Did GW ruin all other rpg's for you too?

thejerk

thejerk

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

I have never even come close to spending 100 hours on another RPG much less the 3,000 ive spent on this game. I tried to play Oblivion some time back and I couldnt even play more than 5 hours of it before I uninstalled and fired up GW again. Im not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing, I am thinking about getting another rpg but im scared the same thing might happen. FF 12 I hear is a great but the time I waste grinding in that game I could be making some dough in this one. Any of you guys experience what I am talking about?

thedeadwalk!

thedeadwalk!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Atlantis

The Ocean [quay]

I can't stand looking for "uber" items anymore. Maxed stats that are relatively easy to get is awesome.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nope. I've actually just started playing KotoR again. Man, I wish Arenanet could come up with come characters on par with those. Seriously, come up with a character like HK-47 in GW2 and I will love you forever, Arenanet.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

One of the few RPGs I can play consistently other than this one is Star Ocean 3. Fabulous battle system, same for the item creation. 400 hours and growing on that game.

Well99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Nix Guild (NG)

N/E

I spent more time with BG series..also Kotar fan.I play alot on GW and it is my online game.So I'll really be glad when GW:EN come outs.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Did GW ruin all other rpg's for you too?
No.

Guild Wars would have to be the best RPG ever for that to happen.

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Nope. Guildwars pretty much sucks and anet phails...

Mystic Cobra

Mystic Cobra

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

Québec

Punk Not Dead

Mo/

Yes but now I play less less and so boring.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by thejerk
I have never even come close to spending 100 hours on another RPG much less the 3,000 ive spent on this game. I tried to play Oblivion some time back and I couldnt even play more than 5 hours of it before I uninstalled and fired up GW again. Im not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing, I am thinking about getting another rpg but im scared the same thing might happen. FF 12 I hear is a great but the time I waste grinding in that game I could be making some dough in this one. Any of you guys experience what I am talking about?
I'm in your same boat man, I tried playing other RPG's but I end up leaving them eating dust and play GW, however I don't say GW ruined the others its just came out to be very addicting. I see addiction nothing else.

Nurse With Wound

Nurse With Wound

None More Negative

Join Date: May 2006

Steel Phoenix [StP]

No way. Nothing beats Fallout, especially not a shallow game like Guild Wars. Its only button mashing game, not really RPG. It lacks dialogue system, dynamic storyline, theres no player impact on the world around, no multiple choices quests/stories. World is small, cramped and basically theres only one way forward ... Guild Wars isn't really a cRPG game, its rather action game in the style of Diablo and Dungeon Siege. I'm playing this game only for the PVP part. Roleplaying and storytelling is horrible and sub-par to almost any RPG i've played ( NWN, BG saga, KotoR, Arcanum, Fallout, Torment and many others )

MrFuzzles

MrFuzzles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Norway

D/

While GW is great fun for me as just a casual diablo-style game to play with my friends, it just doesn't offer the open pvp I enjoy in other games. Long term wars, economical competition and politics is what sets mmo's apart from regular games for me. Something about GW's consentual "arena" based pvp just leaves something to be desired for people like me. I still dabble in random arenas just because GW has a fun skill system.
Currently I mostly play Eve with a little GW and shadowbane on the side.

As for holding any actual rpg value? Nah. I don't consider GW a role-playing game at all. If that's the sorta stuff I was after I'd be more likely to be playing ryzom or EQ2.

thejerk

thejerk

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

KOTOR 1 AND 2 both were fantastic games (which I played a couple of times over) but I played them before I got into this game. I admit that I am getting bored of this game somewhat that is why I am looking for a new rpg to play. I was considering Zelda but I dunno, maybe ill just wait till Gwen comes out which is only like a month away. If another Kotor game comes out I will be purchasing that for sure. Fable was another game I really liked before GW but I dont have a 360 so Fable 2 is not gonna happen for me. I never played WOW and that may be the premier RPG ( more people play that and they have to pay for it which means it must be a cut above GW) but I dont ever see myself paying for that game when I can play this for free. I grew up on console rpg's so that may explain some of the games I have mentioned, GW was my first mmorpg and it saved me so much money that I would have wasted on other games. It truly has payed for itself many times over if you really think about it, 3000 hours of it was a great investment imo.

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Nope. I've actually just started playing KotoR again. Man, I wish Arenanet could come up with come characters on par with those. Seriously, come up with a character like HK-47 in GW2 and I will love you forever, Arenanet.
Yeah I am a big fan of KotoR and KotoR 2
HK-47 ftw!

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down
Yeah I am a big fan of KotoR and KotoR 2
HK-47 ftw!
Statement: I agree with this statement.

