Mass-Banning

Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

"quite sure"???? "Obvious"???? Proof it or leave them alone!!! And send them your proof. Even in america "In dubio pro reo" is used.

Do you actually think that there aren´t people that just think: "Man, am I lucky to get such an offer, or what?" Especially when you have one of those very, very rare Minipets. And with the monuments in GWEN, the value of Minipets might actually rise.

Or: You come back to GW after a 6 months break, you see the offer and sell. Who knows what happened in 6 months.

Are you still "quite sure"???

Originally Posted by Patrick Smit

so u get 1750 armbraces just falling out of the sky?

"Ich habe es nicht gewuBt"

Come on be realistic, miracles don't happen.

To people who say that prove is needed in law suits. This is not the case, if you obtained huge amounts of money you have to prove its origin, and thereby show it is legal.

Originally Posted by Joseph Rejekt

With an Avatar like Gonzo, I wouldn't expect you to know what coherent is. I've re-read over what i've said and it makes sense to me. What i'm getting to in there is that there have been alot of noticeable factors that no one seems to be taking account of in regards to why the drop in ectos. Let me break it down a little bit easier for your uncomprehendable mind to follow.

1. Ectos spiked to 12k+ when people got their dervies and paragons through NF and wanted their FoW armor.
2. After weeks of that, obviously fewer and fewer people wanted FoW and prices drop to 9k. This trickled down over weeks.
3. After that, hard mode was introduced. This allowed for more frequent drops, ectos being one of them.
4. UW scrolls allowed for access to UW during moments we didn't have favor.
5. Long time players who accumulated a fair amount of ectos had literally quit the game, which was evident by a few that i knew as well as many posts i'd seen on guru of people unloading 200+ ectos and various greens/golds and declaring they were quitting the game. That in itself puts alot of ectos back into the market, creating even less of a merchant demand.
6. With the intro of Loot Scaling, ectos, because they are a rare material, were unaffected so to allow for continued solo farming for them.
7. The drop in ecto prices didn't suddenly spike down overnight. This happened over a period of months. If a dupe like what happened to armbraces was really the situation, then we'd see ecto prices hovering around that of jades, ambers, and steel. We wouldn't see them around the prices of rubies and diamonds.
8. One thing i'd just remembered as well is that during that time we'd gone through several small holiday events as well as a couple of festivals. It should be well documented that when special events occur, they directly impact the market and especially the ecto market.

So there is that coherent enough for you? Broken down into parts rather than in one big paragraph? Several factors over a period of time that allowed for the drop in ectos broken down in such a way that actually makes perfect sense that as I said, when you take 5-10 min to think about, it actually makes SENSE! A few might be in denial and make it appear that ectos suddenly spiked down almost as if overnight, but that wasn't the case. I still remember times that during the whole fear of ectos dropping where i'd see the slow 500 gold every 2 weeks trickle down effect happening with ectos. For about a month if i remember, ectos were hovering between 6.5k and 7.5k before creeping down to the 5.5k state they are now. That isn't a sign of duping. Duping is a sudden immediate impact whereas this took several months.

Originally Posted by Patrick Smit

so u get 1750 armbraces just falling out of the sky?

"Ich habe es nicht gewuBt"

Come on be realistic, miracles don't happen.

To people who say that prove is needed in law suits. This is not the case, if you obtained huge amounts of money you have to prove its origin, and thereby show it is legal.

Originally Posted by Oofus

LOL I still have absolutely no idea what your POINT is, and I doubt anyone else does either.
By the way, you shouldn't try to use big words, that don’t even exist, to insult people, it kinda makes you look even more foolish. LMAO @ "uncomprehendable”. If you're going to try and insult me because I can't follow your inain blatherings about god-knows-what, at least wait till the acid wears off before you start to type again.

And it's Super GROVER, not Gonzo. Sheesh

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Originally Posted by NoXiFy

I love Gail. She's on my side. Ban everyone that has more than 1 armbrace, and anyone that has more than 200ecto.

Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

I don't know. In most cases they probably knew what was going on, but I can't help but feel somewhere there are some kids that were given a gift not knowing the value of what they were given, and now are banned.

Originally Posted by maraxusofk

LOL thats right ban everybody richer than u right? while i find it hard to believe ppl haveing over 100 armbraces, it is understandable for ppl to have over 200 ectos. its relaly not hard actually.

Originally Posted by Tom Swift

4: I had no real idea myself how much an armbrace was worth in this game until this issue - many other players surely are in the same boat. Had I been offered one for 50k or even as a gift I would have known I was getting a good deal but I never would have realized how much of a good deal. If I had a rare mini and was offered a 1000 armbraces for it, I probably would not have realized the discrepancy. I collect certain things and know the price for them but anything else would simply leave me in the dark.

Originally Posted by Rayne Despair

No one in our guild had an armbrace.

Originally Posted by Westofeden

The whole banning situation of our guild wasn't about armbraces seeing as how no one in the guild had or has more than 1 armbrace at a time.

Originally Posted by Rayne Despair

No one in our guild had an armbrace. I never had an armbrace...i'm not even to the point of the game where i can do so. I just want things to be fair...and I know that for some people, things aren't fair. Not for one second will i stick up for those who have blatantly duped, but I WILL stick up for those who helped me through prophecies last month and for those who were still helping me do bonuses that i missed.

these people know who they are, and i hope their ban is not a permanent one.

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

I was just picking numbers. By the way, it was funning pwning the leader of out old old alliance [CCCP] in HA today. xD

Originally Posted by maraxusofk

Not to jump off track but yeah, most of our best regular players arent playing now. still, losing is pretty bad. gg.