Hair Stylists?
iriyabran
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Originally Posted by oceanicdemigod
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/0/0...ed_armor_m.jpg
That Face = Tyrian
That Hair = NOT Tyrian
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/b/b...an_armor_f.jpg
Not expert on Female Rangers but is that Tyrian Hair?
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/4/4...an_armor_f.jpg
Don't recall that Hair in the Tyrian Female Necro Line-up
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/6/6...an_armor_m.jpg
Necro Men in tyria DO NOT have this hair...I WOULD SO MAKE A TYRIAN NECRO MAN FOR THAT HAIR!!!!! ::drools::
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/c/c...nt_armor_f.jpg
This is Tyrian Mesmer with Canthan Hair for sure...my Canthan Mesmer has that hair.
So what's with that? Sound like a Cross-Campaign Hair Pool is best idea
oh my god that's ass kicking *__*!damn anet dont tease give us a hair stylist @_@
WinterSnowblind
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
It's now been said countless times, but.. If I decided to change my characters hairstyle, how would that even remotely affect you? Most of the people I commonly play with probably wouldn't even notice, let alone random people on a forum.I fail to see how anyone could be against this idea. If you're perfectly happy with all of your characters then fine, nothing to worry about. But for those of us who would like a change of pace, it would be a great option (and money sink) without having to completely recreate that character, thus losing all of their armour, weapons and achievements.
trielementz
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
he means your opinions are controlling (restrictive, subjugative, etc etc), not the actual act of you providing opinions. pretty obvious if you read what you quoted, so consider yourself corrected.and no, people who want a hairdresser NPC do not give a hoot whether you use it or not. in fact, i'm pretty sure people will put you on their Ignore list just to show how much they don't care about what you do with your toons.
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by trielementz
he means your opinions are controlling (restrictive, subjugative, etc etc), not the actual act of you providing opinions. pretty obvious if you read what you quoted, so consider yourself corrected.
Hmm..Let me see if I get this...My opinions are controlling but not the act of providing them.....
I never foreced anyone to read my opinions so I see no controlling issues. Have I implimented a new way of controlling people by using my human nature attributes? If people are wanting the Hair stylist and fighting for it is basically the same thing I am doing but opposite..I have simply said "I don't think it would be a good addition to the game and I think it is a waste." "To change your chars hair means it just isn't the same IMO." that just sums it all up. Operative not to be mean but I have never said people should play like me, lol. I guess I continue to argue the "Hair Stylist" because one it changes the character as a whole and two it is a wastewhen there is a system in place atm IMO<--(key phrase), and apparently no one has actually cared for my opinions (except the folks quoteing me and continue to fight against me 
) , so I keep repeating my self basically to get my opinion/point through again..which still fails....*sigh* But like I said in a old post, from Anets perspective I do not see them adding this feature this late in the game but that is the way I see it. This feature should have been added after Factions if added at all Imo <--(key phrase).
) , so I keep repeating my self basically to get my opinion/point through again..which still fails....*sigh* But like I said in a old post, from Anets perspective I do not see them adding this feature this late in the game but that is the way I see it. This feature should have been added after Factions if added at all Imo <--(key phrase).
Paloma Song
No one is attacking anyone's right to hold or express an opinion; to hold or express an opinion is not, in itself, controlling.
People are discussing the merits of one opinion (which you apparently share, though I wasn't directing my post at you specifically). And I was answering a question, psycho-analyzing why people (in general) would come to hold such opinions. It is about the fearful desire of some to control their surroundings, even - especially - when that means controlling you, since they egotistically think of other people as being part of their environment rather than separate individuals with their own rights. People who advocate the mere presence of a hairstylist are in no way attempting to control you. No one is forcing you to use it just because it exists - frankly no one gives a crap whether or not you use said hairstylist.
"If people are wanting the Hair stylist and fighting for it is basically the same thing I am doing but opposite."
This is not true. What people who want the hairstylist are saying is "we want the option." What you are saying is "I don't want the option and I also don't want anyone else to have the option either." In other words, you're just fine with controlling other people's actions by effectively arguing against their right to have options and make their own choices - in this case, because it might alter your environment (as you said, "it just isn't the same".)
Of course, this is a ridiculous supposition from the start. I, for one, brush and style my hair differently every day, multiple times. Last I checked, I'm still the same person and my friends aren't disappointed in me for the chameleon that is my mane.
