Which Army would win?
Woop Shotty
It's my theory that Wurms and Aloe Seeds have already been having a massive war underground, out of our view, for a very long time.
Randvek
I say the Mursaat beat everything. Nothing in your list is infused, that that's what it takes to top the Mursaat.
Kwisatz_Haderach
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The junundu! Because taking down 100 wurms constantly spamming junundu wail would be hell.
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/doublesigned
/triplesigned
so true
Yuhe Ji
Base defense will still take down those wurms! Or the Norn becoming the bear and using the AoE knockdowns.
Fangclaw
Whats wrong with everyone ?!?
I said NORN, do the Norn use Ursan Blessing? No...
Mursaat >>> All Unfortunately...
I said NORN, do the Norn use Ursan Blessing? No...
Mursaat >>> All Unfortunately...
Shiing!
Junundu > Mursaat ... They have 3,000 health and Wail ffs.. lol
Fangclaw
Wish I knew that... Im probably the only one in the whole forums that doesnt have nightfall... 
Eldin
Mursaat > All
Titans > Mursaat
Yet somehow Us > Titans, wouldn't that make us Us > Mursaat?
Oh wait...exactly...
US > ALL!
Titans > Mursaat
Yet somehow Us > Titans, wouldn't that make us Us > Mursaat?
Oh wait...exactly...
US > ALL!
xshadowwolfx
Guilds (us) > Margonite Armies > Mursaat Armies > Shadow Armies > Destroyer Armies > Demon Armies > Human Armies > Charr Armies > Stone Summit > Dwarven Armies > Norn Armies > Undead Armies > Tengu Armies
Before anyone says wurms or titans again remember that we are talking about armies thus tactics, organization, and numbers count. Wurms and Titans seem to lack that without masters and though incredibly strong individually fail in an all out war.
Guilds are us and we win.
Mursaat are powerful enough to be compared with gods but lack in numbers and commanders. Look instead at the margonites, they have just as strong soldiers if not stronger along with tougher bosses and a better chain of command.
Shadow armies get credit for being direct servants of a fallen god and the ability to wage an eternal and immortal war with another god. Destroyers serve the dragons that rival the gods and are very well organized though they fell to the norn, they will be back and stronger than ever as their masters awaken. Demon armies of the deep fall slightly short.
Thankfully for humans, all of the above armies are sealed away somewhere and in their prime the human armies reign supreme. They would have easily crushed they adversaries had they not been weakened from interfighting. Evidence of this is in the ease in which humans have populated Tyria and crushed the forgotten and managed to push all other species away. In the future Cantha becomes a military giant and crushes all the Tengu and forcibily unites the Kurzicks and Luxons under the banner of the dragon.
The Charr are close by because they are strong, organized, and numerous. They managed to crush the dominate humans. Though the humans were weakened to flood the continent with blood is no small feat. Falling short of the Charr are the ruthless stone summit which are unquestionably stronger than the delmor dwarves who are too soft. The dwarves too are too few in number to overcome the tides of the Charr though their stone form is pretty tough.
Norn were told in lore to be greater than the Charr but could have been easily defeated by the Charr due to numbers and organization. Individualism doesn't help when facing armies of thousands. Undead are tough but also weak. Meh.
Tengu are even weaker though as they couldn't even bring one human nation down to its knees. Cantha was fine to an extend where as LA nearly fell to the undead.
Before anyone says wurms or titans again remember that we are talking about armies thus tactics, organization, and numbers count. Wurms and Titans seem to lack that without masters and though incredibly strong individually fail in an all out war.
Guilds are us and we win.
Mursaat are powerful enough to be compared with gods but lack in numbers and commanders. Look instead at the margonites, they have just as strong soldiers if not stronger along with tougher bosses and a better chain of command.Shadow armies get credit for being direct servants of a fallen god and the ability to wage an eternal and immortal war with another god. Destroyers serve the dragons that rival the gods and are very well organized though they fell to the norn, they will be back and stronger than ever as their masters awaken. Demon armies of the deep fall slightly short.
