Hair Stylists?
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic
Haha, this will work, nudge nudge, wink wink!
I most likely gaurenteed that will not work GW is not WoW and thank goodness. Why add things to make another game that is alerady out there? GW is way better then WoW imo id rather sacrafice a noc then have GW get any closer to WoW.
Starsky-sama
/imo.
Basically what was the point of GW having character creation and options of hair/hair color before you begin the game...if you could just fool around with it later on. (they would need to scrap that part of the system completely)
*You could always use "headgear" if your bored with showing/or looking at your current hairstyle. (vice versa).
*A Hairstylist npc would be a good gold sink for the game, but at this stage I do not see the point of altering our characters when we've worked so hard on them and created their own image/personalities which then sets them up nicely towards GW2. (ofcourse, speculating on link to GW2 if any.)
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lil-offtopic since it's suppose to be a "Hairstylists" thread but since others have commented on it in this thread already:
*Changing Face, Gender, Name. Again, this would scrap their whole system of character creation at start...simple as that...
*We all know these would all be easily abused. (Anet does want to clearly identify each players' characters as it is.)
*I do agree on the comment that by having these implemented suggests that ppl want to change the core of their character w/o doing all the work again from scratch. (imo that's what empty character slots are for)
*If these ideas were ever implemented, everyone would just go generic and skip to the name creation. ta-da! lol
/just-my-2-loonies-on-the-thread.
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/g'day.
Basically what was the point of GW having character creation and options of hair/hair color before you begin the game...if you could just fool around with it later on. (they would need to scrap that part of the system completely)
*You could always use "headgear" if your bored with showing/or looking at your current hairstyle. (vice versa).
*A Hairstylist npc would be a good gold sink for the game, but at this stage I do not see the point of altering our characters when we've worked so hard on them and created their own image/personalities which then sets them up nicely towards GW2. (ofcourse, speculating on link to GW2 if any.)
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lil-offtopic since it's suppose to be a "Hairstylists" thread but since others have commented on it in this thread already:
*Changing Face, Gender, Name. Again, this would scrap their whole system of character creation at start...simple as that...
*We all know these would all be easily abused. (Anet does want to clearly identify each players' characters as it is.)
*I do agree on the comment that by having these implemented suggests that ppl want to change the core of their character w/o doing all the work again from scratch. (imo that's what empty character slots are for)
*If these ideas were ever implemented, everyone would just go generic and skip to the name creation. ta-da! lol
/just-my-2-loonies-on-the-thread.
./g'day.
GloryFox
Honestly I wonder about posters like the one above me who believe that everyone should think and feel the way they do and to hell with people who want to make changes to things they did 2 years ago. (I digress to say much more least I become like them)
For PvP it’s easy to make a change on a character just take 3 minutes and remake one. You may simply apply any skills you want and go. The cost is zero IMO.
For PvE however I need to buy all my skills again over 125k depending on the character, buy all of my armor again, (15k sets in my case or 100k total for materials) Weapons again, that’s about another 40k and runes 20k, and not to mention I now have an incentive to keep my character because of birthday mini pets. That cost exceeds 285k to 300k plus the hours needed to grind sunspear points again when I could have been adventuring or farming. So another net loss of 100k re earning skills etc… that means a net loss of over 400k just for a f**ing hair change.
Remember PvE is all about the experience. Just as your favorit build changes so does your idea of what your character appears like. ANET please allow hair changes, create a better experience for PvE players.
SIDE NOTE: Now if ANET unlocked your PvE account with all of your unlocked skills like they do in PvP I would simply make a new character for better hair and a better name, unfortunately they don’t.
For PvP it’s easy to make a change on a character just take 3 minutes and remake one. You may simply apply any skills you want and go. The cost is zero IMO.
For PvE however I need to buy all my skills again over 125k depending on the character, buy all of my armor again, (15k sets in my case or 100k total for materials) Weapons again, that’s about another 40k and runes 20k, and not to mention I now have an incentive to keep my character because of birthday mini pets. That cost exceeds 285k to 300k plus the hours needed to grind sunspear points again when I could have been adventuring or farming. So another net loss of 100k re earning skills etc… that means a net loss of over 400k just for a f**ing hair change.
Remember PvE is all about the experience. Just as your favorit build changes so does your idea of what your character appears like. ANET please allow hair changes, create a better experience for PvE players.