Maria stormshield

Maria stormshield

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Check your 6

Independent Order of Cruel Law [iOcL]

W/Me

Query: Is there someone you need killed, Master?

tox_169

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Auckland, New Zealand

In terms of time spent, GW has "ruined" other RPGs for me. Not because it is the best RPG out there but it suits my present lifestyle.

The more limiting factor for me is that I only have a 40-gb HDD so I can't install whatever I want... currently saving up for an 80-gb HDD so I can finally finish KOTOR and NWN (plus some Splinter Cell on the side) and try out Morrowind and Black & White 1. Oldies but goodies

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

RPGs? That would be Final Fantasy.

But GW ruins all other grindfest MMOs for me though. Now if a game is an MMOG AND has grind, it must has something VERY good about it or I won't even bother to try.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nope.

Nothing can ruin Daggerfall.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

I adore GW and have sunk several hundred hours into it, but I'm also very fond of Titan Quest, Dungeon Siege 2, Morrowind (1500+ hours here, mostly thanks to user mods), Oblivion, The old Baldur's Gate and Fallout games, and countless others I'm just not thinking of. GW's the only online RPG I'd play, though, thanks to the instancing mechanics and the NPC option. I fear greatly that GW2 won't be my style at all.

bart

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

I think MMORPG is having an effect on the gaming industry especially single player RPG. A huge majority of gamers are addicted to playing MMORPGs and ignoring new RPGs. It seems only established RPGs like Fallout, KOTOR, FF series etc can survive now. Making a brand new RPG is very risky business these days. Anyway WoW has ruined other RPG games for me. I used to buy a game or two every few weeks in the hope of finding a good game. Now that i'm hooked on to WoW i don't even go into game shops anymore.

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Please... gw doesn't even come close to some of the top notched rpgs in terms of story or even engagement. The character development is weak at best and the item system is laughable. The only saving grace is the now mediocre pvp that begs for fixes

thejerk

thejerk

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
I think MMORPG is having an effect on the gaming industry especially single player RPG. A huge majority of gamers are addicted to playing MMORPGs and ignoring new RPGs. It seems only established RPGs like Fallout, KOTOR, FF series etc can survive now. Making a brand new RPG is very risky business these days. Anyway WoW has ruined other RPG games for me. I used to buy a game or two every few weeks in the hope of finding a good game. Now that i'm hooked on to WoW i don't even go into game shops anymore.
So I guess the monthly fee sorta isnt a big deal cause you would be probably wasting more money on other games anyway.

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by acidic
Please... gw doesn't even come close to some of the top notched rpgs in terms of story or even engagement. The character development is weak at best and the item system is laughable. The only saving grace is the now mediocre pvp that begs for fixes
That pretty much sumerizes my opinions on the matter. To me GW is an action game once you get to level 20. Very little character development, have the best stuff way before the end of the game, and you just have to go through and figure out the nuances of each level. Real RPGs, like the all the ones already mentioned, will always have a leg up. Single player RPGs can develop a world and a story line that is engaging and that can draw you in that a MMO can't. MMO's have to make the story secondary otherwise people would stop playing after the story is over.

Bargamer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Rt/N

Statement: I enjoyed making weapons of mass destruction in WoW, but mostly limited myself to killing ignorant meatbags, instead of other semi-sentients.

Continuation: Guild Wars however, had the elegant simplicity of the dual-class system and the limitation to 8 skills, which encourages such magnificent creativity on how to terminate meatbags of all types.

Statement: However, currently I am engaged in LOTR Online, which allows me to create weapons of mass destruction and grind meatbags.

Continuation of previous statements: We are excited about GW:EN, and GW2. The minions, especially, remind me of my fellow lesser droids, except for my master's lamentable habit of blowing them up. However, they do terminate meatbags, so I do not complain TOO much.

Clarification: GW is an RPG, albeit one that has a strong focus on build concept, and cooperation with a team. The fact that it's an MMO simply infuses more of the average meatbag's opinion on what is a good build, and therefore, has a wider impact on what kind of team that build will fit well within. We choose to call this "Meatbag Error," or perhaps, "A Comedy of Meatbag Errors." Thankfully, my Master built me perfectly.

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

No, But whenever i play a new mmo i compare it too much with GW , things i see GW has that the game would be much better with and stuff like that.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
No, But whenever i play a new mmo i compare it too much with GW , things i see GW has that the game would be much better with and stuff like that.
The only way GW has done that has been through the animation. GW has some of the best animation I've ever seen in an RPG, and I really compare a lot of games to it. It's annoying.

xiao1985

xiao1985

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Good thing is that when I visit EB now days, I don't buy no more games. I already have game that I can play and didn't finish.

phoenixtech

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

only fallout3 (assuming it goes as well as planned) would ruin all other rpgs for me.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Pretty much.
It is an amazing game - but is sadly getting trashed by the very people who made it.

