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Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

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10 Jul 2007 at 02:28 - 161

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Originally Posted by scrinner

You guys. Think it over.

Think real hard.

Did those brain cells pop yet?

There are quite a few reasons they might have to justify an online purchase.

1. Avoid design issues. For example, they wont have to make a new game box and they wont have to manufacture those saving valuable time and money.
2. Putting the mission pack into production could take a long time and thus we get less mission packs a year and Arena-Net gets less profit per sale.
3. The store is the fastest way to distribute stuff. No box, No retailers to deal with. More profit for them, Faster delivery for you.

One reason many companies are turned off from doing such things is due to all the manufacturing required in making the boxes and then selling them. This way valuable time is saved and in the end, we get more stuff. Sure A knights of the nine thing with guildwars mission packs at one point would be a good thing to do at one point but right now, they don't have enough items to justify a boxed item.

Those ARE good points, WITH ONE FLAW!!!

Arena Net is STILL releasing a BOXED package for GW:EN, so they have already made or making the box and everything that will go inside it. They will be charging us the same price with box as the price without box. IF they actually offered GW:EN $5 cheaper online, I might have considered it. Still, I can get better deals here, because stores of specials sometimes. So why buy it online, when you can buy the boxed version?

And another point someone made...if they put this much effort into the Mission Pack, OF COURSE they are going to milk it later, by offering it for a charge in the online store, at which time, I WOULD actually buy it.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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10 Jul 2007 at 03:20 - 162

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Originally Posted by Chthon

You probably don't want your GW account tied to a non-existent address - or worse: you probably don't want your GW account tied to an e-mail address that now belongs to someone else. But, you can't change it.

To kind of come back to the main topic here. I'd love to play the bonus missions. I'd love to use the store. But, until these security problems are fixed, there's no way in hell that's going to happen.

Fair enough, but honestly, I think you're a little paranoid.

Are people going to really go through that much trouble just to access a game? We're not talking about you bank account. Just some toons. (of course, I'm casual, and don't have millions of gold on my account).

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

10 Jul 2007 at 05:19 - 163

Have you considered the boxes might have been made long before the mission pack was even conceived?

Due to the way guildwars is made, they can get away by not including the full client onto the disks. Besides that its just a matter of preference.

Same Price (They cant compete against retail else retail will forcibly lower their prices) or probably cheaper due to a sale= Box + Game

Same Constant price= New Missions and a game.

Hard decision but i got tired of the boxes a long time ago. Personally i'd rather see the rise of the white mantle then a white slip of paper reminding me not to give my password to anybody (Oh the irony..)

GhostRaptor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Brighton, UK

10 Jul 2007 at 07:05 - 164

For those in this thread looking at the conversion rates, you really should stop and think about it deeper. There's more involved than just conversion rates.

There are several completely separate companies under the NCsoft umbrella, each of which operates in its own region and has its own costs associated.

Conversion rates ... so, which currency should be set as the benchmark? Try this: Convert X Euros to US$ (call this value Y). Convert the same X Euros to British pounds. Now convert the pounds to US$ (value Z). Compare Y and Z; they'll be different.

Conversion rates fluctuate. What is "fair" today could be completely different tomorrow.

What it all boils down to is that individual regions set price points that make sense within that region. They take into account local costs of running the company, local tax considerations, local cost of living and income considerations and a whole lot more.

I haven't checked the online store for a while, but I would be very surprised if you actually have to buy more items (forget the actual price point).

It's simply not as simple as comparing currencies via a conversion.

Empedocles

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10 Jul 2007 at 07:31 - 165

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostRaptor

For those in this thread looking at the conversion rates, you really should stop and think about it deeper. There's more involved than just conversion rates.

There are several completely separate companies under the NCsoft umbrella, each of which operates in its own region and has its own costs associated.

Conversion rates ... so, which currency should be set as the benchmark? Try this: Convert X Euros to US$ (call this value Y). Convert the same X Euros to British pounds. Now convert the pounds to US$ (value Z). Compare Y and Z; they'll be different.

