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Healers Wisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Anaheim, CA

BoMB

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04 Jun 2007 at 19:45 - 121

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[*]Soul Reaping: Gaile said that there will be updates (plural) to the Soul Reaping mechanic; atleast "two changes," apparently. How can there be two changes? You fix it, or you don't. If ArenaNet's solution is to simply remove SR Energy gain from Spirits, which players have been saying, I'll simply laugh.

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Ok here are two possible changes, the first will be the expected change... No energy for spirits. Big surprise. I don't see many hard core necro fans complaining too much about that, I know I wont.

The secound change will be to remove the timer and limit energy gain but make it per death, I hope. I proposed the idea of making your soul reaping skill represent a % of your total energy and that is what you gain per death. For a typical Necro it is somewhere around 1/2 the gain of the prenerf. My calculation in PVE show a slight increase in energy but not like it was.

Biggest thing for me about the changes Anet has made is the way this community complains about it. We complain something is too strong/weak, anet changes it. The the ranting starts Now its too weak/strong. We really can't have it both ways. I think this company does a good job trying, no its not perfect, but go play other games where you get no supprt and no changes. The we could all do the same thing s and the game becomes boring. Personally I like the changes, it breaks me out of my box and allows me to revist places and play them differently and keep the game challenging or interesting. If they didn't change things we would all be 55 M/W just like the bots

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

04 Jun 2007 at 23:53 - 122

Money will be removed from the game completley, as will any drops, merchants and traders will be removed. Titles will be the new currencey. Bigger titles=better weaps/armor.

But...seriosly i see more paragon nerfs (defensive anthem will most likley be nerfed sadley

) And buffs to a few stupid skills nobody uses and never will

.

apologies if this is a double post ^^

drakun01

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

05 Jun 2007 at 01:50 - 123

You never know...Imagine A.Net buffing Extend Enchantments so that it can be maintained without the enchantment loss. Fun stuff.
Sometimes, when A.Net buffs something, they create a new farming style, SV comes to mind. It was useless, then they buffed it, now it is a farmer's staple. Maybe this time they will buff some random smiting skill, and it will become THE farming skill to which everyone turns to.
Although, in this skill rebalance, I would like to see some useless elites buffed. Ray of Judgement? Peace and Harmony? Ranger Spirits? Scavenger's Focus? They all desperately need a buff.
Also, if they do make MR and SFA elite, I epxpect them to be buffed, because otherwise they will be useless. Actually, no one will use SFA, because Stoneflesh is much worse then Obsidian Flesh.
MR will probably be moved to mysticism, which means that I won't use it, because I can't tear myself away from the sweet skills in Earth.

And yeah, I've got all the whine templates prepped and ready for the upcoming farming nerfs.
I HATE ANERF BECAUSE THEY DESTROYED X[INSERT 1337 SKILL NAME HERE]X! IT WAS MY LIFE! i7 \/\/45 1227 54uc3, n0\/\/ i7 i5 7r45h! WAAAAAAH!
/ragequit =P

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

05 Jun 2007 at 01:55 - 124

why do i think this is going to be more of a 'mid-july' update?

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

05 Jun 2007 at 03:44 - 125

theres actually a large population that are fed up with things and don't know about fan forums, and leave because of it. people that are pissed off at something the dev team did, and feel they have no way of suggesting a change other than spamming Kamadan Int1 when Gaile is on. People that feel the game has gone off course, and there is no way they can bring it back, so they move to another game.

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

05 Jun 2007 at 06:36 - 126

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Mesmer Fixes

Mesmers are fine, mobs in PvE need to be fixed. What mesmer does simply isn't useful in PvE and it's not a problem with the class, because mesmers do their thing just fine. Sure, there's a recovery/dom build that spams punishing hexes and owns in HM, but that's a pretty narrow niche a mesmer can play.

Of course, if anet hasn't improved AI or skill bars with HM, there's about zero chance they'll do it now.

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Soul Reaping

Zero energy from spirits and minions you do not control + possibly 1/2 energy from minions, keeping the adjusted minion costs. But wait, that would be a sensible thing to do...

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Sunspear PvE Only Skills

This is the only point of the four you listed anet might be able to not f*** up. They probably will, though.

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Skill Balance

Some good comedy bound to happen here. Don't miss it folks. Head over to GWO to see the amazing throngs of noobs whining how PvP players ruined their game (once again).

My predictions

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

05 Jun 2007 at 06:44 - 127

Boy, I remember the days when people complained after the updates. Ahh well, despite my not liking some changes, I still like changes overall. I'm looking very forward to any and all updates! Bring it on, Anet!

Toll Booth Willie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

tn, usa

E/Mo

05 Jun 2007 at 07:31 - 128

I think there is a good portion like me and my friends. We know about the fan forums (rarely post, just read). We read all the complaining with every patch. There are literally thousands of posts telling anet what we hate or want fixed, one more post wouldn't matter. The loot scaling was the end for us so we just left and having fun on another game. I still come back every week or 2 to see if any updates come. If there was a major game overhaul I would be back but chances are anet will contiue to nerf with every update just like they did during the 2 years prior.

