Bonus Mission Pack Availability

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Sorry but that is wrong, most major cities have Western union in the Uk through Royal Mail post offices
I'm wasn't talking about W.U., but about their prepaid MasterCard.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
I'm wasn't talking about W.U., but about their prepaid MasterCard.
fair enuf... however, according to both visa and mastercard, they are available her, but I'm buggered if I can find them anywhere... I'll look at the post office 2moro whilst I'm working

Floreum

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Rt/R

I think there needs to be more stuff in the in-game store.
Like the starter weapons from GOTY (Game of the Year) Edition, but for Factions and Nightfall. Or... Maybe collectors edition stuff like Mini pets or music?
Also, can you buy the same campaign and it adding more character spaces?

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

not sure where the Western Union thing was headed, but that's what most multinational scams use. With WU, there's no faud protection, no way to reverse charges, no way to protect yourself at all.

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
not sure where the Western Union thing was headed, but that's what most multinational scams use. With WU, there's no faud protection, no way to reverse charges, no way to protect yourself at all.
I have no more info on WU, only my own experience. I used it 3 times in my life thusfar and it went ok. I got my goods. Ofcourse it all depends on who you're buying from. I'm not talking about their prepaid card though, I used a transfer at a post office. It was expensive though, 10 euro extra or something when I transfered 30 euro, which made the total cost over 40 euro. I don't remember their exact prices.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

Alright, I'll start off by saying that I don't particularly mind this promotion. I mean, the box is nice, but since there's no collector's edition, and I can download the manual (if there is one, and if there are those cool mini story things in it like the others), I don't mind just purchasing the game online to get a guarantee of a pre release with my game (and get it free since it gives credit towards the actual game), and get easy access to the game. One thing I do have a problem with (and a few other people on these forums), however, is that buying in the online store is going to cost me quite a bit more than if I went to EB.

Okay, so I live in Australia. Which means the only store I can buy GW from (apart from online) is EB. At EB, according to their website, the game will cost $49.95. I'm fine with that price. It's the price I'd expect to pay for a game that I want as soon as it is released. This is only slightly more than I would be paying if I lived in the US (49.95 AUD is around 43 USD). Now here is the problem that I am having. In the GW online store, my currency is locked in British pounds. This would be because I bought a european edition of the game (all GW editions in Australia are from Europe) Now, I'm not sure how much GWEN is going to cost in pounds, but according to Amazon.co.uk, the RRP is 24.99. 24.99 GBP is equivalent to around 58 AUD. Quite a bit more than I would be paying if I were to be buying from EB for a boxed edition, and significantly more than if I was paying 39.99 USD for it through the online store. So I, like a few people have said before me, would like to request some way of choosing which currency to be used in the online store. I would be quite happy if it was linked to the region of my account (I changed mine to American servers awhile ago, since it gives me a better connection).

darted

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Braveheart IV

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leslie
I currently have 2 accounts on Guild wars, both with all 3 campaigns, 3 of which are Collector's Edition. Also, for both accounts, I have pre-ordered and gotten bonus pre-order items. I have bought both accounts a number of extra slots, and unlocked (or am close to unlocking) every skill, upgrade etc with balthazar faction. apart from a PvP edition that will have no effect, or extra slots that I needn't have because I already have one of every class of character on both accounts.

Also, I am capped at 2GB download limit /month on my ISP; It's not really faesible for me to download GW:EotN.

It seems a lot of Veteran players want the box, the artwork, posters, and such when they purchase GW:EotN, and are extremely interested in this bonus mission pack. Myself and my girlfriend both really want to play these missions as we feel they fill in any gaps or answer any questions we've had about the campaigns so far.

I'd be more than happy to buy the bonus mission pack at some extra cost, but I'm not looking to buy, say, 4 character slots that i'd have no usage for just for the bonus mission pack. It seems a lot of veteran players are having similar problems, and would like to see other solutions.
I am mostly in the same situation. I really want the bonus pack, but what do I spend the money on? Just buy character slots? Why not let me purchase the bonus pack? Since the way most titles work to punish those of us that play multiple characters now you punish those of us that have kept up?

darted

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Braveheart IV

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Anet was damned either way. Since this is the first time they've done something like this, there would be hate regardless (perhaps that's why I defend Anet a little too heartedly).

