Which Army would win?
Lordhelmos
The evil bunnies will win, thats a given.
distilledwill
How many of those have infused armour? not many!
Definately Mursaat, with white mantle as meat shields.
Definately Mursaat, with white mantle as meat shields.
Free Runner
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What about the skales?
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All in all it comes down to the major forces - Abbadons Margonites + Torment Forces (Including Titans but not including Menzies or Dhuums forces), Mursaat + White Mantle and The Destroyers. Those 3 armies fighting would end with Destroyers last and Margonites + Torments first.
Artisan Archer
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Originally Posted by Free Runner
Skales cannot really be classed as much of an army. In this type of fight with the Margonites,Mursaat,Titans ect they are corpses for the Torment Armies minion master.
All in all it comes down to the major forces - Abbadons Margonites + Torment Forces (Including Titans but not including Menzies or Dhuums forces), Mursaat + White Mantle and The Destroyers. Those 3 armies fighting would end with Destroyers last and Margonites + Torments first. |
You could class them as a seperate army. And they would totally kick ass cause they will run and break aggro all the time, not giving anyone a chance to kill them.
General DS
Mursaat would loose. my and my friends did thunderhead keep in HM, with no infused armour. did bonus with no sweat. Spectral agony = pwn if your not prepared for it.
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by General DS
Mursaat would loose. my and my friends did thunderhead keep in HM, with no infused armour. did bonus with no sweat. Spectral agony = pwn if your not prepared for it.
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General DS
Well, we can assume if the armies were going to fight the mursaat, they would be prepared for spectral as well, thus owningthe mursaat
MasterSasori
Behold the hierarchy:
[ursan blessing] > Sabway/Imbagon/Godmode > The Shadow Army > Charr > The Mursaat > The Beatles > The Afflicted > The White Mantle > The Luxons = Kurzick > Goldfish > Kournans
[ursan blessing] > Sabway/Imbagon/Godmode > The Shadow Army > Charr > The Mursaat > The Beatles > The Afflicted > The White Mantle > The Luxons = Kurzick > Goldfish > Kournans
RavagerOfDreams
^incorrect
consumbales>[skill]Ursan Blessing[/skill]>sabway/imbagon/godmode
so whichever army has a spare 7k for a conset wins
consumbales>[skill]Ursan Blessing[/skill]>sabway/imbagon/godmode
so whichever army has a spare 7k for a conset wins
Calli
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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams
...so whichever army has a spare 7k for a conset wins...
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... or wipe themselves beforehand bickering over the order of said set(s) use.
Mark Nevermiss
I was doing a Gate too Far today for the heck of it, and stopped on the way to watch one Destroyer of Thoughts fight vs 3 Chromatic Drakes and win with half health left.
It seems to me that if any would rival the titans it would be the destroyers. The only thing going for the titans would be their transition into other forms upon death.
It seems to me that if any would rival the titans it would be the destroyers. The only thing going for the titans would be their transition into other forms upon death.
MasterSasori
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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams
^incorrect
consumbales>[skill]Ursan Blessing[/skill]>sabway/imbagon/godmode so whichever army has a spare 7k for a conset wins |
Leecher>Consumables>[Ursan blessing]>sabway/imbagon/godmode
Input much appreciated.
Konig Des Todes
I find it funny, this thread has gotten somehow to no player's influence to only players.
On someone who stays with the original. Titans have 3 things for them. 1)They change their physical appereance depending on the area. 2)They spawn smaller titans upon death. 3)They are infused*biggest thing*
Take out infusion, Mursaat would spectral agony everything, the only real challenges between the armies are Mursaat vs Titans vs Shiro'ken Vs Torment Demons Vs Junundu Vs Destroyers.
And how it goes in hierarchy is:
Titans>Mursaat>Torment Demons>Destroyers>Shiro'ken
With Junundu somewhere around Mursaat and Titans *they spawn Junundu Wail for rezing, it has to be massive AoE to take down an army of them.*
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Originally Posted by Mark Nevermiss
I was doing a Gate too Far today for the heck of it, and stopped on the way to watch one Destroyer of Thoughts fight vs 3 Chromatic Drakes and win with half health left.
It seems to me that if any would rival the titans it would be the destroyers. The only thing going for the titans would be their transition into other forms upon death. |
Take out infusion, Mursaat would spectral agony everything, the only real challenges between the armies are Mursaat vs Titans vs Shiro'ken Vs Torment Demons Vs Junundu Vs Destroyers.