SIDE NOTE: Now if ANET unlocked your PvE account with all of your unlocked skills like they do in PvP I would simply make a new character for better hair and a better name, unfortunately they don’t.
just rude
changing your toons appearance is a minor thing, it should have been implemented earlier, its so client side with uber small pushes its crazy.
but w/e u think is wrong. LOL
but w/e u think is wrong. LOL
Perfected Shadow
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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
Not cool.
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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
I'm selfish. I don't want people walking around looking lilke my characters simply because their look has become the flavour of the month. I recreated my characters to look fairly unique, and I'd like it to stay that way. Certainly it means that certain armours don't look so great on my characters - the only reason that I've not bought Vabbian for my ele - but that doesn't bother me. I have a choice of other armour which does look very good on her.
I'm selfish, I want to be unique, and I'm not afraid to admit it. This is the reason I support a hair stylist and NOT a plastic surgeon or tanning salon. Hair stylist has the ability to ADD variety to the game, the other two will only detract from it. My selfish attitude is not beside the point. It is the point. This is about something I want and something I don't want - not won't use - don't want to see ever. You said you created your characters to be unique so how do you know, that if char customization is implemented, that people would start copying your look? And if some do, then you could change as well to be unique again .Furthermore I'm thankful that very few (if any) share your views and are selfish to that extent.
The Sender
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Originally Posted by LobsterMobster
Has Gaile confirmed or denied that there'll be a hair stylist NPC or some other way to change appearance? I know at one point a long time ago a dev said it was a good idea and they didn't see why they wouldn't be able to do it, and it is one of the most widely requested features. Maybe they're holding off to announce it as a surprise? *wishful thinking*
I haven't read the entire thread so someone may have already said this, but they said there's going to be more ways to customize your character. So that could be it.
lucifer_uk
The way its been treated as hush hush, It makes me quietly excited about it coming soon. I would wait till GW:EN comes and if there isn't one then start pounding out this thread again.
Jongo River
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Originally Posted by Starsky-sama
Basically what was the point of GW having character creation and options of hair/hair color before you begin the game...if you could just fool around with it later on. (they would need to scrap that part of the system completely)
Sorry, but absolute rubbish. If Anet allowed characters to be completely re-edited, it would obviously be via the current editor. Nothing would be scrapped. Even if changes were limited to a hair-stylist NPC, I still fail to see how you could consider that would make character creation redundant. It's like saying "some people are having cosmetic surgery, so I guess we can get rid of the maternity wards"...
In my view, the type of person who wants to edit their character, is probably the type of person who spent half an hour or more tinkering with options the first time, getting just the right look for how they wanted their character to be at the time. But now, 6...12...24 months later, is ready for something new, without the trauma of delete/re-start - and what on earth is wrong with that?
Cherrie
I've said it numerous times... I'd love to have a hair stylist!
I've created my main character when only first Campaign was out, and played her quite hard... When Factions came out, I saw much more appealing hair style (and even much more appealing face...) but I didn't feel like playing xxx hours over again to reroll. With Nightfall hairstyles I feel like I want to change my characters hair even more, but since I have numerous hard-gained titles already, taht ain't likely to happen. And about a plastic surgeon... I do agree that the idea of people changing apperance all the time doesn't suit me much, but... other campaigns did add new gorgeous faces... How about, one face change per character? I know exactly which face I'd chose now, having all posible ones to chose from. LobsterMobster
The Sender, no one else had said that, so thank you.
It'd be cool if they put in a plastic surgeon and each time you visited them your selection of new faces would become more and more inhuman and creepy, until eventually you'd look like Michael Jackson.
Neriandal Freit
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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow
So deleting all your char's achievements (with the exception of account based titles), equipment, etc just to be able to customize is cool? Again if you don't want to change your character's appearance would it hurt if others could?
How did you get from my post that deleting equals customization? It was said as simply creating a new character yet, not doing anything with that new body and keeping those you've listed above. Things like that should have to be obtained on each character.
Now, unless your one of the Forgotten Realm Chosen (of any of the Gods that have them), this shouldn't be allowed by a long shot. Changing of hair, eye color, and other minor, minor things yes. But never to complete change your entire look. Cause if you do that, I think you should have to complete all the missions again! It just shouldn't be an option. There are far more people who are seeking the color changing of Hair then anything else. I also presume it is safe to say that most of us true Guildwars Players are not wanting the option availability to completely change a characters appearance in such a way that he/she doesn't look like the person we created.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
I also presume it is safe to say that most of us true Guildwars Players are not wanting the option availability to completely change a characters appearance in such a way that he/she doesn't look like the person we created.
Lets have a poll and find out.