Anet has always said it was not going to nickle and dime us to death, as that is just another way of "pay to play"; and goes against their Chapter model.

So, if they just put the 4 Bonus Missions out there, for say, $10, there would be a lot of grief. Not only from the people who say they cannot access the store, but from people who would say that this is a form of pay to play.

By offering the Missions as a free bonus for those who shop the Online store, they circumvent the pay to play accusation, but now they have made people basically choose between buying GWEN online or in a physical store. (yes, I know you can spend the money on anything in the store, but the price point of $30, and the lack of other things to buy, screams GWEN).

There are no perfect solutions, but Guild Wars 2 is coming, Chapters are done, and it's unknown what the future payment plan will look like (well, except No Monthly Fees. That is a promise for Guild Wars 2).

So, I think now is the perfect time for Anet to perfect this strategy, while Guild Wars 2 is being developed.
Good Point, but in reality IMHO adding mission bonus packs for $10 purchase is better with the limited content of the online store. To avoid the pay to play argument, call them expansions in GW2.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Floreum
Also, can you buy the same campaign and it adding more character spaces?
No, once you buy a Chapter, it is added to your account, and you cannot add it again for more slots.

Upgrading to Collector's Edition will give you the benefits of the CE (ie, any minipets, Auras, dances) but again, that will only work once (and the CEs are not available online anyway). And it will still not add extra slots if you already own the Chapter.

But since the Chapters are $50, and slots are $10, and you only get 2 Slots per Chapter (with the exception of the first Chapter you buy), you're better off buying the slots individually anyway.

Sirds

Sirds

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Riga

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon
You probably don't want your GW account tied to a non-existent address - or worse: you probably don't want your GW account tied to an e-mail address that now belongs to someone else. But, you can't change it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Fair enough, but honestly, I think you're a little paranoid.
Chthon is right. Everyday thousands and thousands domains are sold, traded or expired. I created small local GW fans site and players ask me - what they can do about email change. There are nothing to do after your email is gone! Serious NCsoft store fault.
Although I purchased Nightfall and slots online, I feel very uncomfortable with current situation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Are people going to really go through that much trouble just to access a game? We're not talking about you bank account. Just some toons. (of course, I'm casual, and don't have millions of gold on my account).
Hmm... I spend about 250 $ on this toons.

Shmanka

Shmanka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Your Head

The Brave Will Fall [Nion]

Me/

<< Refuses to spend another dime on ANet. There is nothing that attracts me in your store to think I can continue playing this game when your going to completely ditch it.

Lonk

Lonk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Gwonline Guild [GWO]

N/R

A bit of an off-topic question to Gaile, any ETA on when we'll find out a date for GW:EN preorder to be added to the online store? I picked up a visa gift card just for gw:en/mission pack bonus and was hoping to be able to use it soon and get the purchase out of the way.

LunaKali

LunaKali

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

South Africa

[TsR]

W/N

I had numerous issues with the online store and getting my password reset etc etc.. and a few other problems - long story, even plaync doesn't quite get my problem. But in anycase, I'm not against buying stuff online - I do it all the time with my credit card. I do how ever prefer getting a nice little box and whatever comes with it. Its a pity there is no collectors as they would have made lots of money with that - i would buy it. I will therefor be buying the boxed set in store. If i loose out of extra missions - so be it. I'd rather pay for them in a shop.. than get them free by spending money in the online shop.

But I can bet that those missions would be released in some kinda way.. in the future... prob a few months after GW EN is released. Maybe as a combo with something else... Anyway i do believe they will release it in stores.. prob after the release of GW EN. And I'll still believe it.. even after they deny it 2.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Axe
Alright, I'll start off by saying that I don't particularly mind this promotion. I mean, the box is nice, but since there's no collector's edition, and I can download the manual (if there is one, and if there are those cool mini story things in it like the others), I don't mind just purchasing the game online to get a guarantee of a pre release with my game (and get it free since it gives credit towards the actual game), and get easy access to the game. One thing I do have a problem with (and a few other people on these forums), however, is that buying in the online store is going to cost me quite a bit more than if I went to EB.