Conversion rates fluctuate. What is "fair" today could be completely different tomorrow.

Seriously, by messing with online currency converters you get a difference of 4th or 5th decimal place (because of rounding up), there can't be any greater difference due to law of one price. It's highly unlikely there will be any fluctuations within next year that would explain the discrepancy between the required amount of money to be spent in order receive the bonus mission.

Let me reiterate: I understand there may be some pricing differences between different regions as to how much a single item costs, but I wonder why people in other regions are required to spend 20% more in online store to receive the same bonus? I'm just curious about this logic, not that it matters much, since as you said, buying GW:EN will be probably enough alone.

GhostRaptor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Brighton, UK

10 Jul 2007 at 07:47 - 166

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Originally Posted by Empedocles

Seriously, by messing with online currency converters you get a difference of 4th or 5th decimal place (because of rounding up), there can't be any greater difference due to law of one price.

Gah, true. How'd I get that so wrong *cough*. Ignoring that stuff up, the point is that while currency conversion rates will be taken into consideration they can't be used as the 100% defining criteria.

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It's highly unlikely there will be any fluctuations within next year that would explain the discrepancy between the required amount of money to be spent in order receive the bonus mission.

Changes can happen suddenly and unexpectedly - take a look into what happened in Australia a few years ago when the Aus$ crashed relative to the US$ in a very short time frame (went from Aus$1.00 = ~US$0.70 to ~US$0.45).

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Let me reiterate: I understand there may be some pricing differences between different regions as to how much a single item costs, but I wonder why people in other regions are required to spend 20% more in online store to receive the same bonus? I'm just curious about this logic, not that it matters much, since as you said, buying GW:EN will be probably enough alone.

Like I said, because of regional differences and because you are actually dealing with different companies with differing costs. NC US is not the same company as NC EU. My guess is the price point for triggering the bonus is set in relation to each regions pricing and is set such that all users will be required to purchase the same combinations of items in order to reach the trigger (for example X character slots).

There's always going to be regional differences. Get used to it. Taxes differ, average income differs, cost of living differs, cost of running a business differs. Ergo, the price tag differs - and that will include for setting things like trigger points for special promotions.

Instead of looking at the exact currency values, look at what items you need to buy in order to activate the trigger. Do you actually need to buy more items? If yes - then you have something to complain about.

Queen of the Sand

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

10 Jul 2007 at 08:02 - 167

Just add more items to the shop.

I want to see gold added I just spent 300k standing on a bloody corner square all weekend and now running low. Also more unique stuff like the 1 million edition pack. How about hero weapons ect.

Theres nothing in the shop I want to buy and I have already ordered my copy of GWEN from Gameplay and dont want to cancell and not get all the frimmings that go with the purchase

Ideas good for a mission pack but why tie it to a set of rules that's going to force people to spend cash on add ons they dont reall want or need

countesscorpula

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10 Jul 2007 at 08:11 - 168

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostRaptor

There's always going to be regional differences. Get used to it. Taxes differ, average income differs, cost of living differs, cost of running a business differs. Ergo, the price tag differs - and that will include for setting things like trigger points for special promotions.

So it's based on the economics of the region you live in? Ok then, explain this one. I'm located in Canada. When I go to the online store, the funds are in Euros. There is at least one other person on this forum that is located in the US and obliged to pay in British Pounds in the online store. There are numerous Australians who are obliged to pay in pounds, when from all accounts, the Aussie economy is more akin to the US than it is to GB... and geographically speaking, they are about as far from the UK as one can get. At present, there is no way for us to change the currency used in our respective online stores. If pricing is based on the region you live in, why can't i make purchases using the currency of my region (north america)? If the currencies of a region aren't accepted in the online store (Aussie dollar), why can't they choose a currency that best suits them?

