Rotscale + Hard Mode = Impossible

ideologue

ideologue

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

Who Needs Clothes

me and two guildies killed the rotscale a while back with just us three.... in normal mode of course. (and we forgot grenth balanced on the warrior and charge didn't really help against Rotscale... at all)
hardmode? hmm maybe 5 people would do?
but i don't know, my pve skills might have degenerated to nothingness after two months of pvping/inactivity.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

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Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

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How about a bonded dervish with Vow of Silence as tank?

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
How about a bonded dervish with Vow of Silence as tank? Would die to degen from Incendiary. VoS prevents spells cast on you, including those of yourself and those of your allies, so there's only a small window (1/4 second) when VoS is off and needs to be reapplied to get healed, unless you want to keep it open and probably get slammed by spells.

Corinthian

Corinthian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

3 choking gas rangers + 5 touch rangers = win

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SirJackassIII
Would die to degen from Incendiary. VoS prevents spells cast on you, including those of yourself and those of your allies, so there's only a small window (1/4 second) when VoS is off and needs to be reapplied to get healed, unless you want to keep it open and probably get slammed by spells. He could be still healed by signets, shouts/chants/echoes, rt group heals, LOD or HP ....

keeping VOS tank up is matter of correct teambuild and can be part of soemthing like this:

D/W tank with tactics investment (shields up, heal sig, WYS) and Reap Impurities.

P/X - 3x attack skill + sig of synergy/anthem of flame/finale of retoration/they are on fire. (9 in resto will do)

Rt - chaneleer + two channeling spirits + feast of souls

Mo - LOD + Sig of Rejuv + SIG of Devotion added to your normal healer build.

Bonder

2x SF ele

R/W with flurry, BHA, Apply poison, etc ...

Even with VOS, this tank can be moderatelly easy to keep up.

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

Yey Wastrol's Worry time! On hardmode it lasts even shorter? Instant 60+ damage mabye throw in some Echo/Arcane Echo and of course energy management would be required.

Skuld

Skuld

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

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Grenth's balance ftw?

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

the ideas in this thread are getting kind of funny.

by the way, you can easily lure most of the guards around him or kill them from range, if not just charge in and run back after each kill.

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Spirit Bond does not work on reducing Shadow Damage.
??? Spirit Bond does not reduce any damage, lol. it heals you if you take more than 60 damage. OO

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3 choking gas rangers + 5 touch rangers = win i assume you're going to die before reaching him though.

icymanipulator

icymanipulator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Winter + Spinal Shivers...no More FoC which is his most devastating single skill and he will spam the hell out of it.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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spinal shiver=good
ANY enchants= baaaaad

When I kill him in normal mode, we usually have a tank, then the nukers do the rest.

TiNkLeR

TiNkLeR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
lmao, I know an even funnier build:

W/X - tanking, 0 dmg (has to be VERY good at aggroing)
E/Mo - SF Ele
E/Mo - SF Ele
E/Mo - SF Ele
E/Mo - SF Ele
E/Mo - SF Ele
Monk
Monk

GAME OVER. Just aggro, and explode stuff. It worked, thanks.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TiNkLeR
It worked, thanks. No problem

Basically, if people can run that in HA and GvG, and rip teams apart (who have smart healers, smart players etc), then in PvE, it'd be even easier, as things don't react like humans do. So a lot of the gimmicky HA/GvG builds would probably tear apart Rotscale with a few changes.

Skyy High

Skyy High

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Join Date: May 2006

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You know what I find funny? People acting like they're elite PvE players when they don't even know how prot spirit and spirit bond work.

Also, I wasn't aware that a war's extra armor would be helpful against degen, shadow damage, and life steal, but hey, what do I know.

teenchi

teenchi

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Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

Try
3 rangers with broadhead arrow and have them time it so he's constantly dazed.
1 nuker
4 monks, 1 heal, 1 prot and 2 smiters

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

Flames, personal insults, and posts that fail to contribute to the intent of the thread have been removed.
There are a lot of people that have difficulty with Rotscale in hard mode, and it would be nice to have a thread where ideas/builds that work are being discussed in a positive light.

Try to keep on track, please?

Lucifer PVP

Lucifer PVP

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Guild group did it with two heros, just have patience and ya bunching up isn't the best idea

fenix

fenix

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For the record, <3 Caleb

Regarding Rotscale:

Basicallly, you don't want to over-think it. You just want a couple skills to shut him down, a couple skills to protect yourself, and then damage. You also have to work in a skills to fight the way there. Just look at the wiki, and make a list of stuff that you have to counter, and see what skills you'll need to do it.

Lord Natural

Lord Natural

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

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o.O what's all the fuss in this thread about? It's one caster, with no evades, and no monk support.