Okay, so I live in Australia. Which means the only store I can buy GW from (apart from online) is EB. At EB, according to their website, the game will cost $49.95. I'm fine with that price. It's the price I'd expect to pay for a game that I want as soon as it is released. This is only slightly more than I would be paying if I lived in the US (49.95 AUD is around 43 USD). Now here is the problem that I am having. In the GW online store, my currency is locked in British pounds. This would be because I bought a european edition of the game (all GW editions in Australia are from Europe) Now, I'm not sure how much GWEN is going to cost in pounds, but according to Amazon.co.uk, the RRP is 24.99. 24.99 GBP is equivalent to around 58 AUD. Quite a bit more than I would be paying if I were to be buying from EB for a boxed edition, and significantly more than if I was paying 39.99 USD for it through the online store. So I, like a few people have said before me, would like to request some way of choosing which currency to be used in the online store. I would be quite happy if it was linked to the region of my account (I changed mine to American servers awhile ago, since it gives me a better connection).
QFT.

Aussies get such a bad deal in the online store. I know we don't have our own server, but to lump us in with the British Pound is just monetary murder...

Ideally I'd like to be able to pay in AU Dollars, but if not, at least put us in with either the Euro, or the US Dollar, which is slightly more manageable with the exchange rate.

Leslie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

Slash afk [afk]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NORTICAT
i seriously didnt need an extra 3 char slots.....but maybe they will make good mules when GW: EN comes out?
Four extra slots for people in UK. -.-

cmdratz

cmdratz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Fruor Amicitia Conamen Effectus [FACE]

R/Mo

The way I see it, anyone who buys Eye of the North, including the boxed version and registers by a certain time should get the 4 bonus missions. If you would like my frank advice, very few people will play the missions after a time has passed because few others will even have them: make the 4 bonus missions available to anyone who registers the expansion, at any time. Then people will replay the missions and they will be worth much more to the guild wars community.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdratz
The way I see it, anyone who buys Eye of the North, including the boxed version and registers by a certain time should get the 4 bonus missions.

If you would like my frank advice, very few people will play the missions after a time has passed because few others will even have them: make the 4 bonus missions available to anyone who registers the expansion, at any time. Then people will replay the missions and they will be worth much more to the guild wars community.
I suspect most people will "solo" the missions with Heros and Henchies, but since we really have no idea how hard / easy these missions are, or even how long they are, or anything about them except a basic premise:

it's a little early to be making predictions.

Anet won't make them available to all, because the entire point of the Bonus missions is to entice people to use the online store.

Catraine

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Me/

It would be nice if we got some sort of notice to verify that we qualified for the mission pack promotion. I just spent my $29.97 on three new character slots, but no where did it tell me that I just got my free mission bonus pack (to be released in november!).

Could they just send out an email or something? I realize I'm being paranoid, but I'd really like something in writing to verify that I have it.

Droniac

Droniac

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Netherlands

Orto Sole

W/N

1) Why do Europeans have to pay more than Americans? At current exchange rates $29 USD translates to 21 Euro, not 26. Similarly, the British are overcharged as well.

2) Only featuring credit card payment denies access to the game shop for most European players. It'd be nice for there to be some other means of payment, like purchasing NCSoft timecards and using those for online game shop purchases or at least something other than using a credit card.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

[quote=Droniac]1) Why do Europeans have to pay more than Americans? At current exchange rates $29 USD translates to 21 Euro, not 26. Similarly, the British are overcharged as well.[quote]
This has already been explained... It is due to local tax rates and other sales fees in that area!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Droniac
2) Only featuring credit card payment denies access to the game shop for most European players. It'd be nice for there to be some other means of payment, like purchasing NCSoft timecards and using those for online game shop purchases or at least something other than using a credit card.
And its not just gredit cards... debit cards are also usable, including bank pin cards which are available to MOST (not all, i admit, but most) people the world over with a bank account

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shmanka
<< Refuses to spend another dime on ANet. There is nothing that attracts me in your store to think I can continue playing this game when your going to completely ditch it.
please explain to me how they are ditching a game when their follow up game will be intrinsically linked through an addition in GW:EN, which is much more than most have when most sequels are released...

sheep1220

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Ive got the same problem with this promotion as many other users seem to have (I have just finished reading this entire thread).

