Rotscale + Hard Mode = Impossible

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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I POSTED builds, look back over the last 6 pages. Posting your titles does nothing to impress me, titles are easy to get. I posted builds, people read them. The builds can beat anything, and would beat Rotscale.

dunky_g

dunky_g

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

[SNOW]

this seems to be turning into a QQ thread

blaze oreon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

MOTU

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
I posted builds, they will work against him, one person even said it worked. Hell, here's another one for your enjoyment:

War/X - anything, don't care what
Mo/E - Smiter
Mo/E - Smiter
Mo/E - Smiter
N/E - SS or SV
Me/E - Anything shut down
Mo/E - RC or WoH
Mo/E - WoH


That will win. If it doesn't, it's because you are bad at the game. Mate this is not a build post - its a shot in the dark

Why not post the full build (skill setup for each char slot) may be a bit more help if thats what your trying to do

Ruricu

Ruricu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

치 The Spearmen 치

Go Here.

I used the strategy discussed in this guide to beat Rotty for the vanquish, worked like a charm. No need for big team builds; in fact; you use heroes, which also reduces your chance of failure by reducing the probability of human error. Gogo Olias/Master of Whispers.

Accursed

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

fenix... that will win, or your bad at the game? come on dude, we are trying to help this dude beat Rotscale and your turning this from a helpful thread to a QQ thread, but I guess this explains Riverside.

Here's the team build friends and I are going to beat with Rotscale:

Monk - Hybrid
Monk - Hybrid
Ritualist - SS. Bring Shelter.
Paragon - Imbagon
Assassin - My Custom Build called 'Mystic Moebius'
Assassin - My Custom Build called 'Dazed Death'
Ranger Hero - BHA
Warrior Hero - 'ViM!'

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

[skill]broad head arrow[/skill] And a melee pounding on him is all you need, rest of build doesnt matter much.

KennyC

KennyC

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blizzard.
fenix... that will win, or your bad at the game? come on dude, we are trying to help this dude beat Rotscale and your turning this from a helpful thread to a QQ thread, but I guess this explains Riverside.

Here's the team build friends and I are going to beat with Rotscale:

Monk - Hybrid
Monk - Hybrid
Ritualist - SS. Bring Shelter.
Paragon - Imbagon
Assassin - My Custom Build called 'Mystic Moebius'
Assassin - My Custom Build called 'Dazed Death'
Ranger Hero - BHA
Warrior Hero - 'ViM!' If youre using BHA you need 2 of them, and take SQ too because in hardmode the dazing effect does not last long enough.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KennyC
If youre using BHA you need 2 of them, and take SQ too because in hardmode the dazing effect does not last long enough. I did it with 1 bha, had a bow with 33% longer daze.

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats back home in my t-16 and they're not much bigger than two meters.

Accursed

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by KennyC
If youre using BHA you need 2 of them, and take SQ too because in hardmode the dazing effect does not last long enough. I said I had a BHA Ranger and an assassin with my own build called 'Dazed Death'.

Dazed Death:

[skill]Beguiling Haze[/skill]
[skill]Critical Defenses[/skill]
[skill]Critical Agility[/skill]
[skill]Golden Lotus Strike[/skill]
[skill]Wild Strike[/skill]
[skill]Death Blossom[/skill]
[skill]Unsuspecting Strike[/skill]
===
For the 8th skill you could use either use a Hard Rezz or Dash.

Jeremy Untouchable

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

me and 2 of the guys in my guild beat him with a GB tank and a couple of Ranger spirits, along with lots of enchants. he drops fast with me stealing 1500 hp every few seconds..

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Bring 1 BHA Ranger, 1 Migrane+Frustration Mesmer and have someone go /Rt for Restoration. The rest can be whatever you want for damage and healing.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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You lot are going to just love this!

I had one area left for Tyrian vanquisher - yes, you guessed it - Majesty's Rest. I've read this thread thoroughly, so I had a good idea of what I needed to do, however I thought I'd pop over with the usual Sab's build just to see how the layout was.

2 problems: I forgot to load my BHA build, so I was left with Splinter/Barrage with Ebon Vanguard Assassin, Pain Inverter and Smooth Criminal. Second problem - I left ToA without realising I forgot to select a party of 8, so 3 Necros, Alesia, Stefan and Orion without poor old Thom.

