Where is everyone moving to?

As of late, there's been a lot of players leaving or talking about leaving on the American servers. Guild Wars has been kinda stagnant for awhile now, even with the recent release of hard mode and the ATS.

PvPers are sick of the stagnant, gimmick-heavy metagame that it apparently exactly what Anet wants. I don't think I've seen a thread in the Gladiator's Arena in a long time where people weren't mad about one broken mechanic or another. Anet seems to be trying to pick up some of the pieces with recent skill balances, but none have been big enough to really fix things, and it seems like it's already too late to revive a sick community.

PvEers are growing bored with the lack of new content (hard mode is really just a drop in the bucket) and some of the more hardcore players are mad whenever anything in the game changes (see the monstrous soul reaping thread for more QQing). However, new players are still buying the now heavily discounted prophecies and factions. The result is that most of the "experienced" players are moving on, and the new players are casually making their way through, oblivious to all the whining on the forums.

So... where's everyone going? From what I hear, PvPers are anticipating the release of Fury and Starcraft 2, hoping for a fresh, balanced game. PvE players are going everywhere. Most of my old guild left for EVE online, and WoW seems to be pulling away a lot of people.

Personally, I'm interested in the upcoming release of Fallout 3. NCsoft's own Tabula Rasa looks like an interesting action-based RPG. I've heard good things about Hellgate: London and Overlord, though I haven't checked them out myself. GW2 sounds nifty, but that's another couple years away. On the FPS scene, the sequels to Unreal and Halo are pretty popular, and the upcoming Call of Duty 4 looks pretty awesome as well.

So... where are you moving? How many people are sticking around for GWEN? How many people are anxiously awaiting GW2? if you're leaving, what would make you stick with Guild Wars?

im not going anywhere!

Its all about setting goals for yourself and then go and accomplish them! Could be titles! Could be Financially!

Just set fun and hard goals and the game keeps being interesting!

Everybody keeps whining but i dont get the point! Just take the nerfs/changes like a man and get over it! Anet decides!

In the end its all about meeting interesting polite people and having fun!

Personally i cant wait untill GWEN release and offcourse in the future GW2!
I deleted most of my characters and made 1 character where i want 25 max titles with! That will keep me busy To bad i cant transfer my 7 free char slots to other peoples account for some Cakes and beers

I might switch games if Diablo 3 would ever be made... but blizzard knowing im allready old an grey (23 now :P) when and if it will be released!

greetings Milamber Ichindar

Personally my new games list looks like this:

Starcraft 2
HalfLife 2 EP2 w/ Team Fortress 2 + Portal
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
Bioshock
Fallout 3

And I'm looking to buy a Wii eventually.

As far as MMOs go, Guild Wars was the last of the decent ones before it was ruined, so I really don't know if I'll be playing any MMOs for some time.
WoW doesn't interest me...
But I was thinking about trying "Cabal Online". :/

Anyway, see everyone later.

I ain't going anywhere, though I am buying a Wii. Guild Wars will have to share my affection with the Wii

well , a lot of my friends left gw years ago ( missed them)
and i can see lot and lot more of pro acting noobs around the game
in fact , they're infesting the community now
pvp is dead now , the most basic part of pvp -- RA's dead too
people are leaving and yelling noob team when they see they're in a bad team ( mostly they mean no monk team)
all those botters make me sick too , they're making the server heavily lag and going in/out outpost is a pain
but still i'm interested with gwen ,gonna go and see what's to play in it
but i know the devs are trying , thanks and sorry for the whining

I'll buy GW:EN when it comes out. In the meantime I'll be on the Skywall servers.

Im playing Ragnarok Online 2 beta now

I averaged between 3-4 hours a day over almost the last year on my necro which is/was a hell of a lot of playtime. Sad to say but I had enough of the non-static ever changing nerf/buff environment and complete lack of end game content so the deal is sealed for me. I won't be buying the expansion or GW2.

Starcraft 2 sounds awesome and brings back a lot of memories playing "big game hunters". For right now I've been playing games I picked up almost 7 months ago and never even installed because of my preoccupation with GW. Gives me plenty of time to play HL2:Ep1 and F.E.A.R...maybe even some CSS.

Counter Strike
World Of Warcraft
Enemy Territory & soon Quake Wars

gonna go coh/coh , l2
and monster hunter frontier
need rpgs to survive

Sometimes I play LOTRO..but and don't laugh... real life! hahaha yeah. I go on GW when I'm bored to chat, that's about it. Sometimes I spend money on new armor, but it's not really fun fun anymore. I try to have fun playing it, but it just goes away fast.