While I understand that this move was made to encourage people to use the shop, I do think its unfair in some ways. Like many people stated, many gamers (myself included) like buying the game with the box, as well as trial keys, printed manuals and the rest of the goodies that come along with it. Not only that, but it is usually cheaper to get it that way as opposed to the online store where you only recieve the game (w/o any extras) for more money.

Additionally, many users (again, myself included) have already used the store in the past for game purhchases, and simply don't have any other need for more addons. I currently own 3 accounts, 2 of which are prophecies only (were mule accounts before the storage patch and ability to buy additional slots), and a main account with all 3 campaigns, the GOTY upgrade, and 4 additional character slots (bringing the total to 12 on that account).

I see no reason in needing additional character slots for my account after spending almost $50 in the in-game store in addition to over $150 for the campaigns in stores, just to be able to have access to a new bonus area (that cannot be gained any other way).

I think that its in Anet's best interest to allow people who have already purchased through the store to play this new bonus content, as it currently cannot be accessed any other way. I will likely buy GW:EN, though I prefer to have the box and manual.

stillborn nightengale

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Go Home and [Cry]

A/R

What about people who have already spent like $200+ on the various campaigns and extras for G.W.? We really have to pay even more for missions explaining certain parts of the game that should've previously been explained? Asking to spend that much more on just a few missions to those who have already spent a significant amount is kind of harsh.

Edit: Plus, I know this has been mentioned before but people like me have invested a large sum of time in this game resulting in the unlocking of many of the PvP aspects and already own the available items on G.W., which makes forcing us to buy something that we don't need a little bit of a turn off.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by stillborn nightengale
What about people who have already spent like $200+ on the various campaigns and extras for G.W.? We really have to pay even more for missions explaining certain parts of the game that should've previously been explained? Asking to spend that much more on just a few missions to those who have already spent a significant amount is kind of harsh.
/agree

I want the box too!

nrvllrgrs

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Keepers of Lore [LORE]

Me/R

How about adding the Guild Wars soundtracks as other things that players could buy? This way players could still buy $30+ of merchandise from the store as well as getting a physical box for GW:EN.

Belzan

Belzan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Everlasting Sacred Path

N/

I don't see ANet selling merchandise in the store. No "I <3 GW!" T-Shirts or "My other ride is a Dolyak" bumperstickers. Despite the revenue this would bring in, I remember reading somewhere that this isn't the style of business they want. Yes, people would buy this, dare I say it, crap, but it isn't necessary. I think GW hats and coffee cups would cheapen the game and make it too commercial. Granted, that leaves less for us to buy in the Online store, but I've come around to seeing that the mission pack is a simple ploy to get us to buy GW:EN from the in-game store. ANet will make more money by cutting out the middle man and will save money on packaging and shipping.

Something I would like to see is the opportunity to purchase some of the items found in the boxes, since there is less of an intent from ANet to sell via merchant stores using boxed versions of the game. By purchasing GW:EN from the in-game store, I lose my book and map. I would really like a map of GW:EN. I also really enjoy the art books and skill pins that came with the collectors editions. Maybe that's just me.

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

The better selection the store has the, more people will have the bonus mission pack and the more revenue it will bring in.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Can I qualify for the Bonus Mission Pack through purchases in the PlayNC Store?

Yes, you can. All purchases made through either the Guild Wars In-Game Store or the PlayNC Store from noon Pacific Time on July 5, 2007 through noon Pacific Time on October 31, 2007 are added together. Once you meet the required amount, the bonus missions will be yours and you'll get access once the missions go live in November.
http://www.guildwars.com/products/ex...ionpackfaq.php

So NOW they say that is possible. I needlessly spent more money in the GW Online Store paying in stupid British Pounds, when I could have been charged in US Dollars through the PlayNC store because I'm currently in the US and that store prices you according to IP. Unlike the retarded Online Store which groups Aussies into paying in British Pounds.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
http://www.guildwars.com/products/ex...ionpackfaq.php

So NOW they say that is possible. I needlessly spent more money in the GW Online Store paying in stupid British Pounds, when I could have been charged in US Dollars through the PlayNC store because I'm currently in the US and that store prices you according to IP. Unlike the retarded Online Store which groups Aussies into paying in British Pounds.
do you really have to copy/paste the same bitch more than one place?

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
do you really have to copy/paste the same bitch more than one place?
Do you really have to troll in a thread that no longer concerns you?