Thankfully for humans, all of the above armies are sealed away somewhere and in their prime the human armies reign supreme. They would have easily crushed they adversaries had they not been weakened from interfighting. Evidence of this is in the ease in which humans have populated Tyria and crushed the forgotten and managed to push all other species away. In the future Cantha becomes a military giant and crushes all the Tengu and forcibily unites the Kurzicks and Luxons under the banner of the dragon.
The Charr are close by because they are strong, organized, and numerous. They managed to crush the dominate humans. Though the humans were weakened to flood the continent with blood is no small feat. Falling short of the Charr are the ruthless stone summit which are unquestionably stronger than the delmor dwarves who are too soft. The dwarves too are too few in number to overcome the tides of the Charr though their stone form is pretty tough.
Norn were told in lore to be greater than the Charr but could have been easily defeated by the Charr due to numbers and organization. Individualism doesn't help when facing armies of thousands. Undead are tough but also weak. Meh.
Tengu are even weaker though as they couldn't even bring one human nation down to its knees. Cantha was fine to an extend where as LA nearly fell to the undead.
Eldin
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Falling short of the Charr are the ruthless stone summit which are unquestionably stronger than the delmor dwarves who are too soft.
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The dwarves too are too few in number to overcome the tides of the Charr though their stone form is pretty tough.
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English Warrior
The Luxons simply would pwn all we have the turtles screw abbadon we shall fire and make him dance.
killress
Unless the others are infused, Mursaat!
Alex the Great
in a pitched fight the titans ( abbadon) would own all, because we only fight 2-3 at a time, and we are organized to attack one at a time and his spawns. imagine a huge fight that involved killing a bunch of titans. Then imagine 2x that many titans spawning.
Songbringer
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Originally Posted by Qual
Mursaat, I bet that the others are not infused, so GG
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Dwarves are infused.
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AnkurP992
Well if all the human armies fought eachother, Dragon army no contest (canthan) The guide book said they have the strongest army in the world
Eldin
The Dragon army is funded quite well, and will be even better by GW2, though they aren't very concentrated. At least, from what we've seen, mostly Lvl 20 warriors wandering around trying to solo mobs of Am Fah.
The Kournans are pretty formidable aside from their current lack of a leader. They were only like Lvl 16 in NF, but that's moreso just because we were lower levelled at the time.
The Kournans are pretty formidable aside from their current lack of a leader. They were only like Lvl 16 in NF, but that's moreso just because we were lower levelled at the time.
Konig Des Todes
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The Dragon army is funded quite well, and will be even better by GW2, though they aren't very concentrated. At least, from what we've seen, mostly Lvl 20 warriors wandering around trying to solo mobs of Am Fah.
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Monk Gsb
if inner fire would work then destoryers > all
Konig Des Todes
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if inner fire would work then destoryers > all
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Inner fire=+30 hp a sec
Agonizing Touch*or whatever the mursaat monster skill is called*=-100hp and - 9 hp degen per second to uninfused monsters.
Destroyers vs Mursaat
Winner: Mursaat
In fact the only two things that can stand against an army Mursaat is an army of Junudu Wurms *with their wail* and an army of Titans.
beregond
Grawl ftw!!!11!
Ok, jk...I'd say either the titans, or the Mursaat, or possibly the Junundu.
Ok, jk...I'd say either the titans, or the Mursaat, or possibly the Junundu.
Lishy
I think your forgetting that the Centaur command the Junundu.
So they DO have tactics.
So they DO have tactics.
Konig Des Todes
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I think your forgetting that the Centaur command the Junundu.
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Vvarden Ok Raden
The Mursaat would begin to win b/c of their Spectral Agony, but once all the armies fought for Infusion, I believe it would be down to the Undead Servents of Joko! ahhah!
Monk In The Box
Destroyers and Mursaat
Destroyers-Amazing dmg, Extraordinary health.
Mursaat-Spectral Agony.
Destroyers-Amazing dmg, Extraordinary health.