Lankster24

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10 Jul 2007 at 08:28 - 169

Ok theres alot of posts in this thread and no time to read it can i just ask is Guildwars becoming pay to play pay or do we just have to pay for bonus addons. And does it also mean Guildwars One (Proph,Fact,Nightfall) will be updated with addons or will it be left to die once GW:2 is out.

countesscorpula

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10 Jul 2007 at 08:57 - 170

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lankster24

Ok theres alot of posts in this thread and no time to read it can i just ask is Guildwars becoming pay to play pay or do we just have to pay for bonus addons. And does it also mean Guildwars One (Proph,Fact,Nightfall) will be updated with addons or will it be left to die once GW:2 is out.

We've always paid for additional content (Sorrow's furnace being the exception to the rule), with Factions and NF being examples of this. Pay to play refers to monthly fees in order to access the basic facilities. At present, A-Net has clearly stated that there will be no monthly fees in order to play existing content. They are toying with the idea of mini expansions being sold via the online store. This bonus mission pack is an attempt to test the waters. So, pay to play for additional content - yes. Pay to play for existing content you already have access to - no. You can continue to run through pre-searing to hell's precipice to sorrow's furnace to your heart's content, there will be no fees beyond what you've paid already when you first installed.

Gaile and the A-Net founders have stated in interviews and forums that they will continue to support GW1 (the trilogy+expansion) as long as people continue to play. I highly doubt it will receive as much attention as it has in the past, but some might say that the changes made recently qualify as "too much" attention (a lot of folks really don't like loot scaling). So, my guess is a skeleton crew of devs will be assigned to keep an eye on any emerging bugs, and maybe plan the occassional special event (new wintersday activities = snowball fights between the Norn and Azura?).

Gun Pierson

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10 Jul 2007 at 11:10 - 171

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

And I agree with you. We need much, much more in that store!

I said as much, just today, to a variety of people!

They could have made a lots of money since the release of the online store. For example with little mission packs every few months etc. (still two statues at temple of the ages without a mission to give one example). I expect people would buy that kinda stuff in the online store for let's say between 5 and 15$ depending on the amount of content or special things like goty weapons. At least it convinced me to buy goty items.

Still some people would feel left out, but all sides need to come to the middle and compromise so we would have got a win-win-win situation.

The online store was neglected and I'm sorry to say but some of Anet's staff need a kick under their butt. You guys missed an opportunity and now you want us to make it up for you by offering us this ridiculous choice to make your online store worthy and profitable. At this point the offer looks like good marketing, but the whole online shop story is just bad marketing while it should have been a succes!

Mordakai

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10 Jul 2007 at 11:35 - 172

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

The online store was neglected and I'm sorry to say but some of Anet's staff need a kick under their butt. You guys missed an opportunity and now you want us to make it up for you by offering us this ridiculous choice to make your online store worthy and profitable.

Eh, sorry for the confusion, but isn't that what they are doing now?

Honestly, I prefer a free bonus for using the store, than having to pay for 4 missions, but I wonder if I'm in the minority here.

Lyssa Rowan Tree

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

England

KLF

R/Rt

10 Jul 2007 at 12:27 - 173

Let us buy the bonus mission pack seperately in the online store for £5 or something, thats my request.

Would make a lot of people happy. People who feel like 2nd class citizens now because they are being branded as 'less loyal' than people who buy from the online store. "Im giving all my cash to the company I love and Im single handedly saving the environment too so Im more loyal than you and deserve bonus missions ner ner".

The rest of us cant complain because we get a box as our reward.

A box is not a reward, its what games come in. I have been buying games for 20 years and never looked at the box as my "reward" for buying the game from a shop. Truth is, all the people buying from GAME, Play etc get nothing. Some people already put in their orders, some dont trust the online store, some prefer a boxed version. Whatever they are all loyal customers.

If there are bonus missions let us all have a chance to enjoy them, without putting a high minimum spend value onto them. The store contains nothing most of us want to buy.