People are discussing the merits of one opinion (which you apparently share, though I wasn't directing my post at you specifically). And I was answering a question, psycho-analyzing why people (in general) would come to hold such opinions. It is about the fearful desire of some to control their surroundings, even - especially - when that means controlling you, since they egotistically think of other people as being part of their environment rather than separate individuals with their own rights. People who advocate the mere presence of a hairstylist are in no way attempting to control you. No one is forcing you to use it just because it exists - frankly no one gives a crap whether or not you use said hairstylist.
"If people are wanting the Hair stylist and fighting for it is basically the same thing I am doing but opposite."
This is not true. What people who want the hairstylist are saying is "we want the option." What you are saying is "I don't want the option and I also don't want anyone else to have the option either." In other words, you're just fine with controlling other people's actions by effectively arguing against their right to have options and make their own choices - in this case, because it might alter your environment (as you said, "it just isn't the same".)
Of course, this is a ridiculous supposition from the start. I, for one, brush and style my hair differently every day, multiple times. Last I checked, I'm still the same person and my friends aren't disappointed in me for the chameleon that is my mane.
Operative 14
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Operative not to be mean but I have never said people should play like me, lol.
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
So suck it up or make a new char ez as that
Here's a good one
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What part of "make a new char or suck it up" is your personal experience and/or opinion?
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That's just a tedious semantic point over the words can't and shouldn't. It's not really relevant whether you said or didn't say "you can't change your hairstyle" since current game mechanics already dictate that we can't.
The important part of the argument is that you've opined that other people "shouldn't be able to" change their hairstyles. This is the opinion you claim to hold, which is being argued against. I've explained why it's controlling and egotistical, twice, myself.
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by Paloma Song
Cathode_Reborn
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
) , so I keep repeating my self basically to get my opinion/point through again..which still fails....*sigh* But like I said in a old post, from Anets perspective I do not see them adding this feature this late in the game but that is the way I see it. This feature should have been added after Factions if added at all Imo <--(key phrase).
Well then, stop repeating yourself....you've made it more that clear than you're against the idea yet you still haven't provided a decent argument to not add this kind of feature.What exacly do you mean you mean by "still fails"? Would you consider your opinion "successful" if you manage to get someone to think the way you do? If you're against the idea, why are you even posting here? If this was a topic about skilll balances or changing something in the game that could possibly affect people in a negative way then sure, post your arguments against it......but, this is just a topic about adding a harmless feature. It almost seems you're against it just because you already wasted your time deleting a new char and remaking it just for a new hairstyle. If this feature is added into the game, there's no way it can hurt you.....if you're attempting to flame, just stop posting now. geriand
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Originally Posted by oceanicdemigod
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/0/0...ed_armor_m.jpg That Face = Tyrian That Hair = NOT Tyrian http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/b/b...an_armor_f.jpg Not expert on Female Rangers but is that Tyrian Hair? http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/4/4...an_armor_f.jpg Don't recall that Hair in the Tyrian Female Necro Line-up http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/6/6...an_armor_m.jpg Necro Men in tyria DO NOT have this hair...I WOULD SO MAKE A TYRIAN NECRO MAN FOR THAT HAIR!!!!! ::drools:: http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/c/c...nt_armor_f.jpg This is Tyrian Mesmer with Canthan Hair for sure...my Canthan Mesmer has that hair. So what's with that? Sound like a Cross-Campaign Hair Pool is best idea umm soz mate but you've got the complete wrong idea...you can take characters from one campaign and give them armour from another e.g my grandad has a canthan warrior is sunspear armour and i have a prophecies monk in sunspear armour its easy to mix and match armour and hairstyles just take them to the campaign and by the armour
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by geriand
umm soz mate but you've got the complete wrong idea...you can take characters from one campaign and give them armour from another e.g my grandad has a canthan warrior is sunspear armour and i have a prophecies monk in sunspear armour
its easy to mix and match armour and hairstyles just take them to the campaign and by the armour You appear to have the complete wrong idea. That ele has a tyrian face with a canthan hairstyle. Hes not talking about armour - everybody knows you can get armour from a different campaign. The one thing you cant do right now is have a face from prophecies with an hairstyle from factions - but those pictures show this being possible.
