/signed
easiest fix is to make it like Orchard mission - you have to be the only one in the party
Pre Searing: Please stop it being possible to drag someone (unwillingly) out of pre!
kousei
dread pirate fargus
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher
Even though the initiater of this thread (Dread Pirate) himself in involved with a small group of people being responsible for sending post items back to pre (these items include Elite Tomes...people have flesh golems in pre now) and I myself was random partied by a lvl 1 W/Me standing next to sir tydus once, I'd rather have Anet use their resources to forever put an end to these glitches.
However, theres been one or a few people trying to deliberately send perma pre's to post. This person creates new characters with names that are very similar to the ones used by the more well known people of the pre community, gets mesmer secondary asap with the sole purpose of searing as many perma pre's as he possibly can. This person or persons seeks to do nothing but cause as much damage as he/she possibly can. Even though this is easilly avoided (check who you party with before actually accepting folks!) I'd rather have not to worry who my level 17 perma pre parties with in Ascalon City so I say: /Signed Anet, fix these glitches in pre plz..all of them |
and beleive me when i say that if i myself found a glitch, i would be the first person to report it to arena net. and yes i know you saw i screenshot of me saying i knew a glitch, but pm me and you may be pleasantly suprised as to why i said that
im not all as evil as you would love to think my friendback on topic, i wanted to thank everyone again for the amazing response i have had from you guys. i have updated my response to arena net with the links to both this thread and the thread on presearing.com so hopefully we will get to see some action soon!
wetwillyhip
/signed
Thomas Woods
Thomas Woods
dread pirate fargus
guys just a quick reminder that the rules of guru state you cannot simply type /signed or /unsigned. if you wish to add your opinion you must be involved in the conversation in some small way.
Echuu Ishtar
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher
Even though the initiater of this thread (Dread Pirate) himself in involved with a small group of people being responsible for sending post items back to pre (these items include Elite Tomes...people have flesh golems in pre now) and I myself was random partied by a lvl 1 W/Me standing next to sir tydus once, I'd rather have Anet use their resources to forever put an end to these glitches.
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dread pirate fargus
1) thats extremely off topic (but there are topics on presearing.com devoted to those types of questions)
2) i still havent seen any actual that such items exist, but the theory some people came up with is that a couple of clever (or lucky) guys left characters parked in the guild hall ever since the first glitch, hoping to find some nice items to take back (or being inactive) it would hardly suprise me to see these items in pre however and i have spoke to people who 'claim' to have / have seen them.
3) the other possibility is that there is a glitch i am unaware of. pls tell me if there is and il be the first to notify support
please, if you have any other questions such as these head over to presearing.com and use the Search feature. keep it on topic as this is a serious attempt to get something done about the real problem
2) i still havent seen any actual that such items exist, but the theory some people came up with is that a couple of clever (or lucky) guys left characters parked in the guild hall ever since the first glitch, hoping to find some nice items to take back (or being inactive) it would hardly suprise me to see these items in pre however and i have spoke to people who 'claim' to have / have seen them.
3) the other possibility is that there is a glitch i am unaware of. pls tell me if there is and il be the first to notify support
please, if you have any other questions such as these head over to presearing.com and use the Search feature. keep it on topic as this is a serious attempt to get something done about the real problem
TheRaven
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Originally Posted by Echuu Ishtar
How the hell are people sending tomes to pre when the guild hall travel exploit was fixed long before tomes were even released. What new bug is this?
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Yes! It's now possible to achieve both survivor and LDoA.
Ok, ok. Off-topic for this thread I know. (Sorry bout that
)Fargus, please let us know if you hear of Arenanet taking any action against the perma-pre kidnappers. I truly hope they close this hole soon.
Crushedskulls11
/signed
Anet needs to fix this ASAP, its basicaly an attack on pre - sear chars. I myself am working on ldoa, don't have a secondary so I'm fine. But those that do and are perma - pre, that is not cool
Anet needs to fix this ASAP, its basicaly an attack on pre - sear chars. I myself am working on ldoa, don't have a secondary so I'm fine. But those that do and are perma - pre, that is not cool
Pure Disasta
Wow are you actually shitting me i just got pulled out of pre on my lvl 17.5 1yr old necro with +200k in stuff. Yeah arena net wouldnt help they pretty much just flat out said no we cant help you get back to pre its stupid iam re doing him again same name "pure disasta" this time as a nec though.
salamanca
/signed.
