How to drive away hard core collectors in pve

Yippi another useless "Haves" Vs "Have Nots" thread. Where certain people are free to demonstrate their holier-than-thou attitudes by bad mouthing anyone who actually collects rare items.

All I will say is;
I'd like to know what study you have based your, clearly fictitious, numbers on.

[QUOTE=Loviatar]I dont actually know why I typed that. Most probs due to the lack of sleep I have had over the last 3 days.

Lovitar knows everything, didn't you know..?

Let's see some proof of these numbers..

Its gonna get changed to inscriptions.

Anet favors the casual player.

You need to deal with it as an inevitability.

Frankly....

I wish Anet would add NON-INSCRIBABLE versions of everything (under stipulation that Non-inscribable weapons fall with ONLY perfect mods) as well as inscribable versions.

The collectibility would actually get better (more items to collect and rarity increases) but at the same time, theres always cheaper alternatives.

This. I see no reason to not give out inscriptions so you can feel better than everyone else. It shouldn't be about having a bunch of crap that other people can't get (away from me peasants!), it should be about having a pretty PvE dress-up barbie with what you want. Yes, it's nice that some things take more effort than others, but nearly every tyrian/canthan drop is useless with the current system.

Hmmm if Tyrian/Canthan weapons are going to get incriptions... Then we'll have another problem:

Req 8 weapons with inscriptions.

As far as I know, req 8 on a weapon with inscriptions is about as rare as a req 7 max dmg weapon in Tyria/Cantha - They drop as good as never.

If they choose to make all mods become inscriptions, some weapons will be req 8, and therefore very valueable. Unless Tyria and Cantha keeps dropping req 8 weapons, which I doupt, cause then Elona would have a disadvantage.

And somehow I don't think alot of people like A-Net messing with their valueable items. Look how people were against the altering of their HoD Swords, that Green item with 10/10 which became 20/20 (forgot what it was), Crimson Carpace Shield, etc.

Except this time it doesn't hit a few people, it hits as good as all people. The question is if A-Net can take even more complaining ^^;

1. 14>50 is not useless and is alot cheaper than 15>50

2. If people want to play "dress up Barbie" then the weapon being for example 14>50 and not 15>50 does not matter. Heck if you are purely concerned about image and not stats the item skin would be ideal regardless of stats.

3. If you are poor / lazy / stupid / casual player etc. then you can get virtually every skinned item for very little gold with a high req or 1% off perfect inherent damage modifier. (I mention req as people are whining about prices).

clearly a guess but lets ask you and herb for your guess as well and maybe we can average all 3 guesses.

what fraction of a per cent of the player base do either of you consider to be able to purchase items on the million+ gold level?

my guess is not more than a few thousand out of the player base can spend on that scale

that is spend not a single budget busting i got it but it tapped me out one shot.

back to you with please forgive me on this no malice intended

It's Cantha that needs the inscription system the most (since most of the famous Tyrian weapons drop can be had from Elona already), to be honest...

[QUOTE]i also use a vamp 4 bowstring that dropped.

a little less than perfect fits my budget and my play fine

i have a literaly joke stat chrys sword i give my elemonk now and then to run around with for how funny it looks

More then a few thousand. It isn't hard to make a million.

This would be the way to go. When you have two very different groups with two very different agendas (cheap, good stuff vs. expensive, rare stuff), it's best to appeal to both. I say make every skin there is have both inscribable and un-inscribable versions that can drop anywhere (yes, even non-inscribable Elonian items).

It is possible to have your cake and eat it, too. The collectors can have their rare equipment, while everyone else gets their functional items with nice skins.

Although ya know lower than r9 inscribables are pretty rare. What's wrong with them vs. Tyrian/Canthan non-inscribables? Too rare? Not rare enough?

Agreed ArcMac, you cannot please everyone all the time.

The best we can do is make a compromise.

If you add noninscribable versions of everything it means you have a chance to get unusable crap when playing normally...

20% while hexed hammers anyone?

I laugh at this idea seeing there is such a divide on the issue. It's going to happen, just like the armor inscriptions; it's just a matter of time. Why do I think it will happen? Well some people E-Bay GW weapons and objects of desire for a rather hefty price and of course A-net certainly does not like that idea. Furthermore if it does happen what will be the general communities’ reaction? Anger and divide amongst each other, but give it a few weeks and everyone will be back they way they were.

What's your point? We already have a chance of getting unusable crap. Just make the chance to get a non-inscribable gold really rare, and up the chances to get inscribable golds. You won't notice any difference, problem solved.

Inscribable r8 items are nowhere even close to the rarity of perfect r7 non-inscribables. Add that to the fact that r8 inscribables are ALLWAYS perfect and any comparison between the 2 is absurd.


That I can easily agree to. Gives everyone what they want. (assuming I am understanding your suggestion correctly)



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Yeah and?

Gold drops mean nothing now because of inscriptions. Granted, most people don't care, but some of us still do.

I'm so disappointed. I was expecting your post to say "Offer them free showers".

I personally, however, would love enforced inscriptions on all old weapons. Including the unconditionals--they need to be removed from the game anyway. :]

Another ignorant post..

Why do they need to be removed?? they don't effect you any way, shape or form.

Most unconditionals are on dead accounts anyway. I know of a few in active use, and the owners rarely play and none of them PvP a great deal (which is where the unconditional item really counts)

13% Longsword
13% Bow (Shortbow I think)
14% Great Axe
14% Hammer
15% Dwarvern <~Dead account

Herb has a list of them, and ones one himself I believe.