warrior it went smooth with a sabs x3 necro heroes plus 2warrior 1necro and alesia from temple of the ages, i was using a dragon slash/ save yourself build.

It went great with no problems at all but his health went down very slowly as expected zero deaths though and got a rotwing bow for free ...

Rath of Fire

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2008

Indiana

n/a

E/

Rotscale is easy, even on hard mode. Well I used 600/smtie. No deaths also. Yea the time is 2 hrs and 39mins because i left right before i starting killing rotscale.

Xslash

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2008

u can farm it 2 man..even in HM.

600 health monk w/ GB.

a smiter monk with Symbiosis -- Brings monk to like 3000 health.

Anime Divine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/

well he was easy on HM normal sabway build carefull pulling of the mob.plague touch him when he dazes you and start bashing him 2/3 min and hes death

SkekSister

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2008

Brighton UK

Did it in HM after a third attempt, two humans 6 heroes.

Humans:
AoM Dervish with wearying strike + Pain invertor.
Dom/interrupt mesmer.

Heroes:
Sabway Curses and Splinter/Heal necros,
Koss with headbutt and plague touch (for daze)
Dunkoro as M/Me
Tahlkora as M/Me
Pyre Fierceshot as BHA/interrupt ranger

No con set or other boosts just the blessing from the shrine at the bridge.

Pulled the undead around him, then once there were just him and the dragons left we banzai'd in. The dragons went down extremely fast and once Rotscale was on his own it was just a matter of keeping him dazed and hammering at him for about 5 mins. We had a few deaths but it was pretty comfortable once we settled into our roles and positions.

Cyclades of Knossos

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

SNOW (GoW)

W/

This is my last area to vanquish in Tyria.

Reading this thread carefully. Die ALL the dang time.

AtomicMew

AtomicMew

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

N/A

I just did it with discordway. It's not hard at all and certainly not impossible.

Flag one hero close by, or use yourself. Flag your healers outside of range, they will heal and rez, your MM will continuously make bodies. Put PI and barbs on him as much as possible, and he'll go down fast.