This little "game" is in actuality a pretty serious attempt on the perpetrator to "assassinate" some prominant characters. It's a close to a homocide as this game can get online. If you have seen the presearing threads on this, you see the individual is glaoting over what is happening and the attention it's bringing. give it a few weeks and you will see copycats repeating the exercise. Once it spreads, the entire presearing will become a solo game. nobody will be north of the wall unless they have a trusted guild member to take them or a second account and dual instances running.
This little "game" is in actuality a pretty serious attempt on the perpetrator to "assassinate" some prominant characters. It's a close to a homocide as this game can get online. If you have seen the presearing threads on this, you see the individual is glaoting over what is happening and the attention it's bringing. give it a few weeks and you will see copycats repeating the exercise. Once it spreads, the entire presearing will become a solo game. nobody will be north of the wall unless they have a trusted guild member to take them or a second account and dual instances running.
salamanca
/signed.
This little "game" is in actuality a pretty serious attempt on the perpetrator to "assassinate" some prominant characters. It's a close to a homocide as this game can get online. If you have seen the presearing threads on this, you see the individual is glaoting over what is happening and the attention it's bringing. give it a few weeks and you will see copycats repeating the exercise. Once it spreads, the entire presearing will become a solo game. nobody will be north of the wall unless they have a trusted guild member to take them or a second account and dual instances running.
As for the timer issue. it exists but our stalker is often waiting for the timer to run down and then inviting to limit response time to less than 10 seconds.
This little "game" is in actuality a pretty serious attempt on the perpetrator to "assassinate" some prominant characters. It's a close to a homocide as this game can get online. If you have seen the presearing threads on this, you see the individual is glaoting over what is happening and the attention it's bringing. give it a few weeks and you will see copycats repeating the exercise. Once it spreads, the entire presearing will become a solo game. nobody will be north of the wall unless they have a trusted guild member to take them or a second account and dual instances running.
As for the timer issue. it exists but our stalker is often waiting for the timer to run down and then inviting to limit response time to less than 10 seconds.
Syntropic The Red
/signed
I think there should be a question for the person not accepting the Sir Tydus quest to accept it as well as the person accepting it, seems like the best way to prevent. I have seen people who sit by Sir Tydus and spam they are gate openers to get the perma pres and people going for Legendary Defender of Ascalon, thats why I always make sure the person who I accept as a gate opener is close to the gate.
I think there should be a question for the person not accepting the Sir Tydus quest to accept it as well as the person accepting it, seems like the best way to prevent. I have seen people who sit by Sir Tydus and spam they are gate openers to get the perma pres and people going for Legendary Defender of Ascalon, thats why I always make sure the person who I accept as a gate opener is close to the gate.
Shaq_gw
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Edit: Got my question answered. It would be nice if when you closed GW before the vs battle ended that it would send you back to pre-Ascalon.
There is a counter, but it is dependant on how many others are crossing over. If there is no opposing people it goes very quick. |
Some ppl leave the battle because they intend to go for surviver title and cannot afford to be killed there
Yol
There is an alternative......Ashford Abbey isn't that much further from the gate than Ascalon City is, but has the advantage that Sir Tydus isn't there. If you party with someone in Ashford and find yourself being jumped to Ascalon, you have some time to disconnect or leave the party before the little **** makes it to Tydus and starts the quest.
=HT=Ingram
there is a mod script that allows presearing characters to go to the guild hall. BUT it is not allowed and if found out you will get your account banned... So don't bother....
Basically the mod copies the script function of the goto guild hall button on G and places it as a overlay button on your screen... then you press it in game with G open and ZIP off you go... Hit return as normal and ZIP back to presearing you arrive. Its a problem... the guys selling bags in presearing now that are 10 item bags (IE since charr bags can not be sold) and tomes are obviously using it...
PS it reminds me of the Cantha overlay buttons they had at E3 some years ago... that took you to different maps directly... I'm wondering if its source is a former Anet employee or alpha tester? IDK. I saw a SS of it one time and was like WTH? Now I see why it was made. Go figure... It will be detected sooner or later... And they will be banned for it...
Basically the mod copies the script function of the goto guild hall button on G and places it as a overlay button on your screen... then you press it in game with G open and ZIP off you go... Hit return as normal and ZIP back to presearing you arrive. Its a problem... the guys selling bags in presearing now that are 10 item bags (IE since charr bags can not be sold) and tomes are obviously using it...
PS it reminds me of the Cantha overlay buttons they had at E3 some years ago... that took you to different maps directly... I'm wondering if its source is a former Anet employee or alpha tester? IDK. I saw a SS of it one time and was like WTH? Now I see why it was made. Go figure... It will be detected sooner or later... And they will be banned for it...
