+0 xp to +1 xp for killing 5 or more level lower mobs, that is.
I think this would be a nice incentive and a reward for perma-pre charachters who do not want to grind or death level, but just slowly(VERY VERY slowly) reach lvl20 and LDoA simply by playing the game.
It would still take over 100,000 kills to go from lvl10 to lvl 20, so it would take a lot longer than death leveling, but it would give people who don't wanna afk death level and just play the game an alternative, slower but active, way of reaching LDoA, without diminishing the acomplishment of current LDoA title holders.
Death leveling would still be the preferred way to quickly go for the title, but now there would be a reward for those chars who spend a lot of time in pre-sear.
If it's a problem adding +1 xp just in pre-sear I doubt it would disturb post much either, as the reward is minimal (you would need 15,000 low level kills just for one skill point).
+0 xp to +1 xp in pre-searing
willie nelson
Turbobusa
i'd love that. it would also make it possible to do both survivor and ldoa.
Sophitia Leafblade
To Be Honest i think all creatures should give atleast 1xp minimum, there no incentive to go back and help friends with lower tier missions/quests, atleast this way u get a small amount of Xp and a small amount of money from drops.
Metatail
Would be great. It "encourages" people to do some active title earning than passive. But honestly I highly doubt that ANet will do something like that. Well you know, they "already have done much good to the pre searing by adding Charr Bags and Charr Salvage Kits" 
. But the idea itself is gooood 
. But the idea itself is gooood
Longasc
I think they should never have added another super ridiculous title like Legendary Defender of Ascalon and even promote it with certain items.
The idea is not bad, but the whole concept of perma-presearing is horrible in my opinion. Sorry for that.
I hope GWEN addresses the love for presearing and what makes it appeal to players... the multiple entrances and exits of the catacombs to other explorables are still unique, Bahdok Cavern is closest to it, not even Sorrow's Furnace features this kind of dungeon.
And the lush bunnyland flavor of course. Charr Homeland, here we come.
The idea is not bad, but the whole concept of perma-presearing is horrible in my opinion. Sorry for that.
I hope GWEN addresses the love for presearing and what makes it appeal to players... the multiple entrances and exits of the catacombs to other explorables are still unique, Bahdok Cavern is closest to it, not even Sorrow's Furnace features this kind of dungeon.
And the lush bunnyland flavor of course. Charr Homeland, here we come.
Shadow Kurd
/signed
LDoA and survivor FTW!
LDoA and survivor FTW!
stiffler
/signed
It would be nice to have both options available to achieve the titles
It would be nice to have both options available to achieve the titles
Hawkeye
Well if you want to make experience the incentive to pre-searing and then not give enough to make it worth a player's while to go through pre-searing over doing things the normal way, it's not really incentive.
If you want to do pre-searing, it's available. It isn't that you don't gain anything by doing it either. The missions give exp which you wouldn't get if you skipped a big part of pre-searing. Besides, I think you're missing the point. Pre-searing is a tutorial on how to play the game. If you want to redo the tutorial every character, you're welcome, but if you want to skip it, pre-searing isn't very hard to pass through quickly.
At that point, you'd be talking about adding +1 xp vs monsters on the monestary island of Cantha for balance. It's fine as it is.
/notsigned
If you want to do pre-searing, it's available. It isn't that you don't gain anything by doing it either. The missions give exp which you wouldn't get if you skipped a big part of pre-searing. Besides, I think you're missing the point. Pre-searing is a tutorial on how to play the game. If you want to redo the tutorial every character, you're welcome, but if you want to skip it, pre-searing isn't very hard to pass through quickly.
At that point, you'd be talking about adding +1 xp vs monsters on the monestary island of Cantha for balance. It's fine as it is.
/notsigned
MithranArkanere
Currently, the minimun cap is 16 exp. If th enemy would give less exp, you get 0, that is, at level 20, you get exp only from level 15 enmies or higher:
Experience table
What should be changed is to change the '0s' to '1s'.
So the less you can get is 1xp.
Then, make the LDoA an the survivor self-exclusive by code and done.
Experience table
What should be changed is to change the '0s' to '1s'.
So the less you can get is 1xp.
Then, make the LDoA an the survivor self-exclusive by code and done.
odly
/signed
And anyone who want's both legendary tittles and is willing to kill 1mill monsters to get it, can have it for all I care.
And anyone who want's both legendary tittles and is willing to kill 1mill monsters to get it, can have it for all I care.
