More terribad preorder items

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Since you have the code for them, you can use it anywhere.

Anyway to the OP, What are you bitching about? if you dont like the weapons then dont buy the pre release, simple as that.

I find it most usefull as i can now make as many swords as i want, which is pretty cool considering most of my chars have 2 hero warriors, and a third on the way, im always in the need of swords, staves and bows since you prettymuch have 20 heroes, its gonna suck finding equipment for all of them and so the pre release package is an awesome deal for what 5 dollars?

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
People who bash "icy" and "fiery" mods are the same people who use Sundering (by the way, by dealing elemental damage, you bypass a warriors +20 armor vs physical damage, thus an elemental weapon is equivalent to a 100/20 Sundering weapon when used against a warrior).
People who mindlessly bash sundering are the sam... err.

Icy and Fiery is just fine, but problems is that is is specialized mod:
* Either very specific for build (conjure stuff, shivers ...)
* Specialized for enemy type or area: Icy will only make trouble vs ice bad mosters, and equals 100/-30 sundering vs ranger mosnters. ouch. since rangers appear as much as warriors in pve, id rather have NO sundering mod at all than any elemental mod. Not mentioning that warrior is only one of ten classes that you can meet.

Now, elemental mods are usefull, if you can swap them in midcombat and if you have one for exach prefix (along with other prefixes).

Since preorder items end up at heroes, were talking hero usage, where weapon is best if is most generic because when working with heroes, usually last thing you want to do is to micromanage their equiped. weapons. Thus you give them Physical damage weapons with either no prefix or with something like zealous/furious/sundering/vampiric.

Besides, while conjure sounds cool, i would much rather have hero that can assist with, i.e. triggering mark of pain.

redant751

redant751

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

NYC,NY

Gods Special Forces (GSF)

R/E

Yes, More weapons for my heros.(not to mention all the new heros).

redant751

redant751

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

NYC,NY

Gods Special Forces (GSF)

R/E

Now if only i could mod my G.O.T.Y. Weapons too. (come on A-Net Please)...

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Why do people always dis on Free items?

Ever hear the phrase "Never look a gift horse in the mouth?"

Besides, most gamers will be satisfied just getting the head start "sneak peak."

(also, this should be moved to the Eye of the North forum)

bwillcox

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
Sure, why not. People are paying good money for them.

However, many people are expecting something better than perfect max greens. Make them fully moddable. The former pre-release items should be made fully moddable, and so should these. Absolutely no reason to not do that.

I fail to see why anyone would wanna pay real-life money for weapons that are less moddable than in-game collector weapons are.
I will likely buy the prerelease bonus pack for access to the Sneak Peek Weekend. The weapons are simply small perks to me that can be handy for new characters or heroes I don't want to spend time or gold on getting better weapons for. That's what I use my current /bonus items for. These will just be some more to choose from.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

How sad nothing for the Assassin Dervish or Paragon. Every other class gets an item but these three.

typical...

/sigh

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Hmm i know what we need, we need a new command for the bonus items because if you type /bonus now we get half an inventory full with stuff while we actually need one or 2 weapons for a newly unlocked hero, SO i would like to see that if you type /bonus + item name that you would only get that item, it would just be so much better and functional as i woudnt have to spend another minute to delete all the stuff, not that i am in a hurry at all while playing, but it gets annoying when following the NF story and have to create new weapons because the stock items of a new hero just suck big time.Ofcourse i can hear some one saying, create the items once and keep them in your inventory, ehm yeah nice but i dont want to have a full inventory when its getting busy and a gold or green item drop and you face a certain party wipe, you just want to be able to pick that up and move along.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
How sad nothing for the Assassin Dervish or Paragon. Every other class gets an item but these three.

typical...

/sigh
so the [wiki]Dragon Fangs[/wiki], [wiki]Fiery Sunspear Of Shelter[/wiki] and [wiki]Icy Soulbreaker Of Enchanting[/wiki] aren't enough?

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Quote:
posted by Lonesamurai
so the Dragon Fangs, Fiery Sunspear Of Shelter and Icy Soulbreaker Of Enchanting aren't enough?
Well obviously the preorder items and GOTY items from other Previous GW products were not enough because they added new preorder items for those classes. How about the coke, Korean, and Japan preorder items? Were those enough? Obviously not and for the same reasons.

So why not Assassin Dervish and Paragon items. Besides people with those classes who might not have pre order items (purchased later) are left out.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
Well obviously the preorder items and GOTY items from other Previous GW products were not enough because they added new preorder items for those classes. How about the coke, Korean, and Japan preorder items? Were those enough? Obviously not and for the same reasons.

So why not Assassin Dervish and Paragon items. Besides people with those classes who might not have pre order items (purchased later) are left out.
The weapons supplied are mainly for CORE classes so that EVERYONE has a chance to benefit from them, no matter what campaigns they own/don't own.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Quote:
posted by Sarevok Thordin
The weapons supplied are mainly for CORE classes so that EVERYONE has a chance to benefit from them, no matter what campaigns they own/don't own.
Thats why the Hourglass staff for the Ritualists is being offered as well? LOL, Last I noticed a Ritualist is not a CORE class thus destroying your point. The bonus item Hourglass staff will make a nice addition for my Razah and Ritualist non CORE classes.

