A letter to Anet and everyone else: Guild Wars is dying in my eyes.

The implementation of SOIP (Strangulation Over IP) would be far more satisfying, however. I heard it's coming in IPv6.

For discussing the possible intent to sell your GW account, you have been kicked from the guild. Have a nice day.

I don't think he cares if he is kicked from your guild or not, there a lots of guilds to go around.

Oh, and he was talking about DIABLO2.

I love Guild Wars. Always have, ever since my friends dragged me kicking and screaming back into the world of Online gaming (I had a really bad experience with EverQuest... as in, I played it. I still get flashbacks... *shudder*). All this hoo-ha about duping and modding... it's just tomorrow's chip-wrappings. A month, 2 months from now... we won't care. We'll have other things to care about. Heck, in about 3 weeks we'll all have other things to care about! ("Hang in there, Gwen - Shiro's comin' for ya!")

Well, except for the OP. And that's too bad for him, y'know? This is *still* a great gaming experience. There's still great people out there and there's still a great game for us to play. Everyday, I play a little more, find something new, get the nerve up to risk buying a new minipet (only, usually, to cry about the price I paid for it), put another 0.1% on my Explorer Titles, meet new people... you think any of that is affected by people who can't tell a Monk from a Necro without colouring them in first? By who's got the most mini-pandas? By how many Armbraces it takes to change a lightbulb? For me, the answer has got to be 'No'.

I *like* ANet's vision of Guild Wars - why would I want to change it? I like their designs, their imagination - far better than mine No modding for me, thank you, and for those that do, I really hope your designs are of the quality of the work they're replacing!

So, OP - give it some thought. What other people do doesn't need to impact your enjoyment of the game. Maybe the price of your Tormented item fluctuates a bit, maybe a few more people have them, and if that truly upsets you then I'm sorry - but it's still the same item, and it should still mean as much to you.

Peace, all.

(Seriously, I'm racing you all to get Gwen in my party!)

Lets Re Roll the game to day one. Imagine the fun wed all have playing from scratch (personally I'd love this and think it would be great but the 99% of the guy/gals around here wouldnt ). Why not just remove all game modes and give us a 1on1 game , when you log in you get to play as either shiro or the lich and only 2 people can play at any time in the whole world.

Skill point redistribution costing "reroll" points?

No heroes?

No updated hench?

Having to do the desert "Secondary" quests to change your secondary (and go to the correct desert outpost to do so)?

No inscriptions/insignias?

lmao,nice one^^
it owuld have bee nmassive for the mto reroll 2 months

That's pretty much what I was going to say on it, too. The OP points on modding were uninformed and completely wrong.

OH NOES it's the end of the world! Quick, bring me a beer!

Guild Wars isn't dying.

Your INTEREST in Guild Wars is dying.

Mine's fine.

Another end of the world prediction. And I don't see the point in bitching about people modding their clients. First of all it's client sided and secondly no one is making you do it. I honestly don't care about modding my client and I know a lot of people who feel the same way. I think the option is nice for people that are into it but it's not something that has to be done. So your over guild wars, quit crying about it. An angel loses it's wings every time someone creates a thread about quiting on here.

Guild Wars PvP has died, I think we can all agree on that.

But for me it's tough for PvE to die, only your interest. There's so much to do, and they implemented the titles which is basically a never ending quest to obtain the max titles.

so wait...

some kids are sitting around playing GW essentially single-player all twinked out in 'leet skins' and such?
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... N E R D S !!!!

just to clarify, in case nobody else had:

you can't completely change the apparance of an item, only its texture. that means i can't turn my shortsword into a crystalline. the best i can do is to change the texture of the shortsword into that of the crystalline, which will look crappy.

it also means i can't turn my ranger's 1k armor into the 15k equivalent. remember, the so called modding only applies to texture modding. there's no way to change the 3D structures underneath the textures.

and lastly, modding the skill icons into "interrupt me!!!!" won't help, because while you might know that it's important, you don't know what it is exactly. most of us who pvp on a regular basis already have all the important skill icons burned into our retinas. modding won't help one bit. same goes with health bars.

Just go play another game for a while. Or go outside and chillax and read a book. Download and watch a new anime that you've never seen.

I've been playing Tales of Symphonia, myself. Trying to wait until this problem concerning all the duplicated items blows over the community.

On days when I've lost most interest in Guild Wars, I go out into the garden and read a book. I recommended something Shakespearean or equivilent.

When I'm just kinda bored and don't want to deal with Guild Wars for the time being, I watch the Tales of Symphonia Anime... or Bleach.

Like I said, maybe you should take a break from Guild Wars. But don't pass it off on the game being the problem. The world isn't perfect, ya know. Why would a game be any different.

Yeah that pretty much sums it up.