This ain't D&D. We can change our attributes, our secondary profession, our armor... Why can't we get a face-lift as well? Make it cost lots of money so it won't be done all the time, and the original character creation will still mean something.
jesh
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I'd love to totally change character appearance. As for plastic surgery being unrealistic, don't forget that magic exists in the GW world. It wouldn't be cutting and stitching, just a wave of the wand.
My opinions on it as a "gold sink" aren't too high, though. The average player has less than 20k. I can't see it reasonably costing more than 1k to change everything. Preferably much less.
I think hair changes should cost the least, maybe 100-200g. Skin changes more.. 400g. And face changes the most, maybe 1k.
However, I'll take anything I can get. As other people have stated, I'd buy GW:EN just to change hair. Yeah.
I don't like the hat/wig idea. I want the same changes to be in effect if I actually decide to do something like.. oh.. I don't know. VENTURE OUT OF TOWN. Walking around with 0 armor just to look pretty isn't my idea of fun, especially since I find myself monking a lot.
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In my view, the type of person who wants to edit their character, is probably the type of person who spent half an hour or more tinkering with options the first time, getting just the right look for how they wanted their character to be at the time. But now, 6...12...24 months later, is ready for something new, without the trauma of delete/re-start - and what on earth is wrong with that?
At least 2 hours.. for all 13.
Ill say it again in different words...I wouldnt mind a hairstylist. That is minor. /TheEnd.
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In my view, the type of person who wants to edit their character, is probably the type of person who spent half an hour or more tinkering with options the first time, getting just the right look for how they wanted their character to be at the time. But now, 6...12...24 months later, is ready for something new, without the trauma of delete/re-start - and what on earth is wrong with that?
Again, minor ones are no problem and would help spice up the game.
But total customization of existing characters (the major ones), using common sense, if Anet wanted the game to go that way, they would have already done it eons ago. As it is their system, and as it is already restrictive as it is, they have an understandable reason(s) for keeping it the way it is, which is to clearly keep track of players characters. simple as that.
I did make a slight forum oversight:(/doh on my part. ) I didnt add IMO everywhere when I usually do for all my posts, or I know someone will get offended...somehow.../weird.
Well dude I must say sucks for you should have thought bout that.It is a damned game not real life folks, lol, you may want to costomize your char but all your doing is trying to complicate the game even more with mistakes your unhappy with about your characters. I don't know what you're reading, but it seems like a vast majority of the people posting in this topic, and others, have not made mistakes that they are unhappy about with their characters. Almost all of them are people who put a lot of thought into their characters when they first created them, and yet they want to be able to customize their apperance after more than a year of gameplay. After hundreds of platinum invested in armor, weapons, and various other accoutrement's. After hundreds of hours invested over the life time of the character. And not to mention the sentimental value that people place upon their characters; something which you seem to lack, which is perfectly fine of course.
Quite frankly, I do not understand what your issue is with this; throughout this topic you have militantly been against the idea of letting other people have the ability to choose their hairstyles. And yet you have not been able to come up with a single reason to not do it other than that you think it would be a waste of time. And yes, I think if you asked everyone here, they would understand that this is a game and not real life. However, I think it is prudent to point out that this is infact a Role Playing Game, therefore people should be able to have the ability to customize the apperance of their characters to the utmost limit.
Not everyone is willing to throw away their time and effort that they have spent on their characters like you for something as simple as a hair cut, nor should you try to force them to do so.
Here's a question for you; How often do you change your desktop wallpaper? Have you changed it in the last year? Two years? If you changed it in the last two years, "I must say sucks for you should have thought bout that."
Not everyone is willing to throw away their time and effort that they have spent on their characters like you for something as simple as a hair cut, nor should you try to force them to do so.
You said you created your characters to be unique so how do you know, that if char customization is implemented, that people would start copying your look? And if some do, then you could change as well to be unique again .
Furthermore I'm thankful that very few (if any) share your views and are selfish to that extent.
With all due respect, you may wish to think about what this topic is about. A hair stylist is a wish, want, desire - it is not a need. We are ALL being selfish in our campaigning for what we want (or don't want), but I doubt very few people are willing to admit it.Quote:
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Originally Posted by pixiLated
I know from this thread that there are some that consider this to be superfluous to the game, but there are a hell of a lot of us who would really love this addition for the additional depth it would bring on many levels. And so long as there isn't the ability to alter your chars appearance ingame, I shall continue to add my voice to the voices of others that would like to see this addition too.