There is no reason to leave these three fine classes out of the pre order bonus items for GWEN.

BTW: Not everyone will benefit only non Assassins Paragons and Dervishes will benefit so where are you getting this EVERYONE in CAPs from?

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
Thats why the Hourglass staff for the Ritualists is being offered as well? LOL, Last I noticed a Ritualist is not a CORE class thus destroying your point. The bonus item Hourglass staff will make a nice addition for my Razah and Ritualist non CORE classes.

There is no reason to leave these three fine classes out of the pre order bonus items for GWEN.

BTW: Not everyone will benefit only non Assassins Paragons and Dervishes will benefit so where are you getting this EVERYONE in CAPs from?
The EVERYONE is there because EVERYONE has the CORE classes.

The Ritualist is just lucky it uses a staff, thus they just threw a new variation on it. Less work than making a whole new staff.

pingu666

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

guildhall

[DETH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
How sad nothing for the Assassin Dervish or Paragon. Every other class gets an item but these three.

typical...

/sigh
apart from the factions and nightfall pre realease thingy

wish we could buy the weaponsets on the online store tho

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Quote:
posted by Sarevok Thordin
The EVERYONE is there because EVERYONE has the CORE classes.

The Ritualist is just lucky it uses a staff, thus they just threw a new variation on it. Less work than making a whole new staff.
Sorry you fail again... GW:EN is being marketed as an extension for all 3 chapters making all 10 classes CORE for GW:EN. Unlike previous chapters this expansion includes something for everyone not just the sinister six. So by bypassing the 3 classes that are CORE for GW:EN you alienate 3 alternate classes people do play. The Paradigm for CORE has changed with the release of expansions rather than chapters. With expansions there is no more sinister six CORE.

So whats the deal with ignoring the Assassin Dervish and Paragon ANET? Honestly your marketing manager needs to play the game.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's really not ANet's fault if you don't have bonus items for assassin, dervish, or paragon; it's yours for not getting the previous pre-orders. And if you do have those bonus items, I can't understand your complaint.

On behalf of my 10 new heroes, ANet, I thank you. I can't wait to see the new weapons.

liner

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
S The Paradigm for CORE has changed with the release of expansions rather than chapters. With expansions there is no more sinister six CORE.
Eh, no.
There are no new professions, we still have the 6 + 2 + 2 setup.

That said, Its a shame the paragon along with others is left out.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
Sorry you fail again... GW:EN is being marketed as an extension for all 3 chapters making all 10 classes CORE for GW:EN. Unlike previous chapters this expansion includes something for everyone not just the sinister six. So by bypassing the 3 classes that are CORE for GW:EN you alienate 3 alternate classes people do play. The Paradigm for CORE has changed with the release of expansions rather than chapters. With expansions there is no more sinister six CORE.

So whats the deal with ignoring the Assassin Dervish and Paragon ANET? Honestly your marketing manager needs to play the game.
100% true.

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drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

Once again people are bitching about the littlest things. You get what you get with the preorder, get the hell over it.

Enix

Enix

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

I am in a transitional period.

GRE

Ya, both the bow AND the staff will be great for heros. Although, I would prefer a +1 or 20% ench on the staff, as well as a +5^50 insc.

Muspellsheimr

Muspellsheimr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin_Anadri
Bonus items won't spawn in pre.
Unless this was a change in the last week or two, you are incorrect.

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

meh it would be nice if they'd at least put the factions and nightfall prerelease weapons either into the pack or sell the old packs in the store..... some people will have hero weps for every class while other people will be left out... :\

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

Ill be using them for my Heroes so im happy. besides there a free feature u can make as many times as u want. You dont complain about Free things!

If the sword is the skin i think it is its gonna look great

S_Serpent

S_Serpent

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

When not at Aziure's Wizard Tower you can find my in Belgium

Knigths of the Keyboard Order - KkO

My hero's are getting eager to lay there hands one em. I had to intoxicate them, so they just would fall asleep, they where so out of there minds they wanted to strike until GW:EN comes out. Can't blame em

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade
You dont complain about Free things!
yes they do, look at all the complaining about the bonus mission pack

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin_Anadri
Bonus items won't spawn in pre.
lol, rofl, more lol.

Off course they do.

Rhino's charge in pre-searing is probably the only good argument for buying the Goty pack.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

All I know is my perma-pre warrior is going to be super-happy with his new sword!

For the record, I like the new items. I'll probably like them even more once I see the skins. I'm only a little upset about the sword because I already have a Jade Sword just like it (Icy + 15/ench + 5 def) for my conjure frost. Maybe I can just make it my new zealous farmer blade.... hmm...

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
But I think this is already countered by the fact that Hammers are not too popular outside PvP, and not overly much in PvP either.
You don't PvP much do you?

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

FREE stuff.......yeah!!!!!!!!