Sjekster

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Mo/Me

10 Jul 2007 at 12:31 - 174

Besides the fact that I prefer a boxed copy of EotN, I have another reason why I won't buy it through the in game store: My regular shop will probably have it cheaper...

Sjekster

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10 Jul 2007 at 13:09 - 175

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Eh, sorry for the confusion, but isn't that what they are doing now?

Honestly, I prefer a free bonus for using the store, than having to pay for 4 missions, but I wonder if I'm in the minority here.

Ha, they could charge me 10 dollar, and it still would be cheaper for me to buy the game in my normal store.

CowTrix

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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R/Mo

10 Jul 2007 at 13:16 - 176

Lol I bought NF on July 4th with some spare cash

Which sucks

I contacted support and got the typical soulless response about rock hard deadlines - god forbid a company would actually be generous and give someone leeway.

Oh, and Anet, please, please NEVER sell anything like micro-upgrades, or gold, or items, please! This gives financially advantaged players a huge advantage and destroys the main goal, as I see it, of Guild Wars which is to provide a balanced and fair system for all players, and rewarding skill, not the width of their wallet.

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Where are we living in? communism/socialism?...

It's okay for Anet to make a profit, but the moment they place profit before creating the best game they possibly can, and supporting those who have decided to invest a considerable amount of money into the experience, is the moment they lose a customer, and the quality of the game takes a dive.

Lonesamurai

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10 Jul 2007 at 13:30 - 177

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowTrix

Lol I bought NF on July 4th with some spare cash

Which sucks

I contacted support and got the typical soulless response about rock hard deadlines - god forbid a company would actually be generous and give someone leeway.

Ok, that sucks

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Originally Posted by CowTrix

Oh, and Anet, please, please NEVER sell anything like micro-upgrades, or gold, or items, please! This gives financially advantaged players a huge advantage and destroys the main goal, as I see it, of Guild Wars which is to provide a balanced and fair system for all players, and rewarding skill, not the width of their wallet.

Too late, look at the GotY edition weapons pack...

however, even if they did sell items, the items may be cool, but they would still me the same stats as others already in the game anyway

Mordakai

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10 Jul 2007 at 13:34 - 178

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Originally Posted by Sjekster

Ha, they could charge me 10 dollar, and it still would be cheaper for me to buy the game in my normal store.

Surely you're not saying you can get GWEN for $10...

so what are you saying?

Mordakai

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10 Jul 2007 at 13:38 - 179

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Too late, look at the GotY edition weapons pack...

however, even if they did sell items, the items may be cool, but they would still me the same stats as others already in the game anyway

Exactly. I don't consider the GotY pack anything special (even though I bought it...)

Weapons are customized so they can't be sold, also.

Micro-transactions like that are fine, it's like paying extra for a CE.

mips

Ascalonian Squire

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10 Jul 2007 at 13:50 - 180

iDEAL please?

Gun Pierson

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10 Jul 2007 at 14:52 - 181

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Eh, sorry for the confusion, but isn't that what they are doing now?

Now is pretty late, so much time and income wasted and the way they do it now is not the best imo . I'm not all negative though, they still have over 2 years to make the online shop a succes which could be important for gw2 sales.

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

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10 Jul 2007 at 14:53 - 182

A-Net could be making so much more money with the online shop, but they are completely fumbling the ball at the moment. Many people have bought the GoTY weapons - they're fun additions (even if incomplete), perfect to give heroes and to use on yourself.

And like previously suggested, think about how many people would buy a small mini-campaign if something like this was added. People who have finished everything on PvE side could have something to work for, maybe a green item drop at the end, 3-4 missions with a plot, say, for 10€ ? Or another weapon package like the GoTY - I'm sure there would be lots of buyers for this kinds of stuff. It won't break the game, but it would give the online store a perfect justification of being there. I mean, how many casual players are gonna buy PvP skill packs?

dsielschott

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

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W/Mo

10 Jul 2007 at 14:58 - 183

well if you REALLY want that fan art that you look at a few times and never look at again, or the book you may read half of, or a map poster that you throw away after awhile, then buy the box set. I know there are alot of people that actually want that stuff but now you have to make a decision box stuff or extra gaming stuff.....