You don't want it, don't use it. But those of us that do want it will continue to ask for it. I lub you.
Neriandal Freit
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Lets have a poll and find out.
This ain't D&D. We can change our attributes, our secondary profession, our armor... Why can't we get a face-lift as well? Make it cost lots of money so it won't be done all the time, and the original character creation will still mean something. Any real poll created would have to be placed on the main GuildwarsGuru site, spanned across a few other Guildwar Forums (I only use this one, so I know others only use gwonline, etc.) for a accurate vote. Not worth it. If, if if if, they implement this, this would seriously have to cost twice the amount of FoW armor with an insane amount of materials, XP sacrafice (that would be a twist) and other things for it to be done.
MithranArkanere
For hair change, it would be nice just paying 1k or something like that.
For hair dying, it would be funny having the NPC stylist asking you to get the dies yourself, hehe... black or white hair would be quite expensive... hehehe... The NPC could chech the dyes you have in your inventory, and present the possible options that can be acquired with such dyes. For body... that'a a different thing. Heroes can have a secondary... Can change that secondary... He have seen their bodies 'burning' after defeating the Doppleganger... Since many faces where added after many characters where created, it would be fair to give them a chance to use those faces. Each character could have such a chance after their ascension... just once time. Deleting a character will NEVER be an option. Anet wants people buying more slots, not deleting the characters we have. That's why miniatures are given to characters, and not to accounts. A 2 years old character deserves more than being deleted.
jesh
2x FoW cost? What a joke. It's a haircut for god's sake.
Neriandal Freit
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Originally Posted by jesh
2x FoW cost? What a joke. It's a haircut for god's sake.
Did you not read that in response to an entire "Plastic Surgeon", or just presume that I mean 2x FoW Cost for hair?
Check the post again please.
jesh
Skipped over the quote. I still think it's a bit much. How much do you think for hair/skin?
Jongo River
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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
If, if if if, they implement this, this would seriously have to cost twice the amount of FoW armor with an insane amount of materials, XP sacrafice (that would be a twist) and other things for it to be done.
That's just crazy, appearance isn't an economy balancing issue. Or are you suggesting a penalty, simply because you resent the idea so much?
Take a deep breath and think carefully - exactly how will it affect *you* if, someone else gets to change the appearance of their character?
Starsky-sama
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
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Ill say it again in different words...I wouldnt mind a hairstylist. That is minor. /TheEnd.
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But total customization of existing characters (the major ones), using common sense, if Anet wanted the game to go that way, they would have already done it eons ago. As it is their system, and as it is already restrictive as it is, they have an understandable reason(s) for keeping it the way it is, which is to clearly keep track of players characters. simple as that.
I did make a slight forum oversight:(/doh on my part.
Neriandal Freit
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Originally Posted by Jongo River
That's just crazy, appearance isn't an economy balancing issue. Or are you suggesting a penalty, simply because you resent the idea so much?
Take a deep breath and think carefully - exactly how will it affect *you* if, someone else gets to change the appearance of their character? No, not crazy thinking at all. Crazy is getting plastic surgery done on your body, that's crazy. It also costs a crazy price to have it done.
So, for those of you who want to do that in any way, shape or form other then changing your hair style/color, then I think you should also have to pay a crazy amount to get your entire face recreated.
Cause if you people want real-world things like plastic surgery into a "Life Like" Fantasy Game Guildwars is, then you should have to pay the price.
Take a deep breath and think carefully - exactly how will it affect *you* if, someone else gets to change the appearance of their character? No, not crazy thinking at all. Crazy is getting plastic surgery done on your body, that's crazy. It also costs a crazy price to have it done.
So, for those of you who want to do that in any way, shape or form other then changing your hair style/color, then I think you should also have to pay a crazy amount to get your entire face recreated.
Cause if you people want real-world things like plastic surgery into a "Life Like" Fantasy Game Guildwars is, then you should have to pay the price.
Bryant Again
Now that WoW has announced some form of hair customization, Guild Wars will probably follow. Remember "hide helm"?
Clord
Wolrd where humans rely to magic and Dwarves more technology, it makes sense under those rules that humans have possibly developed use of magic to everyday live, including services to shape your body via magic.
LobsterMobster
Or perhaps a magical implement that can sever strands of hair at a determined length. They could call this device "scissors."
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
Honestly I wonder about posters like the one above me who believe that everyone should think and feel the way they do and to hell with people who want to make changes to things they did 2 years ago. (I digress to say much more least I become like them)
For PvP it’s easy to make a change on a character just take 3 minutes and remake one. You may simply apply any skills you want and go. The cost is zero IMO.