White knight lord
Reborn,I think this wouldn't be such a great addition to GW this late in the game which I have stated in some of my posts and the player should have to stick with what they chose(To answer your "decent arguement" comment).I am not trying to hypnotize folks into getting them to think what I think.I have never deleted a char to get a new style and never have wasted any time on my chars (might wanna read a little more carefully).
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
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Quote: Originally Posted by White knight lord Why waste time to implament this feature this late in the game? and not encourage Anet to add it to GW2? Because it's A. Two years from now, and B. I want to be able to change my characters in Guild Wars 1, not to mention C. I'll be making different characters in GW2.
And it's not that I don't care for your opinions - obviously, I *do* care because I'm posting here. I just want a reason saying why you don't want this implemented.
Oh and lol at this:
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I have never deleted a char to get a new style
O rly? But what about:
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So I should waste a slot for the same character? Buy the same gear, same skills, same everything...just for a different hair style??? No thanks, hair stylist please. Not everyone is so wasteful.|
Originally Posted by White knight lord
I have made new chars to get a new hair skin and body its not hard
...Hm.
White knight lord
Just cuz I have made new chars doesn't mean I have deleted a char to get a new hair style,LOL.I still have a extra slot from all the campaigns.
Of course your going to make new chars bryant your not takeing your existing char(s) to GW 2 but they could still implament this to GW2. I say it is too late in trems of they should have added this when Factions came out.
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
I say it is too late in trems of they should have added this when Factions came out.
That still doesn't answer the question of why it's too late. And still no reason.
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
I think this wouldn't be such a great addition to GW this late in the game which I have stated in some of my posts and the player should have to stick with what they chose
Why exactly? (No copys of every post you have made in these last 16 pages please just a straight forward answer will do)
White knight lord
I have given my opinions on why I don't think it shouldn't be put in read my other posts for your answer. This going back and fourth thing is getting old it was fun getting people going on for 16 pages but its getting old, So please read my old posts for my reasons (opinions).If you all don't want to go back here is a summary my Answer/Reason-" I think its a waste when there is a system implamented." Bryant I never told you to waste a slot and If a player spends a extravagant amount on a char that is their own problem. I am done, everyone has my reasons and this is boring now..So take it easy folks and gl with your pleed for a Hair stylist.
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
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If there was already a system implemented for changing our hair, then why does this thread exist, dude...
In other words (Loviatar style): THERE IS NO SYSTEM
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
Bryant I never told you to waste a slot and If a player spends a extravagant amount on a char that is their own problem.
You didn't tell me to do it, but you suggested it. While it's not as bad, it's still bad.
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
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Sorry i failed to see where you put the answer. Everyone of your posts looks the same.
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I think its a waste when there is a system implamented
Where is this system you speak of?
Fr_3_aK
I dont have a spare slot, so i cant check, BUT the released picture with new armors on it could be checked for hair styles. If there's a hairstyle you can't get now it would be a good hint there could be a hairstylist soon.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/pic-1577.jpg
Cricket
Well, the necro, monk and paragon hairstyles are definitely in the game already. I remembered seeing them and now I checked with my free slot for all campaigns. The Mesmer is a little elusive. There is one in NF that could be the one in the picture, but I'm not entirely sure. I can't exactly replicate the color in the character creation screen, but that may be because of the dark-ish GW:EN environment - all the colors are a bit shadier IMHO.
As for my two cents, even being a gamer girl and not all that girlish, I love getting a new haircut or hair-color for myself, and I would be delighted to give my characters a makeover every once in a while. My mesmer has been running around with a tight pony-tail for a year now and I really want to try something that fits with her new armor style. Or that absolutely bad-ass Ranger-with-a-bandana style from NF for my Tyrian, 25-months old ranger. I don't see why some people are so dead-set against making the game for others more enjoyable. It's not like I'm going to come after your characters with big gleaming scissors! Although that could be fun... uhm... a hair stylist is by no means something necessary or life and death, it's a nice luxury, but one a lot of people would enjoy. It also wasn't necessary to add material storage oh so long ago, but boy, did I ever squeal with joy when I got it! Yes, I do make strange and embarrassing sounds when playing GW... And yeah, I'd use it. I'd use that hair stylist a lot. I also change the guild cape every month or so, much to the chagrin of my officers who are currently subjected to pink flowers on their backs. Poor guys, I do embarrass them so. Also, I once had pink hair, but my very own real life hair stylist is currently pushing for a sort of Jade green, which would go nicely with our very Luxon guild hall...
dawnmist
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
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I dyed my own hair burgundy-red for 15 years - and then suddenly 18 months ago decided i didn't want that colour anymore. I went black for about 4 months, then reverted to my natural dark-brown. Seven years ago I had it cut in a short bob (not touching my shoulders) - now it's long enough to sit on. It's not hard for someone to completely change their tastes without the original decisions being a mistake, and it would be nice if that were an option in-game as well for the characters with which we spend so much time without having to throw away years of effort. Particularly as the choices made in-game will often reflect the things people are interested in at the time, and hence they grow old and out-of-date.
