May 24th Update has arrived

Celestial_Kitsune

Celestial_Kitsune

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

I know why they added a chest to the Urgoz and the Deep! This blacksmith was really mad...

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fabiola
All existing lower-level armor pieces from these campaigns now support insignias but have had their inherent bonuses removed.
Numerous armor sets have been renamed to avoid redundancy with insignia names.
So my mule full of bloodstained shing jea boots didn't work - those clever devils, they think of everything

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Well, this update, while convenient from the armour collector's point of view (I myself am now considering getting the 15k Knights Armor), however, this is just going to further cripple the already wounded economy.

With large numbers of people going and buying insignias (the only way to improve your armour now), the price of many of them will go up. This price increase will then eat further into the already lowering amount of money that most people now have.

In order to compensate, they are going to have to increase the drop rate of many insignias (Bloodstained and Radiant for example) so that the prices don't rise higher than the cost of the armour (basic max now costs 1k + materials per piece).

EDIT: Bah, just got some clarification

InfernalSuffering

InfernalSuffering

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Inadequately Equipped [GeAr]

Horrible update on the part of reward points. Not to mention the couple of skins I unlocked looked like absolute garbage but the fact that once the character is deleted you cant recreate them and even if you keep the character then you cant change the mods you had when you upgraded it.

noocoo

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

I should go re-craft my 15k glad armor now.......

Also, does anyone have the pic that shows the pvp reward item? I cannot see them in NPC.


BTW, nice update

Jamison0071

Jamison0071

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Morporkian Mercenaries

N/Me

Quote:
I should go re-craft my 15k glad armor now.......
Hmm..why? All existing armors got the inscribable update too as far as I'm aware.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Anet did VERY good with the rewards!!! People, you aren't going to get every cool skin for every profession in the game. Pick your favorite profession, spend a character slot to save him permanently, and bam, you can earn a ton of leet skins on that character. Elite skins aren't meant to be unlocked, but earned. If you have a 15^50 +30 HP Vampiric Fellblade, why should you get a 15^50 +30 HP Zealous one as well? Also, this prevents the UAX problem with balthazar faction from ever showing up... you CAN'T unlock everything, you can always upgrade another weapon so you get it in different varieties. I am glad that they aren't just letting you unlock a fellblade for your warrior then make one for every character you ever play as ever again. And since PvP characters can roll new builds, armor sets, weapon sets, WHATEVER they ever could possibly need, there is NO excuse for saying "omg pvp characters are meant to be deleted and rerolled" because that is a thing of the past (if you want cool skins at least). Good work Anet for not screwing up this change! To people not grateful that Anet offers them new rewards... QQ more!

HOWEVER... 50 unlocks to reach the next tier is harsh. That takes 5,000 reward points to reach the next armor tier. Just too much IMO. 20 or so would be more appropriate.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snype
What the hell were they thinking?
That the community would be happy that they can now earn every single skin in the game by just playing PvP? Nah, of course not. Anet could mail us all checks for 50 dollars and you'd find whiners.

Chestnut

Chestnut

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Sweet! So wait, my temp PvP char .. that I use to pvp.. I can now get what, FoW armor on him? and like a Zodiac sword and make him look like a pve warrior?

I erase my pvp char like 3 times a day lol.. why the hell do I care what he/she looks like while pvping? So now I can spend points and have a larger e-peen in PvP from what I look like? Seriously If I want e-peen in pvp Ill just play a pve char in pvp. lol.. upgradeing my pvp with "Nicer "looking" " stuff its retarted..

lol back to buying Japan mini pets, and re-selling them to people who ebay gold!

I love a.net.. allways good for a laugh.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Labyrinthine, huh? Who wants to bet other classes will be getting sets like this too?

lady0sheep

lady0sheep

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oxford, UK

KoD

Mo/

for those interested:





*grin*

Creeping Carl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

The PVP rewards being temporary and only for that one PVP character who unlocked it is just plain stupid. What's the point?

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

A large, and generally pretty good update. I know that a lot of people were hoping to see insignia-able armor in chapters 1 & 2.

Still, I can't help but being monumentally disappointed that soul reaping remains broken.

Snype

Snype

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

.:Pro Guildhopper:.

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
That the community would be happy that they can now earn every single skin in the game by just playing PvP? Nah, of course not. Anet could mail us all checks for 50 dollars and you'd find whiners.
Your missing the point. I'll put it into PvE terms so you can understand. Say you buy your tormented shield, but as soon as you go and buy another shield, anet deletes it. Thats what the reward system does.

Get it?

noocoo

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamison0071
Hmm..why? All existing armors got the inscribable update too as far as I'm aware.
Because....