Though I will say... it may seem like it's dying but I believe it will be refreshed with GWEN. For awhile we've had chapters every 6 months.. (well only two but still..) and now we've waited almost a year... so I think it's stood up pretty well over that gap in time.

Plus in the end.. Guild Wars can die because... Guild Wars 2 baby!

If you don't like how people can get an advantage by using TexMod, download it yourself. It is free after all. It's like complaining that the guy with a Ferrari can go faster than you, when they're giving away Ferrari's.

Mods in Guild Wars are nothing like most other games. Anything you mod has no effect on what other people see, or how anything works.

First of all, no bold for you, you don't know how to use it.

They are a member of these forums, who, like many others, has noticed all the "I got banned!!111!!!" threads. They don't have to be anything special to say the facts.

Your attacks on this person are hardly a respectful way of going about things. You are entitled to your opinion, however, you also have to stay within forum rules. Unless I am mistaken, you have now broken at least 2 forums rules.
2. Blogs
3. No Flaming/Trolling

You chose to post this in a public forum. That means that you willfully told your story to people. Did you expect us all to just say "You are so brave" or "I wish I was as cool as you"? Never post on forums expecting only positive responses.

Did you even read the posts?

You cannot change the base frame of anything using TexMod. All you can change is the skin. If you tried putting the tormented skin on other shields, not only would you be the only player able to see it, it would look like crap.

If anything, you're the one who sounds ignorant. You're accusing people of lying when they state rather well known information. Maybe you should actually do some research before you post again.

I have been away from the game for a month and will start playing again once GWEN comes out so I was thinking...

Ibex, if you aren't going to play anymore.....can I have you stuff? I know that Stormlord Alex asked first but if you can find it in your heart, please?
It would be nice to start GWEN off with some stuff I could just merch, just enough to pay for a Norn hooker (My warrior would probably like one of those big Viking girls) Just kidding

Oh, by the way, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out

Item and armor based "status" is over-rated... you could be using collector equipment and be a lot better than some dude with full obsidian armor and tormented weapons.. trust me I have pwned far too many players with "uber rare" items in ab/ra/ta/ha before. Of course items would be more representative of your skill if there was no such thing as gold webistes and bots.. which is not the case.

Anyway, dude modders are not hurting the game just themselves and dupers are scammers that are affecting the game somewhat but I really don't think they are ruining it for you.

g'night

I like the new mods, it makes it a lot easier. Just look @ WoW. They have mods that tell you how much money you make in a week/month based on buying/selling. Mods that tell you when you crit, mods that tell you where ore is to mine (so you don't have to memorized), and mods that tell you the average selling of an item on the Auction House.

It just makes things easier, and that's why mods make games more successful.

Not to mention, there are a few mods out there that you *need* for certain areas of the game.

lol, there is no mod needed for any area. they help thats all. If you need a mod then you really really have problems.

They didn't close this 1 like the other 10 gazillion GW is dead topics yet?
It would have been a good topic when the OP would have discussed the functionality/viability of modded graphics in PvP/PvE, otherwise its just a dead horse like so many others. Saying goodbye to people he doesnt know and who don't care about him leaving.

Unless the DPS wants to be very, very careful and slow, you're going to have a hard time in Kara without KTM. If your threat goes over the tank even once and you haven't done it numerous times, your whole parties gonna die.

GW DYING? i friend saw me playing it last month, he bought it same day and....... 11 others got it 2, and this was for the past 20 days only!

Well done, you said it before anyone else could tell you to. Even if you spelt "play" wrong.

I don't understand why people feel the need to announce to the world that GW is dying...it's only dying for you if you're bored of it. I'm sure as hell not bored of GW yet, so the game is still very much alive for me, and probably still would be if the population vastly declined since we all know heroes are better.

KTM? I do not know a single mod (nor inscription or insignia) called like that. Kara? I guess its a place somewhere
PDS in that context I also do not understand, care to explain this? Using too much Jargon is never helping anyone.

Correction: First it was the modders, then it was the dupers. People were modding this game long before the reconnect feature was even added let alone used for duping. Not many people, because hardly anyone knew of texmod.

Funny, I thought I was playing this game to like... fight enemies, follow a story, fight other people in arenas, explore lands. I think you want this game, honestly.

Why does someone else seeing something they want, while not altering your gameplay, affect you at all?

He's not talking about GW, he's talking about WoW.

Guild Wars is dying? Where is the proof of that...?

I won't say that modding is making the game die for me...I would say a mix of hm/bots/dupers and the fact that everything is so incredibly easy to get now that it isn't worth it.
Of course, this is a pve stand point...but, I know hundreds of people who have quit in the recent months, and I see guildwars very much of dying soon enough. I'm hoping GW:EN and guildwars 2 will switch things up a bit and make it more enjoyable again.