Shaq_gw
I just finished some testing and i was totally surpised of the results.
This must be SOOO clear that this is not working as intended.
Action: Not accepting secondary profession = Safe
Action: Not taking or abandoning follow-up quest (path to glory) from saberlin after completing secondary profession = NOT safe
Action: Not completing Saberlin's quest after accepting secondary prfession = NOT Safe
Conclusion after accepting a secondary profession you are vulnerable to this griefing no matter what you do or don't
This must be SOOO clear that this is not working as intended.
Action: Not accepting secondary profession = Safe
Action: Not taking or abandoning follow-up quest (path to glory) from saberlin after completing secondary profession = NOT safe
Action: Not completing Saberlin's quest after accepting secondary prfession = NOT Safe
Conclusion after accepting a secondary profession you are vulnerable to this griefing no matter what you do or don't
The Lurch
Theres more then just griefing that needs to be fixed in pre...i'll give a good example of what else is going on...
a couple of days ago, early in the morning, about maybe 2:30am Central time(i have insomnia so im usually on about then) i saw an A/R lvl 13 in pre Foible's Fair (or whatever that place is called, i can never spell it right)
Yes, a level 13 Assassin/Ranger. I clicked on them and happened to notice this, but before I could fully read their name they ran out the portal.
So not only do we have problems with griefers in pre, i think we got some other hacks/bugs that are taking non prophecies characters over FROM post to PRE. Anyone see an issue with that?
a couple of days ago, early in the morning, about maybe 2:30am Central time(i have insomnia so im usually on about then) i saw an A/R lvl 13 in pre Foible's Fair (or whatever that place is called, i can never spell it right)
Yes, a level 13 Assassin/Ranger. I clicked on them and happened to notice this, but before I could fully read their name they ran out the portal.
So not only do we have problems with griefers in pre, i think we got some other hacks/bugs that are taking non prophecies characters over FROM post to PRE. Anyone see an issue with that?
MithranArkanere
Sure it was a A/R?
Coudn't it be a N/R?
Coudn't it be a N/R?
Gruff
/Signed This is a deliberate and vindictive action I would liek to see address in the proper manner by GW authorities. The sooner we get soem GM's in game to sort out some of the rubish that goes on the better. The support sytem for reporting could do with being more user friendly also.
onerabbit
just log out?
Kool Pajamas
/signed
Make it require you to have a certain quest active in order to cross over.
Make it require you to have a certain quest active in order to cross over.
The Lurch
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Sure it was a A/R?
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"Methuza..." i dont know what the rest of it is
It was A/R...is shoulda taken a screenie damn it, but i didnt think about it...
Gaile Gray
I'm so upset about this.
I have included it in the Community Summary this week, and I know that the team will try to devise a means to make this not happen in the future!
I have included it in the Community Summary this week, and I know that the team will try to devise a means to make this not happen in the future!
dread pirate fargus
with regards to the A/R in pre thing.
not only do i not beleive it would ever be possible....
its completely irrelevant to this topic. if you want anet to do something about the serious topic at hand please do not clutter up this thread with irrelevant info.
sorry to sound harsh / nasty but the faster i see this cleaned up the better imho.
ANET ITS TIME TO DO SOMETHING. now had over a 100 signatures in just a couple of days (including the ones over at presearing.com) including several people who have been affected personally by the bug.
not only do i not beleive it would ever be possible....
its completely irrelevant to this topic. if you want anet to do something about the serious topic at hand please do not clutter up this thread with irrelevant info.
sorry to sound harsh / nasty but the faster i see this cleaned up the better imho.
ANET ITS TIME TO DO SOMETHING. now had over a 100 signatures in just a couple of days (including the ones over at presearing.com) including several people who have been affected personally by the bug.
dread pirate fargus
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I'm so upset about this.
I have included it in the Community Summary this week, and I know that the team will try to devise a means to make this not happen in the future! |
wow im really glad you guys are actually taking this seriously, i feel very reassured now i was beggining to feel no1 out there cared about us guys
thanks and keep up the good work!
p.s. maybe we can see you over at presearing.com
*edit sorry for the doublepost kinda forgot i had allready replied*
nursing assistant
Awesome!!! Hi, Gaile... I always wanted to meet you.
Hyper.nl
Too bad that it's neccessary. But if it gets abused it needs a fix. It can be devastating for a LDoA title farmer who already invested a huge amount of time in death leveling.
