I think we should have to earn some hairstyles and colors, like seriously earn them. I know some time ago people where talking about "Neon" colored hair, so I suggested (and still think it a good idea) that we involve major quests to get such an exotic hair coloring.
It'd make you feel more perfected if it was something you also earned.
Hair Stylists?
Neriandal Freit
MithranArkanere
Well... there are no professions with obsidian black, really pitch black hair.
Just by allowing dye by having dies in the inventory, and the NPC showing possible combinations with the dyes we have...
Just by allowing dye by having dies in the inventory, and the NPC showing possible combinations with the dyes we have...
Operative 14
Quote:
It'd make you feel more perfected if it was something you also earned. Definately
like a finished campaign and 5k-10k perhaps.
X Salvation X
http://www.gamespot.com/video/938739...walk-through-1
Go to 1:16 for your answer.
Go to 1:16 for your answer.
GloryFox
Quote:
Guild Wars Eye of the North is filled with all sorts of new ways for existing guild wars players to change the look and appearance of their existing characters. It comes with 40 new sets of armor across the 10 professions including special non set pieces like the special Magma Hands, and awesome Ninja Mask. That are usable by any profession. Although Ben says "look and appearance" he could be referring to one of three possibilities.
a) The ability to change your physical non armored look.
b) The ability to change your look through armor and special non set pieces of armor.
c) Both a and b
Until we hear from ANET the statement is both factual and vague at the same time.
So we are left at an impasse
Bryant Again
Quote:
Originally Posted by Operative 14
Definately like a finished campaign and 5k-10k perhaps.
For a haircut??? I'm not even rewarded that much in a mission.
like a finished campaign and 5k-10k perhaps.
For a haircut??? I'm not even rewarded that much in a mission.
Nevin
I think haircuts need to be categorized say....
Basic Haircuts - 500g
Fancy Haircuts - 1 platinum
Extravagant Haircuts - 2 platinum
Those are just filler names, but you get the point.
Basic Haircuts - 500g
Fancy Haircuts - 1 platinum
Extravagant Haircuts - 2 platinum
Those are just filler names, but you get the point.
pamelf
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
sorry pamelf but the video doesn't show any new facial hair options. It's just a NF monk.
Sorry yeah, my bad. I never looked at the male NF monks, and I totally understand why I've never seen him in game. He's a bit of an ugly mofo...
I still maintain though that 'look and appearance' customization doesn't just mean new armours, or at least I hope not because that would be pretty damn misleading...
I still maintain though that 'look and appearance' customization doesn't just mean new armours, or at least I hope not because that would be pretty damn misleading...
Julian
I really like the idea of getting any haircut from any campaign you own for one price,
and new haircuts from GWEN for a higher price. So I can have sweet prestige hair to match my sweet prestige armor.
In fact, this would help a lot with "I'm bored with this character". So much, in fact, that I will pre-order GWEN the hour they announce this feature, if they do.
and new haircuts from GWEN for a higher price. So I can have sweet prestige hair to match my sweet prestige armor.
In fact, this would help a lot with "I'm bored with this character". So much, in fact, that I will pre-order GWEN the hour they announce this feature, if they do.
MirandaKali
Apparently, WoW has thrown the gauntlet down. I'm sure GW will respond in kind...Can't have a hair stylist gap now. (...come to think of it, a new dance would be nice, too)
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/09/be...-dance-school/
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/09/be...-dance-school/
Operative 14
Quote:
Diablo???
Rhedd
I have a question...
What would be WRONG with people changing their hairstyles constantly?
What's wrong with people having fun in any way they want?
Why do people feel the need to limit other people's choices and enjoyment by making things hard to get, expensive, or "leet"?
Sorry. That was three questions. :P
For a short time, I played another MMORPG which allows you to change your hairstyle and color. A recent update increased the cost of a dyejob from about 3,000g to 6 MILLION gold. Why? I can only assume they thought the game was too fun, and wanted to put a stop to that sort of nonsense.
Please don't drag that attitude into GW.
What would be WRONG with people changing their hairstyles constantly?
What's wrong with people having fun in any way they want?