Nothing to add to this thread, but I lol'd so hard. I love Guru.

I can't live without a daily dose of death-threads :]

Heres an idea.Suck it up and realise that you got most likely over 10 times more playing value out of Guild Wars than any other average game.

Stop whinging, harden up, put up with how things are or find something else to do. No one forces the modders to mod, and no one is forcing you yourself to play.

This thread proves one thing to me....how wrong the OP is....there's been what 2 maybe 3 people who are defending him....and not even completely.

The game is far from dying.

/hopes the door not only hits his ass on the way out but hits it so hard he gets knocked into a busy street filled with fast moving cars.

Good riddance.

I'm one of those weird people that take the journey for the journey's sake, not always with a goal in mind, but that's beside the point right now. The reason you do something even when you can get it instantly is this: it just feels better.
In real world terms its like the difference between instant mashed potatoes and a dish of potatoes you made by hand. Because you invested time and effort into getting it right, it tastes better.
In game terms imagine someone duped an item from a buddy, so they now have a tormented item. You put a lot of effort into getting yours, either from working to earn gold or by getting the jewels yourself.So:
A)Earn the gold yourself
B)Get the jewels personally
C)Dupe the item

Earning the gold will take a while, but at the very least you'll get good at one area. Or you could be a trader, or perform some other service for money.
Option B is to get the jewels yourself, which will take a bit more skill than a lot of players have(haven't been to DoA so wouldn't know how easy/hard it is now). Or you can dupe the item.

When the fascination of having your new skin is over, the weapon will gather pixelated dust in your inventory. To a duper it will just take up space. But when anyone else looks at it in their inventory, they see the story behind it. They'll see the skills they learned, the neat little tricks when they farmed gold or jewels. They'll see the people they met in the market place through trading, and guild members that lent a hand here and there. They'll remember everything they did to get that prized pixelated package.

I have very few rare skins, most just don't appeal to me. But the ones I have are from my Guild leader, and that's why I value them, because they remind me of all the times we went through missions together and all the effort we put into our guild.
What I'm trying to get at is this: modders don't affect anybody else, as others have mentioned. Even the pvp things wouldn't change much, as when you went up against a skilled team it would simply be giving yourself a bad handicap. Dupers are being dealt with right now, but even if they were to flood the market with items just like yours, it shouldn't detract from the personal value of your weapon. You are letting others dictate what you want by saying you only want it because nobody else has it. Why not set a goal because its what you want, rather than a challenge someone else has set? Why not go after skins you like because they look nice, rather than because they are rare?
And to answer your last question: Why do I strive for things if I could get it instantly? Because I'd be bored to death otherwise. Easy does not necessarily mean entertaining or worthwhile.

But that's just my two cents

The mods are pointless. They can't even properly be called mods. It's simply a client side texture editor and nothing more. As for the price of golds and such what exactly is the OP complaining about? So things got cheap big deal. Inflation was a problem anyway. Now prices are more reasonably scaled to the amount of gold a player can realistically come across during the course of gameplay. Those of us who farm are still making gold hand over fist just in smaller quantities than before. So instead of banking on one really rare skinned item to sell for 100K + ecto we get that equivalent amount in several trades which, thanks to Hardmode, are easier to come buy if you have the right builds.

GG Sli Ander, your post wins the thread. And bye bye ibex333, I couldn't give a flying f*ck about you leaving. This game is still alive for me. Why? Maybe because I play it for the right reasons. Yeah sure, now you can jump in and say: "Oh, but everyone has their own reasons. You can't say what's right, what's not"
True, I can't. But if someone plays the game like ibex333, then intrest will soon vanish and it will only leave bad taste in your mouth. Some people enjoy the game, play it for the fun, not to be uber 1337 and then cry when they become common because others got the same stuff. So... in one word...KKTNXBAIBAI

How come I still excited about GW:EN coming.Just like others said you play too much especially to dress your toon not to play the game.

Hmm about the dupe I don't think that will effect anybody game play since there's a cap on weapons and armor.Only the rare trader got screwed which exclude me.

Only modding I ever try is modding Team Fortress sniper rifle's laser dot from a basic red dot to Doraemon(Japanese manga character) head just for laugh.But my aim got better unexpected thanks to the new laser dot that brighter.

This is just a flaming thread spreading anti-GW propoganda.

I would hazard a guess that GW is the 2nd most popular MMORPG on the planet.. so once all those below GW in the ratings are dead.. perhaps this thread would have some relevence. Other than that.. its just flames..

Avoid !

I quit the game months ago for WoW, but I'm coming back alittle bit in Sept to explore around GW:EN to see what it offers.

To my surprise when I load Guru again all I see are threads about mods and duping >_<