Some people *do* get attached to their chars - and don't consider them "disposable". But just like in normal life people change their tastes, it'd be nice if my chars could also reflect that changing taste. A char is far more than just their appearance - and you cannot "remake" everything that went into that char with the "delete and recreate" method.
I'd love to see a hairstylist - and would be prepared to pay the same pricing as a Guild Cape change (2k) to be able to change their hairstyle. It's not something I'd want to do every day - but would probably take advantage of it every 6 months or so for my chars.
We can change armour styles, we can change colours for armour, we can change guild capes, we can choose to show/hide helms and capes - why not be able to change hairstyles as well - particularly as they are probably the thing we see the most of for our characters?
Diablo???
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
...If a player spends a extravagant amount on a char that is their own problem.
Ostracizing players for their achievements is the ultimate discouragement to playing a game.
Xiooua
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
I have given my opinions on why I don't think it shouldn't be put in read my other posts for your answer. This going back and fourth thing is getting old it was fun getting people going on for 16 pages but its getting old, So please read my old posts for my reasons (opinions).If you all don't want to go back here is a summary my Answer/Reason-" I think its a waste when there is a system implamented." Bryant I never told you to waste a slot and If a player spends a extravagant amount on a char that is their own problem. I am done, everyone has my reasons and this is boring now..So take it easy folks and gl with your pleed for a Hair stylist.
Ugh, good, are you finally giving up? Looking through this thread, I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how many people have refuted your point(s). There is simply no good reason not to implement this. I honestly can't fathom why you're so against this. What difference does it make to you if a hair stylist is added or not? Don't use it then! But just because you don't have a need for one doesn't mean there shouldn't be one at all.
You're literally flailing around like a fish out of water trying to back up your ridiculous arguments and it's just not working. At this point I'm just reading your responses for a good laugh.
And anyway, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume we're going to be getting a hair stylist or something similar. Notice how Gaile hasn't jumped into the thread yet to disappoint everyone? This is a pretty big topic now, I'm pretty sure we would have been told by now if it wasn't going in.
You're literally flailing around like a fish out of water trying to back up your ridiculous arguments and it's just not working. At this point I'm just reading your responses for a good laugh.
And anyway, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume we're going to be getting a hair stylist or something similar. Notice how Gaile hasn't jumped into the thread yet to disappoint everyone? This is a pretty big topic now, I'm pretty sure we would have been told by now if it wasn't going in.
oceanicdemigod
And the fact that the OFFICIAL GW WIKI Armor Gallery pictures clearly show Faces from one campaign with Hairstyles from another is not going to work in favor of Hairstylist Nay-Sayers or in favor of ANET saying its impossible etc. Because it's possible...even if not in the game itself.
I mean They managed to change our whole GENDER IN GAME for April Fool's Day...Hairsyles should then be a piece of cake
::heres hoping for a new Gold Sink ^_^::
I mean They managed to change our whole GENDER IN GAME for April Fool's Day...Hairsyles should then be a piece of cake
::heres hoping for a new Gold Sink ^_^::
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by oceanicdemigod
::heres hoping for a new Gold Sink ^_^::
As long as its pure Gold-to-NPC and no ebay controlled items.
Legeon
I'm pretty sure there's no hair stylist, guys. They don't want to confirm that though because the game is almost out and it may affect sales by saying "No there isn't a hair stylist in the game".
Avatara
buy the WoW expansion... at least Blizzard listens to what fans from other games want. :P
errrr strange ^^
errrr strange ^^
Paloma Song
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
Are you serious? Do you even read what you're responding to? And you have the nerve to tell other posters to "read more carefully"? Or are you just trolling, as indicated by your comment: "this going back and fourth {sic} thing is getting old it was fun getting people going on for 16 pages but its {sic} getting old"? Whatever you think you're up to, no one is fooled, let alone convinced, by your tautology.