Mursaat-Spectral Agony.
zling
it really depends how you divide the armies...
if you go pre-nightfall than you have a rather clear picture. when you include nightfall suddenly everything is mixed up with abbadon.
now lets not take huge armies such as shiro's entire army, abbadon's etc but rather sub armies.
so Torment Demons and Margonites are 2 different armies, hypothetically fighting each other...
in that case I think the Titans will win. the Mursaat are affraid of them, the Lich is(was) leading them and they're tough creatures that keep on breaking down to smaller creatures when dead. Mursaat come up second, assuming they deal with the Titans somehow nobody else can beat their spectral agony and other goodies...
if you go pre-nightfall than you have a rather clear picture. when you include nightfall suddenly everything is mixed up with abbadon.
now lets not take huge armies such as shiro's entire army, abbadon's etc but rather sub armies.
so Torment Demons and Margonites are 2 different armies, hypothetically fighting each other...
in that case I think the Titans will win. the Mursaat are affraid of them, the Lich is(was) leading them and they're tough creatures that keep on breaking down to smaller creatures when dead. Mursaat come up second, assuming they deal with the Titans somehow nobody else can beat their spectral agony and other goodies...
Drews0
To list the armies I'm considering:
Nightmare Horde = Kanaxai > Kanaxai Demons > Outcasts
Echovald Guardians = Urgoz > Urgoz Minions > Wardens
Mursaat Army = Mursaat > White Mantle
Shiros Army = Shiro > Shiro'ken > Afflicted
Abbadons Surface Army = Varesh > Margonites > Kournans
The Shadow Army = Menzies > Shadow Army
Undead Army = Undead Lich > Undead Soldiers
The Sunspears = Kormir > Sunspear Troops
The Zaishan
Deldrimor Dwarves > King Jalis Ironhammer > Deldrimor Dwarves
Destroyers
Asura Norn and Charr
Now then: Considering the loyalties of each side: the Zaishen would ally with Sunspears. Therefore the 2 arguable most tactical groups are allied. There numbers are probably then about the same as the other groups, and their tactics better. The Deldrimor Dwarves would transform themselves thanks to their God. The Asura are already allied with the Dwarves and some Norn. Therefore I would say this would be the order:
Abbadon's Demons > Zaishen & Sunspears > Destroyers > Asura and Deldrimor > all other factions armies > All other Elona > all Tyria.
There ya go... bit rushed at the end
Oh and the Dragons Will PWN.
Nightmare Horde = Kanaxai > Kanaxai Demons > Outcasts
Echovald Guardians = Urgoz > Urgoz Minions > Wardens
Mursaat Army = Mursaat > White Mantle
Shiros Army = Shiro > Shiro'ken > Afflicted
Abbadons Surface Army = Varesh > Margonites > Kournans
The Shadow Army = Menzies > Shadow Army
Undead Army = Undead Lich > Undead Soldiers
The Sunspears = Kormir > Sunspear Troops
The Zaishan
Deldrimor Dwarves > King Jalis Ironhammer > Deldrimor Dwarves
Destroyers
Asura Norn and Charr
Now then: Considering the loyalties of each side: the Zaishen would ally with Sunspears. Therefore the 2 arguable most tactical groups are allied. There numbers are probably then about the same as the other groups, and their tactics better. The Deldrimor Dwarves would transform themselves thanks to their God. The Asura are already allied with the Dwarves and some Norn. Therefore I would say this would be the order:
Abbadon's Demons > Zaishen & Sunspears > Destroyers > Asura and Deldrimor > all other factions armies > All other Elona > all Tyria.
There ya go... bit rushed at the end
Oh and the Dragons Will PWN.
Yuhe Ji
Well as it appears that most of our enemies came from Abaddon, his army would probably destroy everything else. I guess his army includes the Lich with the titans, Shiro with the Shiroken, Margonites, torment, etc. But if we include all the ingame skills and qualities, the Luxon and Kurzicks would be tied. Not even Spectral Agony can kill them. Those base defenders would just mow everything down with base defense.
GourangaPizza
Don't know about victorious armies, but I do know that if Abaddon win, he will bring about new delicacies to the world. (E.g. Deep fried eyeballs, Eyeballs kabob, Pickled eyeballs with melted cheese)
Free Runner
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Well as it appears that most of our enemies came from Abaddon, his army would probably destroy everything else. I guess his army includes the Lich with the destroyers, Shiro with the Shiroken, Margonites, torment, etc.
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Konig Des Todes
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I guess his army includes the Lich with the destroyers, Shiro with the Shiroken, Margonites, torment, etc.