Oh, and I'm playing Doom a lot. If you want to play with me, PM me and I'll tell you the best Source Ports eva!

I am looking forward to quake wars myself. I am not really playing any games atm and just watching for changes in a few different ones including this game.

OP: I would advise your guildies not to head to EVE. The devs in that game are in some of the guilds (BoB right) and play favorites with their GM powers.


If I move to anything it'll be console games and AoC.

Guildwars and I have a hit and miss kind of thing going on. Im going to stay Loyal unless SC2 completly OWNS. but when GW2 comes out ill be one of the first to get my copy

Playing WoW atm, but only as something to do until Fury comes out.

Waiting for SC2 as well, but that won't be for a while, even assuming blizzard doesn't delay it... which they will.

As a PvE'er, I'm waiting on Hellgate: London. I'll also be picking up SOE's spy MMO The Agency as a secondary game to play occasionally so I don't burn out on HG:L. Right now I'm playing Tomb Raider: Anniversary as well as City of Villains, and still pop in now and then for GW. I'll get GW:EN all the same. Probably only take a week or two to get through like Nightfall anyway.

I tried out EVE for a while, but it quickly turned into a game where I logged on once a day to switch my skill training.

I'm buying Fallout 3 for sure, pretty much anything dealing with the fallout franchise is 50 bucks automatically out of my pocket.

Quake Wars sounds good too, I hadn't thought of that one. I really liked the first enemy territory, so I'd be surprised if it didn't turn out very well.

WoW for me is about as much fun as repeatedly clicking on a screen and watching little numbers go up can be, that is to say, not much.

I'm torn on buying GWEN, I didn't get nearly as much enjoyment out of Nightfall as I did from Prophecis and Factions, I can't help but think my 50 bucks could be better spent elsewhere. Anyone have any compelling reasons to stay with this game, or is GWEN going to be a huge hero/hench clustermess?

Yeah, I've been playing some doom as well.
Summer classes are enough to stave off the boredom of a long-in-the-tooth GW.

probably won't be playing many games for the next few years anyways since i'm getting commissioned in the navy tomorrow . ..

I'd hold off until I see more. Chances are it'll be oblivion with guns and no magic.

Pong, cause it's balanced.

Just playing a couple of hours here and there, waiting for GW:EN.

Well the loot scaling and meaningless changes (I mainly play PVE) kinda did me in for now. So i broke down and bought an Xbox 360. Now I'll be playing gears of war and the like. I will buy GWEN just to see how it all ties together. I still play GW to see how things are going every once and a while. I started 2 new toons (a Mes and a Necro) but i am to poor to finish them so they will sit and rot. Alot of my friends and guild mates made the jump to WOW for now.

Most of my friends have moved on to RL or WoW.

I'll stick around for GW:EN, but definitely not GW2. I would pick up WoW, but ... I think I'll just drop online gaming entirely for now.^^;

I believe I will be converting to conan even if it has a subscription. Hopefully its much more solo play orientated. I'll read up on it first obviously.

By the time GW2 is released, hopefully I will have found a better MMO then this inconsistent solo-unfriendly BS game.

Ive tried DDO but its too short and the gameplay is too slow. I dont think starting WoW from the start this late is going to be too good either.

IMO Izzy + Gaile need a good sacking for ruining this great game.

Congrats on your commission! Good luck & God speed to you.

As for the topic at hand, I'm still plugging away at GW. I'm not a big fan of the uneven difficulty you find in HM (full party + 6 Minions at 0 DP getting pwned by two paragons after getting through 75% or the map is BS.), but that's my only beef with what A-Net has control over (as a PvEer).

The thing that's getting me down about the game is the anti-social climate that's found way too often in the game. The game has gone from "getting a group together to go have some fun in a mission" to "getting your heros & henchies set up so you can get through this mission as fast as possible."
On top of that, you've got all the trade spam in local chat. which means holding any sort of conversation in most places where people congregate is virtually impossible. So A-Net says they're going to crack down on people who spam WTS/WTB stuff in all chat. What happens? People start whining about that. And all the whining (and I don't mean raising legitimate concerns about things) just adds fuel to the anti-social fire.

playing:
1) WoW
2) WoW
2) WoW

Looking forward to:
1) Fallout 3
2) Fallout 3
3) Fallout 3

I'm waiting to play the game again, so I know I will stick around for a few months with 3 characters, then my friend says he will allow me to try out his account (Has all three Campaigns with three open slots, I wanna try NF.) But otherwise, I would like to try out Unreal 2k4 (I'm behind the times :P), CNC3 or BF2142.