And how it goes in hierarchy is:
Titans>Mursaat>Torment Demons>Destroyers>Shiro'ken
With Junundu somewhere around Mursaat and Titans *they spawn Junundu Wail for rezing, it has to be massive AoE to take down an army of them.*
AidinSwiftarrow
I'd say Mursaat probably...
Mark Nevermiss
I was doing a Gate too Far today for the heck of it, and stopped on the way to watch one Destroyer of Thoughts fight vs 3 Chromatic Drakes and win with half health left.
It seems to me that if any would rival the titans it would be the destroyers. The only thing going for the titans would be their transition into other forms upon death.
It seems to me that if any would rival the titans it would be the destroyers. The only thing going for the titans would be their transition into other forms upon death.
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by Mark Nevermiss
I was doing a Gate too Far today for the heck of it, and stopped on the way to watch one Destroyer of Thoughts fight vs 3 Chromatic Drakes and win with half health left.
It seems to me that if any would rival the titans it would be the destroyers. The only thing going for the titans would be their transition into other forms upon death. |
Taisayacho
I know it's not really an army, but throw together everything in the UW (so technically Dhuum's monsters, aren't they?) at once and you've got a lot of dead enemies.
Apart from that, I'd agree with Mursaat.
Apart from that, I'd agree with Mursaat.
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by Taisayacho
I know it's not really an army, but throw together everything in the UW (so technically Dhuum's monsters, aren't they?) at once and you've got a lot of dead enemies.
Apart from that, I'd agree with Mursaat. |
Taisayacho
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Originally Posted by Free Runner
Not everything in there is Dhumms Army. The Terrorwebs,Dream Riders and some of the quest monsters (such as The Slayer) are Dhumms. Everything else is just out of control (eg Aatxe).
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Lishy
RAians with their /report>Anything
Their new hex "Dishonorable" will leave you in a state were you simply cannot do ANYTHING zomg!
Their new hex "Dishonorable" will leave you in a state were you simply cannot do ANYTHING zomg!
Mist Walker Skarloc
I can't find the post I want because this thread of full of idiots like the guy above me, who aren't giving any useful input and filled most of the pages.
Anyway, someone said it would either be margonites or torment demons. Shouldn't it be margonites AND torment demons because they're both followers of Abaddon? It's like saying the SAS would beat the Royal Marines. They wouldn't, they're on the same team.
Anyway, my vote would lie with titans/margonites/torment demons/anyone else under Abaddon's command. He attacked the other 5 gods and managed to beat 2 of them for a reason - he is the most powerful. (Disregard the fact you kill him ingame by slashing away at his chin, nothing that happens ingame really makes sense).
Edit: However, I expect this will change in GW2. The dragons are probably going to be more powerful than Abaddon. They might not necessarily have armies, however, so Abaddon (a god) + his army of titans + his army of margonites + his army of torment demons + his army of Kournans following Varesh could be able to kill a dragon.
Anyway, someone said it would either be margonites or torment demons. Shouldn't it be margonites AND torment demons because they're both followers of Abaddon? It's like saying the SAS would beat the Royal Marines. They wouldn't, they're on the same team.
Anyway, my vote would lie with titans/margonites/torment demons/anyone else under Abaddon's command. He attacked the other 5 gods and managed to beat 2 of them for a reason - he is the most powerful. (Disregard the fact you kill him ingame by slashing away at his chin, nothing that happens ingame really makes sense).
Edit: However, I expect this will change in GW2. The dragons are probably going to be more powerful than Abaddon. They might not necessarily have armies, however, so Abaddon (a god) + his army of titans + his army of margonites + his army of torment demons + his army of Kournans following Varesh could be able to kill a dragon.
Free Runner
Not sure if your talking about one of my posts - i said somewere that it would all come down to the Margonites + Torment Demons and Titans vs Mursaat. In the end Abaddon owns half the forces in the game so he would win in a huge fight.
Konig Des Todes
It was both Free Runner and Myself, of course I originally said the "Evil God Alliance" of Abaddon, Dhuum, and Menzies, as they own over half of the armies, and nearly all of the armies in the elite areas.
Yuhe Ji
I think it would be kinda a no-contest if Abaddon, Dhuum, and Menzies are all together (if base defenders don't count). Maybe we should try splitting them up a bit? Like Margonites, Shadow Army, and Torment Demons.
Mist Walker Skarloc
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Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji
I think it would be kinda a no-contest if Abaddon, Dhuum, and Menzies are all together (if base defenders don't count). Maybe we should try splitting them up a bit? Like Margonites, Shadow Army, and Torment Demons.