For PvE however I need to buy all my skills again over 125k depending on the character, buy all of my armor again, (15k sets in my case or 100k total for materials) Weapons again, that’s about another 40k and runes 20k, and not to mention I now have an incentive to keep my character because of birthday mini pets. That cost exceeds 285k to 300k plus the hours needed to grind sunspear points again when I could have been adventuring or farming. So another net loss of 100k re earning skills etc… that means a net loss of over 400k just for a f**ing hair change.
Remember PvE is all about the experience. Just as your favorit build changes so does your idea of what your character appears like. ANET please allow hair changes, create a better experience for PvE players.
SIDE NOTE: Now if ANET unlocked your PvE account with all of your unlocked skills like they do in PvP I would simply make a new character for better hair and a better name, unfortunately they don’t.
Well dude I must say sucks for you should have thought bout that.It is a damned game not real life folks, lol, you may want to costomize your char but all your doing is trying to complicate the game even more with mistakes your unhappy with about your characters. If they do implament this it should be realistic prices plastic surgery is outrageous in r/l so its only right the prices should be realistic and I can most likely gaurentee they didn't use wands to change what they didn't like about them selves.
For PvP it’s easy to make a change on a character just take 3 minutes and remake one. You may simply apply any skills you want and go. The cost is zero IMO.
For PvE however I need to buy all my skills again over 125k depending on the character, buy all of my armor again, (15k sets in my case or 100k total for materials) Weapons again, that’s about another 40k and runes 20k, and not to mention I now have an incentive to keep my character because of birthday mini pets. That cost exceeds 285k to 300k plus the hours needed to grind sunspear points again when I could have been adventuring or farming. So another net loss of 100k re earning skills etc… that means a net loss of over 400k just for a f**ing hair change.
Remember PvE is all about the experience. Just as your favorit build changes so does your idea of what your character appears like. ANET please allow hair changes, create a better experience for PvE players.
SIDE NOTE: Now if ANET unlocked your PvE account with all of your unlocked skills like they do in PvP I would simply make a new character for better hair and a better name, unfortunately they don’t.
Well dude I must say sucks for you should have thought bout that.It is a damned game not real life folks, lol, you may want to costomize your char but all your doing is trying to complicate the game even more with mistakes your unhappy with about your characters. If they do implament this it should be realistic prices plastic surgery is outrageous in r/l so its only right the prices should be realistic and I can most likely gaurentee they didn't use wands to change what they didn't like about them selves.
Operative 14
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Originally posted by White knight lord Well dude I must say sucks for you should have thought bout that.It is a damned game not real life folks, lol, you may want to costomize your char but all your doing is trying to complicate the game even more with mistakes your unhappy with about your characters. I don't know what you're reading, but it seems like a vast majority of the people posting in this topic, and others, have not made mistakes that they are unhappy about with their characters. Almost all of them are people who put a lot of thought into their characters when they first created them, and yet they want to be able to customize their apperance after more than a year of gameplay. After hundreds of platinum invested in armor, weapons, and various other accoutrement's. After hundreds of hours invested over the life time of the character. And not to mention the sentimental value that people place upon their characters; something which you seem to lack, which is perfectly fine of course.
Quite frankly, I do not understand what your issue is with this; throughout this topic you have militantly been against the idea of letting other people have the ability to choose their hairstyles. And yet you have not been able to come up with a single reason to not do it other than that you think it would be a waste of time. And yes, I think if you asked everyone here, they would understand that this is a game and not real life. However, I think it is prudent to point out that this is infact a Role Playing Game, therefore people should be able to have the ability to customize the apperance of their characters to the utmost limit.
Not everyone is willing to throw away their time and effort that they have spent on their characters like you for something as simple as a hair cut, nor should you try to force them to do so.
Here's a question for you; How often do you change your desktop wallpaper? Have you changed it in the last year? Two years? If you changed it in the last two years, "I must say sucks for you should have thought bout that."
ducktape
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Originally Posted by The Sender
I haven't read the entire thread so someone may have already said this, but they said there's going to be more ways to customize your character. So that could be it.
Niiiice. It does sound like one of those hush-hush fun surprises they like to spring on the players when we least expect it. Remember when they suddenly added the dye preview window when NF came out? Maybe they will reveal a new hairstylist feature with GW:EN! If the new hairstyles we're seeing are not for heroes or story NPCs then it's quite likely there will be ways to get new hair with GW:EN.