Looking forward to fallout 3 as well, even though I havnt played the first two. I hope it has more lastabillity then oblivion did. I played baldurs gate for 2 or 3 years, morrowind for 2 years, I need some good old solo RPG's, not the shit thats GW.

Counterstrike for my PvP action (a real balanced game)

Replaying Morrowind for my PvE action since my PvP and PvE Guild imploded from nerfs past.

I still farm for about an hour a day every other day just to build up some income for GW:EN but if things continue to get nerfed again again and again like armor stacking I'll look for something else like LoTR Online.

ALSO: StarCraft with my Son

I've been playing Oblivion and Tomb Raider a lot lately. and I'm waiting for the release of Crysis and Assassin's Creed and GTA4 and Hellgate:London. I still play guildwars too, but not nearly as much as I did before all the pvp-centric stuff started affecting pve horribly... mostly playing single player games now since hardcore pvp and economy-based cheaters tend to ruin online games...

If I keep seeing more QQ threads like this. Another GW forum.

In the spirit of On topic discussion:
While waiting for GW:EN..

I have a couple of reservations for my 360 finally coming out soon:
1. The Darkness (end of june)
2. Too Human (beginning of August...still thinking about this one.)
3. Bioshock (beginning/middle of august....most def)
4. Blue Dragon(end of August)

PC:
Quake Wars...maybe


Between now and GW:EN's eventual release (since release date is still not official) I will take a month off of GW most likely to focus on other games/rea life to be refreshed when GW:EN is finally released.

I'm getting a bit bored with GW lately too. I might play GWEN, might not. It depends on if I get interested again in GW at all until then. I am really looking forward to GW2, but that is quite a ways away. Hero's Journey looks like it could be quite good but it has a really fluid release date. It could entice me to pay a monthly fee if it's really great.

I think I'm gonna head back to consoles for the time being... I'm not going to buy a new system however and I only have PS2 at the moment. So I think I'll replay the Silent Hills and Tomb Raider 1 and those classic kinda games. Maybe FF8... why the hell not. I really liked that one.

2 moons looks good, its free too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2Moons

Well i still love the GW system, even thou some days i feel that guild wars is quite empty compared to when i first started playing, i guess thats the fact that its hard to find pve groups, you could blame heroes/henchmen but i blame people that want to play solo with out the so called idiots , me personally i like the crazy pve players.

Looking forward to.

UT3
QW:ET
Huxley
GW:EN
Fury
Exteel

maybe's

Granado Espada
Perfect world
2moons

Currently trying/playing when not gvging.
Dofus
Rappelz
Dungeon runners
UT2004
CSS


IMO Izzy is doing a good job on balance, i think the current pvp balance is better than its ever been, thou humility & shock need some thought and well Gaile just feeds the info shes given, as per the norm don't shoot the messenger.

Evil

Just got a DS myself. I've been playing a lot of Tetris DS and Mario Kart DS on the internet with it, it rocks.

Age of Conan. No doubt at all.

Loot scaling ruined PvE.
Assassins and their stupid dazing, snaring, hexing, silencing, critical bullcrap ruined the only forms of PvP i play.

1) Requests from PVE players regarding gameplay have gone completely ignored for long enough.

2) Armor stacking nerf = Bad job on balance. Majority of unused skills/imba skills still in the game = lol.

Not going anywhere. I have lots of goals that I set for myself...some in preparation for GW:EN and the hall of monuments...others just to meet the goals...

I am interested in several other games...but unlike all most all mmo's...this is the one game I'll always be able to play. So if I do leave to play another game more than likely I'll be back to play at some point.

Some future games on my list:
Transformers (looks like an interesting diversion)
TF2
Portal
Huxley
Stargate Worlds
Star Trek Online

Still haven't decided whether or not I'll get GW2...gotta get more info about it to make any kind of decision.

Let's not turn this into a QQing about the changes thread, lord knows we have enough of those already. I really believe they do a pretty good job on balance these days, although I would like to see more sweeping changes like back in days of yore.

Me, I'm leaving for a couple reasons. First of all, pretty much all my ingame friends have left for EVE and WoW. As much as I try, Olias won't go on drunken UW trips with me, even if I'm buying. Secondly, there's just less to do in general. I could do all the titles, but those just feel like grind to me. I guess I'm just losing the joy of innovating new builds to deal with new areas.