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What I still don't understand, though, is why Dhuum has his army. Grenth took his godhead, would the terrorweb dryders and his other followers not worship their new master? My only idea is that they are fighting against Grenth either for revenge or to get him to a weak position from which Dhuum can reclaim his power (I assume Dhuum is currently a demon, or some other non-god form).
On a side note, doesn't it seem rather ridiculous how we managed to complete Nightfall with the only significant injury being Kormir's eyes being eaten? (And nobody likes her, anyway).
Think about it, think about all the people Abaddon commands. At Gate of Madness, Abaddon could have sent The Lich and Shiro with his entire margonite army, his entire torment army, every single titan, all the Shiro'ken, all the afflicted, the entire shadow army, every single terrorweb dryder, the entire undead horde (the undead in Kryta, not in the Desolation) and possibly some Kournans that sneaked into the Realm of Torment along with Dhuum and Menzies himself.
Who wins, 3 players and some heroes or them?
Shadowmere
Keep in mind that for the most part when we go through the Realm of Torment we're usually just running between "safe zones" enforced by the forgotten, really most of the enemies we faced there were patrols. Essentially we were fighting a guerilla war against Abbadon at that point, sending small groups out to sabatoge and kill specific targets. That and we were all lightbringers, I personally think that lore wise that title gave us more power over Abbadons forces than the in game bonuses would have us believe.
Konig Des Todes
As Shadowmere said, we used guerilla tactics against Abaddon, so we wouldn't get many casualties. Also, we have rezes so deaths are then saved 
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As for the Dhuum issue you brought up, either Dhuum created those demons after his fall, meaning he is now a demi-god. That, or those demons are really devout to Dhuum instead of Grenth, which wouldn't be that shocking.
.As for the Dhuum issue you brought up, either Dhuum created those demons after his fall, meaning he is now a demi-god. That, or those demons are really devout to Dhuum instead of Grenth, which wouldn't be that shocking.
Horus
Underworl creatures would pwn em all gogogo (Vegneful) Aatxe's
gogogo (Vegneful) Aatxe's
Mark Nevermiss
Hord of Darkness, Kanaxai aspects have semi-invincible mode on and would probably kill everything in game.
Monkey Slayer
Horde of Darkness ftw. The Mursaat are ok. Pretty sure Dhuum would come in a close second though.
deya
Dhuum > all, those nasty dryders just nukes the shit out of entire armies and I don't remember engaging obsi tanks in PvE!
Sutech Specter
What about the Undead? They can't die. "How do you kill that which has no life?"
illidan009
Aight...since there are no player involvement with Lux/Kurz, they are just humans...not that good. Shiro'ken, provided Shiro wasn't banished forever yet, would win, because Shiro Tagachi is a BEAST!!
Hmm...after reading all the other posts, I guess Abbadon would win out of sheer numbers... *sigh* I'm still rooting for Shiro :P
Hmm...after reading all the other posts, I guess Abbadon would win out of sheer numbers... *sigh* I'm still rooting for Shiro :P
Konig Des Todes
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Aight...since there are no player involvement with Lux/Kurz, they are just humans...not that good. Shiro'ken, provided Shiro wasn't banished forever yet, would win, because Shiro Tagachi is a BEAST!!
Hmm...after reading all the other posts, I guess Abbadon would win out of sheer numbers... *sigh* I'm still rooting for Shiro :P |
Kavadas
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Which Army would win?
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MartynThompson
canthan military
or kurzicks
or kurzicks
Artisan Archer
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Originally Posted by Free Runner
Skales cannot really be classed as much of an army. In this type of fight with the Margonites,Mursaat,Titans ect they are corpses for the Torment Armies minion master.
All in all it comes down to the major forces - Abbadons Margonites + Torment Forces (Including Titans but not including Menzies or Dhuums forces), Mursaat + White Mantle and The Destroyers. Those 3 armies fighting would end with Destroyers last and Margonites + Torments first. |
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer
But they DO have their own god.
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Free Runner
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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer
But they DO have their own god.
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I would also like to point out that the god, Moa'vu'Kaal, the Istan Skales worshipped was actually given his power by Abaddon. Meaning the thing the skales worshiped was probably on the same...scale as one of Abaddons common Margonites.
Gmr Leon
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Originally Posted by Free Runner
I would also like to point out that the god, Moa'vu'Kaal, the Istan Skales worshipped was actually given his power by Abaddon. Meaning the thing the skales worshiped was probably on the same...scale as one of Abaddons common Margonites.
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