After all, nobody from ANet has ever said "no we won't do that" or "we can't do that" or "it is not likely we will ever do that" about hairstylists, they usually say "not sure" or "maybe" or "we like the idea". In fact, the only negative thing I've ever seen them say in response to any hairstylist talk was from Gaile, saying: "I assure you, it is NOT an easy thing to do".
After all, nobody from ANet has ever said "no we won't do that" or "we can't do that" or "it is not likely we will ever do that" about hairstylists, they usually say "not sure" or "maybe" or "we like the idea". In fact, the only negative thing I've ever seen them say in response to any hairstylist talk was from Gaile, saying: "I assure you, it is NOT an easy thing to do".
T1Cybernetic
I totaly agree with Operative 14, This is one of the main reasons why people would like these things added into the game.
I for one, like many others have spent a very long time playing the game and getting various titles /armour and equipment etc and wouldnt even consider starting over again just to change something simple like the hair /face or size...
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
I for one, like many others have spent a very long time playing the game and getting various titles /armour and equipment etc and wouldnt even consider starting over again just to change something simple like the hair /face or size...
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Not everyone is willing to throw away their time and effort that they have spent on their characters like you for something as simple as a hair cut, nor should you try to force them to do so.
Lady Lozza
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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow
.Furthermore I'm thankful that very few (if any) share your views and are selfish to that extent.
I don't want to spend hours recreating my character simply because her look has become flavour of the month. I'm not saying that it WILL happen, simply that it is a possibility - and something which I'd rather never eventuate.
I am happy with the look of my characters and would like to leave them that way. However having a million clones wanderering around would get on my nerves.
Having the looks of my guildmates' characters change on a whim would also bother me. True it is a game, and RL has very little to do with it. But you would be surprised at how much we rely on appearance in determining our social setting, and no matter how hard you try, that carries across into games. I am used to seeing certain characters with certain looks - and so are you. Throwing this out the window would not only take a lot of getting used to, but also become a detraction for a lot of players. GW might be a game, but it is also a social medium (many -non electronic- games are). In breaking what might be considered the general ground rules of social interaction players will become confused and detached. RPGs require a certain amount of immersion. I know that a lot of the older players (ie those who started playing around release) have a certain attachment to the game because we were able to "immerse" ourselves in the world. Any changes that have the possibilty of creating confusion for the players in any ingame social context is, IMHO a bad thing.
I do feel for those people who in the rush to create a character, created something which they now wish to change. It would be nice if they could.
It would be nice if my characters could get a dye job - I never had the option of giving any of them pink hair, something I'd really like to see on at least one character. I'd love to be able to change their hair styles on the odd occassion. Afterall, it isn't all that realistic to think that a prissy female mesmer has travelled from one end of the world to the other and kept the same hair style - particularly given the various styles of clothes she has worn.
Many fansites are filled with threads just like this one. We say I want, wish, desire such a feature, and occassionally some of us give reasons as to why. But they are equally full of the I don't want such-and-such threads.
No matter how you try to spin it, all our desires come down to one thing - our selfishness. We want to be able to do what we want, when we want. We want to be able to play the game how we want. Some - like the skill templates - can be considered more reasonable than others, for example the desire to be able to gain PvP rank without ever doing PvP.
In the case of character changes, we want to look pretty and we want to be unique - and there is nothing wrong with this. In the grand scheme of things is it such a small thing. It isn't going to add functionality to game, it isn't going to make it easier to play.
I'd love to see a hair stylist.
It would be nice to have the ability to change the whole look of a character ONCE - to make up for mistakes made in character creation.
I don't want to see the ability to change appearance the way we change armour.
Neriandal Freit
Well said in all directions Lady Lozza.
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
I don't know what you're reading, but it seems like a vast majority of the people posting in this topic, and others, have not made mistakes that they are unhappy about with their characters. Almost all of them are people who put a lot of thought into their characters when they first created them, and yet they want to be able to customize their apperance after more than a year of gameplay. After hundreds of platinum invested in armor, weapons, and various other accoutrement's. After hundreds of hours invested over the life time of the character. And not to mention the sentimental value that people place upon their characters; something which you seem to lack, which is perfectly fine of course.
Quite frankly, I do not understand what your issue is with this; throughout this topic you have militantly been against the idea of letting other people have the ability to choose their hairstyles. And yet you have not been able to come up with a single reason to not do it other than that you think it would be a waste of time. And yes, I think if you asked everyone here, they would understand that this is a game and not real life. However, I think it is prudent to point out that this is infact a Role Playing Game, therefore people should be able to have the ability to customize the apperance of their characters to the utmost limit.