Koross

Koross

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Celestial Order

R/E

Single player RPGs still rock to me. Kotor, Fallout comes to mind.

However, if you are talking about MMOs or MMORPGs, then yes, GW has spoilt all other MMOs and MMORPGs for me. I can't stand grind, be it for levels or for items at all now. Funnily though, I am trying out Dungeon Runners now and so far its a good switch from GW from time to time. Although it is relatively a very grind oriented game. But the randomness of the dungeons every time it gets reset makes it seem a little interesting.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
Guild Wars would have to be the best RPG ever for that to happen.
It'll never beat Planescape: Torment.

Of course, nothing ever will, so I guess that's not fair.

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

What can change the nature of a man?

Yeah, I still play plenty of other RPG's, at the moment I'm really looking forward to Mass Effect and Lost Oddyssey, the 360 has a lot of really great RPG's coming out this year. Dragon Age on the PC is looking awesome too, if they ever decide to release it.

But recently I did decide to look for an MMO to play, so I was downloading trials to pretty much every one in existance, and I was pretty much comparing all of them to GW. My main problem was that none of them really seem like value for money, and I just couldn't justify the monthly fee, none of them really compared to the fun I have with GW or even receive the same amount of upgrades and updates. The only exception to that was WoW, which I did enjoy and played for a while, but I still prefer GW and having to pay monthly and then cancel your account whenever you decide to stop for a while is just a pain..

I'm looking forward to Star Trek Online, but again, the monthly fee will probably drive me away, I really don't understand why so many companies feel it's necessary, especially after GW has been so successful.

Bazompora

Bazompora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

N/Me

Guild Wars didn't ruin "other" RPGs for me, for it's RPG part really doesn't call for involvement. I do however buy less other games now, but that's because I have a guild to attend to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFuzzles
Long term wars, economical competition and politics is what sets mmo's apart from regular games for me. Something about GW's consentual "arena" based pvp just leaves something to be desired for people like me.
My thoughts exactly. GW2 would be quite a limp MMORPG without the things I bolded in the quote.

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

i started playing Warcraft 3 and WoW

FlameoutAlchemist

FlameoutAlchemist

Hitmonk Extraordinarre!!

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lurking moar on my forums

Starvin Chillin on Lincoln Drive [MAFB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down
Yeah I am a big fan of KotoR and KotoR 2
HK-47 ftw!
HK-47 > Meatbags

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Nope.

Nothing can ruin Daggerfall.

Yes the game to end all games DAGGERFALL. I have 6000+ hours in GW in 2 yrs and I havent even scratched the surface of the time I have in Daggerfall which btw if ppl didnt know was the best of the 6 in the series.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Guild Wars is the first and only MMORPG I ever played. The monthly payment of other MMO's kept me away from them. And I like Guild Wars for it's excellent playability, good storyline and great graphics. I feel no need to try other MMO's because I rather build on my accievements in GW.

Things I don't like in Guild Wars is that it's too much focussed on skills, the low level cap and the fact that high-end weapons, items and armor do not provide better statistics. I would love to see that dedication is not onl rewarded with nice looks and titles but also with a (somewhat) better character.

Ivan Aidrann

Ivan Aidrann

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

South Africa

Shadow of the Celestial Eclipse

R/

Long story short, a few days ago I was hesitant to start a new FFX game because I knew I might get hooked again and that would give me less time to play GW. The thought was only there for a second, then I decided to play FF anyway.

Still though, it goes to show that GW did something to me

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bargamer
Statement: I enjoyed making weapons of mass destruction in WoW, but mostly limited myself to killing ignorant meatbags, instead of other semi-sentients.

Continuation: Guild Wars however, had the elegant simplicity of the dual-class system and the limitation to 8 skills, which encourages such magnificent creativity on how to terminate meatbags of all types.

Statement: However, currently I am engaged in LOTR Online, which allows me to create weapons of mass destruction and grind meatbags.

Continuation of previous statements: We are excited about GW:EN, and GW2. The minions, especially, remind me of my fellow lesser droids, except for my master's lamentable habit of blowing them up. However, they do terminate meatbags, so I do not complain TOO much.

Clarification: GW is an RPG, albeit one that has a strong focus on build concept, and cooperation with a team. The fact that it's an MMO simply infuses more of the average meatbag's opinion on what is a good build, and therefore, has a wider impact on what kind of team that build will fit well within. We choose to call this "Meatbag Error," or perhaps, "A Comedy of Meatbag Errors." Thankfully, my Master built me perfectly.
Post of the day: 24th july 2007!

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

I've never played any other mmo long enough to get attached to it, so guild wars is the best i've ever played.
I tried finding another but it's hard, i love the absence of grinding (well nearly), the max weapons...
If any of you know a game like this please pm me