Lexxor
/signed
Either that, or an "elite quest" in Northlands spawning a group of level 14 charrs. You have to defend the gates from theese, and they're not that easy to kill. But it would give meaning to "Defending" Ascalon.
Either that, or an "elite quest" in Northlands spawning a group of level 14 charrs. You have to defend the gates from theese, and they're not that easy to kill. But it would give meaning to "Defending" Ascalon.
vergerefosh
/signed, not got any plans to go for the title, but not sure if I'd want to death level if I did
Lycan Nibbler
/not signed
Any changes needed to happen when this title was introduced. Having a char thats worked through all the disconnects etc to lvl 19+, the last thing I want to be told is to start again so I can get survivor too.
Any changes needed to happen when this title was introduced. Having a char thats worked through all the disconnects etc to lvl 19+, the last thing I want to be told is to start again so I can get survivor too.
Orinn
/signed.
Let anyone who wants to stay perma-pre actually gain Xp to level, instead of death-levelling for all that time.
Let anyone who wants to stay perma-pre actually gain Xp to level, instead of death-levelling for all that time.
Yawgmoth
So a Legendary Defender of Ascalon can be someone who kills near 140,000 Aloe Seeds or River Skales just outside Ascalon and never seeing a single Charr? Crazy thing!
(i know technically it can be done now aswell by d/l'ing some moa bird, but it shouldn't matter here)
Wouldn't putting a single level 14 Charr boss somewhere in pre be a more elegant solution? (and make him hard to kill, good skillbar so he can't be quickly soloed)
I'm all for making the title obtainable without deathlevelling, but it should remain very hard to get and time consuming.
(i know technically it can be done now aswell by d/l'ing some moa bird, but it shouldn't matter here)
Wouldn't putting a single level 14 Charr boss somewhere in pre be a more elegant solution? (and make him hard to kill, good skillbar so he can't be quickly soloed)
I'm all for making the title obtainable without deathlevelling, but it should remain very hard to get and time consuming.
MithranArkanere
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So a Legendary Defender of Ascalon can be someone who kills near 140,000 Aloe Seeds or River Skales just outside Ascalon and never seeing a single Charr? Crazy thing!
(i know technically it can be done now aswell by d/l'ing some moa bird, but it shouldn't matter here) Wouldn't putting a single level 14 Charr boss somewhere in pre be a more elegant solution? (and make him hard to kill, good skillbar so he can't be quickly soloed) I'm all for making the title obtainable without deathlevelling, but it should remain very hard to get and time consuming. |
The 0xp appears after 5 levels.
That is, if you are level 16, you'll get 0 XP from level 10 and down.
If you make it so the 0 XP is from 10 levels down, and the 1XP is from 5 levels down, you'll get what you want:
You'll be ONLY able to get to level 20 by killing the only Level 10 enemies in Presearing, that is, the 4 Charr bosses.
Being bosses they'll give double XP, so, you'll get 8 XP per run.
- 5 levels less than you: 1XP.
- 10 levels less thanyou: 0XP.
Hm... that should work...
Div
/signed. That'd be pretty good for LDoA and survivor
Echuu Ishtar
/signed... let us actually "defend" Ascalon.
Vinraith
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I lean towards saying /signed to the suggestion, but really they should simply never have created this situation in the first place.
Willow O Whisper
/signed as said by Echuu lets make this title "Defender Of Ascalon" instead of "Legendary Coffin Filler Of Ascalon"
Entreri
They so need to blast that 'Live to Win' song by Paul Stanley during this if they implemented it.
Roo Ella
/SIGNED oh I could use that for my perma charr
I don't like the idea really of just afk to get the title
it takes the fun out of the game IMO for those that want to get to it
playing the game and helping people on quests or showing new players
the ropes.
Even if post was +1 as well I don't see a bad problem with it.
I don't like the idea really of just afk to get the title
it takes the fun out of the game IMO for those that want to get to it
playing the game and helping people on quests or showing new players
the ropes.
Even if post was +1 as well I don't see a bad problem with it.
MMSDome
I really like this idea but my guildy figured out this would make the title very bottable which really harms the title so I am gonig to have to disagree with this otherwise it was a great thought man.
/not signed
/not signed
MithranArkanere
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I really like this idea but my guildy figured out this would make the title very bottable which really harms the title so I am gonig to have to disagree with this otherwise it was a great thought man.