I have a question about when it will be able to be purchased in the online store?

and also if you are having trouble with the fact you dont have a credit card or debit card to pay with, find a friend, relative, or parent to let you use their card. Just give them the $40 up front and use their card to buy your edition online.

and i agree with you~~~ Mordakia~~~. I would much rather buy from the store get my key before everyone else and still get a set of bonus missions instead of a box that I just store away somewhere.

Mordakai

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10 Jul 2007 at 14:58 - 184

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveller

A-Net could be making so much more money with the online shop, but they are completely fumbling the ball at the moment. Many people have bought the GoTY weapons - they're fun additions (even if incomplete), perfect to give heroes and to use on yourself.

And like previously suggested, think about how many people would buy a small mini-campaign if something like this was added. People who have finished everything on PvE side could have something to work for, maybe a green item drop at the end, 3-4 missions with a plot, say, for 10€ ? Or another weapon package like the GoTY - I'm sure there would be lots of buyers for this kinds of stuff.

Sure, but won't we have the same complaints we have now about the Bonus Missions?

If new content is going to be more common on the online store (and from what Gaile said in chatlog, it sounds like it will be), then Anet needs to work out a payment system that everyone can use.

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Originally Posted by dsielschott

I have a question about when it will be able to be purchased in the online store?

The Bonus Missions? Officially, not at this time. But as I've said, I suspect they will be made available (if they are popular) sometime after the promotion ends. (how's that for vague?)

The pre-release date should be announced shortly. Some sites said it will be available on July 20th, but that's looking less likely the closer we get.

GW:EN's official release is August 31. That's the only official date I know.

dsielschott

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W/Mo

10 Jul 2007 at 15:07 - 185

thank you for the answers

Gun Pierson

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10 Jul 2007 at 15:09 - 186

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

Sure, but won't we have the same complaints we have now about the Bonus Missions?

If new content is going to be more common on the online store (and from what Gaile said in chatlog, it sounds like it will be), then Anet needs to work out a payment system that everyone can use.

I think a lot of the complaints would be gone, if they started a year ago with those missions etc, it would be normal by now. The problem now is that it's linked with the 30$ you have to spend within a timeframe and the connection with gwen because nothing else is useful in the shop for a lot of peeps. And this creates the choice we have to make, the box version of gwen or buying it in the online shop.

I do agree with you about the payment system. I tested the shop with my bank card and it didn't work (maestro). So I ordered a credit card which costs me another 23 euro a year.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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10 Jul 2007 at 15:20 - 187

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

I think some of the complaints would be gone, if they started a year ago with those missions etc, it would be normal by now. The problem now is that it's linked with the 30$ you have to spend and the connection with gwen because nothing else is useful in the shop now. And this creates the choice we have to make, the box version of gwen or buying it in the online shop.

Anet was damned either way. Since this is the first time they've done something like this, there would be hate regardless (perhaps that's why I defend Anet a little too heartedly).

Anet has always said it was not going to nickle and dime us to death, as that is just another way of "pay to play"; and goes against their Chapter model.

So, if they just put the 4 Bonus Missions out there, for say, $10, there would be a lot of grief. Not only from the people who say they cannot access the store, but from people who would say that this is a form of pay to play.

By offering the Missions as a free bonus for those who shop the Online store, they circumvent the pay to play accusation, but now they have made people basically choose between buying GWEN online or in a physical store. (yes, I know you can spend the money on anything in the store, but the price point of $30, and the lack of other things to buy, screams GWEN).

There are no perfect solutions, but Guild Wars 2 is coming, Chapters are done, and it's unknown what the future payment plan will look like (well, except No Monthly Fees. That is a promise for Guild Wars 2).