Not everyone is willing to throw away their time and effort that they have spent on their characters like you for something as simple as a hair cut, nor should you try to force them to do so.
Here's a question for you; How often do you change your desktop wallpaper? Have you changed it in the last year? Two years? If you changed it in the last two years, "I must say sucks for you should have thought bout that." Sure people have been wanting to costomize their characters. They have that option when they make their char and after that they can get armor and weapons to costomize them even more. I have made all my chars and I chose features that I was happy with and still am.I personally think that folks should either have to remake their characters or deal with it simple as that. if their unhappy with it well...GET OVER IT, its fairly simple. The player shouldn't have invested the time and money if they wanted to change it later on,But idf folks like change then they can go play PvP and change your char as much as you want. I am not forceing anyone to delete their chars just telling them to get over their own mistakes. It really isn't any of your business how many times I change my desktop but I will tell you I change it fairly often.
Quite frankly, I do not understand what your issue is with this; throughout this topic you have militantly been against the idea of letting other people have the ability to choose their hairstyles. And yet you have not been able to come up with a single reason to not do it other than that you think it would be a waste of time. And yes, I think if you asked everyone here, they would understand that this is a game and not real life. However, I think it is prudent to point out that this is infact a Role Playing Game, therefore people should be able to have the ability to customize the apperance of their characters to the utmost limit.
Not everyone is willing to throw away their time and effort that they have spent on their characters like you for something as simple as a hair cut, nor should you try to force them to do so.
Here's a question for you; How often do you change your desktop wallpaper? Have you changed it in the last year? Two years? If you changed it in the last two years, "I must say sucks for you should have thought bout that." Sure people have been wanting to costomize their characters. They have that option when they make their char and after that they can get armor and weapons to costomize them even more. I have made all my chars and I chose features that I was happy with and still am.I personally think that folks should either have to remake their characters or deal with it simple as that. if their unhappy with it well...GET OVER IT, its fairly simple. The player shouldn't have invested the time and money if they wanted to change it later on,But idf folks like change then they can go play PvP and change your char as much as you want. I am not forceing anyone to delete their chars just telling them to get over their own mistakes. It really isn't any of your business how many times I change my desktop but I will tell you I change it fairly often.
nessarose
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
I don't think something as minor as the ability to change your hairstyle (particularly, if say you've just gone through the burning forest and your hair has caught fire - having a sassy new short style would be realistic from a role-play point of view as you wouldn't still have long flowing locks if they'd just been aflame) should warrant such hostility. Wouldn't it be interesting if your character's experiences had an influence on their looks? Say, every 100 deaths you can choose to add a new scar... it wouldn't make our characters prettier, not by any means, but they would have more character. Equally, a hair stylist just for fun (or because you are tired of the same hair style after looking at the back of it for 1,000 + hours) would be a nice thing. I'm not demanding this and I don't think anyone here is. Just further character customisation would be nice.
MithranArkanere
Yeah. Hair is not a problem, sometng change easily. Skin tone would be a bit harder, but can change in some degrees.
But height and face is not something that can be changed so easily. People lose height as they age, but a face is not something a to be changed in the same way mesmer change masks.
Hair? Easy. Bot shape and colour.
Skin tone...? maybe...
Face and Height? Once would be enough, so older character get a chance to use new faces added later.
Nothing more than that.
But height and face is not something that can be changed so easily. People lose height as they age, but a face is not something a to be changed in the same way mesmer change masks.
Hair? Easy. Bot shape and colour.
Skin tone...? maybe...
Face and Height? Once would be enough, so older character get a chance to use new faces added later.
Nothing more than that.
Operative 14
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Originally Posted by White knight lord
And no, you aren't forcing anyone to delete their characters simply to get a new hairstyle... but you're telling them to. And, also, how many here have said that they want to change the hairstyle becuase of a mistake they made? As I have said, most of the people I have seen campaigning for this are people who don't consider any aspect of their characters a mistake, otherwise they wouldn't have devoted 300+ hours to their creation, or several 100k worth of armor and weapons to their use. Most of them are sentimentaly attached to their characters otherwise that they wouldn't even consider deleting them for any reason, especially something as minor as a hairstyle. Everyone here has probably spent more than a few minutes looking at various combinations of face, hair, and other customizable options when they first created their characters as well. It's just that after one and a half years, their tastes have changed. And new options have been added since they were first able to 'customize' their characters appearance.
