Which Army would win?

Shiro, Lich and Shadow army belong to Abbaddon

I think the ice imps would destroy everyone because they would snare everyone before they got to them snd or mind freeze spike you....<_<

I'm sorry but for the purposes of this thread, Shiro has his own army, as does the lich. The shadow army belongs to Menzies, not Abbaddon. Just because they fought with him, does not make them his.

Shiro's army do belong to abaddon because Abaddon gave shiro those powers

I think the Titans would be the best bet in a giant battle. Although, without any sort of layout of a battlefield it's hard to say. It's also hard to speculate without knowing what the actual numbers are.

Although, I'd think that the Kurzicks and Luxons would probably team up again if they realized quickly that they were pretty much screwed if they stood by themselves. (I'm pretty sure that, alone, they're the weak links in a giant battle. They're extremely easy to kill minus the juggernauts and turtles which take slightly more effort)

In fact i think the only way any of the armies could defeat the titans would have to be if they teamed up with at least one other force for some reason, seeing as how the titans probably wouldn't turn to anyone for help. (I'm just assuming this because they seem like they'd be very stuck up about how powerful they think they are.)

Yes but unless Abbadon is leading Shiro's army directly, ti does not matter where shiro got his powers.

So really your setting rules to the battle like:

1. Each army is alone (for instance Shiros Army would not be linked with Abaddons)
2. Each armys special ablities are taken away (Mursaat lose Spectral Agony,Torment Demons lose Call to the Torment ect)


In that case my answer for who would win is Abaddons Army win (Not including Shiro or The Lich). He has Torment Demons,Margonites and Titans all in one. Palawa Jokos Army before their defeat would be my second choice.

shiro no doubt that guy is a psycho+ The man is a envoy wich means he get unlimited supply of warriors, by reaping the souls from the mists and creating either Bound shiro'ken or affilifacted. In war numbers allways count.

Very true that numbers count. That is why money still lies with the undead forces. They have access to warriors who have just died and what not, so they would have an advantage there.

Charr Would Win, because They are Teh Leet =]

i'd go for palawa joko and his undead we dont even know what skills or how powerful oure undead joko is

plus i like him cause he insults Zhed

If we're removing monster-only abilities, I think people are underestimating Glint's Forgotten - especially if they get Crystal Spiders/Guardians along with appropriate elites. Heck, the Spiders and Guardians are dangerous enough even without elites until you get used to them, and Enchanted Bows have that nasty "we'll Daze you then blind you, now whatcha gonna do?" combination. (I know Afflicted Rangers can pull off that combo as well, but they just didn't seem to be as good at it as the Enchanted Bows.)

One of the Human armys would Win, after all it only took 8 humans to take down a god. (Imagine what an army of humans could do!) Of Which the Battle hardened Ascalon Army or its Far Shiverpeak offshoot would probally be the strongest Army (since they are highly experienced and battle hardened) although the Luxons with there impressive Seige machinary would give them a run for their money.

8 humans to kill a god..... That is just a legend they made up for the kids at bedtime, seeing as though it takes like 13 people from the Ascalon army just to kill a Charr...Glint's Forgotten would have a big chance though, with their combined powers.

If it's an option, I vote for Mallyx and the Lords of Anguish. I honestly think they would mow down everyone else. If that's not choose-able, I believe the Charr would just overwhelm everyone else with sheer numbers. Maybe even have some mages in the back conjuring another Searing. I don't think that's possible though, as I remember Bonfaaz Burntfur as one of the overseers of the searing, and he's sorta dead..

Charr FTW! ^^

I think the afflicted would win, if we go by game stats.

The explosion thing would take out the opponent even after death, and it is armor ignoring as well. The more you kill them, the more they hurt you. How many of those army's monk got protective spirit anyway? The army with protective spirit probably win.

If we add in story elements too, anyone who fought afflicted and die, also turn into afflicted. It is endless.

You people discount the shadow army alot considering how much aoe they have (and that we r not counting monster skills(?)). Hell, the eles in DoA even have meteor shower and sf. Rangers with barrage, wars with 100 blades.....the mesmers in nf have lots of anti melee and shatter ench (theres goes prot spirit) and the monks have WoH so any more than 1 are a pain in the butt to kill. They even have those evil necs with either ss or depravity draining everyones energy (learned that from fighting the mob on the way to farahlon). the abyssals r a pain (killing a caster in 3 hits as it says on wiki) with all the kd and the deep wound. they even have an aoe kd! Also, they have Menzies behind them, a kickass half-brother of balthazar who is most likely as powerful as seen as they r still fighting in FoW. although there is a slight lack of bosses the greater darkness and the darkness make up with their lvl 30ness and nasty armor ignoring aoe dmg and energy drain. in short, they have enough aoe to take out a huge number of foes and relatively good survival (iway on wars/WoH). even if you dont think they could win, they are certainly a strong contender.

Shiroken or maybe afflicted... just the amount of them. otherwise Abbadon would come, someone would dance, everyone would die.