So, I think now is the perfect time for Anet to perfect this strategy, while Guild Wars 2 is being developed.

Gun Pierson

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10 Jul 2007 at 15:28 - 188

I understand your point Mordakai and we both like the game and Anet, I'm more of a negative but constructive feedback type a guy. I don't see it as pay to play though. You can play without goty items which you agreed on in an earlier post. Same with coming missions. They're more like little expansions, you can play with or without them.

Pay to play to me is that you need to pay a monthly fee or you just can't play at all which is not the case in GW.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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10 Jul 2007 at 15:35 - 189

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

I understand your point Mordakai. I don't see it as pay to play though. You can play without goty items which you agreed on in an earlier post. Same with coming missions. They're more like little expansions, you're free to buy them or not and you can play with or without them.

Pay to play to me is that you need to pay a monthly fee or you just can't play at all which is not the case in GW.

I agree, but this is all about perception.

In hindsight, it probably would have been better to offer both the free Bonus Missions with $30 purchase deal and offer the missions for $10 (or whatever).

That way, people who want to buy the box and manual don't feel forced to choose. I guess the downside is: what if the missions aren't "worth" $10?!?

Neo Nugget

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10 Jul 2007 at 15:44 - 190

im gonna slightly annoyed if the missions

-take 3 hours
-take 15 min
-are boring
-same as a regular mission

But didnt it say there would be special drops somewhere int hat announcement?

CDittric77

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

A Famous Small Town in PA

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R/Mo

10 Jul 2007 at 15:47 - 191

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

I agree, but this is all about perception.

In hindsight, it probably would have been better to offer both the free Bonus Missions with $30 purchase deal and offer the missions for $10 (or whatever).

That way, people who want to buy the box and manual don't feel forced to choose. I guess the downside is: what if the missions aren't "worth" $10?!?

Another option is to quickly update the items offered in the store. If they give users a variety of options for in game purchases, then it is not linked to GWEN and we have to deal only with those that refuse to buy something online because they are desperately holding on to the twentieth century.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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10 Jul 2007 at 15:54 - 192

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

im gonna slightly annoyed if the missions

-take 3 hours
-take 15 min
-are boring
-same as a regular mission

But didnt it say there would be special drops somewhere int hat announcement?

This should be added to Gaile's front page post:

http://www.guildwars.com/press/missionpack/default.php

Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack Promotion

For a limited time, when you spend $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Official Guild Wars (online) Store, you will get a Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack for free!

The Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack will allow you to play through four pivotal moments in Guild Wars history. Earn unique rewards as you go face-to-face with Palawa Joko and his undead army as one of the key figures in the Battle of Jahai. Experience part of Cantha's turbulent past as you witness the violent Tengu Wars. Learn firsthand how the White Mantle rose to power in Kryta. And, finally, discover what became of Gwen after the Charr invaded her home and the Searing destroyed everything she'd ever known.

Gun Pierson

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Mo/

10 Jul 2007 at 15:54 - 193

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

I agree, but this is all about perception.

In hindsight, it probably would have been better to offer both the free Bonus Missions with $30 purchase deal and offer the missions for $10 (or whatever).

That way, people who want to buy the box and manual don't feel forced to choose. I guess the downside is: what if the missions aren't "worth" $10?!?

Indeed, to me sorrow's furnace is worth the 10$, I feel the same about two extra missions (one pack) at TOA like underworld and FOW. But like you say it's all about perception.

Imagine though there were 10 extra missions packs and 5 bonus weapons packs available at the store atm, together with some special hat + bag packs etc (no advantage in gameplay ofcourse), some (funny) emote + sound packs (farting etc) for 5$ or so. I think a lot of people would have bought them and Anet could have made 'some' money and the store would be popular.

Gli

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10 Jul 2007 at 15:57 - 194

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDittric77

Another option is to quickly update the items offered in the store. If they give users a variety of options for in game purchases, then it is not linked to GWEN and we have to deal only with those that refuse to buy something online because they are desperately holding on to the twentieth century.