Why do people feel the need to limit other people's choices and enjoyment by making things hard to get, expensive, or "leet"?
Sorry. That was three questions. :P
For a short time, I played another MMORPG which allows you to change your hairstyle and color. A recent update increased the cost of a dyejob from about 3,000g to 6 MILLION gold. Why? I can only assume they thought the game was too fun, and wanted to put a stop to that sort of nonsense.
Please don't drag that attitude into GW.
Lady Lozza
Rhedd, I've personally no problems with hair styles. In fact I'd really like it.
I played Lineage 2 for quite some time and they had recipes for changing hair style and colour. You couldn't change bodies, there wasn't that sort of customisation available.
What does bother me would be the ability to alter complete appearance like you can armour. I've been over this in previous posts.
As for paying a lot of money for it... I'm of two minds:
1) Money would make certian things more of a status symbol, and therefore more likely to introduce a new type of elitism into the game. I'm against this. I'm against anything that might encourage players to ebay their gold.
2) Making it easy to get (in this case complete appearance changes - not just hair because as I've said hair changes don't bother me) creates a FoTM, clones running around - making them next to indistinguishable from bots, threatens the uniqueness of my characters, confuses the social aspect of the game - because we rely on appearance a lot, creates discrimination due to "fashion" factors, and places emphasis on the fact that the game is (in some ways) slowly pulling away from the RPG idea - and all these things would lessen the enjoyment of the game for me.
Neon hair... "Exotic" hair styles... I want hair and armour and weapons to have that "Guild Wars" style. Anything that makes it more cartoonish lessens the game.
I played Lineage 2 for quite some time and they had recipes for changing hair style and colour. You couldn't change bodies, there wasn't that sort of customisation available.
What does bother me would be the ability to alter complete appearance like you can armour. I've been over this in previous posts.
As for paying a lot of money for it... I'm of two minds:
1) Money would make certian things more of a status symbol, and therefore more likely to introduce a new type of elitism into the game. I'm against this. I'm against anything that might encourage players to ebay their gold.
2) Making it easy to get (in this case complete appearance changes - not just hair because as I've said hair changes don't bother me) creates a FoTM, clones running around - making them next to indistinguishable from bots, threatens the uniqueness of my characters, confuses the social aspect of the game - because we rely on appearance a lot, creates discrimination due to "fashion" factors, and places emphasis on the fact that the game is (in some ways) slowly pulling away from the RPG idea - and all these things would lessen the enjoyment of the game for me.
Neon hair... "Exotic" hair styles... I want hair and armour and weapons to have that "Guild Wars" style. Anything that makes it more cartoonish lessens the game.
Gregslot
Yea i would like to change my mesmer's hair and give him a beard. Beards give you wisdom, and mesmers should be wise, right?
Well, exepct for norgu, hes fat and has a mustache, mustache are for gays... no offense, but i allways remember Fred Mercury when i see a mustache ahahaha
Back to the topic: Yea! Let us edit characters and... sutff
Edit: And why in hell would i pay 15k to comb my hair? Even if you could change it for free you would barely change it, you obviously dont comb your hair differently every day, right? I mean... normal people dont, if you do it then... well... its your problem
Well, exepct for norgu, hes fat and has a mustache, mustache are for gays... no offense, but i allways remember Fred Mercury when i see a mustache ahahaha
Back to the topic: Yea! Let us edit characters and... sutff
Edit: And why in hell would i pay 15k to comb my hair? Even if you could change it for free you would barely change it, you obviously dont comb your hair differently every day, right? I mean... normal people dont, if you do it then... well... its your problem
pamelf
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregslot
Yea i would like to change my mesmer's hair and give him a beard. Beards give you wisdom, and mesmers should be wise, right?
Well, exepct for norgu, hes fat and has a mustache, mustache are for gays... no offense, but i allways remember Fred Mercury when i see a mustache ahahaha If Norgu isn't gay then I'm not straight... Nothing wrong with it, but seriously, Norgu as a character is definitely of the "I like men" persuasion. I've known gay men who were straighter than Norgu.