Pinned them all on the bridge, kept running back and forth casting the assassin and PI on the archers until they died, the 2 clerics helpfull came down and died nicely too.

Had one mad dash at the rotting drags, but got wiped pretty damn quick. Went and killed a few tree things, 10 minions and tried again. Mad rush, splintery barrages all over the shop, team wipe again, but only Rotty left.

Quich trip to Mr. Balthazar for some Dp removal, rounded up the stragglers for some minion renewal, then I tried again.

Rushed straight up the stairs, Stefan straight into the fray (bless 'im) and I alternated spamming PI, Assassin and, possibly the key, Smooth Criminal. The latter invariably stole and disabled Deathly Swarm.

2 minutes or so later - one dead Rotscale. What's up with that?



Notice no consumables and Livia at -37%DP. I was a bit dumbfounded to say the least

Winstar

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

Just beat it using,

2 Warriors (not ideal, but 2 of us wanted to do it with those toons. 1 used spoil victor 1 used sig judgement bane)
1 SS necro
1 Mes Migrain+Frustration
1 Choking gas ranger
1 Nuker
2 monks

Just hold back while you clear everything around rotty. Move in, keep migaine frustration up and your cg ranger owns him

Elusive of SoLD

Elusive of SoLD

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

England

SoLD

Mo/Me

Rotscale has a huge health base - use that against him.

1 - Grab a tank, stick him upfront to take all the damage
2 - cast as many permanent enchantments on him as possible
3 - use Symbosis
4 - Have the tank take all the damage and use grenth's balance on Rotscale to get a full heal
5 - when Rotscale doesnt take any more damage this way - he's there for the taking

::walks off into the sunset with his Rotscale Recurve Bow::

noneedforclevernames

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Jay To Much [SrE]

Me/N

I beat him with a balance with heroes and henchies since i was bored last night.. and it was pretty effortless as well.

The Little Viking

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

innergalactic gargleblasters

W/Mo

well, 2 days ago i did it by accident. I was vanquishing Talmarak Wilderness, got it done regardless of those pesky little fire imps. (worse creatues in the whole game). and went on thru to Majestys rest. Didnt realize where i was until I came across the balthazar statue. At that point I thought to myself... there aint no way, but since Im here lets give it a shot.
I had myself (ss necro), ele hench, warriror hench, monk hench, and ranger hench. Heros were MM, protect monk, and 1 other that i cant remember. After a bit of pulling I was actually able to win the day. 2 areas vanquished without a lot of trouble. Suprised the hell out of me. (consumables did help a bit).

Voltaic Annihilator

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

E/Me

do it the good ol old fashion way...ursan it

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

Take Ursan!!!!!!!!! Gg!!!!!!!!

anshin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt
You lot are going to just love this!

I had one area left for Tyrian vanquisher - yes, you guessed it - Majesty's Rest. I've read this thread thoroughly, so I had a good idea of what I needed to do, however I thought I'd pop over with the usual Sab's build just to see how the layout was.

2 problems: I forgot to load my BHA build, so I was left with Splinter/Barrage with Ebon Vanguard Assassin, Pain Inverter and Smooth Criminal. Second problem - I left ToA without realising I forgot to select a party of 8, so 3 Necros, Alesia, Stefan and Orion without poor old Thom.

Pinned them all on the bridge, kept running back and forth casting the assassin and PI on the archers until they died, the 2 clerics helpfull came down and died nicely too.

Had one mad dash at the rotting drags, but got wiped pretty damn quick. Went and killed a few tree things, 10 minions and tried again. Mad rush, splintery barrages all over the shop, team wipe again, but only Rotty left.

Quich trip to Mr. Balthazar for some Dp removal, rounded up the stragglers for some minion renewal, then I tried again.

Rushed straight up the stairs, Stefan straight into the fray (bless 'im) and I alternated spamming PI, Assassin and, possibly the key, Smooth Criminal. The latter invariably stole and disabled Deathly Swarm.

2 minutes or so later - one dead Rotscale. What's up with that?

Notice no consumables and Livia at -37%DP. I was a bit dumbfounded to say the least
Amaziing. Everyone quotes to diss but noone quotes to congratulate. This sir, is an accomplishment and for that, you deserve THE cookie.

