GWeN Map looks huge - pics

those gloves are awesome!:-) maybe my war can get a pair, ill make them stonefist gloves ;p

It seems to me they can link with propehcies outposts at Beatletun and Yaks Bend. At Yaks Bend the road toward the north already exists, but its blocked by yaks at the moment. It wouldnt be hard to implement a "Guard" you have to talk to at the gate to pass through to the other side - so they could easily stop non-prophecies chars getting in prophecies.

I would very much appreciate being able to walk to the Charr areas and the Northern Shiverpeaks if I want to - not just be teleported there...

can u use textmod to look at the areas? it should work on the map as it does on the other continents

If you look at the map where GW:EN areas are close to Prophecies areas, you see the fog that I consider "Elonian," wherein it looks like a heavily fogged version of the eventual map when you explore it (Tyria and Cantha have the generic montage that gets stripped away, but gives you no clue of terrain beforehand). For the demonstration, I doubt it was necessary to have an active link with Prophecies, and since he was rolling cheats, I'm sure he could "skip ahead" to further in the storyline.

My point is this: the foggy area between Iron Horse Mine and the Norn territory is definitely another explorable. South Ascalon beyond Regent Valley is definitely another explorable. And the Ullen River actually looks LESS fogged than before, so I think there's a possibility of a mission pack or some-such in that area (run across the Mursaat homeland with Saul D'Alessio).

The Wizard's Tower is one of my favorite locations, if only because you can't get to it directly. It seems like GW:EN is removing the "no exploring in buildings" thing that all other campaigns have been limited to (considering you have your own explorable Hall of Monuments, and that whole Eye of the North thing), and in the process adding story tie-in's to let you visit some of those previously unexplorable places.

One last note: has anyone noticed that the area of land between the sunken Orr and the Crystal Desert has changed? I know it's barely a cosmetic change, but it makes me wonder...

EDIT: Finally got a look at the full high-res one, plus remembered a couple other things. In Prophecies, the Mursaat homeland was HEAVILY implied to be along the Ullen River. The Tarnished Coast may be south of it, but I get the feeling that the Mursaat still chilled out in the fogged area between Tangle Root and Riverside Province.

Also, there are a few "locked doors" I've seen in Tyria while exploring anywhere, some making zero sense at all. One is in Tasca's Demise, the standard Stone Summit door, shut. Another is on the far left border of Diessa Lowlands, a solid metal door in the middle of ruins (makes no sense).

The re-texture of the entire map in the Elonian style gives the possibility of more area in the following places:
-Above Yaks Bend/Iron Horse Mine
-Above Deldrimor Bowl and left of Anvil Rock
-North of Dragon's Gullet
-South of Regent Valley
-East of the Ruins of Surmia
-East of the Eastern Frontier
-East of Thirsty River

Finally, Orr and its connecting peninsula are not just different colors, but textured differently. I'm not going to say "uncoverable," because the texture is wrong for that, but I get the feeling that ANet is going to take this Mission Pack idea to the next level.

Hmmm. The dungeons sound cool, but the above-ground areas seem a bit small. Will we be able to expect more zones above-ground from those shown in the preview map or is that it?

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On the dungeons... don't forget... all new traps and secret doors... spelunking at its best

I would imagine there are numerous portals to dungeons all over the place... They did mention at E3 that the Asura were known for their magic abilities and to travel between the vast areas in GWEN...

Yes it would be nice to have the maps not darken when leaving like SF... for 18 dungeons... this would be a pain.... esp multi levels... Hmmm another E3 tidbit... there are "pickups" in dungeons that possibly help on the mapping aspect (very secretive comment on this one)... so I am guessing.. maybe just maybe... we can find cavern maps that will at least stop the map from blacking out once you leave...

Has anyone noticed in the vids that the group sizes are usually around 4 players (not including Allies)...

What about 1 on 1 arenas? I know there is the Norn fight but it would kick Asura to be able to challenge 1 on 1 using your current skill set/weapons/armor based on your class/level to another human...

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GWEN = Dawn of the underappreciated Mesmers

The map does seem quite small, very true but Anet have been going on about "underground dungeons" so much in the press releases so it wouldn't surprise me if 50%(or more) of the map we see is doubled up in underground destinations.

i hate those black bars...

*Sigh*
The Charr land...
It is.. so small. honestly, I love the Charr. They are my favourite race in Guild Wars, and I plan on using them in guild wars 2. I'm disappointed that the Charr lands is barely anything. Honestly, I would have liked Eye of the North to focus a lot more on the Charr, but oh well. At least they are in it.

One thing I noticed is that the "100% map' I downloaded - if it is 100% I am not sure - has this huge area above Kryta, and only a tiny square is explorable. Wait - wha? I hope that is not the full map, because it does seem quite small. Of course, there are the dungeons.

As for the snow area - wow. It is.. big. Again, i would have prefered more green pastures, whether it be Charr land or the Tarnished Coast.

I do think they would have a very big map because they have new races and underground stuff

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If you watch the onlineweltern videos the guy plays in a burning forest, when he goes to map out, pause it and you'll see thats the general area where his character is. Now based on the black earth and red foilage there I am guessing...hey...its on fire. Looks small I know, but considering its proximity to a zone I will further assume there's a mission/dungeon which is a burning forest.

Still ... it doesn't look so small