Well, exepct for norgu, hes fat and has a mustache, mustache are for gays... no offense, but i allways remember Fred Mercury when i see a mustache ahahaha If Norgu isn't gay then I'm not straight... Nothing wrong with it, but seriously, Norgu as a character is definitely of the "I like men" persuasion. I've known gay men who were straighter than Norgu.
Mordakai
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
2) Making it easy to get (in this case complete appearance changes - not just hair because as I've said hair changes don't bother me) creates a FoTM, clones running around - making them next to indistinguishable from bots, threatens the uniqueness of my characters, confuses the social aspect of the game - because we rely on appearance a lot, creates discrimination due to "fashion" factors, and places emphasis on the fact that the game is (in some ways) slowly pulling away from the RPG idea - and all these things would lessen the enjoyment of the game for me.
Huh? How would MORE options create more clones?
If anything, it would make people less the same. There's a reason people want FoW armor even though it may look like crap. It looks different from the majority. This is also why people create unique dye schemes, and mix and match armor pieces (and why the new armor modifiers are so awesome).
Fact is, there is only a limited amount of customization available for each chapter. You can't even make a Tyrian character with Elonian hair!
Guild Wars badly needs the ability for more customization, it's been a complaint since Factions, and if it doesn't happen in GWEN, I'm willing to bet GW2 will be much more flexible.
If anything, it would make people less the same. There's a reason people want FoW armor even though it may look like crap. It looks different from the majority. This is also why people create unique dye schemes, and mix and match armor pieces (and why the new armor modifiers are so awesome).
Fact is, there is only a limited amount of customization available for each chapter. You can't even make a Tyrian character with Elonian hair!
Guild Wars badly needs the ability for more customization, it's been a complaint since Factions, and if it doesn't happen in GWEN, I'm willing to bet GW2 will be much more flexible.
MirandaKali
Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
If Norgu isn't gay then I'm not straight... Nothing wrong with it, but seriously, Norgu as a character is definitely of the "I like men" persuasion. I've known gay men who were straighter than Norgu.
Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that if we do get a stylist, it'll be a male mesmer. (with an outfit that even Doug Henning would find a bit flamboyant).
Ahhhh...stereotypes.
What'ld be REALLY funny is a Norn warrior with an axe and a barber chair (he'ld have to be named Percy or some such and have a pink roller beetle as a pet, though)
Ahhhh...stereotypes.
What'ld be REALLY funny is a Norn warrior with an axe and a barber chair (he'ld have to be named Percy or some such and have a pink roller beetle as a pet, though)
MithranArkanere
Or an asura with a magic stick of hair stilism.
Or a Kournan Centaur Hairdresser that loves to abuse 'Koss Gloss'.
Whatever it is, it would be great having different hairstyles available in different NPCs.
Or a Kournan Centaur Hairdresser that loves to abuse 'Koss Gloss'.
Whatever it is, it would be great having different hairstyles available in different NPCs.
Lady Lozza
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
If anything, it would make people less the same. There's a reason people want FoW armor even though it may look like crap. It looks different from the majority. This is also why people create unique dye schemes, and mix and match armor pieces (and why the new armor modifiers are so awesome).
Fact is, there is only a limited amount of customization available for each chapter. You can't even make a Tyrian character with Elonian hair!
Guild Wars badly needs the ability for more customization, it's been a complaint since Factions, and if it doesn't happen in GWEN, I'm willing to bet GW2 will be much more flexible.