(i think anet gets suggestions on how to "improve" the game from the SWG team

)

justadude

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/Mo

05 Jun 2007 at 12:24 - 129

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Originally Posted by Toll Booth Willie

(i think anet gets suggestions on how to "improve" the game from the SWG team

)

That's some kind of harsh

Sad, but true, they really ruined that game.

I would still be playing the game if not for the NGE. Which, btw, made it into a bad copy of Guild Wars.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

05 Jun 2007 at 16:08 - 130

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Originally Posted by Alleji

Mesmers are fine, mobs in PvE need to be fixed. What mesmer does simply isn't useful in PvE and it's not a problem with the class, because mesmers do their thing just fine. Sure, there's a recovery/dom build that spams punishing hexes and owns in HM, but that's a pretty narrow niche a mesmer can play.

Yeah this is pretty much the reason why I'm worried (also the reason why I hate the way they make PvE "challenging). I wonder what they're going to do to "fix" them???

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Originally Posted by Alleji

Of course, if anet hasn't improved AI or skill bars with HM, there's about zero chance they'll do it now.

That's what I was hoping for with HM, but it's pretty much exactly the thing everyone didn't want. That's for another thread, however.

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

05 Jun 2007 at 16:32 - 131

Well, all I have to say is they better get in a GOOD skill BALANCE (READ: not nerfing skills to the point of uselessness, actually BALANCING them, including underpowered ones). Seriously, its been almost 2 months since the last even small (4 or so skills) skillbalance by my count. They need to have a MAJOR one. They could also fix HA, but that arena is so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up now that it's probably beyond the point of no return, just balance skills and at least PvP in general will be better.

drakun01

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

05 Jun 2007 at 23:55 - 132

A thought regarding the mesmer update: I always feel sorry for dogs when they get 'fixed'.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

06 Jun 2007 at 00:09 - 133

Sure that we'll get a Mid-Une "Super-Update"?

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

06 Jun 2007 at 06:25 - 134

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

no no, it would be avatar of Togo, for 70 seconds you lose all your hair and become useless.

Nonono, it'll be

Avatar Of Gaile Gray;
For 70 seconds you become the avatar of gaile gray and have 100% chance of blocking questions...I mean attacks *cough* Whenever you are the target of a hostile spell, the person using it is forced to conga behind you for 20....40 seconds, If you hit a wall this effect ends.

Luv ya Gaile

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

06 Jun 2007 at 06:32 - 135

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Originally Posted by artay

Nonono, it'll be

Avatar Of Gaile Gray;
For 70 seconds you become the avatar of gaile gray and have 100% chance of blocking questions...I mean attacks *cough* Whenever you are the target of a hostile spell, the person using it is forced to conga behind you for 20....40 seconds, If you hit a wall this effect ends.

Luv ya Gaile

You mean EVADE?

Oh, right.....it got removed. Haha.

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

06 Jun 2007 at 06:50 - 136

>.< Don't hate me!

PSP>Anet

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

06 Jun 2007 at 07:48 - 137

I doubt this update is coming in very soon. In fact I do believe there is another bug coming down the pike that is going to hit the team any minute now. I’ll just wait out the response “we are still working on it, but it’s coming in soon.”

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

06 Jun 2007 at 08:23 - 138

Well done Artay, that made my day.

That needs to be included in GWEN just for the sheer awesomeness of it, capped off a last boss in a dungeon anyone?

I think Gaile will love it

(this is a happy post)

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

06 Jun 2007 at 14:19 - 139

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Originally Posted by artay

>.< Don't hate me!

PSP>Anet

fail.

Avatars arent red.

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill]

;P

klrk

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Space Rangers

W/

06 Jun 2007 at 16:10 - 140

*sigh* i bet the updates this time will dissapoint some of us
*its just my summary from all the updates i got this year, not complaining but kinda feel lazy (too tired of) making /inventing any new builds .
i'm a necro player most the time and nerfing sr more or modified it badly will surely sicken me (the last sr nerf aint bad , not much damage it makes)

dts720666

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/Me

06 Jun 2007 at 16:17 - 141

I know exactly what they are going to do with the update.

Right about one week from today (if I stay on schedule) my 55 monk will be ready for solo farming in HM. The day I finally am able to solo farm HM will be the day the update comes out, and they nerf 55 monk solo farming.

LOL.

I know ANet prefers people play in groups, but only get to play about 45 minutes to an hour per day, and it generally takes that long to get a PUG together. I HATE wasting my precious playing time getting a group together.

I was about to quit GW. Then I decided to try solo farming, and have never had as much fun in any game I have ever played.

I really, really hope they don't do anything to hinder 55 monk solo farming. If they do, that will completely destroy the game for me.

*Crossing my fingers* that I get to keep my 55 monk.

klrk

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Space Rangers

W/

06 Jun 2007 at 18:10 - 142

*sigh* anet doesnt knows there bunch of stubborn headed noobs outside who insist using joke builds
and sometimes one lies to you or juz leech from the group
and telling the truth , i've trying to group mission with real players few days ago and i end up failing my mission non stop in 3 days ( i was patient do i )
its better to play alone sometimes
and i miss old times when all players who are willing to learn and listen . now ? all noobs acting like they're pro , i got empty team 6/10 i get in RA ( coz they mostly gone because of ... bad combination )
all ruined now ... and i'm tired

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

06 Jun 2007 at 21:18 - 143

More nerf or more balance this time around. Only time will tell!

