More terribad preorder items

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

W/

Taken from EBgames:


- Glacial Blade Cold damage: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship)Damage +15% (While Enchanted) Special Note: This item can be upgraded with a Sword Pommel

- Darksteel Longbow - Piercing damage: 15-28 (Requires 9 Marksmanship) Armor penetration +20% (Chance: 20%) Damage +15% Energy -5 Special Note: This item can be upgraded with a Bow Grip

- Hourglass Staff Energy +15 Fire damage: 11-22 (Requires 9 Divine Favor)Fire damage: 11-22 (Requires 9 Fast Casting)Fire damage: 11-22 (Requires 9 Soul Reaping) Fire damage: 11-22 (Requires 9 Energy Storage) Fire damage: 11-22 (Requires 9 Spawning Power) Halves skill recharge of spells (Chance: 20%) Halves casting time of spells (Chance: 10%) Health +45 (While Enchanted) Special Note: This item cannot be upgraded

So you get two completely useless items since they're uninscribable and then a spiritbinder for all classes.

hoo-ray?

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Well, let's wait 'til we see the skin to start whining.

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

W/

Because skin is more important than stats?

lollll

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

Yeh; the skins are supposedly a few skins whom won the design a weapon contest. ;-) So, they're guarenteed to rawk.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

We've known these stats for a few days.

I don't see the problem. They're not THAT bad, the sword can at least have a pommel attached. They're pretty much the same as most of the other bonus weapons we get, not great, but pretty useful for starting new characters and giving to Heroes.

What were you expecting? Perfect Max Greens?

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

N/

Just because an item is not inscribable does not mean it is useless. Yeesh. Plus I think the staff stats are just fine for most people.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Rawk? Right. It's gonna rock your world even more when nearly EVERYBODY is using them.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

The sword is great for a conjure warrior, but the rest are useless crap.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Selket
Because skin is more important than stats?

lollll
Pretty much. You'd have to be retarded to expect them to give you the weapon that would coincidently match your build perfectly. They're more like novelties to look at, like festival hats.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

Glacial Blade Cold damage: 15-22 (Requires 9 Swordsmanship)Damage +15% (While Enchanted) Special Note: This item can be upgraded with a Sword Pommel
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Conjure Frost?

Sounds nice

keli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Budapest

E/

yes they will give us a staff with +150 energy 250-350 dmg and 100% casting time, and bow with 8500^50...
well its only a pre-order

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
What were you expecting? Perfect Max Greens?
Sure, why not. People are paying good money for them.

However, many people are expecting something better than perfect max greens. Make them fully moddable. The former pre-release items should be made fully moddable, and so should these. Absolutely no reason to not do that.

I fail to see why anyone would wanna pay real-life money for weapons that are less moddable than in-game collector weapons are.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Hero weapons.

Hurray.

Now everyone shut up. ;P

Go to every character, type /bonus and all your heroes are hooked up.

Doesn't GWEN have 10 heros? I got pre-order weapons for Sins, Rits, Para, Derv and now ill get weapons for Warrior, Ranger and Casters. GG.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

because of vanity. the only reason anyone plays with any "special" item...we/they/I am vain and want my items to look cool.. These skins will probably only be available to the preorder weapons. like that shield was...hrm from Goty? or one of the pre release packs.

keli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Budapest

E/

well in hungary i got the pre-release for free..

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

Awesome. I can trash them and remake them as many times as I like. Disposable weapons are FTW.

These are probably catered towards use on peoples heroes btw...

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&#

N/E

+15% enchanted, cold damage.

Use Conjure Frost gogogo.

Healers Wisper

Healers Wisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Anaheim, CA

BoMB

N/

I really dont think these are all that bad, they work for heros which is where most of these weapons go anyways. And really for the most part they are free, the $5 is really to reserve your copy of gw:en at most places. No real complants here.

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
Sure, why not. People are paying good money for them.

However, many people are expecting something better than perfect max greens. Make them fully moddable. The former pre-release items should be made fully moddable, and so should these. Absolutely no reason to not do that.

I fail to see why anyone would wanna pay real-life money for weapons that are less moddable than in-game collector weapons are.
lol. pay good money? you funny, funny man. the pack is $5, and that $5 goes towards the purchase of GWEN. yeah, sorry you dont get to empty your life savings, but its free.

as for the weapons.... dislike the staff, like the other two. unique... thats what i like to see

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

That staff will replace the Spiritbinder as my standard hero staff.

And yes, if that sword is the design contest winner, then I'll definately use it no matter what stats it comes with.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

They are not "perfect" in the sense of what is generally wanted the most.