From earlier in the thread
Quote:
I think the only reason that they wouldn't allow any character customization is because that ANet believes that you shouldn't be allowed to change him|
... the - "Oh I need to look like an Arabian belly dancer for 15k Sunspear, oh and now a European ice princess for 15k aero" is something I would rather avoid seeing in game, and before you say it isn't likely to happen just think about fashion in the real world. If you are male, you probably haven't made its acquaintance yet, so let me introduce you. Shadow, this is fashion. Being a female, I've a more intimate knowledge of fashion than I really care to have. I've my style, which isn't fashionable, and I stick to it because it is what I like and it looks good on me. But the social world of many young women actually revolves around fashion. They pick friends by the clothes they wear, the shoes, the accessories, the colour and cut of their hair, their makeup, and how frequently they visit the tanning salon in any given season. All these things are fashion, and to many young women they change with every season. A look becomes flavour of the month and they strive to emulate it. But this is a game, you might say. True, but real people play it. Real people who have the same concerns in real life that (possibly quite accidently) do carry across to the game. To see examples of this you only have to browse through the screenshot pages to see things like "oh, that armour looks great on ________" and pages later, "I just had to create another ________ because this armour looks so great on the character." Right back before Factions came out, before titles, when playtime and bonuses and all sorts of other things were unimportant, players WOULD recreate their characters to look like others if they found that "look" to be appealing to them at that time, afterall, there wasn't too much to do once you'd finished the game so why not? To have all character creation options available to all characters all the time WILL bring flavour of the month into play. It's not simply a possibilty, history and society says it WILL happen. I've said many times over in this thread. I'd like a hair stylist. I'd like to grab a dye job, or a cut, or some hair gel. I'd like even MORE options to be introduced on that score. But changing character appearance like you can armour is something I'd rather not see.
Bryant Again
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
I've said many times over in this thread. I'd like a hair stylist. I'd like to grab a dye job, or a cut, or some hair gel. I'd like even MORE options to be introduced on that score. But changing character appearance like you can armour is something I'd rather not see.
Are you worried about being able to customize your characters appearance completely, straight down to their hair, face and skin tone?
Neriandal Freit
Changing their face is extreme though, have to keep that in mind. Something that extreme should be very hard to acquire, and very expensive at that.
Jongo River
We have an extreme make-over system already - you can change *anything* you like, but have to re-do every quest/mission/title etc. The whole point is to make change easier, not keep it a total PITA.
Personally, I'd prefer this not to be an "in-game" feature, with costs and hoops to jump through. I'd rather just have a character editor, to change my avatar, without any hassle. I've yet to hear a good argument against that.
White knight lord
I say If you want to be able to change your character the individual should have to go to the Anet facilities. Then go through all the existing Codes,Files, and all that other good stuff and then they can change their char.
But I will say if they do add this feature I would be for the "Wig" system making new hair styles for existing chars like the holiday hats.
geriand
look its very simple what we will probs be doing
GW:EN is set 6 years after Prophecies, yes So when we take our characters into GW:EN i am guessing their will be a customization option to show that they have aged!!! you can't go 6 years wid out aging and NF removed that factor as your characters seemed to travel through time we will probs get a brand new set of faces and hairstyles that look older and more mature compared to the Proph, Fac, NF ones to show hat our hero is a seasoned veteran
Bryant Again
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongo River
|
...
That isn't really a good argument, but it is their game, after all. However, the reason I asked the question in post #221 is because it sounded like Lady Lozza was worried about people changing their appearance altogether, straight down to their face. I highly, highly doubt that'll happen. I'm not even holding my breath for a hair stylist. I have full faith that ANet will not allow a "plastic surgeon" into your game, because holy shit that's extreme.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by White knight lord
But I will say if they do add this feature I would be for the "Wig" system making new hair styles for existing chars like the holiday hats.
There we go again. Why do we have to gimp ourselves in order to change our hair?
Nevin
Hey heres a concept no ones thought of. I mean everyone seems to be spooked out about people changing their styles every other day. Why not set a timed limit then?
Simple as, You can only get your haircut once a month. So that way, every 30 days you can get a haircut. Not ridiculously too long or short of a wait.
GloryFox
Quote:
posted by Nevin | Hey heres a concept no ones thought of. I mean everyone seems to be spooked out about people changing their styles every other day. Why not set a timed limit then? Who the frak cares what I do with my character its my character. If there is a hair stylist and I want to pay 1k for the change thats my business not your business or anyone else's. Its like saying to a guild. "Now that you have selected a cape you are stuck with your choice unless you pay an outrageous fee of 10k and you can't change it for an entire GvG match season." A cape just like hair is an outward adornment nothing more nothing less. and thank goodness a cape is only 2k to change. Also if people do select the same hair I have I want to be able to get something else ASAP.
Neriandal Freit
I'm really starting to think this topic needs to be shut down..
MithranArkanere
Well... we already have the overall opinion.