*Hands cookie*

I'd like to know if the original poster already beat him with all the suggestions given to this point. Over 3 months passed. :P


EDIT: Didn't know that quoting also showed the pic. Removed it from quote.

Knightly Bird

Knightly Bird

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Iowa

Teh Dark Empire

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We had 3 ursans go at him in HM, it's not impossible, just takes good planning and a lot of patience.

Best strategy is to take out the healers first by pulling them, which is easier said than done.

Tarkin

Tarkin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/N

Generic tatics

1. your must do great damage in short time, not a must a constant long time damage, better high damage in short time. this damage is not to kill rotscale, but to kill the other foes with him...

2. ok, no trouble to come to rotscale.

3. kill one by one of monks, bowman, and horseman, the monk with rotscale easily follow you to bridge. easy kill just pull.

4. time to kill the dragons with rotscale, use Sb in yourself, flag heros (spread heros because of AoE spells of rotscale) in bridge, go to midle of stairs, this place ranger cant hit you and you can strike them, nuke the dragons with rotscale kill one by one, a interupt to troll ungument is good not a must i kill dragons without interupts.

5. kill the dragons can be boring, because they run away from AoE, and SB duration is short, return wait SB recharge and return again in new charge to kill a low life dragon...

6. ok, you kill all dragons.

* if you look in radar one dragon still alive, because i have luck and rotscale follow me alone to right spot before i kill all other dragons.

7. alternate tatic, you can kill rotscale from stairs if you have a solid damage build, remember dragons cant strike you in stairs if you stay in the right spot and must have obisidian flesh or sb on all time...

8. pull rotscale to stairs, you must be the tank. stay betwen heros and henchs and rotscale, rotscale must focus damage only in you. in this phase is a must only one hench or human get all damage, if only one get all damage no worrys about healing

9. broadarrow, and rit spirits unconditional damage will kill and interupt rotscale fast. manually use broad arrow no stop, and painfull bond to boost damage.

10. for henchs i take, the monk for sure, necro and mesmer. you can see a warrior in pictures its to hold agroo while i running to fight rotscale, you can use the other ranger hench...

11. heros, the main trick is dazed him and interupt him and let him focus dmage in only one person by time. in the pictures you can see my strategy, dazed with broadarrow and interupt + damage with machine gun spirits... i think a broad arrow ranger is a must no discuss about it... but if you dont have a rit, can use a migraine + Arcane Conundrum + Frustration + stolen energy skills mesmer dont be afraid about energy the necro hench have blood ritual, other good build is Spirit of Failure, Spirit Shackles, Ineptitude, Price of Failure (necro skill) and some other stolen energy skills this will drain rotscale energy and damage him high.

In name of god tips... rebirth is a must... only healing skill or protect spirit all time on, no enchants please...






In the pictures you can see me tanking, the heros henchs spread flag, the monks are flag away from rotscale range but in range to heal me, remember spirtis have a flatbow range can stay away from rotscale range and attack, they are the main damage source and work togheter with broadarrow to interupt rotscale. look my skill bar i dont use my AoE spells to avoid rotscale running away.

LOL i forget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rothen Kithkanan
One thing i've realised is that the spawn location can make this 'easier'. I think there's something like 5 different spawns on the island of which i've seen 3. In front of the door, way over to the right hand side and on the stairs. This was as easy one as they all bottle necked and didnt / couldnt move. A few meteor showers later and i was left with just rottie to focus on and even then he didnt move out of aoe (bug?) true chosse the best spawn for your strategy, in some spawn stairs are a safe place in anothers no... some spawns made pull strategy easier... rezone if you think dont get a good spawn

Sorry my bad english.

Rothen Kithkanan

Rothen Kithkanan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Between a rock and a hard place

Pah, who needs guilds?

E/

One thing i've realised is that the spawn location can make this 'easier'. I think there's something like 5 different spawns on the island of which i've seen 3. In front of the door, way over to the right hand side and on the stairs. This was as easy one as they all bottle necked and didnt / couldnt move. A few meteor showers later and i was left with just rottie to focus on and even then he didnt move out of aoe (bug?)