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But Abaddon besically controls the main enemies of Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall, only enemy armies he doesn't control are *from prophecies* the mursaat/white mantel, charr, forgotten; *from factions* Urgoz+wardens, Kanaxai+demons; *from nightfall*harpies/hekets, which are not even that big of a army as it is.
Also, there is the fact that Abaddon had an alliance with Dhuum and Menzies, so those 3 would be working together, and therefore would have a HUGE army if ever combined. Only thing that could stop them would be mursaat, but just send the Titans on them and bye bye.
Yuhe Ji
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Uhhhh.... Me thinks you need to redo Prophecies.
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Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji
I meant that since the lich controlled the titans, and Abaddon controlled the lich... the titans are sortta under Abaddon.
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Maya Aimi
The Norn will win because we all know Ursan pwned everything
Yuhe Ji
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
I know what you meant, but Titans are not Destroyers. Thats what I meant.
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Konig Des Todes
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The Norn will win because we all know Ursan pwned everything
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aleaf92
Prince Rurik and his valiant men. They are win.
matsif
prince rurik is a failure, just watch him in the missions...he fails so badly his dad won't even listen to him.
mursaat win because of spectral agony and no infusion on others.
if there was infusion, torment demons win because of call to the torment. they can just endlessly divide and create numbers greater than the other armies, while still being immensely powerful.
mursaat win because of spectral agony and no infusion on others.
if there was infusion, torment demons win because of call to the torment. they can just endlessly divide and create numbers greater than the other armies, while still being immensely powerful.
Mark Nevermiss
Spectral Agony is strong, yes but only when targets have 500-700 hp.
Against titans its totally useless.
Against torment creatures it will only create "Call to the Torment" duplicates.
Against destroyers with their high health and Inner Fire supposedly now fixed, not to mention their high damage, it will fail too I expect.
Against Aataxes... well LOL
I expect it to fail against Awakened creatures as well.
Dinosaurs of all kinds will rip the Mursaat to shreds with Twisting Jaws.
Jotuns and other giants spamming Giant Stomp also have a fair chance of defeating the Mursaat.
I could probably name a few more.
Against titans its totally useless.
Against torment creatures it will only create "Call to the Torment" duplicates.
Against destroyers with their high health and Inner Fire supposedly now fixed, not to mention their high damage, it will fail too I expect.
Against Aataxes... well LOL
I expect it to fail against Awakened creatures as well.
Dinosaurs of all kinds will rip the Mursaat to shreds with Twisting Jaws.
Jotuns and other giants spamming Giant Stomp also have a fair chance of defeating the Mursaat.
I could probably name a few more.
Konig Des Todes
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mursaat win because of spectral agony and no infusion on others.
if there was infusion, torment demons win because of call to the torment. they can just endlessly divide and create numbers greater than the other armies, while still being immensely powerful. |
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Spectral Agony is strong, yes but only when targets have 500-700 hp.
Against titans its totally useless. Against torment creatures it will only create "Call to the Torment" duplicates. Against destroyers with their high health and Inner Fire supposedly now fixed, not to mention their high damage, it will fail too I expect. Against Aataxes... well LOL I expect it to fail against Awakened creatures as well. Dinosaurs of all kinds will rip the Mursaat to shreds with Twisting Jaws. Jotuns and other giants spamming Giant Stomp also have a fair chance of defeating the Mursaat. I could probably name a few more. |
Titans=Titans
Torment Demons=Mursaat *torment demons take double dmg when using Call of Torment, thats 200 dmg per second and Call of Torment is used once lower then 50% health, ouch*
Destroyers=Mursaat or Tie *Inner Fire=+30 hp per sec, Spectal Agony=-100hp and -9 degen per second*
Aatxes=only Vengful Aatxes will stand a chance, but Mursaat are smart and will kill the leaders, killing the Aatxes.
Awakened*aka undead*=Mursaat
Dinosaurs=Mursaat *won't get close enough*
Jotuns=Mursaat *one giant stomp then dead*
Few more? Only ones are Titans and Junundu that will slaughter Mursaat, any others will only "stand a chance."
Artisan Archer
What about the skales?