/not signed |
You just sit around and wait to get killed again and again. Then kill some easy mobs.
dread pirate fargus
/unsigned
to me there is nothing legendary about farming 100,000 skales outside ascalon. the hardest part of the title is the fact that you have to charr hunt. but at the lvl 15-16 point you are getting 8xp per boss. with this 1xp per kill you could just kill 16 skale and get the same xp. or even bandits which you can kill much faster.
hell we would begin seeing people botting the title by just using flare on gargoyles, rezoning and repeating.
charr axxxe fiend
Legendary Defender of Ascalon
to me there is nothing legendary about farming 100,000 skales outside ascalon. the hardest part of the title is the fact that you have to charr hunt. but at the lvl 15-16 point you are getting 8xp per boss. with this 1xp per kill you could just kill 16 skale and get the same xp. or even bandits which you can kill much faster.
hell we would begin seeing people botting the title by just using flare on gargoyles, rezoning and repeating.
charr axxxe fiend
Legendary Defender of Ascalon
Star Gazer
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I really like this idea but my guildy figured out this would make the title very bottable which really harms the title so I am gonig to have to disagree with this otherwise it was a great thought man.
/not signed |
bots want titles?!!?!
Zabe
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/unsigned
to me there is nothing legendary about farming 100,000 skales outside ascalon. the hardest part of the title is the fact that you have to charr hunt. but at the lvl 15-16 point you are getting 8xp per boss. with this 1xp per kill you could just kill 16 skale and get the same xp. or even bandits which you can kill much faster. hell we would begin seeing people botting the title by just using flare on gargoyles, rezoning and repeating. charr axxxe fiend Legendary Defender of Ascalon |
/Signed
This would make the title doable for other than those who can keep their computer open 24/7
Steboy93
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/unsigned
to me there is nothing legendary about farming 100,000 skales outside ascalon. the hardest part of the title is the fact that you have to charr hunt. but at the lvl 15-16 point you are getting 8xp per boss. with this 1xp per kill you could just kill 16 skale and get the same xp. or even bandits which you can kill much faster. hell we would begin seeing people botting the title by just using flare on gargoyles, rezoning and repeating. charr axxxe fiend Legendary Defender of Ascalon |
No offence but is the only reason you have unsigned this because you already have the title and want others to find it as hard to obtain as you did?
Asides from that, good idea,
/signed
At the moment it is legendary martyr of Ascalon, not legendary defender.
Nemo the Capitalist
pay anet $20 bucks gets u LDOA
pay 30$ u get LS
GG
pay 30$ u get LS
GG
Lilanthe
I wouldn't expect a change in this title... moreso, if they would have wanted it, it would already be done.
Lagg
Just add a few mobs of level 22 Charr somewhere (far away from an outpost) and watch the people who spent months upon months AFK'ing all QQ when LDoA becomes a lot more easy to attain (and meaningless at the same time).
Exterminate all
/signed
DL sucks, if they added a part of the game, why not make it worth while and available to people with a life?
Not that I have a life or anything :P
DL sucks, if they added a part of the game, why not make it worth while and available to people with a life?
Not that I have a life or anything :P
raven214
/signed
Not everyone has a stable enough net connection to not DC over the course of 10-12 hours of afk "gaming". Plus, it makes so much more sense to get the title from actually killing stuff, especially charr
, rather than letting them kill me for hours on end. It can still be a slow process requiring lots of time, but it doesn't have to, and I would argue shouldn't, require hours of uninterrupted afk time.
Not everyone has a stable enough net connection to not DC over the course of 10-12 hours of afk "gaming". Plus, it makes so much more sense to get the title from actually killing stuff, especially charr
, rather than letting them kill me for hours on end. It can still be a slow process requiring lots of time, but it doesn't have to, and I would argue shouldn't, require hours of uninterrupted afk time.
Deadlyjunk
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bots want titles?!!?!
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That's all I needed, /signed.
It would actually be a real no life title then, not an afk title.
Tyla
it will be better than flushing out all of your electricity by staying online but not on the keyboard all the time....i say /signed!
Swift Thief
Hyper.nl
/signed
Nice way of grinding for title without death leveling.
Nice way of grinding for title without death leveling.
Mister O
Or just change the title to Meat, since LDOAs are just meals for charrs.
Jetdoc
/signed. Love the idea.
the_jos
Well, ok, but only if the LDoA is mutual exclusive with survivor and the XP can only be gained by killing charr.
And the time needed to gain the title would be roughly the same as deathlevel.
And the time needed to gain the title would be roughly the same as deathlevel.