This is no coincidence. They always carefully pick useful mods, but take care not to make them count to the best weapons there is. Would diminish the incentive to get endgame greens and rare skins.


Closest to this are the Nevermore Flatbow, the Rhino Hammer and the Serrated Shield. Too bad you can no longer add a grip to them, the Rhino Hammer would then be a perfect weapon. But I think this is already countered by the fact that Hammers are not too popular outside PvP, and not overly much in PvP either.


BTW: Maybe the "Fiery Destroyers" are vulnerable to Cold Damage. IDS and the Preorder Glacial Blade would then just rock.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Are these gonna be available from the online store? I can't get them otherwise without paying GROSS shipping fees (over $50) which would be... dumb.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by prism2525
Are these gonna be available from the online store? I can't get them otherwise without paying GROSS shipping fees (over $50) which would be... dumb.
Yeah, you can get the prerelease package in the online store.

If the Glacial Blade has a cool skin, buh-bye IDS. And the staff will be quite useful for any new caster heroes we get. Same for the bow and rangers.

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

I wouldn't mind using the sword on a conjure warrior.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Hey, the staff (fire spec) has ok specs... I can't say the same for the other weapons though.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

The nightfall prerelease items are perfect :-P

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Please Anet, let us inscribe that sword ._.

I like my plague touch ._.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
The nightfall prerelease items are perfect :-P
No, they aren't. "Icy" and "Fiery" are not the best weapon mods. And there are lots of reasons to want to use something other than "Of Enchanting" or "Of Shelter " in many situations.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

People who bash "icy" and "fiery" mods are the same people who use Sundering (by the way, by dealing elemental damage, you bypass a warriors +20 armor vs physical damage, thus an elemental weapon is equivalent to a 100/20 Sundering weapon when used against a warrior).

Jeremy Untouchable

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

spinal shivers?..

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Better then the GOTY items, only one I use from them is the Serrated Shield <3

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

W/

Ooo! Just realized my warrior will finally have a max sword in presearing.

countesscorpula

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Gwen Is [EVIL]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Selket
Taken from EBgames:


So you get two completely useless items since they're uninscribable and then a spiritbinder for all classes.

hoo-ray?
The sword looks great for W/Ds and W/Es. The enchantments that work with cold damage in both professions can be pretty cool. And +15 while enchanted. That would be a "Guided by fate" inscription. And room for the pommel of your choice.

A sundering bow with 15% and - 5 energy... Sundering works nicely in every situation (one of the most sought after bow strings), and -5 e is made up for easily with expertise. This is a "Brawn of Brains" inscription, btw. And room for the bowgrip of your choice.


The staff.
15 energy (Base ten + 5 insightful staff head)
HSR 20% (Base on a max staff)
HCT 10% (Perfect "don't think twice" inscription)
+45 HP when enchanted (Perfect Devotion staff wrapping)

That makes a maxed out staff, useable by any casting profession.


So, none of these are "completely useless." All come with inscriptions (permanent ones, but they are there), and at least one maxed mod. And unlike the Spiritbinder, this one comes with a staff wrapping, as mentioned earlier. If you want a bare item that will accept prefix and suffix mods, go visit a collector or a crafter. These items were made to be relatively generic and "perfect" in order to please a wide variety of people. If you need something else to fit your dream build, other items are available in the game.

A better question about these items would be, why does the ritualist get a flashy pre-order weapon, but the dervish, paragon, and assassin are left out? Just wondering...

Robin_Anadri

Robin_Anadri

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Girl Power [GP]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by King's Spectre
Ooo! Just realized my warrior will finally have a max sword in presearing.
Bonus items won't spawn in pre.

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

If you don't think the items are acceptable don't pre-order.

countesscorpula

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Gwen Is [EVIL]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc


Closest to this are the Nevermore Flatbow, the Rhino Hammer and the Serrated Shield. Too bad you can no longer add a grip to them, the Rhino Hammer would then be a perfect weapon. But I think this is already countered by the fact that Hammers are not too popular outside PvP, and not overly much in PvP either.

Gaile posted in another thread about pre-order items that devs are currently working on fixing the GOTY items and other pre-orders so that they will be able to accept mods again, and will thus not be "half modded" anymore. Hope that's good news to some poeple.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

And yeah, bonus weapons do spawn in pre-searing.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin_Anadri
Bonus items won't spawn in pre.
Since when?

123456

Nuclear Eclipse

Nuclear Eclipse

Banned

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Well, let's wait 'til we see the skin to start whining.
basically this is exactly what's wrong with this game...

Rocky Raccoon

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuclear Eclipse
basically this is exactly what's wrong with this game...
The whining?