And you are absolutely right; it is none of my business how often you change your desktop wallpaper. However, what you are saying is tanatmount to saying that if someone wants to change their desktop wallpaper, they should have to buy a new computer to do so. This is a figure I'm pulling out of the air, but I think that for most of the people that want this feature the characters that they want this for they have spent 250 hours on over a period of one or more years. If you were doing even the most menial work at $2 an hour mowing lawns for your neighbor, that would be enough to purchase a new computer from Dell or HP or any number of other comparable companies. It's not neccessary to change your wallpaper, and your compter will not suffer becuase you can't change it past your intial start up procedure when you choose it. So, tell me, if you had a computer that you've invested hundreds of dollars in over the past 2 years, you've bought upgrades through working for them and earning the money to do so, customizing it through programs that you've bought, and you didn't have the option of changing the desktop, would you want to just throw it away and do it all over again simply to change the desktop? And, given the choice, wouldn't you want to ask for the option of having the ability to change your desktop wallpaper?
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
Quote: Originally Posted by Operative 14 And no, you aren't forcing anyone to delete their characters simply to get a new hairstyle... but you're telling them to. And, also, how many here have said that they want to change the hairstyle becuase of a mistake they made? As I have said, most of the people I have seen campaigning for this are people who don't consider any aspect of their characters a mistake, otherwise they wouldn't have devoted 300+ hours to their creation, or several 100k worth of armor and weapons to their use. Most of them are sentimentaly attached to their characters otherwise that they wouldn't even consider deleting them for any reason, especially something as minor as a hairstyle. Everyone here has probably spent more than a few minutes looking at various combinations of face, hair, and other customizable options when they first created their characters as well. It's just that after one and a half years, their tastes have changed. And new options have been added since they were first able to 'customize' their characters appearance. Simple..Get over the choice (mistake) in which they made and make a new character. If they spent so much time on the character why change the character? It basically takes away from the uniqueness of their choices in the costomization stage. For the folks that have s setamantal "attachment" why change the character? If you have such an attachment it bascially says you like the selections you made or you wouldn't have put so much into the character.
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Originally Posted by Operative 14
And you are absolutely right; it is none of my business how often you change your desktop wallpaper. However, what you are saying is tanatmount to saying that if someone wants to change their desktop wallpaper, they should have to buy a new computer to do so. This is a figure I'm pulling out of the air, but I think that for most of the people that want this feature the characters that they want this for they have spent 250 hours on over a period of one or more years. If you were doing even the most menial work at $2 an hour mowing lawns for your neighbor, that would be enough to purchase a new computer from Dell or HP or any number of other comparable companies. It's not neccessary to change your wallpaper, and your compter will not suffer becuase you can't change it past your intial start up procedure when you choose it. So, tell me, if you had a computer that you've invested hundreds of dollars in over the past 2 years, you've bought upgrades through working for them and earning the money to do so, customizing it through programs that you've bought, and you didn't have the option of changing the desktop, would you want to just throw it away and do it all over again simply to change the desktop? And, given the choice, wouldn't you want to ask for the option of having the ability to change your desktop wallpaper?
with all do respect...your "examples" are not up to par....because that would be relatively dumb, and that is REAL LIFE. I don't know who would mow a lawn for 2$ either...and....as spending money on such items, I wait for Chistmas or my B-day to get items like...well my computer. To answer your question I wouldn't pay hundreds or thousands of dollars just to change my wallpaper on my comp... and there is a BIG difference between a pixel image and Money..So I am going to leave this topic letting you all DREAM about your "Hair Stylists","Plastic Surgens", and w/e NPC you all want to fix your mistakes on your characters
Neriandal Freit
So White Knight, you've never gotten a hair cut in your life?
pigdestroyer
he probably never leaves his basement, some of you take this game way too seriously
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
So White Knight, you've never gotten a hair cut in your life?
Yeah in Real Life
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
he probably never leaves his basement, some of you take this game way too seriously
Sadly I don't have a basement
vergerefosh
Equivalent to what people are asking for on this. In many cases they're making the request, but also not asking for it to be something that people can change every day if they wish, they're asking for a price tag that is high enough to prevent this, but low enough not to prevent all people from being able to take advantage of this.
Also White Knight, tastes change, you may get a hair cut you like when you get it, but after a while it begins to wear on you, or you'd like to try a different style or cut. That's all people are asking for on this. The "plastic surgery" options are just extras, and less useful, and personally I'm less in favour of those But Lady Lozza makes some good points |