I salvaged my old one since the storage was not enough for me.

xenogears77

xenogears77

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

The Older Gamers

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fabiola
There was also a stealth nerf to Urgoz's Warren Spirit Ranger Suicide Run. No experience or drops anymore.
This sucked out some new-found fun for me. Here I thought I would be able to get Zodiac weapons for my toons and heroes, but not any more.

And the fact that they didn't even mention it on the official notes (it's found on the wiki notes) really makes it bad. It's like ANet was trying to stab us in the back, hoping we wouldn't notice it. At least tell us you're doing it, instead of being all sneaky about it. You're taking away some fun for me and losing my trust and faith in you at the same time, ANet. And I'm sure I'm not the only one upset by it.

Creeping Carl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
That the community would be happy that they can now earn every single skin in the game by just playing PvP? Nah, of course not. Anet could mail us all checks for 50 dollars and you'd find whiners.
And there would be whiners like you who complain that others aren't earning their 50 dollars.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Yeah too bad about the solo urgoz thing, i hardly knew it but i'm happy about the insignia being available on the proph and factions armor.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snype
Your missing the point. I'll put it into PvE terms so you can understand. Say you buy your tormented shield, but as soon as you go and buy another shield, anet deletes it. Thats what the reward system does.

Get it?
Oh so because I have intelligence and I am not a whiner, I am a PvEer? lol

Dude. Your analogy makes no sense. YOUR SHIELD ISN'T GOING TO BE DELETED! You can make AS MANY AS YOU WANT! You have inventory, you have a xunlai agent. Go make a ton of shields and stuff. Just because you insist on deleting your character every day as many times as you can does not mean Anet is to blame. Stop deleting and you are good to go... lol.

Your analogy is more like "Say you buy your tormented shield, leave it on your character, delete it, then get pissed off at Anet because of it." THAT is what the reward system does. Cry more?

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Well, you can re-create the mods on your upgraded weapon, but you only get them one weapon at a time, and most egregiously, they delete with your character. So yeah, just about completely pointless, for many its easier to PvE grind for items they want stuck on an inflexible character slot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
stuff
The entire point of a PvP character is you can delete them, so you have 10 primaries in one slot on a whim. People who wanted to have their slot tied down to one profession already made them PvE characters anyway for PvE skins.

Xunlai is worthless because all PvP items are automatically customized, you therefore can't dump them. (And you couldn't use them competitively if they *werent* customized anyway...)

ThunderStruck

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

I'm sorry to hear about the PvP rewards point issue...


but as I'm not much of a PvPer, this update ROCKS!

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
So yeah, just about completely pointless, for many its easier to PvE grind for items they want stuck on an inflexible character slot.
And? You can go make a PvE character and grind... or you can play your PvP character and have fun. Oh noes! Have fun playing GW? But what if my e-peen isn't enlarged?

Tarus From Taros

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

This is a really nice update all around I think. It was one that was definitly needed. GJ Anet!

apocalypse_xx

apocalypse_xx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/Me

I think this update is awesome in almost every aspect...The pvp rewards are perfect, having to recreate the perfect skin I think is fair enough since in reality it is pretty trivial anyways. As for the Urgoz nerf, again perfect, that run was far too easy which made it very "bot-able", and THANK YOU for finally fixing my old FoW sets of armor!!!!!!

PS~The Urgoz nerf also just made the Req 9 Zodiac sword energy+5 that I bought today worth a whole lot more

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Nice update if they can get it right.My acct 1 my Warrior doesn't have 15K Gladiator Radiant armour as well as my Monks esthetics's tats.Then there is my Ranger who does not have full Druids armour only the 15K except the boots aren't Radiant.
Acct2 It seems everything is fine except my other Monks tats are the same are my main on acct1.I have submitted a support ticket hopefully they better fix it.

drekmonger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

A/E

The wiki integration is FANTASTIC. Now when a newer player asks a question, he can be directed to look it up from the wiki directly in the interface. I LOVE IT.

The PvP tournament rewards are cool. Dress up doll ftw.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

A pretty good update totally marred by the lack of a fix for soul reaping. I hate to be disappointed with such a nice update, but I am.

xBakox

xBakox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

[JF] Just Friends, [NOT] Nomads of Turmoil

W00t! Now time to start thinking about some "new" Tyrian armor. At least the Knights 15k helm.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
Nice job Anet!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coridan
sweeeett well worth the wait for an update...Good Job Anet...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acehigh
This is a wicked update.Good job Anet!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros
This is a really nice update all around I think. It was one that was definitly needed. GJ Anet!
Thanks. It's been a while in the making -- glad to hear your votes of support.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fabiola
There was also a stealth nerf to Urgoz's Warren Spirit Ranger Suicide Run. No experience or drops anymore.
That wasn't a "farm" and that wasn't a "run." That was pretty much an exploit, and yes, it's been closed. You can get the full update notes here. (We have asked the Web Team to post up the missing line, because we have no intention of engaging in any "stealth updates" but that one was added later and didn't make the list. We hope to have it in place as soon as we can reach someone.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TideSwayer
Build template sending has been bugged with this update. It doesn't give you a clickable-link anymore.
Relayed to QA, and thank you.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Great update, Anet! Now I can continue to buy armor based solely on looks, and have the functionality, as well!