Most of people agree with hari style changes. Many people agree with hair color changes. Some people agree with very limited face changes. Few agree with limited full design changes. A very little few agree with unlimited full total customization. And not many people talked about skin tone changes. For me, I'll just go to hair style changes limited by gold only, color changes limited by gold and dyes, and once face change per charecter (without access to faces of other campaigns) in their entire life, after their ascension or after ending the campaign they were born. That would suffice for old Tyrian to get the new faces and everyone being happy. I'll go to get one Hairdresser in each Event Town (Kamadan, Shing Jea and Lion's Arch) that only has availabls Hair styles of their regions, so tohave an Elonian with Canthan Hair, you'll have to get it to Cantha.
White knight lord
Quote:
Originally Posted by White knight lord
I say If you want to be able to change your character the individual should have to go to the Anet facilities. Then go through all the existing Codes,Files, and all that other good stuff and then they can change their char.
Sounds reasonable
Nevin
Quote:
Originally Posted by White knight lord
Sounds reasonable
You just quoted yourself, and agreed with yourself.
Buster
No hairstylists and no barbershops atleast for now please. I am hoping in GW2 we can have a better character customizations when you initially make your character for the first time.
Bryant Again
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
You just quoted yourself, and agreed with yourself.
He still hasn't answered my question - why should we have to pay so much for a hairchange?
Neo Nugget
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/2408/gw247cc2.jpg
Can you see gaile's writing on that?Might be too small. Anyway she says its unlikely in her opinion
Bryant Again
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/2408/gw247cc2.jpg
 Can you see gaile's writing on that?Might be too small. Anyway she says its unlikely in her opinion
Ever since this series of her posts, I haven't been wanting to take in much of what she says. I'm still not holding my breath on the hairstylists, though.
Craywulf
I'm all for customization of your own characters, but then if ArenaNet gave free reign to have any skin, it wouldn't be Guild Wars anymore. It would be a bunch of freakish and tacky characters that have little or nothing to do with the fantasy theme. I don't want Homer Simpson, Batman, Wolverine or even the Burger King skin in Guild Wars. Bottom line is that customization puts load on ArenaNet's servers. If we have 4 million characters that are all visually unique, that would take a lot of coding for ArenaNet to process.
I do think customization is possible, but it has to have limits. The key is to have enough pieces such as hairstyles to keep gamers content. I would hope that GW2 allows for both permanent and temporary visual customizations. Permanent would be things like your height, weight and frame (as in Warrior, Mesmer body styles), eye color, brow shape, nose, ears, chin and and head shape. Even select your preference of natural posture. These are details are what gamers are ultimately looking for. The temporary stuff that should be customizable is your mood, your dances. things like armor and clothes should still be based on primary professions, just for the sake of other players can identify who you are and what skills you might be using. I think hairstyling can work but it has have limits because realistically your hair can only take so much before you start damaging it. I think ArenaNet can set a time limit before you can alter the color, choose a style that requires longer hair than your current style. Perhaps you need to play 21 hours (roughly a week of gaming 3 hrs per day x 7 days = 21 hrs) before you can dye it a different color and 84 hours (roughly a month of gaming 21 hrs per week x 4 weeks = 84 hrs) to grow a beard or longer hair style. Of course this would cost you money and you'd be limited to the styles in different locations. One thing I fear is people mixing the gender-specific styles for a humorous effect, such as bunch of bearded female Monks or a male Warrior with giant purple beehive hairdo your grandma wears. I have nothing against mixing styles for mysterious effect or the themes that goes along with fantasy themes of Guild Wars.
Matfei
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
id they do have a hair stylist i hope you can pick hairs/new colors from the 3 campaigns along with a few new ones.
And if they can do a hair stylist.....why not a plastic surgeon:P There are a few characters which are so ugly i swear i created them in my sleep *cough my warrior*but i really wouldnt get my hopes up Re-Roll if your not happy with the face.
Neriandal Freit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matfei
Hair is OK; it can naturally be changed... Faces, I don't think so. It's good to keep something of a character the same; its not like you wake up in the morning and put on a new face after all!
Re-Roll if your not happy with the face. Here Here! Another one agrees!
lacasner
./agreed for more character customization.
|