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

06 Jun 2007 at 21:35 - 144

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

fail.

Avatars arent red.

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill]

;P

Gaile is no normal avatar :P

For the mid june update? I hope they give smiting prayers some hair on its chest.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

06 Jun 2007 at 22:13 - 145

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Originally Posted by artay

For the mid june update? I hope they give smiting prayers some hair on its chest.

Ritspike is the reason why smiting prayers can never be good.
You did see what happened to SoMW yes?
Maybe skills like judge's insight are salvageable...

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

06 Jun 2007 at 22:20 - 146

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Originally Posted by dts720666

I really, really hope they don't do anything to hinder 55 monk solo farming. If they do, that will completely destroy the game for me.

*Crossing my fingers* that I get to keep my 55 monk.

Sure... if by hinder you mean "Stop making it so easy a freaking monkey could do it". I speak here of course of the Mystic Regen version.

Aye, they won't ever buff anything to intentional turn PvP into a fight with 8 Monks or Ritualist healers/protectors with a little spike potential. Nobody wants to waste there time fighting that.

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

06 Jun 2007 at 22:28 - 147

IF we are going to have some fun poking at the idea of what might be changed:
some of the new PVE only skills(only in fun/jest)

Ranger skill:
Nerf Arrows. 15e 1c 10r
Player hit by arrows have skills in their skill bar alter to useless levels for (3..to..5) months. Nerf arrow has 5% chance of failure if marksmanship level is 7 or less.

Warrior:
Nerf Hammer/Axe/Sword
Adre 8, 5r
Player hit by attack has one primary attribute line altered to level 1. Benefits from profession specific attribute line are altered to not work as normal for (2.to..whenever) months.

Mesmer/Monk/Ele/Necro
Magic (Nerf) Missles
10e 2c 1r
Spam skill to destroy enemies attacks by making them useless. 25% attack bonus against Paragons.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

07 Jun 2007 at 00:36 - 148

I am posting only to officially refute about every word of the original post. I'm not going to take the time to argue with the negative spin, the intentional twists, the blatant attempts at manipulation, and the generally venal opinions expressed herein. I'm just telling you that you should not be influenced by one person's opinion, or by the tone or the intentions of the OP.

And that's truly all I have to say, or will say, in this thread.

YornStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

Bad Net Fubar [bad]

W/

07 Jun 2007 at 00:43 - 149

lol

hello gaile

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

07 Jun 2007 at 00:44 - 150

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I am posting only to officially refute about every word of the original post. I'm not going to take the time to argue with the negative spin, the intentional twists, the blatant attempts at manipulation, and the generally venal opinions expressed herein. I'm just telling you that you should not be influenced by one person's opinion, or by the tone or the intentions of the OP.

And that's truly all I have to say, or will say, in this thread.

Yeah!It's all LIES AND PROPAGANDA!

But really,this post made me roffle my waffle with some all natural lmao syrup.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

07 Jun 2007 at 01:48 - 151

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I am posting only to officially refute about every word of the original post. I'm not going to take the time to argue with the negative spin, the intentional twists, the blatant attempts at manipulation, and the generally venal opinions expressed herein. I'm just telling you that you should not be influenced by one person's opinion, or by the tone or the intentions of the OP.

And that's truly all I have to say, or will say, in this thread.

What a nice, constructive post from Community Relations =/.

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

07 Jun 2007 at 01:50 - 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I am posting only to officially refute about every word of the original post. I'm not going to take the time to argue with the negative spin, the intentional twists, the blatant attempts at manipulation, and the generally venal opinions expressed herein. I'm just telling you that you should not be influenced by one person's opinion, or by the tone or the intentions of the OP.

And that's truly all I have to say, or will say, in this thread.

You shouldn't have even replied. Zinger is just prickly and while he's good at starting relevant conversations his demeanor tends to be rather backhanded and vaguely offensive. By replying you only fed the flames and the trolls. This thread started off good but too many negative responses(mine included) have degraded it into a ANet bashing fest. Its the main reason I haven't posted again until now. With so many unfavorable updates in the past few months can you really blame people for being pessimistic about the upcoming "improvements" and "adjustments"?

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

07 Jun 2007 at 01:52 - 153

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I am posting only to officially refute about every word of the original post. I'm not going to take the time to argue with the negative spin, the intentional twists, the blatant attempts at manipulation, and the generally venal opinions expressed herein. I'm just telling you that you should not be influenced by one person's opinion, or by the tone or the intentions of the OP.

And that's truly all I have to say, or will say, in this thread.

Wow, you've just made the OP's day, hehe.

Edit: Oh snaps Forge Runner. Sad that this post did it...

Billiard

Doctor of Philosophy

Join Date: May 2005

Pacific Northwest

Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us

07 Jun 2007 at 02:08 - 154

Closing as there seems to be no reason to continue this line of speculation.