Now seriously, trade improvements... I'm not joking.

InfernalSuffering

InfernalSuffering

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Inadequately Equipped [GeAr]

I like how gaile didnt even acknowledge the fact that reward skins arent "unlocked" as many people thought but "created" this reduces their value for me from great to none. This makes me think this was not a mistake but by design.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
And? You can go make a PvE character and grind... or you can play your PvP character and have fun.
Hero Battles are also PvE grind, just a different kind. Not one that will pan out unfortunately.

Personally, I just wanted a sword that doesn't look like a crappy dagger on my pvp chars. The way its been done though, only the elite can afford to throw away reward points like this, which basically does make it an e-peen thing.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

at first i thought not unlocking pvp skins was a bad idea...but the more i think about it...the more it evens the playing field between pvp and pve...atleast as far as epreen goes....just because i buy 15k armor on a pve warrior it doesn't unlock it for the rest of my accounts.....so i think its good that it doesn't unlock it. And once i customize a weapon for a pve player i can't reroll and create a new one for a different character....if we as pvp players want that ability its still there....the original pvp weapons and such...if you want the "looks" then there are some draw backs....so in other words i see alot of QQ going on and i think its sorta funny.

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

I say: yay, update! Also, yay for a new set of monk armor! Well, not "yay" for the infusion run, but I love the new stuff none the less.

countesscorpula

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Gwen Is [EVIL]

N/

A bit of a screw up with the update...

Hopping Vampires and Thought Stealers are the only things that drop Vampiric Fangs.

Vampiric Fangs are the items collected by Juan Stumi in HzH.

Hopping Vamps and thought stealers no longer drop ANYTHING.

So we have a useless collector in HzH. Good game, A-Net. Way to think things through once again. SO much for getting cheap collector items instead of "vanity" items.

InfernalSuffering

InfernalSuffering

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Inadequately Equipped [GeAr]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coridan
at first i thought not unlocking pvp skins was a bad idea...but the more i think about it...the more it evens the playing field between pvp and pve...atleast as far as epreen goes....just because i buy 15k armor on a pve warrior it doesn't unlock it for the rest of my accounts.....so i think its good that it doesn't unlock it. And once i customize a weapon for a pve player i can't reroll and create a new one for a different character....if we as pvp players want that ability its still there....the original pvp weapons and such...if you want the "looks" then there are some draw backs....so in other words i see alot of QQ going on and i think its sorta funny.
You are missing the main point that pvp characters were meant to be a quick way to get a lvl 20 character without having to lvl it throughout pve. This directly works against it making it basically a pve looking character who cant pve.

Plushie Penguin

Plushie Penguin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

That plushie penguin on a shelf in your bed room

Rt/E

if only the good armor sigs weren't so overpriced right now...

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

Does anyone know what a "Golden Flame of Balthazar" does? I have 25 reward points and I'm kinda uneasy about blowing them all at once. One costs 15.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by InfernalSuffering
You are missing the main point that pvp characters were meant to be a quick way to get a lvl 20 character without having to lvl it throughout pve. This directly works against it making it basically a pve looking character who cant pve.
They are still quick to get to level 20...you can still create as many different types of weapons/amor/shields you want. The only difference is you can't necessarily have the LOOK you want...without some sort of sacrifice....welcome to how pve player feel..and for the record i have 2 slots for pvp and 3 for pve...and 1 mule...so i am not just speaking as a pvp or pve player but as both...i personally don't care what my pvp characters look like...at the root ....its about functionality....not looks...where as pve is more about the looks...and functionality is secondary :P

Snype

Snype

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

.:Pro Guildhopper:.

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
Oh so because I have intelligence and I am not a whiner, I am a PvEer? lol

Dude. Your analogy makes no sense. YOUR SHIELD ISN'T GOING TO BE DELETED! You can make AS MANY AS YOU WANT! You have inventory, you have a xunlai agent. Go make a ton of shields and stuff. Just because you insist on deleting your character every day as many times as you can does not mean Anet is to blame. Stop deleting and you are good to go... lol.

Your analogy is more like "Say you buy your tormented shield, leave it on your character, delete it, then get pissed off at Anet because of it." THAT is what the reward system does. Cry more?
The two bolded statements dont fit together. Please read other posts and understand how the reward system actually works before defending it please.