Regulus X

Regulus X

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

N/A

D/W

I'd say take N/Rt Healer x2, Paragon Support x1, SV x1, SH/Ward Elem x1, BHA Ranger x1, Dev. Hammer Warrior x1 and Yourself. ^^

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

It's really easy. All you need is you (ursan), sabway heroes, and 4 henchies. No preparation needed (that was my standard tyrian vanq build and I completely forgot about rotscale), though a brain and playing ability is required. The dudes don't care that their names are in the screen.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
It's really easy. All you need is you (ursan), sabway heroes, and 4 henchies. No preparation needed (that was my standard tyrian vanq build and I completely forgot about rotscale), though a brain and playing ability is required. The dudes don't care that their names are in the screen.

Heh, and use a lot of consumables I suppose?

Shaz

Shaz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarkin
Ursan + pre made build + consumables in SS, can't be put in the same post with "brain" and "ability"... Oh, like you always use your own builds that you made? Almost every good build now are pre made, maybe you change one or 2 skills to make it fit the situation but that doesn't mean it's your build. And yes it can be put in the same post, as apparently there are people that fail even with Ursan, that's why there is a guide in the Campfire. And those are weekend bonus item, they do not affect H/H.

GJ on owning that dragon Holy, you Ursan noob

Sword

Sword

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

wow i cleared the bone dragon area relatively easily with 8 man group - 2humans 3 heroes each. This was before consumables and ursan - so I cant imagine why u are having any difficulty with this.
If u have casters you shuold be able to kill a few dragons without taking too much damage as u can hide behind the wall that goes up to the dragons. (Im pretty sure how this is how we were successful)
And a human monk that knows how to prot in pve properly makes anything in pve a total breeze.



If ur curious at all I got r6 max by running 6 Sf heroes and 2 human monks for 95% of the pve stuff.
Ele bars were:
SF / glowing / liquid / fire attunment / glyph lesser / power drain / leech signet / res signet
xcept 2 eles - one which had ward melee and another with ward elements
(a bunch of ints on diff heroes is godly shutdown in pve as it is much easier to counter melee dmg with aegis etc and caster dmg tends to be devastating in some of the harder areas)

Sir Chunkalot

Sir Chunkalot

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

E/Mo

no complicated build needed. me and a friend vanquished it fairly easy with 6 ppl (2 real ppl, 4 heroes starting from druids overlook) only 2 things that u need, pre-prots and spinal shivers, its cake if u can do those 2 things. dont forgot an icy weapon

Trinity Fire Angel

Trinity Fire Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Desert

Legions of Engalion [自由]

Mo/W

meh,,, Rotscale is easy. we did it with something similar to this... but can be done by anyone really. just flag heros to the right spot.

1. E/A - Bosskiller for all the rangers. Just pick them off 1 by 1. I use a DOA solo build that has Shadow of Haste, Deaths Charge and Dark Escape to jump out and Shadow Form with the rest of the boss kill build. After all the rangers are dead, the rest of the team move in against the Rotscale.

2. Earth Tank with Obsidian Flesh (E/R perma-obs)

3. the rest were 2 monks, 1 N/Rt, P/W, and R/P Pack hunter. 1 monk was WoH Patient (Mo/A) and the other was RC with Leech Signet and Power REturn i think (Mo/Me). I think the N/Rt was Preservation and Life and Destruction... but can;t be sure... might have been Wanderlust....

it took 1/2 hour to kill the scale... but perhaps just take Spoil Victor?

Xirno

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Scottish Borders

Angel Sharks [DVDF]

Me/N

Done on my perma-survivor Paragon with a friend and heroes.



The armor and grail were used as a safety net - I am a survivor after all. Perfectly doable without them. He's the only boss to date I've used cons against.

idicious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Holland

LoD

P/W

I actually thought he was a pushover, went with 4 guildies, rest heroes balanced group (no ursanway, only had the sab jagged bomber). Had 2 wars, protted the wars with prot spirit and healing seed, took all the agro, kept prot spirit + healing seed on wars and the group went down fast. Don't get what the huge fuss is about him, we didn't use cons either, just a tiny bit of prot works wonders.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Since everyone seems to be posting screenshots, here's mine :P



Unfortunately, I can't remember what people were running, because the screenshot is over a year old... other than Olias, he was a MM. I'm guessing it would be much easier to do now, though. With all the PvE skills and stuff.