Some of us will still have to deal with the fact that ANet is desperately holding on to a 20th century online payment mode.

dargon

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10 Jul 2007 at 16:58 - 195

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lankster24

Ok theres alot of posts in this thread and no time to read it can i just ask is Guildwars becoming pay to play pay or do we just have to pay for bonus addons. And does it also mean Guildwars One (Proph,Fact,Nightfall) will be updated with addons or will it be left to die once GW:2 is out.

The game is not becoming pay to play, nobody says you have to get the bonus mission pack, it's 4 missions, nothing serious and nothing that is going to give anyone a huge advantage, probably a few new green items that will rapidly find themselves on the market. This bonus is free, the main uproar is that it's free if you spend $29 in the online store during a certain date span, and unfortunately the store has a limited selection of items to buy. I myself don't need anything that is currently available in the store, I have plenty of character slots and I own every game, so the only thing I can do, if I want the bonus, is buy GW:EN through the online store when it comes out rather than at a B&M retailer who may or may not give me a better price. Nobody knows for sure what will exactly happen with GW once GW2 comes out, however it has been stated by several higher ups at ANet that GW will continue to be supported and there is still the possibility that more expansions like GW:EN will be released.

NORTICAT

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

10 Jul 2007 at 18:15 - 196

WOW....all i can say is WOW....so much tears and not a tissue in sight.

look..the fact of the matter is....if you want the extra missions you WILL FIND a way to get it.....whether it is by asking mummy or daddy to use the card and youll give them the money...or a friend...or a prepaid credit card...ive used one now for the last 6 months.

if Anet decide to offer this deal OUTSIDE in the stores...I want my money back for the three char I bought to get this pack....why is MY money worth less than yours?

the game is now 2 years old.

its been free to play for 2 years....you HAVE SAVED $359.76 in monthly fees(based of an average MMO model)

you have paid for three campaigns....$150...

now look at WoW...original boxed set $50 and then an expansion ANOTHER 50 dollars. so they pay to play AND PAY FOR EXPANSIONS....MISSIONS.

so technically you guys HAVE SAVED $359.76 over two years.....and now Anet ask for 29 bux for four missions?...geez get a grip...

the company will do what it can to stay VIABLE as a company...if they go broke...guess what happens? NO MORE FREE TO PLAY MMO!

cant believe the outrageous whining that goes on.

ANET DO NOT REPEAL THIS DECISION. I KNOW WHAT A COMPANY NEEDS TO DO. All this moaning is just a sympton of the new demographic of human being...I WANT EVERYTHING AND I DONT WANT TO PAY.

now that being said...just make sure that these missions come out in november.

cmdratz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Fruor Amicitia Conamen Effectus [FACE]

R/Mo

10 Jul 2007 at 18:26 - 197

Gail, Anet,
Your Bonus Pack certainly has my sincere interest. I do intend on buying Eye of the North. However, I must insist on the common decency of accepting a money order as prepayment through the online store, in order to use it. I would explain this stand further, but I must get ready for work now.

NORTICAT

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

10 Jul 2007 at 18:33 - 198

you guys DO know that WESTERN UNION....has a prepaid mastercard that is accepted in the GW store?

Western Union are pretty much worldwide.

i seriously didnt need an extra 3 char slots.....but maybe they will make good mules when GW: EN comes out?

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

10 Jul 2007 at 18:47 - 199

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTICAT

you guys DO know that WESTERN UNION....has a prepaid mastercard that is accepted in the GW store?

Western Union are pretty much worldwide.

Doesn't seem to be available outside the U.S. and is only accepted in a pathetically small number of countries. Try again.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

10 Jul 2007 at 18:52 - 200

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gli

Doesn't seem to be available outside the U.S. and is only accepted in a pathetically small number of countries. Try again.

Sorry but that is wrong, most major cities have Western union in the Uk through Royal Mail post offices