Darkhell153
for all those who have signed this thread there is a single problem with all of this....is anyone at arenanet going to bother with something like this with just a fansite sign
(/signed btw)
or do I get to organize a live protest at the arenanet corps with full scale mobs (my personal favorite choice)
(/signed btw)
or do I get to organize a live protest at the arenanet corps with full scale mobs
(my personal favorite choice)
Neo Nugget
Yes i think they will, they havent ignored pre. They added LDoA title, charr bags and charr salvages......(hopes for tomes that the charr bosses drop now lol)
dread pirate fargus
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for all those who have signed this thread there is a single problem with all of this....is anyone at arenanet going to bother with something like this with just a fansite sign
(/signed btw) or do I get to organize a live protest at the arenanet corps with full scale mobs (my personal favorite choice) |
) has commented that something will be done about it. therefore the petition is working. thanks guys
Titan Silencer
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It was A/R...i couldnt fully read their name but the part i got was
"Methuza..." i dont know what the rest of it is It was A/R...is shoulda taken a screenie damn it, but i didnt think about it... |
not really sure, but I think I have experienced the same thing with my lDoA in making
K0957
/signed
time to get paranoid
time to get paranoid
Darkhell153
So...I don't get to organize a protest group?
ElinoraNeSangre
Gaile, thanks for being on top of this one - it's a pretty distressing thing to a lot of people.
Here's a thought - what about when the timer pops up, it doesn't start counting down until both players in the party push a button? Sort of like skipping cut scenes, nothing happens until everyone pushes the button. That way everyone has to explicitly agree to go before anything happens.
Here's a thought - what about when the timer pops up, it doesn't start counting down until both players in the party push a button? Sort of like skipping cut scenes, nothing happens until everyone pushes the button. That way everyone has to explicitly agree to go before anything happens.
dread pirate fargus
hopefully we will see something done about this soon
my lvl 16 friend just got dragged to post yesterday, its so depressing cause i think he will probably stop playing pre for good now
my lvl 16 friend just got dragged to post yesterday, its so depressing cause i think he will probably stop playing pre for good now
dread pirate fargus
as much as i like to be an upstanding member of the community and do things for the good of pre..... my account just got permanently banned.
apparently for using an ingame exploit?
this is because of people trashtalking about me, saying that i used an exploit (which is a bunch of lies... i allways worked hard for my gold tyvm)
i think by exploit they refer to whoever the hell bought the tomes to pre. people like dreamcatcher trash talked and accused me of 'being part of a group of people who glitch and hack' or something. WTF i would never do that.
this post itself proves how much i care about pre. why would i want to ruin it with tomes?
GAILE HELP ME!
apparently for using an ingame exploit?
this is because of people trashtalking about me, saying that i used an exploit (which is a bunch of lies... i allways worked hard for my gold tyvm)
i think by exploit they refer to whoever the hell bought the tomes to pre. people like dreamcatcher trash talked and accused me of 'being part of a group of people who glitch and hack' or something. WTF i would never do that.
this post itself proves how much i care about pre. why would i want to ruin it with tomes?
GAILE HELP ME!
dragonofinfinity
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Gaile, thanks for being on top of this one - it's a pretty distressing thing to a lot of people.
Here's a thought - what about when the timer pops up, it doesn't start counting down until both players in the party push a button? Sort of like skipping cut scenes, nothing happens until everyone pushes the button. That way everyone has to explicitly agree to go before anything happens. |
i only just read about this today as a destraction while AFK death leveling my perma pre, and i realy cant how people get their jollies by pulling high levels into post (my brother felt the same too).
i understand the sort of hours it takes to get LDoA and (19 hours and im only at level 9)it is such a shame when people spend so many hours leveling only to fall victim to a moron.
/signed a thousand times and a thousand more. pulling needs to be stopped.
as my perma pre is coming up to the top of the max levels you can get through quests i am starting to get ALOT of random invites, but im still safe as i dont have a secondary.
higaru
/signed warning for both player with possibility to cancel, or even better a confirmation from the second player would be ideal, i have 3 high lvl char. in pre and don't want them to be accidently dragged out.
Gaile Gray
I just wanted to confirm that we are still looking at this issue, and we will devise some sort of resolution, I'm sure. Your suggestions have been very helpful, and thank you for bringing the whole thing to our attention.
dread pirate fargus
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I just wanted to confirm that we are still looking at this issue, and we will devise some sort of resolution, I'm sure. Your suggestions have been very helpful, and thank you for bringing the whole thing to our attention.
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oh and thankyou to the dev team too ^_^
hopefully by the time this bug / loophole is fixed i will be able to enjoy the game again, and my account will be unbanned