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Sounds nice IMO, good enough for my heroes and i'll certainly use that bow since +15% -5 e is my favorite dmg mod

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surena
Yes, but regen still matters more than maximum energy except for bursts. 15/-5 is really bad however.
I mentioned zealous with barrage because of the fact that if barrage hits more than one target, its basically free... using Barrage as an example skill, your regen and the energy gained from using zealous with a pip lower regen will be nearly identical. The only time that regen is goign to matter is in a higher energy build such as a BA, BHA, or Cripshot ranger build. IF a player runs one of those builds with a zealous string, than they're an idiot.

mr_stealth

mr_stealth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Gots A Crayon[Blue]

Mo/Me

What I don't like about the pre-order weapons is the skins they are using for them are from the design a weapon contest. Especially if the Glacial Blade is the skin I think its going to be. There was (IMO) a very nice looking sword in the weapon design contest winners, and I was hoping it would be a weapon that would drop in late game/elite mission areas. I would hate to see a skin that nice go to waste on a pre-order item that you will rarely see used by players.

If I had a weapon design that won in that contest and found out it was being used for a pre-order weapon while others' designs were dropping in an elite mission, I would be rather insulted. These people put a lot of time into designing weapons, and they should at least have a chance at their design being a highly sought after skin rather than just a disposable/throw-away weapon that most people will forget about shortly after release.

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Hero weapons.

Hurray.

Now everyone shut up. ;P

Go to every character, type /bonus and all your heroes are hooked up.

Doesn't GWEN have 10 heros? I got pre-order weapons for Sins, Rits, Para, Derv and now ill get weapons for Warrior, Ranger and Casters. GG.
idd,

I will just give them to my hero's (and throw away the bow, thats one of the whorst ever, -5 energy bah)

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

http://de.guildwars.com/support/arti...se_bonus_pack/

WOO!! The Glacial Blade is that sweet blue sword from the Design A Weapon contest winners.

The other two are kind of...meh...

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

The other two aren't from the weapon contest..

The sword still looks great, and I actually really like the staff. The bow is rather uninteresting, but I think all bows are.

Thunder79

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

10 heroes...presumably covering all 10 classes...that's why the preorder item has provisions for each caster class

Warrior - covered - sword
Monk - covered - staff
Necromancer - covered - staff
Elementalist - covered - staff
Mesmer - covered - staff
Ranger - covered - bow
Asssassin - not covered
Ritualist - covered - staff
Dervish - not covered
Paragon - not covered

except that they are covered if you bought previous pre-order packs and the game of the year edition (which anyone can unlock now through the online store)...what is making you buy this one...maybe you should miss out on this one too so your non-covered characters and heroes won't feel left out.

For those who bought all the pre-order packs...we're happy...got something for all of our heroes and characters.

would it make much sense to create a staff and make it so all caster classes except for Ritualist could use it? Wouldn't you be complaining about how ritualist can't use the staff if that were the case. I bet you would.

The weapons are supposed to be bonuses...just like the sneak peek weekend....in exchange for saying yes you intend to buy the expansion. They have no obligation to outfit every single class with the weapons provided in the preorder pack.

w0utje15

w0utje15

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Do you care -.-' ?

Why should u know -.-' ?

Factions Preorder????

Spiritbinder Ritualist
Dragon Fangs Assasin

Thunder79

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca
http://de.guildwars.com/support/arti...se_bonus_pack/

WOO!! The Glacial Blade is that sweet blue sword from the Design A Weapon contest winners.

The other two are kind of...meh...

oooo...nice....I'll definitely be using that sword...

Staff....yeah I'll use it...

Bow....umm...hmm...I dunno...doesn't seem very darksteelish...

Quote:
The other two aren't from the weapon contest..

The sword still looks great, and I actually really like the staff. The bow is rather uninteresting, but I think all bows are.
All of them are entries from the Design A Weapon competition (if you translate the german you'll see that each one was a design-a-weapon contest entry)...the sword was one of the winners...the bow was a finalist...but the staff winner wasn't even listed on the Design-A-Weapon page. That gives me hope mine will make it in game as a weapon

Translated from the german site:
Quote:
We were on the search for something unusual, something that the Eye OF the North topic fits. With Bora Vergili from Istanbul, Turkey, we became fündig.

We looked for something that a visual connection to far trembling summits manufactures unknown landing, and the entry of our Serbian participant Marko Cvetrovic fulfilled this exactly.

Our third breath-robbing weapon, the ice age blade, is based on the Artwork of Andre Roux.

thral

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

W/

1 question:
Why dont they ever make cool axes, i was like:"Hmm that sword can come in handy" then it struck me i never use swords, hate them with a passion. Axes FTW!!! Hoorah!!!

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

These plus the GotYE pack cover all the heroes I actually use. It's a shame I've missed some of the previous pre-order packs, but I don't see myself wasting a hero slot on a Sin anyway. I love playing the class, but don't see much point in picking Zenmai over pretty much any other hero. I level Zenmai as a crit barrager and then forget about her.