EDIT: I was staring at that hex breaker on my bar and remembered that we all for some reason thought that he uses a lot of hexes for his FoC and almost everyone brought that. Turned out to be useless. >.<

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

2 BHA Rangers, 2 Monks, 1 Ele, 1 "Tank", 1 SS, 1 SV > Rotscale in any mode.

jhu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

i finally killed rotscale too; it took a while to get it right though. here's my build:

me: w/n
[headbutt][brawling headbutt][barbarous slice][galrath slash][flail]["for great justice"][plague touch][sunspear rebirth signet]

ogden: mo/e
[healer's boon][heal party][ethereal light][dwayna's kiss][glyph of lesser energy][rebirth][extinguish][dismiss condition]

master of whispers: n/mo
[spiteful spirit][enfeeble][enfeebling blood][barbs][rip enchantment][protective spirit][signet of lost souls][rebirth]

margrid: r/rt
[broad head arrow][distracting shot][savage shot][lively was naomei][shadowsong][pain][flesh of my flesh]

then i brought the following henchmen: necro, monk, ele, and warrior. once at majesty's rest, there are certain spawns on the island where it's easier to take out rotscale's peripheral entourage (the undead rangers and the undead horseman). i had mow keep casting ss on these guys to kill them one at a time. once these guys were down, it's actually possible to lure the damned clerics to the bridge. it took me a few tries because they like to fly towards you and then fly back. eventually i was able to get them to not fly back to their starting position and killed them on the bridge. afterwards, i kept having mow cast ss on the rotting dragons. the heroes can be flagged just to the sides of the bottom of the stairs such that the dragon's shots will be blocked by the terrain. they'll just attack themselves to death. once rotscale's by himself, he's rather easy since i just kept him dazed. of course, it took me 8 tries to finally get this right.

arual

arual

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

I just went down there with my brother & 6 heroes to Vanquish the area and found it more grinding than hard. Just get the 3x Ele Nukers to run forwards, cast MS on the closest monster and run back (might need PS cast on them all). 3 or 4 of those and you should be down to just Rotscale and a couple of others - then just run in, keep the Broad Head Arrow and a couple of wanders on Rotscale while the Ele's finish off the rest of the monsters. When only Rotscale is left move the rest back or at least stop casting Fire Attunements and just SF/MS him the rest of the way.

R/Any (myself)
[Volley][Broad Head Arrow][Summon Ruby Djinn]

2x N/Rt & 1x N/Mo Sabway setup.

3x E/Any (one of which was my brother)
[Searing Flames][Glowing Gaze][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Meteor Shower][Fire Attunement]

1x Monk running a standard spot-healing WoH healing build.

In retrospect you could probably alter those Sabway builds since there are hardly any corpses, although the result of that is a N/Mo, which if you disable some skills, proceeds to spam Protetive Spirit which can be useful. If someone does die the Bone Minions and subsequent energy gain for the Necro's can help out a alot (although a Blood Ritual necro on the back line might be more helpful).

Interestingly even with 16 in Marksmanship Broad Head Arrow didn't seem to cover him permanently and then he'd spike the party, Pain Inverter at that point would be rather helpful

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

walked through this area with EASE the other day, i was FoC our tank was a necro with SV (dont ask) we had a nuker a healer a BHA and something i cant remeber, the whole area was a doddle.

Unixx_Acura

Unixx_Acura

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2008

Arkansas

Heros Honor

W/N

woo hoo my first post , hey sorry to keep this thing alive but becuase of this thread I was able to do this with just H/H just wanted to try it out real quick

War(me) - grenths balance, also had plague touch for defeaning roar
N/mo - prot spirit, heal party WOH
R/me - with Broad head arrow and winter
N/me - Spoil victor, spinal shivers
claude, healer, mage and dunham

it was quite rough 4 team wipeouts, used a powerstone, just make sure to keep the party out of aggro, after taking out his fellow buddies its a while to kill him but not a problem, he kept getting interupted

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The Guna

The Guna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2007

Portugal

Spirits of Courage [BEAR]

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wanna know how i killed the thing???

3 Eles with gliph of sacrifice and meteor shower
2 monks (1heal+1prot)
2 ursans
1 ranger with broad head arrow

nice and clean

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

OP may have found solution already but can't we all just use consumables...doesn't even have to be that Powerstone or w/e just a bunch of candycanes will do just fine...
Plague Touch is very useful to transfer the crap Rotscale gives you...