In any case, character deletion isn't a game mechanic or a "cost" on a game mechanics level, any more than quitting the game is. Game mechanics are what happen inside the game, as part of the active gameplay, not as part of the meta-decisions you make about your account. So claiming that character deletion/re-rolling is a high-cost hairstylist-system already embedded in the game mechanics, is pure nonsense.
ElinoraNeSangre
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Originally Posted by Paloma Song
In any case, character deletion isn't a game mechanic or a "cost" on a game mechanics level, any more than quitting the game is. Game mechanics are what happen inside the game, as part of the active gameplay, not as part of the meta-decisions you make about your account. So claiming that character deletion/re-rolling is a high-cost hairstylist-system already embedded in the game mechanics, is pure nonsense.
Not only that, but it completely disregards the majority of the point: people want to change their hair to that in campaigns that are not their campaign of origin. People want their Tyrian characters to have Elonian hair. There is no way to do that no matter HOW you cut it. :P
Elbereth Tiniquetil
Can I just say that from reading all his posts that I think that White Knight is trolling and has hijacked this discussion
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I have asked for the hairdresser feature for the last 24months and yes I have characters that are that old, I have 4 accounts all with each release and with all them slots I have only 1 character slot free, I hate to delete any character, they have too much emotions invested into them.
Knight It’s not a matter of that I should have made it right the first time, but that as a player I evolve and my character evolve with me, deleting is a last resort, and not one made lightly. A hair change is a small request that has not impact on you, the game or the storyline.
Would it not be fun to attend a guild dance with a new hairstyle just for the night? Or if a much loved character died would you not like the option to cut your hair shot as a sign of respect to the departed?
IMO A hairstylist is not needed but would be a welcome change allowing for a greater RPG element in the game.
BTW did someone say clone characters before?
Want to see a clone
then visit Pre-searing Am dist 1 when all the Dolls to the walls are on, we make for a good show.
WinterSnowblind
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Originally Posted by Avatara
buy the WoW expansion... at least Blizzard listens to what fans from other games want. :P
errrr strange ^^ That's a completely different discussion. People pay monthly to get updates like that from Blizzard, while Guild Wars is completely free. We don't pay for it, and technically, they don't owe us anything, and yet they continue to update and add new features to the game. In my opinion, Anet are some of the best developers out there for listening to the fans.
And we need to keep this topic bumped just so they know how badly we want this feature.
errrr strange ^^ That's a completely different discussion. People pay monthly to get updates like that from Blizzard, while Guild Wars is completely free. We don't pay for it, and technically, they don't owe us anything, and yet they continue to update and add new features to the game. In my opinion, Anet are some of the best developers out there for listening to the fans.
And we need to keep this topic bumped just so they know how badly we want this feature.
LobsterMobster
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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
That's a completely different discussion. People pay monthly to get updates like that from Blizzard, while Guild Wars is completely free. We don't pay for it, and technically, they don't owe us anything, and yet they continue to update and add new features to the game. In my opinion, Anet are some of the best developers out there for listening to the fans.
And we need to keep this topic bumped just so they know how badly we want this feature. WinterSnowblind, your comment is well taken and I hope you don't interpret this as a personal attack, but...
I feel this is the kind of mentality that endangers the future of online gaming. It suggests that the only reason for a team to continue to support a game and the only way that's possible is through a subscription fee, and anything else is insignificant. The truth is, Guild Wars is NOT completely free. I paid $50 for Prophecies. $50 for Factions. $50 for Nightfall. I will pay a total of $40 for EotN. I've bought about 4 additional character slots for another $40. I bought the Game of the Year upgrade for $5.
So you're telling me that even though I've spent at least $235 on their game, I'm not a customer?
And we need to keep this topic bumped just so they know how badly we want this feature. WinterSnowblind, your comment is well taken and I hope you don't interpret this as a personal attack, but...
I feel this is the kind of mentality that endangers the future of online gaming. It suggests that the only reason for a team to continue to support a game and the only way that's possible is through a subscription fee, and anything else is insignificant. The truth is, Guild Wars is NOT completely free. I paid $50 for Prophecies. $50 for Factions. $50 for Nightfall. I will pay a total of $40 for EotN. I've bought about 4 additional character slots for another $40. I bought the Game of the Year upgrade for $5.
So you're telling me that even though I've spent at least $235 on their game, I'm not a customer?