1. Kill his guards without agroing him.
2. Cast spellbreaker on a BHA ranger or headbutt+plague touch warrior.
3. Have them run in and daze him.
4. Kill Rotscale

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
I would dump the mesmers, what were they running?Shutdown? don't think its worth it, I think the normal rotscale group should work with some adjustments,but i really don't know, i tried it too a few days ago , just for fun, we simply got owned :|
ohh come on!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiki
Rotscale uses its skills with a halved casting time and recharge, approximately double the power and like all Tyria bosses, hexes and conditions cast on it only last one half of their normal duration. can you say WW spam?
and something insanely sweet are Larceny/Thievery. we ran this on the all-mesmer trips and boy was the boy in some pain!

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

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Join Date: Jun 2005

California

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Just wondering, could you possibly bring in a mesmer and interrupt half his skills thus making it easier to attack him?

Cowboy Nastyman

Cowboy Nastyman

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Me/Mo

here is how my guildies and i did it:

W/E Ob FLesh Tank
W/N with Grenths Balance
A/N with Grenth Balance (me)
hero bonder with all the prot bonds
a monk with some prot spells and SOJ
a ranger with symbiosis and broadheadarrow with apply
and an SV necro hero

basically war tanks the damage with other out of range of rotscale and his buddies with soj on him all of his minions will die ina few cycles. once he is alone the war and assassin buff health as high as possible with enchants cupcakes and symbiosis and sac life to cast grenths balance, hitting for around 1k damage per balance. while this happens the ranger hits him with broadhead and poison from range witha flatbow. rotscale has easily 100k life or more from what we saw as 1k damage was barely a sliver of his health so even with this method takign himdown took quite a while

a pic of our successful kill http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4980/gw013bs0.jpg

savage vapor 33

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

How bout the same ol same ol DoA group...

1 Bonded Tank
4 SF
2 monks - Bonder/Healer
1 Necro - BIP/QZ

Just throwing it out there.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by savage vapor 33
How bout the same ol same ol DoA group...

1 Bonded Tank
4 SF
2 monks - Bonder/Healer
1 Necro - BIP/QZ

Just throwing it out there. Aw, but that's easy...

It's what my old guild used, anyways. We were usually able to kill him in under 10 minutes.

Hello Kitty

Hello Kitty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Doesn't echo Diversion work against him? He's not technically a boss right?

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

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Join Date: Jun 2005

California

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hello Kitty
He's not technically a boss right? nope.

what level is he in hm? 32?

might give this a shot today if i can find people.

Xeno The Fallen

Xeno The Fallen

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Mo

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Just to let everyone here that has not tryed to kill Rotscale in hard mode. He is not alone! So some of these suggestions are useless...

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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Full group of MM's and bomb him. All those novas should easy kill him i reckon.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

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Join Date: Jun 2005

California

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W/Mo

I wonder

4 SF Nukers
2 Tanks
1 Power Block Mesmer
1 Trapper

= Dead Rotscale?

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
Full group of MM's and bomb him. All those novas should easy kill him i reckon. Where to get minions?

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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WE DID IT! WOOOHOOO

Headbutt + Plague Touch
I had almost no energy the whole time, so I barely plague touched back Deafening Roar. We forced him into a corner and I had him aggroed, heroes weren't flagged once I had whole aggro. Still took about 10 minutes of hacking and setting on fire and punching holes with arrows and interrupting and interrupting and interrupting.

Thanks Drop of Fear mainly, Mouse at Large for the SV suggestion XD, and everyone else.

Finally, thanks Xeno The Fallen for being my guildy and having heroes.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Congrats. Who got the bow, or did you rezone/repeat til everyone got one?

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

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We were vanquishing. No one got the bow. o.O We didn't really want it either.

It was the Plague Touch suggestion that saved our asses, because one ranger can't Broadhead Rot very well.

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

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and yet another player finally finds out that making a topic about how hard something is, isn't the answer. but yet, trying new skills, openning the mind, and actually PLAYING the game is the key to success....

who would have thought...

another happy ending... now please no more stupid topics..

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by floppinghog
and yet another player finally finds out that making a topic about how hard something is, isn't the answer. but yet, trying new skills, openning the mind, and actually PLAYING the game is the key to success....

who would have thought...

another happy ending... now please no more stupid topics.. Maybe she got the Plague Touch idea from Drop of Fear...?

And hey, they asked for help, we answered. What's wrong with that? I am suprised it went to four pages, though...

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

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Join Date: Sep 2006

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Yeah, Drop of Fear found the secret.

moko

moko

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Join Date: May 2006

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It's what my old guild used, anyways. We were usually able to kill him in under 10 minutes. wow, it's about 2-4 minutes with spoil victor. lol.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

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I use my 'judo chop!' and he die in 1 minuto!

VinnyRidira

VinnyRidira

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Join Date: Feb 2007

Ridirian Guides

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I guess it is time to try kill Rotscale in Hardmode, we took weeks to get it right in normal mode. The reward is just doing it I suppose.

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

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A good Ritualist I would say.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

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um, blackout?